John Greenewald: Hey, did you see the government's new UAP
report? Well, unless you had expectations of disclosure about
aliens, you might be pleasantly surprised. Join me, John
Greenewald Jr. As we take a deep dive into what the report is all
about, leave and take a look at what they conveniently left out.
Stay tuned, you're about to journey inside the black vault.
That's right, everybody. As always, thank you so much for
tuning in and taking this journey inside the black vault
with me, I'm your host, John Greenewald, Jr, founder and
creator of the black vault. And today, we are going to deep dive
into that newest UAP report. Now, if you have no idea what
I'm talking about, about a week ago, there was a report that was
released by arrow, the government's UFO investigative
office in the Pentagon, and they needed to get Congress by their
own legislation, they passed a historical report. Now that came
out. And to my surprise, it was actually I would say more
thorough, and arguably even better than I expected. Now, I
always keep my hopes fairly low. for stuff like this, just simply
for the obvious reason of they generally aren't going to
deliver what we want. And that would be the absolute truth. And
when you read through this thing, albeit it is very
detailed, there's a lot to it, I was surprised that it was a lot
lengthier than I expected. There were quite a few let downs along
the way. So here's what we're going to do, we're going to dive
into the report. Now keep in mind as I go over this, it is
not an endorsement of what the US government is saying or
claiming, unless I state otherwise, I think that there's
a lot of evidence to the contrary of what the government
is claiming. But I think overall, I think they've skirted
some pretty important pieces of information. So we're gonna go
over the report, we're gonna go over what they don't deal with
what they do deal with, what's wrong, what's right, what, what
do we think about the whole thing. And as always, I'm
interested in what you think as well. So if you are watching on
YouTube, if you're on the live stream, there is a chat room
active while this premieres please feel free to take part
but also post your comments. That way we can see what you
think. Because I don't always claim to be right. When we dive
into these things, I try and give as much context as
possible, labeled my opinion where applicable, but obviously,
I want to dive in with all of you guys together. Because we're
all on the same team here trying to figure this out and make
sense of all of this because it is incredibly hard to do. So let
me go ahead then and get up the presentation here. That way I
can kind of go over with you guys the report. Now, I'm going
to stress to you guys, I know that these deep dives aren't for
everybody, we are going to go into some of the nitty gritty
details. And you're going to roll your eyes just simply
because you will not believe the government you want to hear
something else. They're not going to give it to you. So let
me just again, say that upfront, this isn't an endorsement, but I
think it is important to lay the groundwork of what the US
government is trying to claim what they are trying to say with
all of this, because it is important context to the grander
picture. Now the report itself report on the historical record
of US government involvement with unidentified anomalous
phenomena. That's the report. Title, here's the first page of
it, just so you can kind of get an idea if you have not seen it.
Now forgive me here, I'm gonna move one of my screens just as
we go, so I don't lose you. And get my laser pointer up. Sorry
about that. So obviously, this is the title page, like I
mentioned, and I want to show you guys I won't read every
single word, but this is the table of contents. Now the Table
of Contents gives a pretty good idea of everything that they
cover. And as I already mentioned, fairly detailed. You
can see here, the different sections, section one, the intro
section to the executive summary. That's what we're going
to hang on quite a bit. I'll tell you in a moment why, but
we're going to stick around the executive summary for quite a
bit, scope and assumptions of the actual report and
investigation that went into this section for accounts of US
government UAP investigatory programs since 1945, so they
went all the way back to 1945 and work their way A to the
present day. Again, I'll give them a little bit of credit
there, that's fairly impressive, because there's a lot to deal
with. And with that said, that's also why I'm not going to go
over the whole report with you guys, even though that this is a
deep dive, it's 60 Plus pages or so for the total report, there's
references and citations, and so on. And there's a lot to read.
So in addition to this video, if you haven't already, read it,
take some time, if you're interested in this, you may not
buy into all of it. I don't I'll tell you that right up front.
But it doesn't matter. Take a look at all of the information
because there is much much more than what I'm about to deal
with. In this video, I'm only going to skim the surface and
talk a little bit about what I feel is, again, in my opinion,
the most important parts. So you can see here when they go back
to 1945 They are literally going all the way back to Project
saucer signed grudge twinkl grudge the reestablishment of IT
project bear that they talk about you don't hear about that
a lot, the Robertson Panel, the dirt, the dirt into reporter
Durant report, Project Bluebook, all sorts of stuff is in this
history. So my kudos, because that's a lot, there's a lot
there. But I also must add, it's also the government side of
this, the the the what they want you to believe about some of
these programs. And we'll also dive into that as well when we
get to project Bluebook. But you can see here just through the
table of contents all the way through the Roswell
investigations, there were a couple of different Roswell
explanations along the way over the decades, that was in the 90s
in the 2000s. So they deal with all of that, and right up to all
SAP and a tip and then the task force, the UA P Task Force. And
then right up to arrow, you can see over here, they deal with
NASA study, arrow, as I mentioned, and so on. So lots
lots in that section alone to go over. And I won't be going over
all of it. But just wanted to give you a rundown of what is
overviewed. In this report. Moving on Section Five
assessment of interview claims of US government involvement in
hidden UAP programs, it kind of goes into what they heard
through witnesses and various interviews that they did, no one
is named in this report. But they did give everyone a number.
And later in the report, we'll go over this section, they kind
of just give everybody just that a number and no name. So you
have to kind of fill in the blanks. Some you will be able to
others kind of a mystery, we can kind of all speculate and guess
on who some of these individuals are. But don't expect names. As
we go through here, we just have to fill in the blanks. But you
can see here all the different types of claims that they have
tackled in this section six investigation into named US
government sensitive programs. Again, what they learned from
those just a lot here. And this was a little bit of a surprise
to me, you can see it just keeps going. This is more of of the
report table of content contents. Here's a section eight
here testing and development of US national security and space
programs most likely accounted for some portion of UAP
sightings. And then it goes into all sorts of different programs,
some of what you've likely heard of others, maybe not so much,
very cool history there. But that's where it starts to veer
away from, I think, a viable explanation for a lot of these
cases, and rather, just gets into fluff. And that historical
fluff is used to not only bulk up the report, but give Congress
and anybody in the general public that reads this may be
something to fall back on. And they try and sell the
explanation that there's a lot of government secret programs
out there Special Access Programs, stuff you don't hear
about for decades, that could apply to some UAP cases. And in
some cases, that's probably true, but not all. But they
spent a lot of time going through all of these different
programs, trying to sell that narrative, and to be honest with
you, that's tried to be done for decades with the US government,
and nothing has really even stuck. In fact, when they try
and do that, like the CIA did with the YouTube flights, they
generally just stick their foot in their mouth by saying, hey,
remember all those 1950s UFO sightings? That was us? That was
one of their tweets that they tried years and years ago. And
when you actually look in the documentation, you realize it's
wrong. So this isn't a new narrative for them. They've been
selling this for decades. Sadly, they just keep failing at it,
but they keep trying again and again. So you got to give them
to you got to give that to them that at least they're trying but
sadly kind of fallen flat on explaining this away as top
secret programs.
When I said that we were going to stick with the executive
summary for a bit I meant it and here's why. When you have a
60 7080 100 or 300 page report That's a lot to go over. You
know, even for people like me who love this stuff, sometimes
it gets a little bit tedious. So with a lot of government
reports, they create what's called an executive summary. And
this essentially takes the 60 pages or so when it comes to
this report, or however many it may be, and they shrink it all
down into something that's much more manageable, readable, and
won't take a whole lot of your time versus reading the entire
report. So I'm gonna hang out here for a little bit in the
report and go over some of the sections and conclusions. To
give you guys an overview of what narrative the government is
trying to sell you with this report. I believe that there is
evidence to support that they are not completely accurate
here. But in fairness, I also believe that there's evidence to
support that they are, and it all falls back on information
that's obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, in
some cases, information that's been around for decades. Sadly,
this report just doesn't deal with it. So you'll kind of see
as we go through here, that their stuff to support what the
US government is saying, and their stuff to combat what the
US government is saying. And I'll try and deal with as much
as I can, in the in the timeframe here for this
presentation. But diving into the executive summary, you can
see here, it starts in section two. And for those that want to
follow along, you can go ahead and click on the link in the
show's description, whether it's here on YouTube, or if you're
listening to the audio podcast version. Arrow found no evidence
that any US government investigation, academic
sponsored research, or official review panel has confirmed that
any sighting of a UAP represented extraterrestrial
technology. This obviously was the biggest blow to those
wanting disclosure, that David grush has been around during the
time that this report was being written and researched. The 40
people that he claimed that he talked to those people have been
floating around with stories, some of which may have talked to
arrow, we don't know again, the list of names. But there's a lot
that people have wanted. So for them to just start off saying
Nope, there's no evidence of aliens kind of popped the
balloon, pardon the pun, of quite a few people and their
expectations, their hopes, their dreams, their wants their
desires, with reports like this, because as more of this happens,
as more of these reports are created and generated, and they
come out into the public realm. That balloon gets popped over
and over and over. And that disclosure dream that some
people have been claiming is underway. Some people, even
former government personnel, claiming that disclosure is
underway and or happening as we speak. This is not disclosure in
the way that many people have been preaching about. So that's
going to make some people cringe a little bit. But this is the
claim that the US government is making in this report. They say
although many UAP reports remain unsolved, or unidentified arrow
assesses that if more and better quality data were available.
