Navigating the Twisted Maze of the AATIP Timeline

“Navigating the AATIP timeline is a twisted maze of conflicting dates, contradicting sources, questionable intentions and a slew of unanswered questions.”

Background

by John Greenewald, Jr. – The Black Vault

On December 16, 2017, news broke about a “Secret Pentagon UFO Study” that rocked not only the UFO Community, but appeared on nearly every news outlet, in some fashion, around the globe.  The NY Times and Politico are credited for the initial reporting, but that spawned hundreds of articles and news broadcasts by various news agencies very quickly.

As the weeks, months and now more than a year has unfolded, there has been a lot of controversy and contradicting information that has come to light. There are multiple sides to the debate about if the program we now know as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) (referred to by some media outlets as the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program [AATIP]) was even a UFO research program at all.  This is an extremely important issue to unravel, since after December of 2017, the media has been somewhat more interested in UFO related stories based on this revelation. Many researchers have worked very hard over the years to prove an active cover-up regarding the phenomenon and as a result, wants the mainstream media to take it seriously. So if true, the existence of AATIP as a UFO/UAP research program is extraordinary on many levels and does nothing but help the integrity of the UFO field of research. 

But what if it’s not what we are led to believe? What will the repercussions be in the grander picture if the AATIP story turns out to be a misunderstood, over-embellished or simply a downright fabrication about what AATIP’s objectives really were? Facts about a such an important topic, are an astronomically (pun intended) important aspect to this. Taking the Government out of the equation, still offers a very confusing and convoluted story to understand, even when only looking at the statements by former AATIP personnel. If the sources of information outside the Government are contradictory to one another, how are we supposed to assume the Government is simply lying and we should believe “the other side”? Simply asked – because “the other side” is not in agreement at all about the AATIP timeline and is offering the public downright conflicting testimony.  Add in mainstream media reporting, wherein certain journalists had direct access to the former personnel of the AATIP; it’s an impossible scenario to lay out in chronological order. No one seems to be able to agree with each other or come up with a cohesive story.

The below timeline is a culmination of about 18 months worth of work since AATIP was unveiled. Every point you read below is generated directly from the words, lectures, news broadcasts and written material of the KEY players involved with this whole saga since day 1.  Navigating this “AATIP Timeline” forces you to immerse yourself in a twisted maze of conflicting dates, contradicting sources, questionable intentions and a slew of unanswered questions. 

The intention here is not to attack anyone’s journalistic skills, honesty, integrity or patriotism; but rather, this timeline is created to show how many contradictions there really are in the bigger picture. In a world of anonymous sources and leaked documents, it seems like there is a “journalistic standard” that has largely gone out the window when talking about or reporting on AATIP related stories.

The below timeline will continue to morph as new sources of information present themselves.

Note from John Greenewald: Although I have never claimed to be a journalist, I have tried to follow that “journalistic standard” to receive clarification and comment from those I write about. I find it unfair to do so without trying. Since December of 2017, I have reached out to all key parties referenced below (and many others not mentioned) at one time or another seeking clarification to some of the discrepancies outlined.  It is public knowledge that To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA) has denied my requests to speak with Mr. Luis Elizondo after months of trying, but the remainder of names have had varied responses to me, which I will refrain from offering details. Despite these varying responses (or lack thereof) I have never once had any of the below addressed.  I invite ANYONE that has direct knowledge of anything below, to offer clarification. I will gladly quote said party accordingly, and do so with my special thanks. The below should be a collaborative effort…

Primary Sources

The primary sources include only the most important names in the unveiling of this story. This includes those directly involved with the AATIP; journalists with direct access to those personnel that conducted in-depth interviews; and key officials from the U.S. Government that were directly involved in making official comments on AATIP. The sources included in the below timeline, listed in no particular order, are:

  • Mr. Luis Elizondo, Former Head of the “Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program ” or AATIP
  • Dr. Hal Puthoff, former contractor working on AAWSAP (AATIP?), through Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, LLC
  • Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean, NY Times
  • Bryan Bender, Politico
  • George Knapp & Matt Adams, KLAS-TV
  • Kari DeLonge, Press Officer for To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science (TTSA)
  • Nevada Secretary of State
  • Public Affairs Officer, Office of Corporate Communications, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
  • Major Audricia Harris, Department of Defense (DOD) Spokesperson, Pentagon

The Timeline – Last Updated 4/2/2019

2007
Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) Begins

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program (Original NY Times Article) By Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean. Relevant excerpt:

“The shadowy program — parts of it remain classified — began in 2007, and initially it was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who was the Senate majority leader at the time and who has long had an interest in space phenomena.”

Problem: This contradicts the timeline that Mr. Luis Elizondo setup, that the AAWSAP contract/program was renamed AATIP in 2008, not 2007 (see below). Mr. Elizondo was at least one of the sources used by the NY Times for the facts, but it contradicts his later statements that AATIP started in 2008, and was quoted as saying, “… [AATIP] evolved from AAWSAP but it is not AAWSAP.” (See below for additional details on AAWSAP)

In addition, the NY Times said: “Contracts obtained by The Times show a congressional appropriation of just under $22 million beginning in late 2008 through 2011. The money was used for management of the program, research and assessments of the threat posed by the objects.”

