{"id":7763,"date":"2019-06-05T12:57:16","date_gmt":"2019-06-05T12:57:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/?page_id=7763"},"modified":"2020-06-15T13:20:16","modified_gmt":"2020-06-15T13:20:16","slug":"the-pentagon-denies-luis-elizondos-role-in-aatip-heres-my-take","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/the-pentagon-denies-luis-elizondos-role-in-aatip-heres-my-take\/","title":{"rendered":"The Pentagon Denies Luis Elizondo&#8217;s Role in AATIP; Here&#8217;s My Take"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>by John Greenewald, Jr. &#8211; The Black Vault &#8211; June 5, 2019<\/p>\n<p>This past weekend brought some disturbing news that even I was not expecting.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/theintercept.com\/2019\/06\/01\/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Intercept<\/a>, authored by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.keithkloor.com\/\">Keith Kloor<\/a>, published a piece last Saturday that surrounded a new statement from the Pentagon. That statement read, in part:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7764\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7764\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6-5-2019-5-08-47-AM.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7764 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6-5-2019-5-08-47-AM-300x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7764\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Intercept headline, first published June 1, 2019.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h5 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u201cMr. [Luis] Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10\/4\/2017.\u201d<br \/>\n&#8212; Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood<\/strong><\/h5>\n<p>For those who are unfamiliar; Mr. Luis Elizondo has been profiled as the former director of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/to-the-stars-academy-of-arts-science-tom-delonge-and-the-secret-dod-ufo-research-program\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP)<\/a> &#8211; the US government\u2019s \u201csecret UFO research program.\u201d Now, for the first time since the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/12\/16\/us\/politics\/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">New York Times<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/magazine\/story\/2017\/12\/16\/pentagon-ufo-search-harry-reid-216111\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Politico<\/a> broke this story in December of 2017, The Pentagon has called into question what role, if any, Mr. Elizondo had with AATIP.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Elizondo is a former member of our intelligence community, and as I have said many times before, he should be commended for his service. However, he should still be questioned, as he even said himself. He has EARNED his right to respond to The Pentagon and prove that their statement is untrue.\u00a0 Mr. Kloor and The Intercept, according to their article, gave him multiple opportunities to do so, and he chose not to respond (along with other personnel from To the Stars Academy of Arts &amp; Science [TTSA]).<\/p>\n<p>Since The Intercept\u2019s article posted, the internet has gone into a frenzy. The line that separated supporters of Mr. Elizondo and those that questioned his story, has now been further dug deep into the sand.\u00a0 Some thought it was clear vindication for doubting his claims; while others instantly turned Mr. Elizondo into a martyr.<\/p>\n<p>When I first set out to find the truth behind the claims made by Mr. Elizondo, I questioned his story, but not the man. I had assumed that part was already done. As The Intercept accurately portrayed, I was very excited to learn about this story, and was not an instant skeptic.\u00a0 However, as time went on, yes, I became known as a someone who had tough questions that clearly, Mr. Elizondo still does not want to address.<\/p>\n<p>Some equated questioning as me making definitive statements or trying to attack Mr. Elizondo\u2019s honor, integrity or character.\u00a0 It was not.\u00a0 Some equated those questions as me working within a secret cabal, in cahoots with The Pentagon, and our lone intent was to take down Mr. Elizondo.\u00a0 That, too, is not true. My intent with more than twenty-two years running The Black Vault, is the truth.\u00a0 No spin, no agenda, no personal politics injected, no nothing. When I post the documents; they are the documents being posted.\u00a0 We all, myself included, can choose to make opinions thereafter.<\/p>\n<p>However, those unanswered questions that remain, arguably just became much more obvious on why they remain.\u00a0 The \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/navigating-the-twisted-maze-of-the-aatip-timeline\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Navigating the Twisted Maze of the AATIP Timeline<\/a>\u201d I created,\u00a0includes just a small portion of the discrepancies to this saga.\u00a0 Conflicting dates; confusing origins; questionable funding; all are included in the incredibly important minutia of this story \u2013 something some \u201cresearchers\u201d want you to ignore.<\/p>\n<p>I have been saying for some time, these details need to be ironed out, especially before we run front page stories or create a series on networks like The History Channel. The cart got well before the horse on this story from the onset, and now, we may be seeing the repercussions of that.