Most of these cases also could be identified and resolved as
ordinary objects or phenomena. What's kind of frustrating about
lines like that is you don't know how to solve something if
you don't have the evidence. So how can you just say, Well, if
we had the evidence, we'd solve it. And it's not
extraterrestrial, it's not anything. Now, I should say, for
those who don't know me, I don't argue the E T hypothesis here. I
don't come at you and say it has to be alien, because we can't
explain it. But if we're doing a scientific study, and cases
don't have viable data, what do you do? Assume what that data
is, if you were to get it? No, of course not you figure out a
way to get it. And when you look at UAV, UFO and UAP history, and
you go back now literally decades, if you want to believe
the OS app stories, and the government was really funding
UAP research, we'll deal with that a little bit more in a bit.
But if you really believe all those stories, right, and take
them for what they are and their UAP studies, what did they do
for all those years and spent 10s of millions of dollars? What
did they do? They still here in 2024, issuing reports saying,
well, we just don't have good data. Well, what in the world
were all these investigative programs doing? Spending 10s of
billions of dollars like OSS, AP that we can prove? And when I
say prove, we know the money went there, whether it was
mismanaged or not, that's a different conversation. But
regardless if if they really were trying to investigate UAP
and UFOs What did they do with that money? What did a tip do?
If you believe all the stories there that Luis Elizondo headed
this program within the Pentagon? What did they do for
years according to his side of the story? It was from 2007, or
2008, again, depending upon which Interviewer You listened
to, all the way through 2017, that he was doing the a tip
program. So let's just say it wasn't even a program, it was a
portfolio and he didn't even have funding for it. And he was
trying to, to do something when it came to UAP. What exactly did
they do? And I think those are all important questions, as
taxpayers look from the outside, in that 10s of millions of
dollars that we can prove have been spent, or people's times in
their free time, whatever, whatever the explanation is, we
still don't have data to look at. So that's what's frustrating
about this is that we keep hearing this over and over. And
if you know, your UFO history, when you go back to Bluebook,
they use some of the same excuses, that they couldn't
solve a certain number of cases, on paper, they claimed 701. But
if you look at it's probably a much larger number. They lacked
data. And they even said back then decades ago, if we had
data, we can solve these cases, from a scientific perspective,
how can you say that? Right? If you don't have the data, then
you don't have the data, you can't assume what the data is.
That's not science. That's just simply an explanation, not a
investigation. So you have to look at the difference there. So
I was frustrated to see that right off the bat in the
executive summary here, that in 2024, they are continuing that
line, that they can't solve amount of certain amount of
cases. But don't worry, if we had more data, we probably
could. Well, those are assumptions that aren't fair to
make, because you don't know what the data is clearly because
you don't have it. Arrow found no empirical evidence for claims
that the US government and private companies have in
reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology,
Arrow determined based on all information provided to date,
the claims involving specific people known locations,
technological tests, and documents allegedly involved in
or related to the reverse engineering of extraterrestrial
technology are inaccurate, additional claims will be
addressed in volume two. It then starts to go through a bullet
point list of some of the claims that they looked at, and
essentially the conclusions that they came out with. And these
are important to look at because again, it did summarizes a much
lengthier explanation later in the report. But they interviewed
about 30 witnesses or so for this particular report and took
the main claims and this is kind of what they they dove into UAP
non disclosure agreements aro has found no evidence of any
authentic UAP related NDA or other evidence threatening
death, or violence for disclosing UAP information. A
CIA official allegedly managed UAP experimentation, the named
former CIA official was not involved in the movement of
extraterrestrial technology. The same former CIA officer signed a
memo rejecting a claim made by interviewees that he managed the
movement of an experienced experimentation on off world
technology. Now we can have our guests on who the CIA official
is, maybe people are bantering or even figured it out. I
haven't seen it by the recording of this. And yeah, I might have
a couple ideas. But as I start to read through this, whether
true or not, and you believe the government or not, I don't know,
to be honest with you what the right way is here. I think it's
a mixture of both. But when it comes to claims like this, I
kind of feel like these are the names that we've come to know.
And that they say things to the general public. And they say
them over and over, and sometimes for decades on end.
And when push comes to shove, and now they're under oath or
giving on the record statements to a US government investigative
agency for the DOD. It's like they back up and say, Oh, well,
no,
I never really, I never really said that. I never really meant
that, or back off from the story altogether. Or maybe they've
made the claims more in private. And then again, when push comes
to shove, their name gets dropped to an investigative arm
like Arrow arrow says, Hey, what's the truth behind this?
And they go, no, no, that's maybe a little misunderstanding.
I don't know. That's speculation. I'm label labeling
that speculation. But I think as I've read a couple of these
things, and some of which are in this presentation as we move
forward, keep that in the back of your mind because it makes
you wonder these names that keep coming around that have been
around for decades that find themselves in these programs,
and the claims that they make in the general public. When that
push comes to shove, are they backing up to the US government
and going on actually, that's not the way it is, and they back
off of it? Just something to keep in mind. Alleged UAP
intelligence community document An alleged 1961 special national
intelligence estimate that was quote leaked to online sources
suggest the Extra Terrestrial nature's The Extra Terrestrial
nature of UFOs. Is inauthentic. Yeah, pretty confident I know
what document that would be to likely tied to the MJ 12 stuff.
Regardless, you know, a lot of these documents have surfaced
over the years. This is what arrow was brought. And that
really surprised me as I started going through this, that that's
what they spent their time on. Aliens present during a DOD
technology test. Arrow reviewed information related to an
account of an interviewee overhearing a conversation about
a technology test at a military base where aliens allegedly were
observing an arrow judges that the interviewee misunderstood
the conversation claimed that a military officer touched an
offworld craft. an interviewee claimed that an unnamed former
military officer explained in detail how he physically touched
an extraterrestrial spacecraft is inaccurate. The claim was
denied on the record by the named former officer who
recounted a story of when he touched an F 117 Nighthawk
stealth fighter that could have been misconstrued by the
interviewee, though the named former officer does not recall
having this conversation with the interviewee. So it's another
one of those instances where somebody goes to arrow and say,
Hey, I was told this by so and so. And then so and so goes in
there and arrow questions AMA, and they go no, I mean, I was
touching maybe an f1 17 stealth fighter but not UFOs. How much
of this is the interviewees mistake? Or how much is this the
interviewee truly hearing what he did, or she recollecting that
two arrow and then that person that made the claim backs off?
So to me again, there's a couple instances where you you can't
help but think that that is a potential possibility. Test of
offworld technology and interviewee claimed that he
witnessed what he believed to be the testing of extraterrestrial
technology at a US government facility almost certainly was an
observation of an authentic, non UAP related technology test
that's strongly correlated in time, location, and description
provided in the interviewees account. UAP disclosure study
interviewees claimed that between 2004 and 2007, the White
House requested a research institute in Virginia studied
the theoretical societal impacts of disclosing that UAP are
extraterrestrial in origin. Arrow confirmed that the study
was conducted, but it was not requested by the White House.
Named companies allegedly experimenting on alien
technology, Arrow has found no evidence that US companies ever
possessed offworld technology. The executives, scientists and
chief technology officers of the companies named by interviewees
met with the director of ero and denied on the record that they
have ever recovered, possessed, or engaged in reverse
engineering of extraterrestrial technology. experimentation on
alleged extraterrestrial spacecraft sample, Arrow has
concluded that a sample from an alleged crashed offworld
spacecraft that arrow acquired from a private UAP investigating
organization and the US Army is a manufactured terrestrial alloy
and does not represent offworld technology or possess any
exceptional qualities. The sample is primarily composed of
magnesium and zinc and then it goes on from there. In other
words TTSA and to the stars. And we can fill in that gap because
we know that to the stars Academy of Arts and Science,
which has now been rebranded into the entertainment company
of to the stars media, founded by Tom DeLonge. That's how Luis
Elizondo came and got introduced to the world. Chris Mellon was
involved with that, again, a lot of those names that you hear
over and over Dr. Howell put off, who had ties back to all
SAP and Bigelow Aerospace. During the OSS AP days, fast
forward was part of TTSA still is from what I understand, or at
least the last I checked anyway, but regardless, a lot of the
same names involved with that organization, they acquire a
piece of an alleged UAP ship from Linda Moulton Howe. If
you're not familiar, I did a long interview with Linda.
Shortly after she sold that piece to the stars Academy for
what was reported as I believe $35,000. She goes into great
detail. Arrow got a hold of it. And they communicated with the
army which by the way, I'm going after through FOIA all those
communications between the army and arrow, but they investigated
it and found that it was absolutely nothing extraordinary
whatsoever. They go On with some of their conclusions arrow
assesses that all of the named individuals or excuse me all of
the named and described alleged hidden UAP reverse engineering
programs provided by interviewees either do not exist
are misidentified authentic, highly sensitive national
security programs that are not related to extraterrestrial
technology, exploitation, or resolve to an unwarranted or
disestablished program. Obviously, here, we're now
leaning towards the David grush, slash UFO whistleblower claims
that we've heard a lot about in the last year, he claimed a lot
about this, that there's 40 People floating around that he
talked to, that essentially led him to those conclusions,
whether you want to call it hearsay or not, there is still
no supporting evidence that's been put forward by this with
whistleblower to support any of that, and I think that arrow,
although has not talked to David grush, as far as I'm aware,
there's been a couple of different varying explanations
why, but it sounds like arrow in one story, did not get back to
David grush. That came from the Congressional hearing that David
grush took part in. The other one was that David grush, did
not essentially trust arrow or Dr. Shawn Kirkpatrick did not
want to get the interview done, because he didn't trust them.