Problem: This contradicts their own reporting. The original contracts awarded in late 2008 (see below) for what we later learn is AAWSAP, were not AATIP contracts. If they were, then this reporting contradicts the testimony of Mr. Luis Elizondo.  So, therefore, it must be asked why the NY Times would not stay accurate and offer a brief chronological overview of how AATIP came to be?  According to Mr. Elizondo, who headed the project, AATIP was a different program entirely from AAWSAP. So, if Mr. Elizondo was at least one of their sources, why would this not be addressed or detailed since Mr. Elizondo himself says AAWSAP and AATIP were not the same? (See also the contradiction between Dr. Hal Puthoff, a former contractor that worked within AAWSAP/AATIP, and who is now a board member of TTSA, working directly with Mr. Elizondo. He has direct knowledge of the program having worked on it, but his statement goes against Mr. Elizondo’s, who actually headed the program.)

2007
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Begins

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo Slide Presentation, MUFON Conference, July 29, 2018. Slide Graphic. Excerpt from the text:

“2007 — Program originally created as a bipartisan effort (Stvens (R) [sic], Inoyoway [sic] (D-Hawaii), and Reid (D-Nevada) to better understand UAPs encountered by U.S. military and determine if they represent a national security threat.”

and also

“2007 — Congressional language establishes the ‘Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Application Program’, aka AAWSAP”

Problem: This contradicts Mr. Luis Elizondo’s other statements (see in this timeline) that AAWSAP was a much broader program, and AATIP was borne out of that to focus on UAPs.  Both statements can not be true. This also contradicts the publicly available information, on what AAWSAP was originally intended to be. There is not a single reference to anything related to UAPs or unidentified objects. See below for the three versions of the AAWSAP solicitations. 

This also contradicts the original reporting by the NY Times, which used Mr. Elizondo as at least one of their sources, wherein they said AATIP started in 2007. We know by this slide, and multiple statements by Mr. Elizondo, AATIP was not started until 2008.

2007
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Begins

June 2007

Source: Dr. Hal Puthoff speech to the SSE/IRVA Conference, Las Vegas, 8 June 2018. Full transcript available at Paradigm Research Group. The relevant portion:

“People have had trouble trying to get documents out of the Pentagon by saying they want all documents on AATIP, and they have a hard time because that wasn’t the actual name of the program. “Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program” is the actual name of the program. But AATIP was the nickname it went by. It began in June of 2007. The Defense Intelligence Agency was concerned about the fact that obvious observation had shown that Advanced Aerospace Vehicles – crafts, or drones of unknown origin, were flying all over the United States, over waters, in fact globally as was the case. So a Congressional budget was approved to address the issue behind the scenes. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid from Nevada was the one who was the initiator of the program, joined by Senator Inouye and Senator Stevens. These are the people who generally approve programs that were in the black, under high security, behind the scenes, and so they set up this program.”

Problem: This contradicts the timeline that the AAWSAP contract/program solicited bids, as publicly archived, in August of 2008 (see below). It is not possible to award a contract a year prior to the bid solicitation being posted. He also references that AAWSAP was referred to as AATIP in 2007. This contradicts Mr. Elizondo that AAWSAP was renamed to AATIP a year later in 2008. See below for additional contradictions related to Dr. Puthoff’s statements.

2007
Robert Bigelow "gets Contract" in 2007/2008 (Broad Statement)

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo (The MUFON Journal interview with Mr. Luis Elizondo by Chase Kloetzke)

This is a generalized statement about “the contract” given to Robert Bigelow. There is no clarification on AAWSAP or AATIP nor reference to BAASS.

Problem: This contradicts the timeline that the AAWSAP contract/program solicited bids, as publicly archived, in August of 2008 (see below). It also changes a definitive 2007 date, which in itself is problematic, that Mr. Elizondo has stated (see multiple points within this timeline) and offers a broad generalization of a start date within a two year timeline of somewhere within 2007/2008. This also contradicts Dr. Hal Puthoff, who stamps the start date as June of 2007, which also in itself, is problematic given the publicly available solicitations posted by the DIA seeking bids to AAWSAP. 

2007
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Was Real Program Name -- "AATIP" Was Only a Nickname

Source: Dr. Hal Puthoff speech to the SSE/IRVA Conference, Las Vegas, 8 June 2018. Full transcript available at Paradigm Research Group. The relevant portion:

“People have had trouble trying to get documents out of the Pentagon by saying they want all documents on AATIP, and they have a hard time because that wasn’t the actual name of the program. “Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program” is the actual name of the program. But AATIP was the nickname it went by. 

Problem: This contradicts the statement by Mr. Luis Elizondo that AATIP was not AAWSAP, but rather, evolved out of.  See below. 

2007
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Is Not AATIP

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo Slide Presentation, MUFON Conference, July 29, 2018. Relevant Excerpt:

“It would be disingenuous for me to simply say, well, AATIP is really AAWSAP. Well, it evolved from AAWSAP but it is not AAWSAP. And I think the documentation that is beginning to come out into the public forum, people are beginning to realize that.”

Problem: This contradicts Dr. Hal Puthoff’s speech that “AATIP” was only a nickname, and that is why FOIA requesters are unable to get documentation. Both gentleman worked directly with the AAWSAP/AATIP program, and currently both are board members of TTSA, so this discrepancy is very important to note. See above.

2008
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, LLC (BAASS) is Created, According to the Nevada Secretary of State

January 29, 2008

Source: Nevada Secretary of State, Business ID NV20081214349, Entity Number E0056412008-7, filed on January 29, 2008.  Source Data via https://www.nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/.

