John Greenewald: Hey everybody, John Greenewald, here with the
black vault.com decided to do what I believe anyway will be a
short segment for you all exploring some documents on what
I'll call UFO material. The question mark is what is the
definition of material. Now I have made reference to one of
these documents in the past. And some people were questioning
whether or not material meant material in the form of just
somebody said something that they saw, wrote it down. And
that's a UFO document, which is material or physical UFO
material. Well, I'm gonna go over a couple of documents, and
I've got something new for you guys on one of these, which yet
again, adds kind of this reinforcement that we're dealing
with something that is so secretive, in my opinion, the
government for decades, just with me, well before December of
2017, for decades have pulled out everything that they can
imagine, to try and stop you and AI from accessing UFO
information. This is yet another example. But let's go ahead and
bring up some visuals you guys know, I love that. So the CIA
and UFO material, this is just honing in on a couple of
different documents. Obviously, there's much more on this
channel, you'll find one other video that I can recall, where I
go into a UFO case from the CIA files, and it depicting material
physical material and wreckage that they had received. Some
believe that it is an earth based technology, I actually
lean towards that on on that particular document. But again,
just very cool, where you see their investigative methods that
they are getting material that there's stuff out there. And I
also did a big breakdown on the CIA UFO material where I touch
on some other stuff. But here I'm again zoning in on a couple
documents. And let me first say these have been around for a
while they may seem familiar to you. But it's an important
connection in my view that I think that we should discuss.
But on top of that, again, I've got kind of an update for you,
when it comes to these records. The first document is a two
pager, this was from 1976. Now a very quick reminder that this is
about seven years after the US government, US military shut
down their UFO investigative effort known as Project
Bluebook. Before that, there was project sign and project Reg,
but everybody knows, Project Bluebook ended in 1969. And
essentially, they wipe their hands clean on the topic and
they said, Hey, we don't care about UFOs, you want to go
report them, go ahead, go to the UFO Reporting Center go to move
on, go to the private sector call the police. They even had
local law enforcement in on the list of who to call. But don't
call us we don't care. And well, prior to 2017. Since 1996, I
have been filing FOIA is and that stance of the military
until it changed in the last five years or so. That stance of
we don't look at UFOs was my entire focal point of research.
And it was amazing to see that every agency contradicted that
statement. These documents are kind of the prime example of why
it contradicted it, as you'll see in a moment. So again, this
was from April 1976. Let me get my laser pointer here. So I can
point. So you'll see that this this particular document, we
don't know the the classification level of it. They
redacted the entire thing. This is from the what's called the
DCD or the domestics con the domestic context division
essentially it's our sources in the field here in America. So I
think that that's kind of the easy nutshell way to, to to
explain it. So we don't know who it was sent to this particular
document. It was from the domestic contacts division and
the subject was UFO research. We see a heck of a lot of black out
here we have no idea that's obviously a case number. But we
don't know the UFO research what's what's going on here.
It's also referencing to other documents also redacted. They
don't want you to know. And let me read this to you per the
request and reference be we attempted to obtain analytical
guidance on the UFO redacted sub yet, we contacted the Assistant
Deputy Director for Science and Technology or a DD s and t. Dr.
redacted to see if he knew of any official UFO program and
also to attempt to answer some of the questions posed by
redacted, Doctor redacted exhibited interest in.
We don't know what he exhibited interest in because it's
redacted, which was hand carried to his office. I'm gonna stop
there real quick. This is, this is the document that I've
profiled in the past. And the question mark is what was hand
carried to his office, you generally aren't going to use
that expression, if you're taking a post it note or a piece
of paper or, or whatever, you know, I mean, in my opinion,
we're talking about something physically hand carried to the
office. Let me go back to reading after a short
examination of its contents. Kind of more indication. It's
not just a paper beach piece of paper. Dr. redacted, advised us
that he would personally look into the matter and get back to
us. As we discussed in reference, a doctor redacted us
since contacted us and relayed the following information. It
would appear to be best if you advised, redacted that he
should. And we have no idea. It's all redacted. If you're
listening to the audio version, it's about a full line. We don't
we don't know what what that explanation was. What should he
do? What was that advisement that the CIA was was saying
about something that was examined on this UFO case within
CIA headquarters. The second page, it does not seem that the
government has any formal program in progress for the
identification slash solution of the UFO phenomena. Dr. redacted
feels that the efforts of independent researchers and then
another line of redacted material maybe names maybe
organizations are vital for further progress in this area.