Whichever way you slice it or dice it. It sounds like that
Arrow did interview people that that maybe came from David
Gratias List of 40. They looked into those claims, and they
couldn't verify them. Now, here's what I'll say. Would
arrow have access to that? And in my personal opinion, the
answer would be no. It doesn't matter. That arrow has all of
this access, and they claim they have access, and the DoD really
wants them to have that answer. Let's play a hypothetical here.
If they really had extraterrestrial exploitation
programs of technology that was out of this world, you would not
hear from them. I just don't think you would. And I think
that people that have those beliefs that are coming forward,
I think some of them are genuine. I think David grush is
absolutely genuine, conveying the information that he has. I'm
skeptical about the roots of his claims. And I still question why
he hasn't shown his doctor review. I think that that is
crucially important to this. But despite that skepticism, I do
think that he's genuine, I think that he did his investigation,
he he probably did talk to 40 people, you probably recognize a
lot of the names that he talked to, or you may not recognize
their names, but I bet you $1 That that day spoke to people
that you recognized. And so I think that that genuine
conveying of the information is just that it's genuine. But if
there's no concrete evidence to anybody, highlight, or
spotlight, I should say to the public, that we should have it,
the general public should have it. None of that should be
classified. In my opinion.
You can't fight this. And that's what's frustrating. And I've
said it for years, even prior to David grush. Coming around, when
you highlight stories, that are just that stories, you're going
to get traction from the sensationalism of it, but you're
not going to have it solidify with the general public, and and
really coalesce into a movement. If you don't bring evidence
along with it. I posted on social media. A week or so ago,
when this report came out. And I said essentially, it's time for
the quote unquote, whistleblowers, and I put it in
quote, to become whistleblowers, without quotes. My entire point
there is that yes, we can label whomever we want as a
whistleblower with their stories. But if they don't back
it up with actual evidence, we can never show it to Sean
Kirkpatrick or arrow or anybody involved, or show it to the
cameras on mainstream media and go look, the US government won't
tell you, but we will. And I would absolutely, in my personal
opinion, bet $1, again, that nobody who comes forward with
proof of extraterrestrial technology is going to be taken
away in cuffs for breaching their NDA or security clearance.
Because I don't believe that it's justified to keep something
like that secret or classified. It's why I push as much as I do
on this particular topic with the US government. There are
some cases away from UFO stuff that I think should be
classified and remain so there's stuff with UFOs that I actually
think sure I can understand why that's classified like the
sensor system that might be from a class If I had platform or
radar or whatever detection system sure I get it, that's
classified technology, and rightfully so. But the
technology that it's capturing if it truly is out of this world
shouldn't be classified at all. So it just shouldn't be. And so
somebody comes forward and proves to the world, right? They
change humanity. Imagine if the US government, carted them off
away to Guantanamo Bay, and said, This is where you're gonna
be the rest of your life and lock the key and lock the cell
and throw away the key. I don't buy it, I really just don't.
Okay. So that's why I said, let's get those quote unquote,
whistleblowers to now be whistleblowers come out, come
out with this information, and just put it out there. Because
these stories are not getting us anywhere. It's not because I
don't want to believe them. It's not because I want the mystery
to linger. It's, it's time, it's just time for the evidence, no
more talks, no more books, no more private lectures to groups,
none of that. If you want to change humanity, just change it,
come out with it. And I guarantee then you would have a
movement, nobody is going to be carted away to jail for that.
And you will change humanity in the process. But they're nowhere
to be found. They have the secret groups and secret
beliefs. And according to some people, they leak their secret
breadcrumbs to bloggers and stuff like that. That's
ridiculously silly. Because if there's evidence floating out
there, now's the time, especially after a report like
this comes out. Arrow assesses that the inaccurate claim that
the US government has reverse engineering extraterrestrial
technology, and is hiding it from Congress is in large part,
the result of circular reporting from a group of individuals who
believe this to be the case, despite the lack of any
evidence. The same thing that many of us have said, for years,
those that feel there is something to these phenomena,
that there is something to this topic, and I'm speaking about me
with that I believe that there's something to this. But my
biggest fear was that the same types of people, do they really
have the keys to the cosmos that they know, all of the government
secrets and everything there is to know about extra terrestrial
technology and, and secret government programs. And it's
all the small group of people? Or are those the storytellers
and the real story is hidden somewhere else? That it's that
it's not within the reach of of a podcast, or an upcoming book.
But rather, you have to fight for that truth. And by fight, I
mean, seek it out. You have to do whatever legal means that you
can with the US government. I hate the war rhetoric. So that's
why I wanted to correct the fight reference there. But every
legal way to do this, and if if and if it's a whistleblower
coming out and giving that information that should not be
legally classified. That's one of those rare instances where
I'd support it, bring them out, let's see that information. And
yet, they're they're not there. It all routes to the same group
of people. So now, it's not me telling you that, right? It's
not mainstream media. Now, the US government is saying to that
doesn't mean it's true. But I hope that you guys recognize
that that this is problematic, that we hear those same people
over and over and over with their stories. And nothing has
ever proven. So now, the government is congressionally
mandated to do this report. And they're hearing from the same
people coming to the same conclusion that many of us have,
that a lot of these guys are just spewing out stories. And
that's what's frustrating. Because they're not looking,
they meaning arrow, at the real information, the government
documents, the intelligence reports, and the data that we
know is there. Instead, they're focusing on stories. And that's
what's frustrating for someone like me, and I'll deal with that
towards the end of this on how much they really have missed.
Arrow notes that although claims that the US government has
recovered and hidden spacecraft back to the 1940s and 50s, more
modern instances of these claims largely stem from a consistent
group of individuals who have been involved in various UAP
related endeavors since at least 2009. What happened in 2009, all
SAP was stood up and was underway. Dr. Howell put off
Robert Bigelow, Dr. Colin Keller, her all of the names
that we're seeing today. It seems like that's who they're
referring to here that they're the ones that are routed to the
stories. Many of these individuals were involved in are
supportive of a canceled dia program, and the subsequent but
failed attempt to re establish this program under the
Department of Homeland Security. hauled Kona Blue. That's new
Kona Blue is new. Now we knew back in January, Dr. Shawn
Kirkpatrick had said that there was this effort to get DHS to
continue us up. Now, in fairness to James McCaskey, the DIA
scientist, who on again, on the DIA side headed OS app, they
brought that out, I believe in skinwalkers at the Pentagon
first, that there was an effort to get DHS involved. But no one
knew the name Kona Blue, and no one knew the extent of it. I'll
bring up Kona Blue later in the slide presentation, because it
does go in this report goes into more detail. But I think I'm
going to hold off going into much detail on it. Because I
smell a deeper dive on Kona Blue, and what's going to come
out, I don't have that firsthand knowledge. I don't know exactly
what's going to come out. But let's just say I have a feeling
that there's going to be more documentation from DHS. I've had
a case since January for it. We also know that through Stephen
Green Street and the New York Post who was monitoring the
error website noted that Kona documents may be added there.
They have removed that link. But essentially it was like they
were editing a live page. And to Steven green streets credit
noted that that the report was likely on its way out because
they had a dead link, but it was programmed in and then this Kona
Blue reference with documents. So there was that as well. And
Shawn Kirkpatrick has also referenced Kona Blue material
being released. So all of these kinds of puzzle pieces are
fitting together that that there's going to be more to that
on what they wanted to do with continuing off SAP but failed to
do it because DHS said no, that's not of interest. Arrow
assesses that UAP sightings and reports of the sightings to US
government organizations and claims that some UAP constitute
Extra Terrestrial craft and that the US government has secured
and is experimenting on an extraterrestrial technology have
been influenced by a range of cultural, political, and
technological factors. Arrow bases this conclusion on the
following factors. The aggregate findings of the US government
investigations to date have not found even one case of UAP
representing offworld technology. None of the programs
mentioned by interviewees are UAP reverse engineering
programs, and all the authentic programs have been properly
notified and reported to Congress through the
congressional defense and or intelligence committees. Arrow
has no evidence for the US government reverse engineering
narrative provided by interviewees, and has been able
to disprove the majority of the interviews interviewees claims,
some claims are still under evaluation, curious, but what's
still under evaluation. Error determined that a piece of metal
alleged to be recovered from an offworld spacecraft is ordinary
of terrestrial origin, and possesses no exceptional
qualities.
So I'll say it again, if there really is those UAP reverse
engineering programs, I don't believe arrow would have access
to it. I believe they would stay in the black world, I believe
that they would not be put out to the public and quite possibly
Congress would be left in the dark as well. That is proven by
decade's worth of programs that have not been told to Congress
or if they have, it's a very small select group of congress
that's made aware of these and their security oaths takeover,
that they are properly briefed, but they don't go to a press
conference or whatever, and start talking about whatever
highly classified program they may have been briefed on
privately. So whole point being, this is all silliness to me.