Problem: This contradicts news reports by Mr. George Knapp, KLAS-TV, in the I-Team: Documents prove secret UFO study based in Nevada article.  The relevant quote is: “For the DIA contract, he created BAASS, a seperate (sic) entity housed within his aerospace plant. He hired a team of 46 scientists and investigators, along with dozens of other support personnel.” It was also reported in Newsweek by Andrew Whalen, wherein the relevant quote states: “BAASS, created specifically for the Pentagon contract, conducted research both from Bigelow Aerospace headquarters in North Las Vegas and an infamous Utah ranch, formerly owned by Robert Bigelow (ownership has since transferred to Adamantium Real Estate, who manages the property on behalf of an anonymous owner).” 

Since the bid for AAWSAP was not posted until August of 2008 by the DIA, there is no way for Mr. Bigelow to know. So, either this is an erroneous fact as published by multiple media outlets, or Mr. Bigelow had foreknowledge of the coming program that would be open for bidding 8 months later, and wanted to get the paperwork set for a Nevada LLC to take it. 

2008
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Notice Posted

August 18, 2008

Solicitation Number HHM40208R0211, Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program, is posted to the Federal Business Opportunities Website.

Source: FBO Solicitation HHM40208R0211, posted August 18, 2008

Problem: This contradicts statements by Mr. Luis Elizondo and Dr. Hal Puthoff, both former officials working within the AAWSAP/AATIP programs, and currently both principals in the To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA). Together, they stated that AAWSAP was already underway in 2007, more than a year prior to this notice being posted seeking bids. Dr. Puthoff timestamped his statement as June of 2007 (see above) while Mr. Elizondo only said 2007 in some presentations, and 2007/2008 in his 2018 MUFON interview with Chase Kloetzke.

It is impossible for a program to be underway (especially Dr. Puthoff saying he was working on it in June 2007) before the bidding process took place.  If there was work or funding that went to Bigelow Aerospace (since BAASS, LLC did not exist in 2007), then there is much more to this part of the story. See multiple points on this timeline, wherein Senator Harry Reid tried to prove this was not a “sweetheart deal” and the bid process made it all legitimate. Again, that bid process did not take place until August of 2008.

2008
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Notice Stays up for "Weeks" Collecting Bids

Source: Mr. George Knapp and Mr. Matt Adams, I-Team: Documents prove secret UFO study based in Nevada, published May 4, 2018. The exact quote:

“In Aug. 2008, DIA posted a solicitation for bids. Weeks later, the contract was awarded to Bigelow Aerospace, the initial amount was $10 million. It required Bigelow to provide a facility that qualified for top secret work. Harry Reid did not influence the selection process.”

Problem: This story contradicts previous reporting by the same authors months prior. See below.

2008
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Notice Stays up for "Months" Collecting Bids

Source: Mr. George Knapp and Mr. Matt Adams, I-Team Exclusive: Sen. Reid discusses UFO study, published December 19, 2017. The exact quote:

“The contract was posted for months. The winning bid came from Las Vegas space entrepreneur Robert Bigelow, a billionaire who had funded his own UFO studies for years. Bigelow built secure facilities inside his aerospace company.”

Problem: This story contradicts previous reporting by the same authors months later. See above. Also, this contradicts the publicly available solicitation notices for bids on the AAWSAP program. See below, as the solicitations only allowed 18 days for bids to be posted.

2008
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Notice Stays up for 18 Days Collecting Bids

Source: FBO Solicitation HHM40208R0211, posted August 18, 2008

According to versions 1, 2 and 3 (only ones known to exist, versions 1 and 2 posted on August 18, 2008 and version 3 August 22, 2018) of the contract bid solicitation notice for AAWSAP, the due date was September 5, 2008, by 4:00pm Eastern time. That is a total of 18 days to collect bids. It is assumed this date is the verifiable date, since no “version 4” of the notice was ever posted on the Federal Business Opportunities website, changing the due date.

Problem: This contradicts reporting that this bid solicitation notice stayed up for “months” collecting bids. 

2008
Harry Reid: Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) is Awarded Contract Due to Being the "Best Cost"

September 5, 2008 or later. Exact date unknown.

When Senator Harry Reid was asked about the allegation that he orchestrated giving the winning bid to donor and Nevada entrepreneur billionaire Robert Bigelow, Senator Reid said the following when asked by Mr. George Knapp, KLAS-TV, Las Vegas:

“We wanted to make sure people couldn’t complain that it was some sweetheart deal. No, it was put out to bid…”

Then continues on why Mr. Bigelow specifically received the contract:

“I am sure one reason that helped is he gave the best cost. *Laughs* Because he was willing to build the infrastructure and he did everything on his own because he liked the subject. “

Source: KLAS-TV Investigative Journalist George Knapp Interview with Harry Reid, airing December 19, 2017, in the initial days after AATIP was reported.

Problem: This appears to contradict the DIA’s statement. The implication with the above interview is that Senator Reid states they put the bid notice out and after an unstated number of bids came in, Mr. Bigelow “gave the best cost” which led to him getting the award. However, the contradiction comes when the DIA confirmed (see below) that only a single bid came in at all in relation to the AAWSAP program, and that was BAASS. 

2008
DIA: Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) is Awarded Contract and was the "sole bidder"

September 5, 2008 or later. Exact date unknown.

In numerous email exchanges with the DIA’s Office of Corporate Communications, John Greenewald, Jr. was able to learn that according to DIA, BAASS was the “sole bidder.” The exact quote from the email states:

“DIA awarded a contract to a sole bidder [Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, LLC,] who identified and worked with academics and scientists to produce 38 technical reports. ”

Source: Email exchange between DIA and John Greenewald, Jr. Source Email. (In order to stop any misunderstanding, a follow up was written confirming that BAASS was the ONLY bid received, and the response was, “Yes.”)