At the present time, there are offices and personnel within the
agency who are monitoring the UFO phenomena. But again, this
is not currently on an official basis. Sure. Sounds familiar
done. Dr. redacted feels that the best approach would be to
keep in touch with and in fact develop reporting channels in
this area to keep the agency slash community informed of any
new developments. In particular, any information which might
indicate a threat potential would be of interest and would
specific and as would specific indications of foreign
developments or applications of UFO related research. Dr.
redacted has advised us that he would evaluate any additional
information we might receive as well as disseminate significant
developments through appropriate channels, should it be
warranted. We wish to stress again, that there does not now
appear to be any special program on UFOs within the intelligence
community, and this should be relayed to redacted. So very
cool stuff. Because it really is reminiscent to the stories that
we hear today. Nothing official there keeping an eye on it,
anything threat potential kind of goes through some channels,
you know, and that you go back to the A tip stories that we
that we keep hearing. And this controversy. I mean, this is
kind of how I envision I'm where that controversy is there.
Nothing was official. So according to the Pentagon,
they're like, yeah, so and so didn't do anything, and we
didn't look at UFOs. Meanwhile, other people may have thought,
hey, there's something to this. We got to make sure we monitor
it, even though the government has done their investigation.
And they, they ended it eight years or so prior 70 years ago
prior to this document that I'm going over. We still need to
monitor it for potential threats. And again, fast forward
decades. It's like the same exact story. So all of these
redactions, I went after the CIA to take those redactions off,
tried to get them lifted. And in January of this year, I got a
response. It's called a mandatory declassification
review. I talked about it all the time. But in short, it
you're essentially mandating an agency to take a document
they've released before with their redactions, go back to the
original, and then see what's not classified anymore, because
what was classified five or 10 or 20 years ago, is sometimes
not classified in 2022. So I filed it in 2019. It took until
January of 2002. To tell me, we conducted a thorough and
diligent search in an effort to locate a full text version of
the document, but were unsuccessful in English, they
lost it. They have no idea where it is. So they redacted it save
that one took the original one oops, threw it into the shredder
and away it goes. So when somebody liked me He comes along
and tries to get all of that redaction lifted, or at least
some of it, it's gone. pretty frustrating, because as you can
tell, there's something that was physically hand carried to an
office of somebody important within the CIA, he sees it
important to
look over examine, and then has advice that we can't see. So it
would have been very beneficial here, however, many decades
later, for the CIA to go back and re unredacted that, and yet,
they can't do it. Let me read to you one more document. This
one's a little bit harder to read. I'm gonna do my best. I
just learned this new tool. I'm going to try this here. See if I
can. Cool. So this is another document that I got from the
CIA, again, something that has been around for quite some time.
In fact, you can see it was approved for release back in
1978, likely in this very, very state that you see. Same deal.
It's from that domestic context division. And let me read it to
you Mr. redacted at a recent meeting to evaluate some
material from redacted. You mentioned a personal interest in
the UFO phenomena. As you may recall, I mentioned my own
interest in the subject as well as the fact that DCD had been
receiving UFO related material from many of our s&t or science
and technology sources, who are presently conducting related
research. These scientists includes some who had been
associated with the agency for years, and whose credentials
removed them from the quote, not unquote, variety. The attached
material came to my attention through these sources, and it
appears to have some legitimate. I'm going to stop here. It's
either FYI, or PII, I haven't been able to figure it out. Both
acronyms would fit PII, public intelligence, FYI, is foreign
intelligence. I'll let you guys decide it's pretty hard to read.