Because when you look at government secrets as a whole
that goes back decades and decades and decades, inside and
outside the UFO arena, there are secrets here that I just don't
believe would come out, and an unclassified report all because
Congress says You better tell us what you did with UFOs and UAP.
I think that there's enough evidence now to support that
there is a massive secrecy layer over this topic. And it is not
as easily dismissed, as this report wants to have us believe.
Again, I'm not preaching the alien narrative. But what I am
saying is that all of this fluff that's in here are dealing with
those unsubstantiated stories, but the real stuff, the stuff
that does come out through documentation throughout CIA,
DIA, NSA, so on and so forth. They just ignore it. They just
don't even deal with it. In this book. They deal with the cover
stories of Bluebook and grudge and all of those UFO
investigative programs, but they don't deal with the
documentation. Beyond that. That's what's frustrating.
Several factors domestic and international, most likely
influenced sightings reports in the belief by some individuals,
that there is a sufficient proof that some UAP represent Extra
Terrestrial technology. So again, they're just driving this
home over and over and over about it's not alien. Since, but
they're not dealing with the actual information and evidence
that they have that has come out through FOIA and that people
like me have question for literally decades. Arrow
assesses that some portion of sightings since the 40s have
represented Miss identification never before seen experimental,
and operational space rocket and air systems, including stealth
technologies and the proliferation of drone
platforms. I showed you in the table of contents, they show all
of these different programs, and so on and so forth. But what's
interesting is that you really can't attribute any of these top
secret programs to the military sightings that have been
documented, like the tic tac encounter, even though I am
skeptical about that being anything but a classified
platform being tested, they still haven't explained it yet.
So I may be skeptical and say that's likely what that is just
by the story and the evidence and so on. But it hasn't been
confirmed yet. And you even go back to the Blue Book Day, some
of the bigger cases like the Socorro landing, that people
have theories on the one where there was a test of a lunar
lander. Another one was a hoax from neighboring students. I
know people have theories, but the government has never been
able to connect those dots. So they try and claim overall, hey,
this was us, or the large part it was us, but they don't deal
with the stuff again, from the military side. They kind of
gloss over that. And they want the general public to believe
these blanket responses. Oh, it was it was just us. Don't worry
about that. And I go back to that CIA tweet. They tried it
years ago with the utu. And yet not a single major sighting,
from the mid to the late 50s, when they were flying, the utu
lined up to anything that they could actually connect. But that
didn't stop them from trying. So that's why I always press look
at the actual documentation, look at the information that's
available. Don't listen to these silly reports, use these reports
to work backwards and see how they came to these conclusions.
If evidence supports it, great. If evidence doesn't support it,
then even better, because then you get to see a little bit more
of that picture. And try a little bit harder for the
evidence to support or refute what the government is saying.
If it wasn't obvious already, this was Volume One, there is
going to be a volume two. So this particular one that we've
been going over, it covers the findings from 1945 to October,
the end of October and 2023. Last year. Essentially that's
their their cutoff date, so they have to cut it off somewhere,
then they deal with that, write the report and then release it.
Volume Two will include any findings resulting from
interviews and research completed from one November 2023
to 15, April 2024. So now they're going to they're going
to go back, then here we are almost in April, what is it?
March 19. Once we get to mid April, then they're going to
start creating that volume too. So who have they talked to what
more information findings did they make? Who knows kind of a
crapshoot to guess at this point, but that will then be
Volume Two, so much more modern. Hopefully they will deal with
the tic tac hopefully they will deal with some of these other
cases. I know they're trying to explain away the the go fast and
the gimbal. And in fairness, they might be right, that
science and the debate about glare and not glare and it's
going fast. No, it's not that science is over my head. I don't
even care to pretend to know what they're talking about with
their calculations. All I know is that it's a mess. And all I
know is that it's pitted skeptics, against believers and
everyone in between. And everybody just seems like
they're caught up in those cases, arguing for months and
years on end about trying to solve those particular cases.
It's almost not to sound conspiratorial, it's almost like
that's the plan. Like let those things leak. Because Have you
ever noticed that no one really got in trouble. They did their
investigation and into those three videos that came out. And
obviously the story was completely bunk, by the way that
I can comfortably say because the story we were originally
told about the FLIR, the gimbal in the end of 2017, and then the
go fast in March of 2018. The stories behind those was just
bunk, how they came out why they came out. Just not the same.
It's not the same story. But why wasn't anybody ever really held
accountable for taking information from the Department
of Defense? And according to Christopher Mellon, bending the
rules, then leaking out don't mind my dog leaking out I agree.
Leaking how the information to Christopher Mellon in the
parking lot of the Pentagon. Those are stories that are being
told and documentaries and podcast interviews by
Christopher Mellon himself, and then conveyed by others with no
problem whatsoever. Imagine if they were to take information
about, you know, I don't want to get in too much trouble, but a
political figure of some kind or their family of some kind, and
then bent the rules to get that out on a on a CD ROM package and
leaked it out to somebody to feed to the media, in the
Pentagon parking lot. Do you think that somebody would care
about that? And the answer is yes. But it's like with the UFO
and UAP stuff and the leaks that not only stopped with the FLIR,
the gimbal in the go fast, but rather went all the way for a
couple of years, where you had various photographs that leaked
out that it seemed like there was no problem. And then the
Pentagon would even say, oh, yeah, that's utilized by the UAP
Task Force. But but we can't comment past that. Really? Like
how does that not matter to anybody there. And yet, when
others are involved with leaking information on other topics, or
sneaking stuff out on a Discord server, which I believe
happened, they're charged immediately, and they're gone
after? So what are we doing here? Like, what is it with
UFOs? And UAP? That makes the Pentagon go up that who cares?
It's leaking, yet all this other stuff leaks, and all of a
sudden, you're like, boom, boom, boom, seeing investigation,
prosecution? What's going on there? And again, it's like,
that's the intention keep everybody screaming about
algorithms and glare and not glare? And is it turning? Is it
rotating? Is there really a fleet of them or not, just keep
them busy over there, because they're not going to see what's
going on over here. And for me, that's the greatest trick of a
magician, I've talked about that analogy for years, look at my
right hand, so you don't see what's going on in my left. And
that is the absolute number one strategy to government secrecy.
It's also why I call it the counter intelligence value to
the UAP conversation, because you have no idea what the
government actually knows or believes, what they have found
out or what they're still investigating, you have no idea.
And then you've got all these voices that have come out. And
they've all got different varying degrees of their story.
Many of them work together. But even their stories don't align.
It's like they want to mess you up with your thinking. It's like
they want to mess the topic up. It's like they want to destroy
what has been built for decades of those that have looked into
this topic and have come to the conclusion based on documented
evidence, official FOIA responses, and even outside of
the government, the investigations that they've done
independently, have come to the conclusion for themselves. There
is something to this, yet these other former government
officials come along, everybody's got all these
stories, nothing's backed up. And where are we at? We're with
where we're at is now we have a report that the majority of the
mainstream media just bought hook line, hook, line and
sinker. And they want the general public to go, I guess
there's really not anything to that UFO topic. And then you're
gonna see the decade, the cover up last for a couple of decades,
again, or half a century again, and then they're not going to
deal with it. And that's why I've always been passionate
about pushing back on these stories, because when they're
only stories, in the end, they will hurt. And I believe that
this is a prime example of how they have hurt. Moving on in the
report, they talk about Project Bluebook, again, more in depth,
and then they go into the results of all the varying
projects that they deal with from again, 1945 all the way
through all SAP a tip and beyond. And they talked about
the results. And what was kind of interesting, if you didn't
catch up just from a historical perspective, the project
Bluebook label is kind of the stance that the US government
has had had, for literally decades, it became prior to 2017
when we found out about a tip, really the centerpiece to my
research, not because of blue book itself. But because that
was the stance of the US government. What you see on the
right of your screen, there is the fact sheet on UFOs that the
US Air Force, and many government agencies would send
out and they sent it out for decades, trying to make anybody
like myself believe the findings of project Bluebook and
essentially it's verbatim no you have no UFO reported,
investigated and evaluated by the US Air Force demonstrated
any indication of a threat to national security. You can see
here that's pretty much verbatim number two, there was no
evidence submitted to or discovered by the US Air Force
that sightings represented technological developments or
principles beyond the range of then present day scientific
knowledge. You can see that pretty much right there
scientific knowledge number three There was no evidence
indicating that sightings categorized as on identified are
extraterrestrial vehicles. Look at that. It's right there. So
what essentially they were doing that because this is today's
report, you know, in 2024, this was created decades ago. It's
the same darn thing. Now, I don't expect them to change the
findings and project Bluebook. But my whole point here is that
these facts that were conveyed on these fact sheets and sent
out again, to people like me, there were no supporting facts,
factual evidence to go along with those facts. They were in
quote, facts. They were just kind of made up. Because when
you actually look at the evidence, I'm not saying that it
was alien or extraterrestrial. So with that reference, excluded
on that there were clear violations of military Aerospace
has training exercises, and what could be defined as a national
security threat. So the fact that they're still trying to say
that is ridiculous. So they're, they're going by the same
playbook, but the same evidence that debunked blue book as a
true investigation. And rather, I just label it a explanation.
Because when you deep dive into that history, and it is pretty
interesting, but when you deep dive into it, you realize it
wasn't a investigation, they were simply trying to explain to
the general public, almost exactly like they are doing now.