Problem: This goes somewhat against the implication by Senator Reid that BAASS was given a contract because they gave the “best cost.” Technically, that can be true, but it is more accurate to say it was the “only” cost that was put forth. It is a bit misleading given the fact that Senator Reid was trying to put to rest that the contract awarded to BAASS was a “sweetheart deal” as he referred to it.  

2008
AAWSAP is Renamed to AATIP

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo Slide Presentation, MUFON Conference, July 29, 2018. Slide Graphic. and Mr. Luis Elizondo Slide Presentation, Centro Ufologico Nazionale, October 2018. Slide Graphic.

Problem: This contradicts reporting by the NY Times, which used Mr. Elizondo as a at least one source of information for their article, that established AATIP began in 2007. This seemingly also contradicts Dr. Hal Puthoff, who said AAWSAP began in June of 2007, and it had a nickname of AATIP. 

 

2008
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) is Awarded AAWSAP Contract

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Mr. George Knapp, KLAS, in the video story here: Documents prove secret UFO study based in Nevada. The source of the actual documents shown where Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies is filled out in the awarded contract, is unknown and not sourced.

Problem: This contradicts statements by Mr. Luis Elizondo and Dr. Hal Puthoff, both principals in the To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA), that AAWSAP was already underway in 2007, more than a year prior to this notice being posted seeking bids. Dr. Puthoff timestamped his statement as June of 2007 (see above) while Mr. Elizondo only said 2007 in some presentations, and 2007/2008 in his 2018 MUFON interview with Chase Kloetzke.

2008
Mr. Luis Elizondo Begins Working Within AATIP

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo, The MUFON Journal interview as interviewed by Chase Kloetzke, 2018. Specific excerpt from this interview:

“I wore many hats. For many years, I did state, local, tribal intelligence, law enforcement integration. I did information sharing, foreign intelligence relations, I did Guantanamo Bay and I happened to be, for the last 10 years, also part of the AATIP program.”  (Ten years from 2018 = 2008.)

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo, 2018 International UFO Congress Interview, February 2018. Specific excerpt from this interview:

“At that point it became apparent to me why they were asking me the questions they were asking me, so in 2008 I was asked to come on board. I did and I worked for the former program manager at the time, and in 2010 upon his departure, I was asked to take over the program formally as the director.”

Problem: This is a point that needs clarification. It has been established that AAWSAP began in 2007 or 2008, depending on what source you believe. As you will see later in the timeline, AAWSAP/AATIP was at the DIA until 2010 and then it moved to OSD. Yet, Mr. Elizondo worked for OSD and never stated (that I could find, but am open to correction) that he ever worked for DIA. So, assuming he worked at OSD the entire time, DIA asked an OSD official for support. Specifically, Mr. Elizondo addressed that point briefly to Alejandro Rojas / UFO Congress (sourced above) by saying the following, “The former program manager at the time was looking for somebody to provide dedicated counter intelligence support to the effort, which I wasn’t aware of at the time.” Programs generally stay managed and staffed from people that work within that agency, rather than picking a head from DIA and someone else from OSD, especially since they just needed counter intelligence support for a DIA program. I will note, this is not entirely out of the question, but it needs to be addressed and clarified. In addition, the decision to move AATIP out of DIA was not made until 2009, one year after Mr. Elizondo was asked to support the program. Was the decision to move it to OSD based solely on Mr. Elizondo’s involvement?  If not, what are the odds they chose an outside-agency counter-intelligence support officer, that just by chance, would be from the next home for AATIP, before they even decided AATIP would be moved in the first place? 

 

2008
Dr. Hal Puthoff Determines What Topics 38 Contracts/Reports AATIP Should Address

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Dr. Hal Puthoff speech to the SSE/IRVA Conference, Las Vegas, 8 June 2018. Full transcript available at Paradigm Research Group. The relevant portion:

“I was contracted to commission mostly unclassified whitepapers from experts around the globe about where their particular subject areas would be in (the year) 2050 as like a general survey of aerospace futures. I decided this would be the best way to get the best knowledge we had across many technologies without actually exposing why we wanted to know. So, I let out 38 contracts over a two-year period. I’ll show you what the studies were on. You can read them there: positron aerospace propulsion, IEC fusion as a compact energy source, warp drive, dark energy, extra dimensions, metallic glasses for aerospace use. Really cutting edge kinds of things.”

Problem: This potentially opens up a slew of misreporting by various media outlets in January of 2019. I have chosen to not dissect each one, but rather point out an established timeline point, according to Dr. Puthoff. Contrary to media reports that the DIA/The Government specifically contracted work on Warp Drives, Time Travel and the Drake Equation, Dr. Puthoff establishes that he, as a contractor with BAASS, commissioned the topics. This is an important point to clarify, because it strongly goes against much of the reporting and wording that the DIA itself mandated the studies. Contrary to all of the flashy headlines, Dr. Puthoff states, it was his action that commissioned the mostly unclassified whitepapers. That point is an important one when establishing the actual context of the 38 Reports created under AATIP and whether or not they were truly mandated or specifically requested by DIA (or anyone in “the government”), so it needs to be established who actually mandated the studies.