<\/p>\n<p>I have made it my life\u2019s mission to uncover details about government secrets, lies, deceit and deception by the U.S. government and military, that has spanned the last century.\u00a0 However, I would be foolish to think that it is only the entities of the U.S. government and military, that can hold secrets or spew lies, deceit and deception.\u00a0 I\u2019ve been around the UFO field of research long enough to know that the number of lies by the feds that I can prove by legal means, arguably are dwarfed by the number of lies that have come from everyday individuals and former government employees injecting themselves into their own UFO-related legacy.\u00a0 Not to steal a line from the X-Files, but, \u201cTrust no one, Mr. Mulder.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a mantra I have adopted, and I will continue to do so. This entire ordeal has lost me many friends, along with visitors who say they will no longer visit The Black Vault because I have brought up discoveries, discrepancies and questions relating to this story.\u00a0 For that, I will forever be sorry that my friendship did not mean more to those that I lost, and it could be so easily diminished with a difference of opinion. I will also forever be sorry for those who feel that asking questions somehow equates to an evil, sinister agenda, out to get someone so they never return to my free site.\u00a0 I am sorry for all of that.<\/p>\n<p>But I regret absolutely nothing.<\/p>\n<p>I want the truth \u2013 and nothing but.<\/p>\n<p>The attackers slinging their mud my direction consist of those who have supported TTSA from the beginning. The same names that I have seen attack me for more than a year, now appear on Mr. Kloor\u2019s twitter feed slinging their mud his direction.\u00a0 The same people that happily display selfies with Mr. Elizondo on their Facebook walls, are the ones leading the charge against me, Mr. Kloor, and whomever else is posting the link to The Intercept.\u00a0 Yet, as of the writing of this statement, there is no Mr. Elizondo. There is no TTSA. There is no evidence to prove Mr. Kloor, well scratch that, that the Pentagon, is wrong. Just the same names, the same bloggers, the same selfie-takers, and the same super-fans.\u00a0 All shocked that quite possibly, the mainstream media in the beginning days, may have been wrong. Although that may be shocking to some that it may be a possibility; that does not make it untrue.<\/p>\n<p>According to those who still back Mr. Elizondo, and claim Mr. Kloor\u2019s article was a \u201chit piece,\u201d they are relying on only two pieces of evidence:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>A single statement, given by a former Pentagon spokesperson, that only one journalist (out of the hundreds that did stories in December of 2017) can verify. The spokesperson who allegedly gave the statement, Dana White, is the same one who was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2018\/08\/14\/us\/politics\/dana-white-pentagon-.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">under investigation<\/a> by the Inspector General\u2019s office for misconduct of her employees and she left her post in January of 2019 amid the scandal. The journalist who published that quote and is single handedly the only one who currently verifies it \u2013 happens to be making multiple appearances on the new History channel show Unidentified, starring, Mr. Elizondo. That journalist is Mr. Bryan Bender from Politico, one of the first journalists to cover the story on December 16, 2017. Please note: the aforementioned is not an accusation, but rather an observation.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paradigmresearchgroup.org\/newsitems.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Hundreds<\/a> of <a href=\"https:\/\/paradigmresearchgroup.org\/media-coverage\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">journalists<\/a> around the globe covered this story in the beginning weeks of it breaking \u2013 not one that I am aware of got the same statement.\u00a0 Those that did receive statements, all matched exactly to each other, and none of them confirmed Mr. Elizondo headed the AATIP program. The Pentagon has always maintained that he was a DOD employee, but they refused to comment further about his role (if any) until now.<\/li>\n<li>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7765\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7765\" style=\"width: 192px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6-5-2019-5-30-43-AM.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7765 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6-5-2019-5-30-43-AM-192x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"192\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6-5-2019-5-30-43-AM-192x300.png 192w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6-5-2019-5-30-43-AM-96x150.png 96w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6-5-2019-5-30-43-AM.jpg 419w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 192px) 100vw, 192px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7765\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This is the unredacted portion of a 2009 letter, that includes Mr. Luis Elizondo&#8217;s name. This pre-dates his claim of heading the program, therefore although may prove some involvement of being &#8216;read in&#8217; to the program, certainly does not validate leadership.