{"id":20444,"date":"2025-04-02T18:52:02","date_gmt":"2025-04-02T18:52:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/?p=20444"},"modified":"2025-04-02T18:53:40","modified_gmt":"2025-04-02T18:53:40","slug":"the-pentagon-says-aatip-wasnt-about-ufos-but-the-man-slated-to-take-it-over-ended-up-designing-the-governments-uap-strategy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/the-pentagon-says-aatip-wasnt-about-ufos-but-the-man-slated-to-take-it-over-ended-up-designing-the-governments-uap-strategy\/","title":{"rendered":"The Pentagon Says AATIP Wasn&#8217;t About UFOs\u2014But the Man Slated to Take It Over Ended Up Designing the Government\u2019s UAP Strategy"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_19504\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19504\" style=\"width: 201px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/images.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-19504\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/images.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"201\" height=\"251\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/images.jpg 201w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/images-150x187.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 201px) 100vw, 201px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-19504\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Neill Tipton<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"282\" data-end=\"782\">A newly released batch of documents, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), reveals that a senior Pentagon official\u2014identified by Luis Elizondo as the person intended to take over the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/?s=AATIP\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AATIP<\/a>)\u2014later played a central role in classified UAP briefings, high-level meetings, and the creation of the Pentagon\u2019s UFO office known as AOIMSG. That office would ultimately evolve into what is now the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/?s=AARO\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AARO<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"784\" data-end=\"1370\">This connection adds a new layer to the long-running controversy surrounding AATIP. Although Elizondo has long maintained that the program investigated UFOs and that he led it until his 2017 resignation, the Pentagon has issued conflicting statements\u2014at times denying both AATIP\u2019s focus on unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) and Elizondo\u2019s leadership. According to Elizondo, he had planned to transfer AATIP to Neill Tipton, a senior executive within the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security (OUSD[I&amp;S]). But that handoff, Elizondo says, never materialized.<\/p>\n<p>Emails between Elizondo and Tipton, previously leaked to and published in part by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.popularmechanics.com\/military\/research\/a30916275\/government-secret-ufo-program-investigation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Popular Mechanics<\/a> in 2020, and later <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/new-foia-release-highlights-redactions-in-key-aatip-correspondence-what-is-the-pentagon-hiding\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">officially obtained<\/a> and verified with additional emails revealed by The Black Vault via FOIA in 2024, appear to partially support this claim. In one message dated October 3, 2017, Elizondo wrote to Tipton,<em> \u201cI took the liberty of drafting a memo at the Unclassified level that helps you better assume the new responsibilities for AATIP.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_19870\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19870\" style=\"width: 233px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/2024-08-21_17-04-29.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-19870 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/2024-08-21_17-04-29-233x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"233\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/2024-08-21_17-04-29-233x300.png 233w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/2024-08-21_17-04-29-150x194.png 150w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/2024-08-21_17-04-29-450x581.png 450w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/2024-08-21_17-04-29-600x774.png 600w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/2024-08-21_17-04-29.png 724w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 233px) 100vw, 233px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-19870\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Memorandum drafted by Luis Elizondo transferring AATIP to Neill Tipton<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Yet, despite the plan outlined in these emails and memo released via the FOIA, Tipton would never join the ranks of AATIP, nor would he lead the program, according to Elizondo. <em>&#8220;Neill got cold feet about taking my place at AATIP\u2014something I wouldn&#8217;t have expected from him\u2014and began to backpedal, telling people people that he knew nothing about AATIP, its focus, or my involvement,&#8221;<\/em> Elizondo said in his book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Imminent-Pentagons-Investigating-UAPs_Featured-Experience\/dp\/0063235560\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Imminent<\/em><\/a>. <em>&#8220;I was disappointed that my friend chose to do what he did, especially given the vast amount of emails and witnesses who knew Neill was slated to take over AATIP when I left.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>After Elizondo&#8217;s retirement, the Department of Defense <a href=\"https:\/\/theintercept.com\/2019\/06\/01\/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">frequently denied<\/a> that Elizondo ever had a role within AATIP, and repeatedly stated that the program did not have a focus on UFOs.<\/p>\n<p>But, in what appeared to be an about face with at least part of their stance, Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told the <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2019\/05\/22\/the-pentagon-finally-admits-it-investigates-ufos\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">NY Post<\/a> in 2019,<em> \u201cAATIP did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena.\u201d\u00a0<\/em>Many <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/nickpopemod\/status\/1131195750421897216\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">rejoiced<\/a> at the confirmation about what Elizondo had already said for some time, but the excitement about what many hoped to be a new era of transparency about AATIP was short-lived.<\/p>\n<p>Sherwood&#8217;s statement was corrected seven months later by another Pentagon spokesperson Susan Gough. Gough had taken over being the sole public affairs official speaking on the UAP topic. <em>\u201cNeither AATIP nor AAWSAP were UAP related,\u201d<\/em> Gough wrote in a 2019 e-mail to The Black Vault.<em> \u201cThe purpose of AATIP was to investigate foreign advanced aerospace weapons system applications with future technology projections over the next 40 years, and to create a center of expertise on advanced aerospace technologies.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/200401-D-BN624-0001-900x600-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-14244\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/200401-D-BN624-0001-900x600-1-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/200401-D-BN624-0001-900x600-1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/200401-D-BN624-0001-900x600-1-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/200401-D-BN624-0001-900x600-1-450x300.