2009
Harry Reid Writes Letter to Deputy Secretary of Defense Requesting AATIP become a Special Access Program (SAP)

June 24, 2009

Source: July 25, 2018 story by Mr. George Knapp – I-Team obtains some key documents related to Pentagon UFO study. The actual letter’s source, Mr. Knapp has not stated, but asked Mr. Luis Elizondo and Senator Harry Reid on camera if it was genuine, and they acknowledged it was.

2009
Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) Reviews AATIP

EXACT Date Unknown

Through a conversation by John Greenewald, Jr. with a Public Affairs Officer at the DIA’s Office of Corporate Communications, it is confirmed that in 2009, an OSD review found that AATIP had “limited value to DIA.” Their entire statement:

“After an OSD/DIA review in late 2009, it was determined the reports were of limited value to DIA and there was a recommendation that upon completion of the contract, the project could be transitioned to an agency or component better suited to oversee it. ” (Source Email)

2009
26 out of the 38 Reports Generated Under AAWSAP/AATIP Delivered

Exact Report Delivery Dates Throughout Year Unknown

Relevant excerpt:

“26 of 38 reports were delivered in FY 2009; the balance in FY 2010. That’s when the project ended at DIA. I have no additional information about what happened after the contract was fulfilled after DIA received 38 reports that covered the 12 research areas requested.”

Source: Email exchange between DIA and John Greenewald, Jr. Source Email.

2010
Remaining 12 out of the 38 Reports Generated Under AAWSAP/AATIP Delivered

Exact Report Delivery Dates Throughout Year Unknown

Relevant excerpt:

“26 of 38 reports were delivered in FY 2009; the balance in FY 2010. That’s when the project ended at DIA. I have no additional information about what happened after the contract was fulfilled after DIA received 38 reports that covered the 12 research areas requested.”

Source: Email exchange between DIA and John Greenewald, Jr. Source Email.

2010
AATIP is Moved to the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD)

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo Slide Presentation, MUFON Conference, July 29, 2018. Slide Graphic.

Source: Email exchange between DIA and John Greenewald, Jr. Source Email 1. Source Email 2. (Confirmed project ended after 2010 and was moved.)

2010
Mr. Luis Elizondo Begins Heading AATIP

EXACT Date Unknown

Source: Kari DeLonge, Press Officer for To The Stars Academy via email to John Greenewald, Jr. Source Email.

2010
Leaked Defense Intelligence Reference Documents Reference AAWSAP not AATIP Approximately TWO YEARS After Name Change

March 29, 2010

As of the writing of this timeline, there have only been a select few DIRD reports (part of the 38 reports) that have been leaked out and reported on. The most recent of them, as of the writing of this timeline, is dated 29 March 2010.  It is, “Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric) Engineering” by Dr. Hal Puthoff, EarthTech International. In the beginning of the report, it states:

“This product is one in a series of advanced technology reports produced in FY 2009 under the Defense Intelligence Agency, Defense Warning Office’s Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications (AAWSA) Program. Comments or questions pertaining to this document should be addressed to James T. Lacatski, D.Eng., AAWSA Program Manager, Defense Intelligence Agency, ATTN: CLAR/DWO-3, Bldg 6000, Washington, DC 20340-5100.” Source Document

Problem: This contradicts Mr. Luis Elizondo, wherein he has stated that 1) AATIP was not AAWSAP, and 2) AAWSAP’s name changed to AATIP in 2008. See multiple points on this timeline to source that statement. All other DIRD reports, as of the writing of this timeline, that have leaked — also use the AAWSAP program name after Mr. Elizondo said it had changed in 2008. 

2011
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) Ends

Source: Mr. George Knapp and Mr. Matt Adams, I-Team: Documents prove secret UFO study based in Nevada, published May 4, 2018. The exact quote:

“But at the Pentagon, there was pushback. Some worried the study would become an embarrassment if the word got out. Others opposed it on religious grounds. Bigelow funded it himself for a year but AAWSAP came to an end after 2011.”

Problem: This contradicts Mr. Luis Elizondo, who said AAWSAP was formerly changed to AATIP back in 2008. That is a three year discrepancy in the timeline.

2011
Mr. Luis Elizondo is Assigned To Continue with AATIP after AAWSAP End

Source: Mr. George Knapp and Mr. Matt Adams, I-Team: Documents prove secret UFO study based in Nevada, published May 4, 2018. The exact quote:

“AAWSAP came to an end after 2011. Elizondo, who had interacted with the study from the Pentagon, was assigned to continue the work, but he chose a smaller focus, limited to military encounters with unknown aircraft. his effort, dubbed AATIP, survived by keeping a low profile.”

Problem: This contradicts previous statements by Mr. Luis Elizondo, presenting that AAWSAP was formerly changed to AATIP in 2008. In addition, Mr. Elizondo stated that AATIP’s focus, was fine tuned to focus on UAPs in 2008. What did he refocus in 2011?

Mr. Elizondo said in his MUFON Conference lecture on July 29, 2018:

“In 2008, the program was already beginning to evolve. The original AAWSAP portfolio was much broader than the AATIP. The decision was made early on, that we would go ahead and focus the effort more to the phenomena specific, looking at the observables and the identifiables. What could we look at; what could we collect on; what could we report on back to Senior DOD leadership. Because that’s what their concerned with.”

In addition, it should be clarified why would Mr. Elizondo would need to be assigned (again) to continue AATIP after AAWSAP ended in 2011 (even though that date contradicts his own timeline)?  According to Mr. Elizondo, the program had already changed in 2008 with a focus on UAPs (contradicting again this news report); AAWSAP was already renamed to AATIP in 2008 (contradicting again this news report); Mr. Elizondo was promoted to head the AATIP program in 2010, and he further claims it never stopped in 2012, despite the misappropriated funds and contradicting statements by the Pentagon and the DIA.   