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The only other piece of evidence is an alleged \u201cleaked\u201d letter, dated June 24, 2009, wherein Senator Harry Reid requested Special Access Program (SAP) status for AATIP. There is no provenance of this letter. The redactions were applied by investigative journalist George Knapp, who strangely, chose to (or was instructed to) redact Mr. Elizondo\u2019s name prior to originally publishing in June 2018. Despite that bizarre choice, Mr. Knapp says on his social media, in light of this new Pentagon statement, Mr. Elizondo\u2019s name is in \u201cposition #10\u201d and has released that portion of the letter that he had previously redacted. Beyond the question of why Mr. Knapp would even redact Mr. Elizondo\u2019s name in the first place, the fact remains that the letter is from June 24, 2009, which pre-dates Mr. Elizondo\u2019s claim of heading the program, by at least 5+ months. (See <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/documentarchive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/3-28-2019-5-02-51-AM.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TTSA official statement<\/a>)\u00a0 So in other words, the appearance of his name, with the date of the letter, does not address the Pentagon&#8217;s statement or the indication Mr. Elizondo did not direct the AATIP program.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Really consider this for a moment. Reverse the situation. If Mr. Kloor wrote an article, based on a single statement that only he could verify, which came from a former spokesperson who left amid scandal, and then Mr. Kloor only displayed one leaked document with no provenance, and he hinged his entire story on that \u2013 he would be chastised and likely never get a story published, let alone have his story taken seriously by anyone.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, that isn\u2019t the case.\u00a0 Rather, that hypothetical is Mr. Elizondo\u2019s current defense, by only those loudest supporters going to bat for him on social media.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Kloor hinged his article on an official Pentagon statement, which was backed by the \u201cOUSDI leadership.\u201d Also, according to the Pentagon, some of that leadership was \u201cstill there\u201d from the days Mr. Elizondo was, so therefore, they would have first-hand knowledge about his involvement, if any.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a powerful revelation \u2013 and if it is a lie \u2013 I look forward to corroborating evidence soon to come to light. In fact, I have said and offered to ALL parties involved, if that verifiable evidence presents itself, I will even help disseminate it to clear Mr. Elizondo&#8217;s name.\u00a0 That offer has been ignored by all parties.<\/p>\n<p>But despite what I want, this fight has risen above all of us.\u00a0 This debate is beyond you, me, Mr. Kloor, The Intercept, the NY Times, Mr. Knapp, Ms. Leslie Kean, the internet trolls and whomever else. It\u2019s above EVERYONE except Mr. Elizondo and his former employer.<\/p>\n<p>More than all the above, NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, should take away from a seemingly new environment where military pilots and personnel are coming forward with their experiences and encounters. NOTHING should take away from their bravery stepping forward, offering an honest recount of what happened to them. I hope, wholeheartedly, that this entire mess that we have before us does not diminish their stories or put an insurmountable obstacle in front of them and a press podium.<\/p>\n<p>They deserve better than this. The field of honest UFO research deserves better than this. WE deserve better than this.<\/p>\n<p>From here, I lift a glass to those who are so passionate, they continue to dig themselves deep into the trenches defending their beliefs \u2013 evidence based or not. I lift my glass to those journalists who believe they can not be wrong, and are digging in that they did their homework, but they just can\u2019t show you anything to prove it.\u00a0 I lift my glass to them all.<\/p>\n<p>But until something irrefutable presents itself, I will remain on the same course I have been for well more than two decades\u2026 the truth.\u00a0 If that ends up me being shunned from a community that claims they want the &#8220;truth,&#8221; although I will be incredibly let down it came to that, so be it.\u00a0 I believe strongly that the truth can survive aggressive scrutiny; while everything else, can not. It&#8217;s the latter I have always sought to expose, no matter the cost of the questions that needed to be asked and answered.<\/p>\n<p>I am in this research field not to be popular; but to be accurate. My mind is rarely made up on any topic, and that includes this one, despite what you may have read from internet trolls on various social networks. I am, and will always be open, to official Pentagon statements being wrong. But in order to definitively say that, we need actual evidence, and as you have sat down to read this &#8212; there currently is none that anyone has offered.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll see you all at the finish line \u2013 wherever and whenever that may be.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Sincerely,<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>John Greenewald, Jr.<br \/>\nOwner\/Founder<br \/>\nThe Black Vault<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/\">http:\/\/www.theblackvault.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by John Greenewald, Jr. &#8211; The Black Vault &#8211; June 5, 2019 This past weekend brought some disturbing news that even I was not expecting.\u00a0 The Intercept, authored by Keith Kloor, published a piece last Saturday that surrounded a new statement from the Pentagon. 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