Get the general public to believe what we want them to
believe, put forward these statements, these claims and
say, Hey, trust me, bro, we investigated it, we are arrow
and they said, No, they're not doing any extra terrestrial
recovery programs, or there's not this claim or that claim to
be supported. And we believe them. So they discount all of
the witnesses that came in, because they only came in with a
memorandum or on the record statement after their interview.
Then they go to the private sector, and they go to these
aerospace companies say, Hey, do you guys have a piece of
extraterrestrial technology? And the aerospace company says,
Well, no, we don't. And here's a, here's a statement on the
record. And we'll sign a memo stating that arrow believes them
but discounts the witnesses. Is that fair? Not really, because
it's not scientific. It's an explanation, the same playbook,
that blue book did from the 50s. And 60s, is being done today.
And you can see that they're using the exact same word from
DACA, from documents decades ago, to describe blue book then,
and they are still doing the same tactic today. What's also
kind of funny, too, is when you all you got to do is factcheck.
Okay, again, I get so worked up, I guess you could say just
simply because they try and pass off the same stories over and
over and over. And when you look at Roswell? Look, I don't know
what happened at Roswell. I don't know if it was alien or
not. What I can prove beyond any shadow of a doubt, is that their
explanations just don't make sense. If they really wanted to
explain it away, they wouldn't have had to do so now like four
different times. And when you look at their fourth
explanation, because it did change from the weather balloon
to then the top secret mogul balloons, and they tried to
claim the flights lined up when you just hone in on this part of
the 2024 report. And they deal with the Roswell investigation
inquiries. You can see here it'll go through all the
different history and again, great history read it really
urge you to, they come up with the same points, you know, that
they've tried to drill for, for decades now. That the alien
bodies quote unquote, were essentially these crash test
dummies that the US Air Force was using that those bodies that
were seen in a hospital because why would you take a dummy to a
hospital, we're actually connected to a 1956 KC 97
aircraft accident where 11 Air Force pilots were killed, and a
1959 man balloon mishap in which two air force pilots were
injured. So what they were doing was connecting those witnesses
that saw bodies within the hospital, maybe mangled humans,
I hate to say it that way but being either killed or injured
in these incidents. That was that was the dot they were
trying to connect to these witnesses that were coming
forward and the Roswell incident. But but the problem
was, and again, even in 2024, they still haven't dealt with
this, that the crash test dummies weren't invented until a
couple of years after Roswell allegedly happened anyway. So
what you're looking at there, Sierra Sam was the first crash
test dummy ever to be invented by Alderson research labs, and
Ciara engineering company back in 1949. And those two incidents
if you caught it when I set it 1956 and 1959. Those were
connected back to the 1947 incident. Is everyone wrong? Did
they all get their dates wrong? They all misremembered. Sure
maybe or is This ridiculous is this now explanation number
four, not as as truthful as they could be. And I lean towards not
as truthful as they could be. Now, what's beyond the
historical perspective on this, they do go to what we hear about
a lot more nowadays. And that is all SAP and a tip. Some people
love this. And it's interesting to see how it is interpreted in
different ways from those who want to believe certain things
about this. Now, I have stuck with the facts. I hope you guys
know that with me when it comes to a tip and the claims that
have come out over the years, backed up by official
documentation when I try and make a claim or refute a claim.
And I do my best to stay as factual as I can. So when I got
to this section, I read it with great interest. And sure enough,
it actually deals with a very big problem that has been around
for years when it comes to OSS, AP and a tip. And what is the
difference between OSS AP and a tip? Was there a difference? And
I've pointed out that Dr. Howell put off in a lecture quite a few
years ago now
said that a tip was only a nickname that OS app was the
actual program. And the $22 million did not go to a program
called a tip. It went to all sap the contractor bass that was all
part of Bigelow Aerospace run by Robert Bigelow. These are all
names and stories we've heard about for years. But when you
dig into these claims, if you just listen to how put off it
kind of makes sense because I would get attacked right from
people that would listen to how put off and they'd come to me
and say, John, you're saying you're not finding any aid tips
stuff, but this is why it's only a nickname. It's not really the
program or SAP was the program that was the UFO investigation
effort that everybody is talking about. But you have to admit
Luis Elizondo because Luis Elizondo said no, no, no. Os app
was a program. And a tip was a program. I ran that program.
That's what Elizondo says. So now, Louise Elizondo, and Dr.
Howell put off, they completely contradict each other. I pointed
that out for years. And yet, no one seems to those that want to
believe everybody, no one seems to care about the contradiction.
They just say they're all telling the truth, which can't
be true, but they just believe all sides. And I'm the bad guy
for actually questioning it. But in this report, they deal with
it, and they say the following note on program names, the names
OS app and a tip have been used interchangeably for the name of
this program, including on official documentation. I'd like
OS up. A tip was never an official DoD program. However,
after Ossip was cancelled, the ATEP moniker was used by some
individuals associated with an informal, unofficial UAP
community of interest within DOD that researched UAP sightings
from military observers as part of their ancillary job duties.
This effort was not a recognized official program, and had no
dedicated personnel or budget. Don't kill the messenger on
this, because I know I'm gonna get hate mail and this part will
be clipped out and chopped up. And I'll be taken out of
context. But the government actually has supporting evidence
of this. When you look at all the documentation that has come
out, it actually fully supports what the US government said,
that explains the confusion on the whole aerospace versus
aviation debate. For those that have been around this channel
long enough. I don't regret that one bit. And the reason is, is
because I smelled back then there was a problem with the
name, that it turns out that that whole aviation versus
aerospace thing was absolutely a debate worth having. Why?
Because it actually led to this, that a tip was not a program at
all. It took a couple of years. But it actually was revealed
that Louise Elizondo himself sent a letter to the to the
Department of Defense in the Pentagon, namely the press
office, to get them to change their stance on his duties with
a tip. He conceded in one of those letters, that maybe you
shouldn't call it I'm paraphrasing here, but
essentially, don't call it a program, call it a portfolio, if
you will. In other words, he finally conceded that this is
true, that it was not an official program. If it's a
portfolio that was done unofficially, great. I really
wish that they would have come out with that type of a story in
the beginning. I really do. Because I wouldn't have been as
skeptical I would have bought it. I have reams of evidence to
show that there was something to the UFO and UAP issue and that
it was being ignored. And if Luis Elizondo had come out and
said, Hey, look, when I could I was running this portfolio,
would it call it whatever you want at that point, but no one
really knew because no one cared. No one cared about this
issue, but I knew It was important, I would be all over
that. That would be something that would be completely
believable. But that's not what we were told. So now the
government has tried to make sense of this mess. And they're
coming up with the same conclusions that many of us have
had for years that it was not a program. When I say there's
evidence to support this, there are documents that have come
out, that used a tip interchangeably with offset.
Why? Because Harry Reid did when he tried to get it in 2009 to
become a sap. That's what he referred to it as as the
nickname. That's what they wanted to call us up. Within
dia, they then started talking internally using that acronym,
because that's how Harry Reid referred to it. And it was the
advanced aerospace threat and identification program. So they
had an and in there. So it was like another variation of it. So
the documentation actually supports what the government is
saying here. And you'll see here as we dive a little bit deeper
into the section, that there's even more evidence to support
this section of the report. Although investigating UFOs
slash UAP was not specifically outlined in the contract
statement of work. The selected private sector organization
conducted UFO research with the support of the DIA program
manager. We know for a fact that that's Dr. James McCaskey. Why,
because it was on the original bid solicitation that was public
for all not classified and posted on the Internet back in
2008. Seeking out bids, they only collected bids for a couple
of weeks. And how many actually bid on it. Just one? And you
guessed it, it was Robert Bigelow. It was falsely reported
that Lockheed put in a bid as well, how that came to pass and
why it was reported that way, I don't know. But clearly, this
was only one bidder. That was Robert Bigelow and bass OS app
slash a tip. So they're now using it interchangeably because
they find it the same, also investigated an alleged hotspot
of UAP and paranormal activity at a property in Utah, which at
the time was owned by the head of the private sector,
organization, or bass, including examining reports of shadow
figures that's in quotes, and quote, creatures and exploring,
quote, remote viewing, and, quote, human consciousness
anomalies. The organization also plan to hire psychics to study
inter quote, interdimensional phenomena, believed to
frequently appear at that location. Do excuse me, di a did
not seek nor specifically authorized this work, though a
DIA employee set up and manage the contract with the private
sector organization. In other words, yet again, this is
something that we've spoken about for years right here on
this channel, what was official? And what was off the rails? Why
is this important? Because it puts everything that's happened.
And that's been claimed, since 2017. About these programs into
perspective, what was official, and what was not all SAP was
officially a forward looking Aerospace Technology Research
exploration program that looked into 12 different types of
advancements. And these programs have been done before I found
another one called Project outgrowth, it happened about 40
years before OS app, whole point being, these are not new types
of programs. This is something that that happens, they want to
look into the future. What can our enemies have? What could we
have? How can we get there, so on and so forth? So what was
official? It was that what was unofficial? Was this UFO UAP
invested paranormal, human consciousness anomalies, remote
viewing, and creatures that veered completely off the map.