2012
Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) Ends

EXACT Date Unknown

Sources:

2013
New Funding "Bolsters AATIP's Efforts"

2013-2014

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo Slide Presentation, MUFON Conference, July 29, 2018. Slide Graphic. Excerpt from the slide states:

“2013-2014 — New funding vehicle under Joint ISR is created, intended to bolster AATIP efforts. Data and reporting continues to flow through AATIP channels”

Problem: This contradicts statements by the Department of Defense acknowledging the program was real, but it ended in 2012. This statement was given to the NY Times in the original article, but was also told to numerous media outlets that reported the same.  The program’s cancellation was also confirmed to John Greenewald, Jr. by the Pentagon’s Spokesperson Major Audricia Harris and a public affairs officer with the Defense Intelligence Agency.  It also should be noted, that despite the quote from the slide, Mr. Luis Elizondo has said on multiple occasions that the funding slated for AATIP, was ultimately forwarded to a different office, therefore one can only conclude that it would hinder AATIP 2013 on efforts. This, to me, seemingly contradicts a statement saying AATIP was “bolstered” (which is defined as “strengthening”) through a “new funding vehicle.” You can’t take money away from a project, but in the same slide, saying new funding “bolstered” the effort.  This definitely needs clarification. 

2015
AATIP Makes Key Observations Relevant to the "Phenomena"

2015-2017

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo Slide Presentation, MUFON Conference, July 29, 2018. Slide Graphic. Excerpt from the slide states:

“2015 through 2017 — AATIP makes several key observations relevant to the phenomena. Access list remains limited and very restrictive further limiting the information flow to key leaders in the Department despite key meetings and briefings”

Problem: This contradicts statements by the Department of Defense acknowledging the program was real, but it ended in 2012. This statement was given to the NY Times in the original article, but was also told to numerous media outlets that reported the same. The program’s cancellation was also confirmed to John Greenewald, Jr. by the Pentagon’s Spokesperson Major Audricia Harris and a public affairs officer with the Defense Intelligence Agency. 

2017
Mr. Luis Elizondo Contacts Commander David Fravor, Pilot who Engaged 2004 USS Nimitz "Tic-Tac," for the First Time

Circa September 2017

Source: Commander David Fravor, The Fighter Pilot Podcast, January 2, 2019. Relevant portion of the interview:

“I had got a call from the other pilot and they said, ‘Hey, have you been talked to about the Tic Tac lately?’ And I said, ‘No.’ They said, ‘Well…you know, I’ve been asked to go to the Pentagon like five times.’ You know, and they said, ‘Well you had, you know, the most ACM’ cause I was actually the one that engaged it. And I said, ‘Well, just give ’em my name and I’ll talk to them.’ So that was Lue Elizondo, who was running the AATIP program at the Pentagon. So he had called me up and said, ‘Hey, we’re gonna come up and talk to you.’ I said, ‘Great. No problem.’ And, umm, I didn’t think much of it. I’m like, yeah, I’ll tell you what you got.  So about, um, I don’t know, probably a month later I had gotten information on the, “To The Stars” that was coming out with Tom DeLonge and I’m watching this clip that guy had sent me and Lue’s on it. So I call Lue. I go, ‘What’s going on?’ He goes, ‘I left the Pentagon.’ I said, well he goes, ‘We’ll be there like this weekend to talk to you.’ I said okay.

“So they came up here and talked to me about the whole incident and he told me what was going on. And, and, he actually explained why he had left the Pentagon. He was a little bit frustrated with basically the bureaucracy that he was having to deal with. And what he thought was very important. So, he called me up about a month later and said, ‘Hey, we want to do this article with the New York Times. Will you do it?’ And I said, ‘No.’ I actually said, ‘No, I’m not doing that.’ And he said, ‘No, no, seriously, dude we really need you to do this.’ I said, ‘Why do you need me to do this?’

Problem: This a major point that needs to be clarified. Following Mr. Elizondo’s version of the timeline, he had worked on AATIP for 10 years at this point (as stated to Chase Kloetzke interview with the MUFON Journal  – see above timeline point). In the course of 10 years, while working on a program looking at UAPs/UFOs, I would imagine that the Nimitz encounter would undoubtedly be a major case for study in such a program. Why would Cmdr. Fravor (the actual pilot who engaged the “tic-tac”) not be contacted once, by anyone in the AATIP, until September of 2017?  In addition, why would Mr. Elizondo care more about getting him into a NY Times piece (which also publicized the TTSA efforts), rather than inserting the actual pilot’s engagement into any AATIP related report, ever, in the entire history of AATIP? Mr. Elizondo specifically told Cmdr. Fravor his input would do nothing but help credibility in the NY Times article. If that is true – why would he not want Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony somewhere in AATIP?  If you omit evidence like that from AATIP, it may shed light on why the upper echelon of the DOD, along with the DIA, found no value to keep the program running, if you believe the official line. 

In addition, Cmdr. Fravor detailed a journalist finding him and his wife eating at a coffee shop.

“I had a guy, literally, The Boston Herald guy track me down on Sunday and found me in a coffee shop on the north end with my wife and daughter.” … snip … “It is amazing because, you know, I’m not, it’s not like I’m publicizing this. I’ve actually tried to hide from a lot of people. And, uh, they find you. Now it makes it easy because there’s not a lot of David Fravors running around the United States. I won’t say how many but it’s very few. I asked the girl. I said, ‘How did you find me?’ And she goes, ‘Oh, it wasn’t hard. We have this database we can go to.’”