Because you can see that little spot there that's removed is
that a PII isn't enough, who knows? It appears to have some
legitimate or community interest potential, excuse me, the
redacted work being carried out by doctor and then a couple of
redacted lines. So seems to me more than a name should, in the
view of our s&t sources, be evaluated by the agency or
community, in view of the expertise associated with your
office as well as your interest in the subject. I felt you might
like to see the material, see the material, document, page,
post it note, or something else. bracketed at the bottom. If you
need additional information, or if you feel there is some
potential, I will be glad to discuss this with you. If not,
please feel free to destroy the material. How's that for
frustrating destroy it? So I'm not here to tell you that
material is referencing UFO wreckage of some kind. But for
me the way that this is wording worded and how this now second
document from 1976, what I didn't tell you was it was from
July, so only a couple of months after the document that I just
read to you, it's likely all connected, likely. Of course,
there's room for a little bit of being wrong there just because
there's so many variables here that are redacted. But it really
kind of seems like this is all connected. And it really seems
to me like internally at the CIA, not not variety, whatever
that meant. People from the outside, but rather inside,
they're watching this, it is something that is of interest.
And it seems to me that there is material to go along with this
interest, and that probably caused the interest. So I
decided, hey, let's file a mandatory declassification
review on this one. What do you think happened? I filed it in
January of 2020. And then in August, just about four weeks
ago, at the end of August. Guess what happened? I couldn't find
it. Gone. The original document was redacted and they save that
copy. But then the original document oops, we lost it went
into the shredder went into the burner the burn bag it was
destroyed. Who knows, but it's just gone. We did not locate any
records responsive to your request doesn't exist. So here
is yet another example of potentially very interesting UFO
related content. Something that was there likely a physical
object that was hand carried to an office Fast forward a couple
of months they revisit it, there's more quote unquote,
material. Okay, that could arguably be more documents and
so on. And yet that is lost as well. Now I can tell you as
somebody who's filed numerous mandatory declassification
reviews,
lot of those that haven't done that may think, Well, look,
John, this is more than 40 plus years ago, the CIA likely
doesn't have that material. I can tell you, I have had World
War Two era related documents undergo a mandatory
declassification review. So age really has nothing to do with
it. And in my opinion, should not be the fallback excuse. It
seems to me that when it comes to the UFO related material, and
when it comes to the effort to get it further declassified,
that they are piling on the instances of lost material. But
then when it comes to some other non UFO related material,
they're like, oh, this document from 1941, yep, no problem. Give
us six months, we'll review it, I'm paraphrasing there, but they
can find it. Or non UFO related documents lost. Absolutely. I've
got tons of examples of that. So it does happen. It's not unique
to the UFO niche of all of this, but I will say it seems heavy. I
will say that do I have a stat for you know, I'm just, I will
admit that I am just kind of going off of a gut feeling. I
don't have a way to really sit down and go through the last 26
years of filing more than 10,000 FOIA requests and numerous MDRs
to give you a percentage, but I will say it feels heavy, because
the UFO topic has for decades, been incredibly difficult to
tackle. But then on top of that, when you see these rare gems in
a pile of 1000s of already very interesting pages on UFOs, which
mind you shouldn't exist, if you listen to the whole, hey, we
don't care about UFOs after 1969. So you have 1000s of pages
from numerous agencies that exist. And then through those
very interesting pages, you see gems like this, where they're
talking about material, and and and obviously something that's
much more than just a story. And it's all gone. numerous requests
over the course of years, numerous documents, gone, lost,
who knows, poof, Shredder. And it's incredibly frustrating, but
incredibly telling, because you've seen other videos on this
channel here on YouTube on the black vaults channel that talk
about the secrecy the ever clamping down of secrecy on
today's UAP conversation. But what a lot of people are
forgetting is the conversation from decades ago, and it's just
gone. And that that is something that I will not let go, I'll
keep highlighting it for you. I have numerous other requests
that are still open, we'll see which ones they can find and
which ones they can't. There are other documents that I've also
written about. That are mysteriously missing. So we'll
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