The documentation supports the first part of what I just told
you, the aerospace research the forward looking into 40 years
into the future, what type of advancements could they have
what are called from lift or propulsion, or, again, there was
a list of about 12 of them. That is all supported. Nothing has
come out to support UAP or paranormal phenomena on these
ASA documents. Point being. It puts everything into perspective
on what we've heard. And it also should, it won't for some
people, but it should make us question some of the other
claims, because this is not what we were told. And at this point,
you can dismiss the government report, but in this particular
section, evidence exists to back it up just does don't kill the
messenger. So with that said, it is right to question some of the
claims from those people that have been around the same core
group With that the government has found at the root of some of
these bigger claims, it's right to question them. And don't ever
hesitate to do so. Don't be intimidated either. Because
there's a lot of people out there attorneys included, that
will send you legal threatening letters. If you're digging into
documentation like this and publishing them. That's a true
story. So don't hesitate to question because there is ample
reason to do so. Just prior to do these cancellation of the
program, the private sector organization proposed as a new
line of effort to host a series of, quote intellectual debates
at academic institutes to influence the public debate,
which included hiring supportive reporters, and celebrity
moderators. I don't know what they were trying to turn that
into. But clearly, they were trying to do something else. To
be honest with you, I immediately kind of thought of
the Soul Foundation and Dr. Gary Nolan and what they're doing
with these intellectual debates on their end.
Obviously, he's tied into some of the same people in this
group. So is that a private sector continuation of this? Are
they looking for government funding to try and continue this
conversation? Who knows? But it was a fascinating look inside
this era of all of these types of claims, and what the
government has concluded. So again, I'm not here to say, Oh,
you got to believe the government. But I hope you see
enough that you should question a little bit more than how the
how much the general public has been questioning in the last
seven years or so. The OSS have a tip contract with the private
sector organization produced expository papers addressing the
12 scientific areas tasked in the contract statement of work,
the scientific papers were never thoroughly peer reviewed.
Instead, os app slash a tip reviewed a large number of
project Bluebook and private cases, and conducted interviews
of UAP observers and conducted unrelated work on alleged
paranormal activities at the private sector organizations
property in Utah or Skinwalker Ranch. They you can even see
here that they didn't find any UAP casework that was worth
mentioning by all sapper a tip why not? Where the $22 million
go. All saps last a tip was terminated in 2012. Upon the
completion of its deliverables due to DIA and DOD concerns
about the project. After OS app slash a tip was terminated. Its
supporters unsuccessfully attempted to convince DHS to
support a new version of the effort dubbed Kona Blue, there's
Kona Blue again. So obviously, they didn't want to let this
contract go. They tried very, very hard to keep it going at
DHS, but obviously failed. Other history that it deals with
foreign and academic investigator, investigatory
efforts, you see here that it goes into the project manage, or
excuse me project magnet. We which if you look at UFO history
has been around for quite a few years. But obviously this arrow
report goes into a lot of those efforts on foreign soil to look
into the UFO and UAP issue. Jumping to Section Five of the
report, assessment of interviewee claims of US
government involvement and hidden UAP programs, again,
didn't have any evidence in here that they spoke with David
grush, or that David grush gave them any undeniable evidence,
but essentially was talking about those claims that
circulate and route to David grush and the 40 people that he
says that he talked to, you can see here as of September
17 2023, Aro interviewed approximately 30 individuals. So
we can have an idea now of how many people aro talk to they
came up with two different narratives that they kept
hearing over and over with what they labeled as the primary
narrative, and then the secondary narrative. The primary
narrative alleges that the US government and industry partners
are in possession of and are testing off world technology
that has been concealed from congressional oversight, and the
world since approximately 1964. And possibly since 1947. If the
Roswell events are included. The narrative asserts that the UAP
program possesses as many as 12 extraterrestrial spacecraft.
These were the stories that they were hearing and essentially
that narrative that formed former CIA official involvement
and movement of alleged material recovered from a UAP crashed
tonight on the record arrow interview and obtained a signed
statement from the former CIA official who was specifically
named by Arrow interviewees. The former official stated he had no
knowledge of any aspect of this allegation. kind of curious
again, who that CIA official could be. The official signed a
memorandum for the record, attesting to the truthfulness of
his statements essentially the CIA A guy said, what he did put
it on paper and signed it. I have filed a FOIA for that MFR,
I'm not gonna let that go. aerospace companies denied
involvement in recovering extraterrestrial craft. We've
talked about this a little bit in the beginning, Arrow met with
high ranking officials, including executives and chief
technology officers of the named companies, all denied the
existence of these programs, and attested to the truthfulness of
their statements on the record. So all they had to do is put
something on paper and say, No, we didn't do it. And apparently
arrow believed them, which is kind of silly, because what
gives them the power to just say, Oh, I'll sign a memorandum
for the record. And, and that's all it takes. Because as far as
I know, there's probably quite a few witnesses out of the 30 that
did the exact same thing. So why are they discounted yet? The
aerospace industry, whomever they are, because they're not
named? They signed? A memorandum and up well, yeah, none of those
claims are substantiated. It doesn't make sense. But I do
fall back on the thing. I'll say the third time. If, if it was
really going on, I don't think if arrow knocked on the door of
Lockheed and said, Hey, are you are you doing guys involved in
the Extra Terrestrial crash retrieval programs? Or whatever?
And Lockheed goes, Oh, my gosh, we have to tell you guys now you
asked. Okay, here you go. I don't see that happening. I
really don't know. Whether or not a company like Lockheed
would have that in the private sector. Or if it would be kind
of buried deep inside a military or government installation.
That's a topic for another day. But let's just assume that they
are, do you think arrow knocking on the door or picking up the
telephone and setting up a meeting would make it all just
kind of come out into the open? I don't I don't see it, you
know, it's just it's it's kind of laughable the way that that
is conveyed here in the report. And to be honest with you, I
would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that that
meeting, like when they set it up. And they obviously have to
take safeguarded precautions because I'm guessing that they
had classified portions of the conversation. So you set the set
this up in a secure room, and then you sit down and go, Okay,
so do you guys have any extra terrestrial I mean, like what
true or not, it just must have been like a, you know, a crazy
thing to be in the room to witness. Here's another fun
section. This is revisiting the to the stars Academy and the
piece of the alleged UAP stuff. sample of alleged alien
spacecraft is an ordinary terrestrial metal alloy. Arrow
learn through an interviewee that a private sector
organization claimed to have in its possession, material from an
extraterrestrial craft from a crash at an unloaded unknown
location from the 1940s or 1950s. And it goes into the
various claims about it. Arrow and a leading Science Science
Laboratory concluded that the material is a metallic alloy
terrestrial in nature, and possibly a United States Air
Force origin based on its materials, I have filed a FOIA
the US Air Force origin really kind of piqued my interest a
little bit. So I have filed FOIA as as you can imagine, on that
as well, seeking out the communications between aero the
Air Force, what scientific analyses did they do on this, to
try and get it because when it comes to the Army's agreement
through the credo, what's called the credo, and to the stars
Academy, that will likely be exempt. Because it may be
proprietary information, exempted under B four, which is
very frustrating, I've run into that already with researching
the Krita. But regardless, that may be a roadblock. But if aro
obtains the piece and does their own independent investigation, I
do not believe that should be exempt. And I will find it if
they try it. So it's no longer because it was obtained with
permission. It is no longer proprietary, because nobody
funded it from the corporate side, the US government did. So
whether or not I will get it or not that will, we'll see. But my
whole point being is that I don't believe they have any
legal ground to say, Oh, we were going to exempt this for
proprietary reasons or corporate secrets or whatever. I believe
that that should be open. So I have filed for all of that. But
interesting to note that got that material, tested it and
came up with nothing. Here's that section that I talked about
where they revisit Kona Blue and give a little bit more detail
and it was pretty interesting because I do kind of sense that
there will be more information coming out on this. So I'll do a
future video. But just to give you guys a brief overview Kona
Blue was brought to Arrow's attention by interviewees who
claim him that it was a sensitive DHS compartment to
cover up the retrieval and exploitation of quote, non human
biologics, Kona Blue traces its origins to the DEA managed OS
app slash a tip program
that quote non human biologics. There's only one guy that really
spearheaded the use of biologics in the last year or so. And that
would be David grush. Is this connected to the claims that he
believes and that he's conveyed to Congress? Did someone go to
David grush and connect this Kona Blue program and claim that
it was a sensitive di d h s compartment to cover up the
retrieval and exploitation of non human biologics? Because if
that part is true, it connects back to you guessed it, the same
small core group of people that have made grandiose claims for
years and even decades about UFOs, UAP and aliens. They
always seem to be connected to these types of stories. So the
fact that that is in quotes non human biologics, and that is
something that we've heard from from David grush. We can start
to piece together potentially, who his list of 40 is, and that
would probably include Dr. Hal put off and those that were
surrounding the OSS app slash a tip program. They turned around
and fed David grush. The nonhuman biologics quote claim
that the Kona Blue program was covering that up. Obviously, the
Kona Blue program didn't exist on that level to cover it up. It
never was stood up. But if that's what he was hearing, in
fairness to David grush, he probably heard it from people he
thought were legitimate. That speculation there, but I found
it incredibly intriguing that the nonhuman biologics was in
quote, in quotes as connected to Kona Blue and the DHS extension
of, or at least a proposed extension of aos app slash a
tip. When dia cancelled this program, and supporters proposed
to DHS that they create and fund a new version of OS app slash a
tip under a special access program. This proposal codenamed
Coda blue, would restart UAP investigations paranormal
research including alleged human consciousness anomalies that's
in quotes, and reverse engineer any recovered offworld
spacecraft that they hoped to acquire. This proposal gained
some initial traction at DHS, DHS to the point where a
prospective Special Access Program or P SAP was officially
requested to stand up this program, but it was eventually
rejected by DHS leadership for lacking merit. So obviously, it
got traction at DHS that really piques the interest of me simply
because you're looking at a paper trail there. Now, it's no
longer just a proposal or a one page one off, but rather a paper
trail on who was interested in this, why would they be
interested in it? Why would DHS want to look into human
consciousness anomalies, and go from there, so those paper
trails are golden. I love stuff like that live for stuff like
that. It is critical to note that no extraterrestrial craft
or bodies were ever collected. This meat material was only
assumed to exist by Kona Blue advocates, and it's anticipated
contract performers. This was the same assumption made by
those same individuals involved with the OS app slash a tip
program. That obviously ties right back to the same core
group of people. Those names that we've heard quite a bit
about, and even from in the last seven, eight years, Robert
Bigelow, Dr. Howell put off Dr. Colum Kelleher, all the people
that were involved in that original offset program. Fast
forward to the Kona Blue proposal. That is what the
government is seeing all routes to those people get absolutely
no evidence exists, according to this report. So I'll revisit my
statement one more time. It's time for the quote
whistleblowers to become whistleblowers without quotes,
if Dr. Hal put off truly has the key to unlocking the cosmos
here, and that he was involved, it's time to come out with it.