Problem: Certainly, given the capability of this journalist to find Cmdr. Fravor at a coffee shop; counter-intelligence agent, and active DOD personnel officer, Mr. Luis Elizondo could have tracked him down, given the resources he had access to in the 10 years of his involvement with AATIP. It should be clarified why Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony only became important after a decade of being involved in AATIP. (I will be fair and note Cmdr. Fravor stated another pilot was spoken to 5 times at the Pentagon – but we have no timeframe that I know of. Meaning, was in 5 times over the course of a week, a month, six years? But the point stands on why the pilot who actually engaged the object, was never contacted a single time.)

2017
Mr. Luis Elizondo, Referred to as "AATIP Director", Resigns

October 4, 2017

Source: Mr. Luis Elizondo Slide Presentation, MUFON Conference, July 29, 2018. Slide Graphic. Excerpt from the slide states:

“Oct 4, 2017 – AATIP Director resigns”

Problem: This contradicts statements by the Department of Defense acknowledging the program was real, but it ended in 2012. This statement was given to the NY Times in the original article, but was also told to numerous media outlets that reported the same.  The program’s cancellation was also confirmed to John Greenewald, Jr. by the Pentagon’s Spokesperson Major Audricia Harris and a public affairs officer with the Defense Intelligence Agency. 

2017
To the Stars Academy of Arts & Science Press Conference
2017
NY Times and Politico Break Story of AATIP

December 16, 2017

Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program, NY Times, By Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean.

The Pentagon’s Secret Search for UFOs, Politico, By Bryan Bender

2019
Speech by Mr. Luis Elizondo Offers Questionable, Contradicting and Misleading Information to Previous Statements

March 15, 2019

Source: The Scientific Coalition for Ufology (SCU), Anomalous Aerospace Phenomena (AAP) Conference, March 15, 2019.  There are two sections chosen that deserve to be on this timeline, to coincide with the above contradictions. First excerpt, from the Q&A session of pre-screened questions:

Question: Which military service agency within the IC [intelligence community] would be the best focal point for FOIA requests related to the phenomenon and AATIP.

Mr. Elizondo: “If I was a betting man, I would probably stick with, ummm, knocking on the doors of DIA. Um. They have already admitted that the uhh, after some time they they actually were running part of the program. Umm I’d keep knocking on those doors.” (End of answer)

Problem: Mr. Elizondo went on the record that OSD was the home of AATIP, beginning in 2010. This is not contested by the DIA, so they are in agreement on the timeline there. From 2010 through 2017 (according to Mr. Elizondo) AATIP was fully housed within the OSD, and not DIA. That means that there are 7 years worth of documents that can be found at OSD. To direct the audience to focus on DIA, seems to be a complete disregard for his entire story and the fact that AATIP continued on for so long. DIA would not have any release authority for documents dated 2010 through 2017 so why would he not include this agency in his answer as well? This needs clarification, since his tenure heading the project was not at the agency he recommended focusing on, so why does he find no value in chasing after documents that, according to Senator Harry Reid, are 80%+ unclassified?  

In addition, Mr. Elizondo said the following. I will include the entire answer first, then dissect, as it is INCREDIBLY important to finalize this timeline with the most recent information Mr. Elizondo is giving out. The follow is also during the Q&A, where Mr. Elizondo was talking about multiple things during a single answer:

“If you look at Senator Reid’s letter, on the very last page, look at the very bottom page and you are going to see FOIA Exempt language. That’s real. Now you can say oh that’s sneaky, they shouldn’t put it there, but we do… for a reason. Some of that stuff is FOIA Exempt and you are not going to see it. I don’t know what to tell ya. And it is FOIA Exempt for a reason. And there are exceptions, by law, there are, there are, when you look at those exemptions, they actually go back to very very specific things — loopholes if you will — or circumstances that something is not FOIAable. Because of sensitivities, because of sources and methods, because of all sorts of reasons. Um, and so, from that respective some of the frustration people… first of all they thought it was “Advanced Aviation” so you are not going to get anything. So for 6 months I was telling people write “Aerospace”. Umm, that’s one thing. You have to be very specific when you do a FOIA, also you need to know which offices, so uhh the DIA, the DOD is a big organization. So you might not get anything you want. It’s not a magic bullet. You have to continue to keep pushing. And keep pushing, and digging, and finding out what offices were around and what offices were not, and then maybe apply those specifically magic bullet ways to those specific offices. AAWSAP was indeed the predecessor to AATIP. We made that very clear from day 1. Unfortunately, I can not talk much about it, out of respect to my former colleagues. I won’t do it. If you want to know more about AAWSAP and what they were doing, you’re going to have to talk to the former director. Or unless he gives me permission, to mention it, I can’t do it. It’s just out of respect for him. It’s a promise I made him long ago and it’s just like I don’t want people speaking on my behalf. Which apparently people do all the time. But thats… ask me and I’ll tell you. So with all due respect, I really can’t answer too much about the AAWSAP.”

Now I will break this down into pieces.

“If you look at Senator Reid’s letter, on the very last page, look at the very bottom page and you are going to see FOIA Exempt language. That’s real. Now you can say oh that’s sneaky, they shouldn’t put it there, but we do… for a reason. Some of that stuff is FOIA Exempt and you are not going to see it. I don’t know what to tell ya. And it is FOIA Exempt for a reason. And there are exceptions, by law, there are, there are, when you look at those exemptions, they actually go back to very very specific things — loopholes if you will — or circumstances that something is not FOIAable.”