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/200401-D-BN624-0001-900x600-1-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/200401-D-BN624-0001-900x600-1-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/200401-D-BN624-0001-900x600-1.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>When asked about the discrepancy between her statement and Sherwood&#8217;s, Gough stated to The Black Vault, <em>\u201cAt the time, Mr. Sherwood was repeating the information that had been provided by a previous spokesperson some two years earlier.&#8221;<\/em> She continued, <em>\u201cThat previous spokesperson is no longer with my organization, and I cannot comment on why that person\u2019s explanation of AATIP included that it had looked at anomalous events.\u00a0 According to all the official information I have now, when implemented, AATIP did not pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena; that was not part of the technical studies nor the reports produced by the program.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The previous spokesperson no longer with the DoD that Gough referred to, was Lt. Col. Audricia Harris, who <a href=\"https:\/\/www.blueblurrylines.com\/2018\/05\/pentagon-confirmation-aatip-advanced.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">stated to<\/a> researcher <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/rogerglassel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Roger Glassel<\/a> in 2018 that AATIP had researched &#8220;&#8230;<i>anomalous events (such as sightings of aerodynamic vehicles engaged in extreme maneuvers, with unique phenomenology, reported by U.S. Navy pilots or other credible sources).&#8221;\u00a0<\/i>According to Gough, Sherwood simply translated this previous statement as AATIP pursued UAPs during their research, and issued his statement to the NY Post erroneously.<\/p>\n<p>Finally in 2021, all of that was seemingly changed yet again when the Pentagon released another<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/pentagon-now-admits-aatip-utilized-uap-ufo-reports\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00a0statement<\/a> claiming that, <em>\u201cIn developing the reports and exploring how to create a \u2018center of expertise,\u2019 the [AATIP] contract allowed for research drawn from a wide variety of sources, including reports of UAPs. However, the examination of UAP observations was not the purpose of AATIP.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Despite this constantly shifting position by the DoD, this new FOIA release on April 1, 2025, in response to a 2022 request filed by The Black Vault, contains multiple email threads and internal communications placing Tipton at the center of UAP planning and strategizing in 2021 and 2022.<\/p>\n<p>In a July 13, 2021, email to senior DoD officials, Tipton described a high-level UAP briefing to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) and Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC), noting that 28 senators attended\u2014an unusually high turnout that was <em>&#8220;nearly unprecedented for an engagement like this&#8221;<\/em>\u2014and that <em>\u201ccontinued very high interest from the Senate\u201d<\/em> was evident. He confirmed his direct participation in the briefing, alongside representatives from ODNI, the Navy, the Air Force, and NORAD.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_10-23-50.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-20447\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_10-23-50.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"626\" height=\"967\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_10-23-50.png 626w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_10-23-50-194x300.png 194w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_10-23-50-150x232.png 150w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_10-23-50-450x695.png 450w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_10-23-50-600x927.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 626px) 100vw, 626px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Just months later, Tipton was involved in the establishment of the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group (AOIMSG), the office stood up by the Pentagon following the dissolution of the UAP Task Force. In a November 23, 2021, email, Tipton confirmed that Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks had signed the AOIMSG stand-up memo and stated that his team was <em>\u201calready working implementation direction.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-pm-slice=\"0 0 []\">These details paint a complex picture. Although Tipton never assumed leadership of AATIP, as Elizondo intended, his later prominence in classified UAP briefings and the establishment of the Pentagon\u2019s UFO infrastructure raises new questions\u2014especially given the Pentagon\u2019s earlier denials that AATIP had anything to do with UFOs. In other words, why Tipton out of everyone else within the DoD&#8217;s massive infrastructure of people within it?<\/p>\n<p>For critics of Elizondo\u2019s narrative, the Pentagon\u2019s 2018 and 2019 statements denying his leadership role or AATIP\u2019s UAP focus seemed definitive. But the trajectory of Tipton\u2014named by Elizondo as the intended recipient of AATIP responsibilities\u2014suggests the subject matter was, in fact, deemed serious enough to warrant his engagement through classified briefings, organizational leadership, and strategic planning when it came to UAPs.<\/p>\n<p>The Department\u2019s own documents now confirm that Tipton himself <em>\u201chosted an ASD-level meeting\u201d<\/em> on UAP issues; helped develop a <em>\u201cDoD Collection and Analysis Strategy;\u201d<\/em> and participated in drafting the framework for a <em>\u201cTechnical Roadmap,\u201d<\/em> according to September 2021 internal correspondence released in this FOIA case.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_06-46-37.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-20445\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_06-46-37.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"735\" height=\"777\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_06-46-37.png 735w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_06-46-37-284x300.png 284w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_06-46-37-150x159.png 150w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_06-46-37-450x476.png 450w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-02_06-46-37-600x634.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 735px) 100vw, 735px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>While Elizondo has faced scrutiny over the exact nature of his role, even by The Black Vault, these documents show that his intended successor was not only involved in UAP discussions\u2014but instrumental in advancing them.<\/p>\n<p>The Pentagon has yet to publicly reconcile these apparent contradictions.<\/p>\n<p>This FOIA release represents just one more piece of a broader puzzle still being put together. More documents and records may further clarify how\u2014and by whom\u2014the Pentagon\u2019s UFO investigations were managed in the years leading to the formation of AARO.<\/p>\n<p>And as this never-before-told chapter continues to unfold, The Black Vault will publish all additional records that may surface in the future. 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