If any of the people that David grush talk to you all the list
of 40 and I'm completely wrong that Dr. Hal put off his on that
that list. That's fine. We know Dr. Eric Davis is by his own
admission, he's posted that on Facebook that he's one of those
people that fed David grush information. Then let David or
excuse me, let Eric Davis come out and bring that information
with him. Time to become a whistleblower. Stop at the
Facebook posts. Stop at these private organization lectures
where you hint Drop breadcrumbs. Stop teasing a book for years on
end. If there is something there, and people are holding
the keys to unlocking this for us all, who are the gatekeepers?
The government. Maybe this report truly did convey the
roadblock all the way up to the roadblock that they met. And
they didn't know that they were at a roadblock. And the doctor
how put off the doctor Eric Davis says that Luis Elizondo
the David brushes, the list of 40 witnesses, who then becomes
the true gatekeepers of the secrets, the US government? No,
because I'm sorry, I don't believe arrow would have the
access. There I said it, I don't believe that they would be able
to get a Lockheed Martin to just come clean and go, Okay, you
guys are asking, so we'll tell you, it ain't gonna happen. So
the people that are dropping the breadcrumbs, if they really do
have the secrets, those are the gatekeepers. And you don't need
to take my word for that. Just look at the definition, they are
holding the secrets, if people want to fall back that they have
security clearances, and this that and the other thing, fine.
But I will still give my opinion and say that there is no way
that the government will cart them off. If they change
humanity, as we know it and prove that there are non human
biologics floating around in our atmosphere, flying
extraterrestrial technology, and being reverse engineered in the
private sector. Not going to happen, I just don't see it. So
now's the time, drop the quotes around whistleblower, and become
a whistleblower. And bring the evidence, because after all
these decades of people making these claims, if they don't have
it, then it's time to just stop. Okay, it's time to just go away.
If you really have it, but you don't want to show it, then it's
time to go away, if you really have it, but you fear reprisal.
If you're not going to show it, then just go away. Because this
report stems from the same core group of people making these
claims. And this is where we ended up. So no congressional
legislation is going to change that. No government report is
going to change that. No whistleblower without backing up
their claims is going to change that what do you need evidence.
And that's what they have to do to come out at this point. I
said it months ago, on social media years ago, maybe even now,
it's time to put up or shut up. And that's it. Because there is
something to this topic that warrants further scientific
investigation, stop ruining the idea and concept that more
scientists will want to investigate this by just
conveying the stories that lack evidence, because any real
scientist, once you get their attention, is going to look our
direction, right to the conversation that we're all
having. They're going to look at those stories and realize their
stories. What is being put in the spotlight above all else are
stories that lack evidence. So let's prove it. Or get out of
the way. And let the scientists and those that that really can
do a true scientific endeavor, move to the forefront of this
and take it to the next level. To get the data they need to
solve the mystery once and for all, or at least take a step.
Because those types of lectures, the podcast, the YouTube thing,
things, none of that pushes this forward. It only pushes it
forward to the to the believers that are already pushed forward
on their own. They don't need to be pushed anymore, but they feel
like they're more validated. That's the only thing that comes
out of this when you actually lack evidence, but still convey
your stories and write your books, do your podcast and do
your YouTube videos. That's the only thing that happens here.
Because Congress is losing interest. I'm sorry, they just
are there's a dwindling number of people that are talking about
this legislation isn't passing for a reason. Probably because
it's not worded correctly. None of that stuff is happening the
way that it should. So it's time for the evidence or just get out
of the way. There's enough evidence to support that
scientists should be involved that I believe wholeheartedly,
but if you highlight the stories, they don't care,
they're just going to make fun of it. I think it actually
started raining here. Hopefully I don't lose power as I'm
recording this Arrow.
Arrow has determined that modern allegations that the US
government is hiding offworld technology and beings largely
originate from the same group of individuals who have tied to the
canceled OS happy to program and a private sector organizations
paranormal research efforts. They are punching this over and
over and over. And I believe there's a reason for that. You
can see here in the next highlighted passage, I won't
read it all because it gets really kind of confusing with
all the different numbers and so on. I told you they were no
names, but they rather gave the interviewees numbers. And they
labeled the people that they they talk to, you can kind of
see like the breakdown of who they were. You see a couple of
them have repeatedly voiced these claims and various public
and private venues, and they have petitioned Congress in
various capacities on UAP issues, they've not provided any
empirical evidence of their claims to arrow that could
absolutely very much be true. And all you have to do is look
at some of the names I've rattled off some of the names I
haven't rattled off, and look at the contributions that they have
really cool stories, but they don't back it up. And arrow is
telling you the exact same thing. So dismiss arrow, and I'm
telling you the exact same thing. Dismiss me look what the
government came came with. Pick one, right, dismiss us both look
what other people are saying, Look at what smart scientists
are saying that are outside of the UFO arena that have taken
the time to look in what do they say stories, hearsay, you see a
lot of that over and over and over what is lacking evidence,
this breaks down all the different types of people that
they looked at. I also want to point out that they give a lot
of those different program names and, and projects that they want
to attribute to UAP. And when I say they the US government. And
you can see some of the stuff going back to the 1940s with the
Manhattan Project, that they're trying to connect the excessive
secrecy behind some of these programs. And some of these
designs like what you see on your screen now to UAP. In the
encounters that we've seen. Now, no, they're not trying to claim
it's 100%. But they are trying to claim there's a big
connection. Well, like I pointed out earlier, and I'll point out
again, there is no evidence to connect some of these bigger
cases that we've talked about, that are documented in
government files to some of these projects. They've tried
before. They failed before. They're trying it again, why
they think they'll succeed this time. I have no idea. But that's
what they're trying to do, silly. But that's what it is.
Now jumped down to section nine that conclusion to date, Arrow
has not discovered any empirical evidence at any sighting of a
UAP represented offworld technology or the existence of a
classified program that had not been properly reported to
Congress. Look, the first part of that. Okay, we keep hearing
that over and over the second part of that, would arrow have
access to those programs that have not been reported to
Congress? My guess would be no. So that to me is just kind of
like what it is what it is, I just kind of put that on the
backburner. I don't really look at it much. But that being said,
that was their conclusion, right? All summed up in these
two paragraphs here. And the Volume Two is on the way,
hopefully, later this year. So look, as I just kind of went
over, there are things in this report that absolutely are bunk.
They're silly. I think the government is putting their foot
in their mouth in a couple of these areas, some of which I've
gone over. You look at the history, what they've talked
about, I dealt with Roswell, a little bit, Project Bluebook,
you look at all the silly explanations, which by the way,
going back to the Roswell thing, I didn't point this out earlier,
they did not mention in this report that a lot of the
documentation was destroyed about Roswell, the GAO came out
with that in their report, yet arrow conveniently leaves it out
of this report, just simply saying, Oh, it's project Mogol,
balloons and so on. So again, doesn't really equate to alien
when you look at that, but it just shows you how silly it is,
when you look at the evidence or the lack thereof. And then you
see what the claims the government is trying to make.
They don't really match up at all. But they go through a lot.
And I was very pleasantly surprised when I saw that.