Problem: This has been an overly embellished and wildly misunderstood issue by the general public, ever since the letter by Senator Reid leaked. The exact language (as it does not just read “FOIA Exempt” as reported by some), states, “This document contains information exempt from mandatory disclosure under FOIA. Exemptions 1 and 5 apply.” FOIA Exempt language is quite common on records, due to the automatic declassification language within Executive Order 13526. Simple google searches on .mil and .gov domains seeking “FOIA Exempt” explanations will bring up reams of material, including documents with similar language. It simply means, that upon a 25 year passage of time, documents marked with FOIA Exempt language need a closer review, to properly cite exempted material, and redact where necessary. To say, however, that it is “not FOIAable” by the public, is downright wrong.  Because as stipulated by 5 U.S.C. § 552, also known as the FOIA, you can request anything you want with few exceptions. Those few exceptions (like Presidential Records) do not come close to making anything related to AAWSAP or AATIP “not FOIAable”.  The language is there to ensure document reviewers are aware that certain FOIA Exemptions, in which there are 9 total, MAY apply to the document in whole, in part or may be no longer applicable after a proper review.   Anyone can FOIA any document with “FOIA Exempt” language, and it does not mean what the public is being told, especially here.

“…first of all they thought it was “Advanced Aviation” so you are not going to get anything. So for 6 months I was telling people write “Aerospace”. Umm, that’s one thing.”

Problem: This is entirely untrue and misleading. Since I am the source of the first DOD denial, Mr. Elizondo should have seen why that denial took place. The language of the original FOIA request by me never mentioned AATIP (or AAWSAP) or any program name. The request was entirely based on how Mr. Elizondo described the program during the TTSA press conference in October of 2017, wherein he described it as a “DOD Aerospace Threat Program.”  The name controversy came months later, and played zero role in that denial. To say so, is a disservice to the truth on what really happened, and each letter is documented within FOIA Case 18-F-0077, dating back to October of 2017, in case anyone would like to verify. 

“AAWSAP was indeed the predecessor to AATIP. We made that very clear from day 1.”

Problem: This is a fabrication. From Day 1, AATIP was not even revealed. AAWSAP did not get revealed until months after that, and in Mr. Elizondo’s own words during his MUFON speech, he explained why he never brought up AAWSAP. He stated: “A lot of folks will see, ‘Well Lue, when you first came out, why didn’t you just tell us that?’ Well the reason is, I wasn’t really part of that. And that’s not really my place to discuss a mission, at an organization, where I was really walking in at the tail end. I was brought it to conduct counter-intelligence and security for an organization that was in the process of evolving into something else. There was another director running that program. “

So, you can not have it both ways to explain to one audience why you did not mention AAWSAP, then tell a second audience you told the public about AAWSAP from day 1.  This is a wild contradiction, and needs to be clarified/corrected.

AATIP’s Ever-Shifting Acronym

Based on what the Pentagon told me, and others, I questioned why it differed from Mr. Luis Elizondo. Despite some critics on me doing that, I stand by my questioning of it, as it needed to be addressed. Accuracy is absolutely KEY to understanding this program, so we need to ask ourselves why there is this much carelessness from ALL sources mentioned here?

To add to this confusing timeline, I present a chronological order of the various names of AATIP, with references to where they came from. The sources I mention below all had direct and in many cases face to face contact with Mr. Luis Elizondo, as he was the main source for these stories in the mainstream media.  In addition to journalists getting it wrong and being largely inconsistent (even flip flopping from one name to another, and back again as they wrote follow-up stories) you can see with the references below, that Senator Harry Reid, Mr. Luis Elizondo and the Pentagon, are all unable to come up with an exact name as they put forward alternate (albeit slightly alternate) versions of it.

It should also be noted that the DIA’s Office of Corporate Communications told me directly that it was the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program while it was at DIA. (Source)

Some may be tired of the whole “name debate,” but take a look below. How can something with only a 5-word program name go so horribly wrong when it came to reporting on it?

  • Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program – Senator Harry Reid, Leaked Letter to Deputy Secretary of Defense – June 24, 2009 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program – Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean, NY Times – December 16, 2017 (Source)
  • Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program – BRYAN BENDER, Politico – December 16, 2017 (Source)
  • Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program – JAMIE CRAWFORD NATIONAL SECURITY PRODUCER, CNN – December 17, 2017 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program – No Author Cited, KLAS-TV – December 18, 2017 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program – George Knapp & Matt Adams, KLAS-TV – February 02, 2018 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program – Alejandro Rojas, OpenMinds.TV – February 28, 2018 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program – 115th Congress (2017-2018) EC4381 — House Communication – April 9, 2018 (Source)
  • Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program – Major Audricia Harris, Pentagon Spokesperson – April 10, 2018 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program – George Knapp & Matt Adams, KLAS-TV – May 4, 2018 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program – Dr. Hal Puthoff, SSSE/IRVA Conference – June 8, 2018 (Source)
  • Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program – George Knapp & Matt Adams, KLAS-TV – July 25, 2018 (Source)
  • Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program – George Knapp & Matt Adams, KLAS-TV – October 31, 2018 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program – George Knapp & Matt Adams, KLAS-TV – January 31, 2019 (Source)
  • Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program – Office of Corporate Communications, Defense Intelligence Agency, Email Exchange with John Greenewald, Jr. – March 2019 (Source)