Because they did go into that that history. And it's
important, whether you're not you believe it's a real
investigation, or you believe the findings of blue book and
all those programs. That's irrelevant. It's important
history to understanding the topic, and understanding how we
got here today. But what I was also surprised, but not
pleasantly surprised about was what they ignored. And it was
the fact that and this goes back to what I've said for years,
when you spotlight the stories, and you spotlight the stuff that
lacks evidence, when you put that in front of somebody who
finally is taking the opportunity to look at it, and
you kind of essentially put all that out front, and they look at
it and there's absolutely nothing to support it. What
happens, you get a report, like what we just went over stuff
that dismisses the grandiose claims, which in some cases is
likely very warranted. But what about the stuff that they do
have the evidence that the government has come clean about,
although sometimes you have to fight for it through FOIA and,
and appeals and lawsuits and litigation. But when that
evidence comes out What happens to that, and in this report,
they didn't deal with it. One example would be the fact that
it was about a decade where the US Air Force that one military
branch that is surprisingly, mum and has been throughout this
whole conversation, playing very little role in the public part
of this conversation when it comes to UAP. had on the books
through the late 90s, early 2000s, all the way to the late
2000s a regulation to report and document unidentified flying
objects that their military pilots were encountering. I have
documented proof that when I went to the one receiving end,
which was NORAD for these service reports, they said,
Well, we were not subject to FOIA, but they did look under a
NORAD regulation where they try and mimic and honor the spirit
of the FOIA that they found absolutely nothing, no service
reports on UFOs. And the reason why NORAD was not subject to
FOIA was because they're under Canadian control as well. So US
law didn't apply. Well, to quickly summarize the end of the
story, the Canadian government sent me hundreds of service
reports that went through NORAD on unidentified flying objects.
My whole point, the US Air Force, and their history of post
project Bluebook of investigating UFOs was not only
covered up, but on top of that, proven by the Canadian
government. Aero doesn't deal with those types of things at
all. Why are military branches and government agencies lying
about their UFO and UAP information? And why have they
lied for decades, if there's absolutely nothing to any of
these claims? That doesn't make sense. They also don't talk
about the intelligence files because when you dig, even post
project Bluebook into the 70s and beyond, they talk about UAP
material being carried hand carried to somebody's office
within the CIA, that there was some type of UFO something that
was connected to a case that piqued the interest of the CIA
internally. This document actually goes on to talk about
an informal effort to essentially keep tabs on the UAP
conversation. This was years after the US government
completed their investigation. And they maintained interest the
CIA was still actively involved. The National Security Agency has
hundreds of communications dealing with UFOs that blow well
past the project Bluebook era and go through the 70s, the 80s
and the 90s, most of which are classified top secret to this
day, when I tried to get these further declassified and get
these redacted redactions lifted. There are hundreds of
these pages, the NSA lost each and every one, at least so they
claim. So these redactions will stick forever. Doesn't matter
what congressional legislation is passed. It doesn't matter
what UAP Disclosure Act is, is is created. It doesn't matter.
According to the National Security Agency. It's all gone.
Anyway, the originals were destroyed. And these redacted
with black and white out are the only things that remain. What is
so secretive about the intelligence on UFOs that is
being collected around the world sources and
methods Absolutely. redact that, is that all of this likely not?
So what is it that they're hiding, but the NSA isn't alone?
You look at the Defense Intelligence Agency, this is
only to have numerous pages that are found within the CIA's files
of heavily classified UAP and UFO related material. I received
these in the late 90s. And there are hundreds of them. I years
ago, did the exact same thing with the DIA that I did, the NSA
requested what are called Mandatory declassification
reviews, to try and get all of these redactions lifted. By the
way, they didn't even use black ink, they use a razor blade to
cut out these pages and photocopied pages with holes in
them because they didn't want to waste the ink. When I finished
the cases, and the MDRs got to the end, you know what the DIA
said they lost each and every one of their intelligence papers
on UFOs. So these documents here that are keeping tabs on UFO
related information and even here, a UFO research
organization in China. They're all gone. They're all lost to
history, no congressional legislation, no UAP Disclosure
Act are going to bring these back from the shredders, at
least are so they claim. Well, they make the government
actually come clean and say yeah, we rely on for decades and
we actually do have all of these. Well, we can only hope,
but probably not. The report also didn't talk about the
excessive secrecy that remains to this day. And if you ask me
it's a lot worse today than it was decades ago. In fact, it's a
lot worse than it was just 10 years ago. This is the security
classification guide likely has been revised by now I've got
multiple cases for more recent versions. But regardless, I
expect something very similar to this blacked out Top Secret, Top
to bottom. They do not want you to know why they are keeping UAP
and UFO information secret. This guide actually defines the
secrecy. This is what is used by our US government on UAP
information to say if UAP information is classified, and
today, everything is where does it stem from this guide. But the
UAP report doesn't talk about any of that excessive secrecy.
In my opinion, not only is this secrecy excessive, on top of
that they are employing tactics, including a law enforcement
exemption to take arrows files and keep them secret. So if
they're not classified, or if I by some stroke of luck, can
fight what's called a b1 exemption classified because
it's secret or, or top secret, if I'm lucky enough to try and
fight that there's already a second layer that they've put on
that stems from exemption B seven, or a law enforcement
investigation. I have appealed those on numerous occasions,
I've lost each and every one. I always like to highlight the
successes when it comes to appeals. But sometimes you have
to highlight the failures. Why doesn't the report the one that
we just got this year, talk about this excessive secrecy?
It's not all sources and methods. It's not all classified
platform sensor technology. And how do we know that? Easy. When
a Russian jet decides to spray gas over one of our MQ nine
Reaper drones, we have a video circulating our media like that.
They review it, they declassify it, we see it in full, it's
crystal clear. It's beautiful footage. And you see the Russian
jet go and spray fuel. What's my point? There is something about
UAP information that they don't want you to see. They hide
behind the sources and methods explain explanation and
exemption. They hide behind the well we can't tell you how our
classified platforms work. They hide behind that. But what they
don't want you to realize is putting the pieces together of
this puzzle that they'll show you that Russian jet spraying a
highly classified platform like the MQ nine, but they won't show
you anything about UAP. Why not? What's the difference? There is
no difference, or at least there shouldn't be if we are to
believe what they're trying to sell. In this report. They also
don't talk about our spy satellites, how the fact that
the National Reconnaissance Office has a highly classified
platform called sentient, which sees tic tac shaped objects very
much like the 2004 incident, but all the way into the last couple
of years. What are they seeing what software or what ability
within the sentient system allows them to see and detect
these tic tac shaped objects? This was a highly classified top
secret briefing on one of those observations. The report doesn't
mention anything like this, at least not the public one. They
just want to pass off that it's not extraterrestrial, and it's
not anything they can't explain if they have the proper data.
They clearly have the proper data. The data is there, seeing
these tic tac shaped objects, and yet, they don't deal with
that in the report, maybe volume two. They also don't deal with
the highly classified nature of this report and topic. So the
report is unclassified. They give it to the public, but they
don't deal with the real secrecy behind UAP. This is a
declassified also top secret memo on unidentified aerial
phenomenon Now they call it unidentified anomalous
phenomena. You can see here it's only declassified because they
redacted almost every single word. That's the secrecy that
this is on. That's the level that all of this is on. Why if
all of this is easily dismissed, and really does stem back to a
core group of people that are kind of creating these
cockamamie conspiracy theories, fine. I can understand that in
parts of the conversation, but the report conveniently left out
the real stuff. The real information the real question
marks that people like me have. Sure we can argue all day long
about gimbal FLIR glare speed of the go fast whether or not Luis
Elizondo really headed a tip whether or not David grush has
first hand and knowledge are not whatever we can argue until our
face turns blue. The bottom line with those arguments is we don't
know the answer at the end of the day. But the report doesn't
want you to look at this and ask about this. They just want to
deal with that greatest trick of a magician. Look over here. So
you don't see what's going on over here. And that is exactly
what this report has done. That is exactly what they want you to
believe. There's nothing here. There's nothing to it, stop
asking questions, and stop looking for answers. We've
explained it. We did it through the 1960s. The the project
Bluebook era we solved it. No, they didn't. evidence showed
otherwise. Why would they have to change their story on
Roswell, so many different times wire dates not matching up?
Well, they blame all the witnesses. None of that makes
sense. So even though there's a lot you can prove with this
report, and to give the government credit, they did a
lot of homework on it. They conveniently left out the
information that you don't hear as much about, it's not as sexy
as somebody going up to Congress under oath saying, Well, I heard
stories about non human biologics. That's sexy. That's
headlines, right? That's what you get in the spotlight. But is
that really what we need? Until we see the proof of that non
human biologic, let's look and ask the important questions on
stuff we can prove and fall back on with actual evidence. That
doesn't mean it just has to stay with FOIA. FOIA is not
everything. A lot of my haters always say, John thinks FOIA is
everything. No, it's not. It's just what I love more than
somebody's story. And I stand by that, but it's not everything.
And no one can ever cite where I've said it. But it's a great
starting point. And I think that when the government agencies
like the CIA, the DIA, the NSA, the Pentagon itself, all has
pieces of the puzzle that when put together, negate this
report, it's worth asking about, and it's worth paying attention
to less about the stories more about the evidence. That's what
I'm all about. Listen, I hope you learned at least one thing
throughout this presentation. Obviously, as I said up front,
it is not everything. There's a lot in this report, I urge you
don't just judge it on what I say or, or what other
researchers say or media outlets or bloggers or whomever. Don't
read it for yourself. Take in what works for you when it comes
to information that you want to stick with or dismiss, whether
that means you believe the government or not whether that
means that supports Luis Elizondo or not, whether it
supports David grush or not, whether it supports the whole
offset movement or not, doesn't matter. Read it,
I really urge you, I'm a big advocate for people having
access to this information. That's why I run the black
vault. That's why in the links below, here on YouTube, or if
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