1 00:00:04,980 --> 00:00:09,300 John Greenewald: In December of 2017, the gimbal UFO video was 2 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:14,220 published by The New York Times. Since then, it has captivated 3 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:18,480 believers and has become a target by the debunkers. Yet 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,990 despite the drastic difference in regards to interpretations by 5 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:27,030 both sides, one fact remains, the video is downright 6 00:00:27,030 --> 00:00:32,370 intriguing. Now, new documents released to the black vault may 7 00:00:32,370 --> 00:00:36,450 reveal that the weapon system officer or WIZO, who encountered 8 00:00:36,450 --> 00:00:41,220 the craft appeared before Senate staffers in 2019. to brief them 9 00:00:41,250 --> 00:00:45,090 on the event. The black vault sought records over the course 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,380 of three years, and now new documents have been released. 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,450 Stay tuned, you're about to journey inside the black vault. 12 00:01:19,140 --> 00:01:21,780 That's right, everybody. As always, thank you so much for 13 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:25,410 tuning in and taking this journey inside the black vault 14 00:01:25,410 --> 00:01:28,560 with me. I'm your host, John Greenwald, Jr, founder and 15 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,520 creator of the black vault calm. And although I had a little bit 16 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,340 of a different plan for recording today, right when I 17 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:38,220 was about to start that something popped into my inbox, 18 00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:41,790 and I had to shift gears. And here's why. This actually 19 00:01:41,790 --> 00:01:47,130 continues a story that I first wrote last year, however, the 20 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,020 research has now spanned since about 2019, I believe it was 21 00:01:52,260 --> 00:01:55,470 when I first found reference to it. Now, let me go ahead and 22 00:01:55,470 --> 00:01:57,750 kind of catch you guys up here. Before I get to the new 23 00:01:57,750 --> 00:02:01,950 documents. Just as a refresher, if you didn't see this story, I 24 00:02:01,950 --> 00:02:07,740 had originally published it November 16 2021. And hopefully 25 00:02:07,740 --> 00:02:09,690 you can see it on your screen there. If you're watching on the 26 00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:12,210 video version, or if you're listening to the audio, I'm just 27 00:02:12,210 --> 00:02:14,700 going to read a few things as I go through here. But 28 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:18,750 essentially, at that time, when I wrote this last year, I had 29 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:21,990 already been chasing these documents for about two years. 30 00:02:22,260 --> 00:02:25,530 And you can see here I did a video on it. You're more than 31 00:02:25,530 --> 00:02:29,460 welcome to watch that. I'll link it in the show notes below. But 32 00:02:29,460 --> 00:02:32,400 here is kind of the the paper trail that leads up to the 33 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,880 discovery today. And I really don't have all the answers, but 34 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:41,160 you may be interested in what I believe was just released. But 35 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,730 first, like I said, the background here in June of 2019, 36 00:02:44,940 --> 00:02:47,730 I was going through all sorts of documents, the internal 37 00:02:47,730 --> 00:02:52,110 communications to me are key when trying to understand what 38 00:02:52,110 --> 00:02:56,370 is really going on. Sure, summary reports and project 39 00:02:56,370 --> 00:02:59,400 documents and stuff like that. Yeah, those are all interesting, 40 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,580 but the behind the scenes banter, when you can get it 41 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:09,480 through FOIA is sometimes gold. And as you can see here, this is 42 00:03:09,540 --> 00:03:14,280 part of that gold. Now in that 2019 request, this particular 43 00:03:14,430 --> 00:03:19,290 email stuck out. And this was written by somebody inside the 44 00:03:19,290 --> 00:03:24,390 Navy. And it was about a inquiry from Politico. So obviously 45 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:28,230 during the time that they were doing a UAP story. And 46 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:31,890 internally, you can see here team, please see the below. Can 47 00:03:31,890 --> 00:03:35,850 you please check into it. I noticed on a previous o l a 48 00:03:35,850 --> 00:03:41,550 weekly, there was a brief to some staffers on from a similar 49 00:03:41,550 --> 00:03:45,660 sounding program office. So yes, that that error was in there 50 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:49,080 grammatically with the extra word. Oh, LA is Office of 51 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,800 Legislative Affairs. So obviously that was the office 52 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,060 within the Navy that was coordinating with Senate 53 00:03:57,060 --> 00:04:02,280 staffers congressional staffers of some kind for a UAP briefing. 54 00:04:03,060 --> 00:04:06,240 So I had filed another request. In this article, I go through 55 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,540 all the case numbers for anybody who wants to fact check, but had 56 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:13,620 filed another case then kind of branching out from that original 57 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:17,130 find. So I often you've heard this on this channel before, but 58 00:04:17,130 --> 00:04:21,030 this is why, like in the FOIA process to a tree, and you start 59 00:04:21,030 --> 00:04:23,190 with your trunk, and it just branches off and everything 60 00:04:23,190 --> 00:04:26,850 else. This is a prime example of just that, where the trunk was 61 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:30,450 those original documents branched off into finding a 62 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:33,240 little bit more information about the briefing, which is 63 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,930 where at the time, I thought we were on the verge of exposing a 64 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:41,880 new UAP encounter. Not sure if we've debunked that possibility 65 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,860 yet, but bear with me. So that second FOIA case revealed this 66 00:04:47,490 --> 00:04:51,900 anomalous aerial vehicle encounter brief to S A S. CpSm. 67 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:56,040 CSMs are professional staff members of the Senate Armed 68 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,750 Services Committee that's sa SC ON 16 January worry of an 69 00:05:00,750 --> 00:05:07,830 unknown date in your should say, an F 18 pilot from VFA 103 met 70 00:05:07,830 --> 00:05:12,750 with sa SC PSM and then a bunch of blacked out redacted here 71 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:16,500 likely indicating the names. Senate Armed Services Committee, 72 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,750 professional staff members have continuing interest in 73 00:05:18,750 --> 00:05:22,260 unidentified aerial aerial vehicle intercepts that have 74 00:05:22,260 --> 00:05:26,340 occurred in the working airspace off the US coast. And, again, a 75 00:05:26,340 --> 00:05:30,630 redaction so likely a name gave a detailed brief on his personal 76 00:05:30,660 --> 00:05:34,290 encounter. That was it out of that particular FOIA release a 77 00:05:34,530 --> 00:05:35,880 little bit more detail. 78 00:05:36,209 --> 00:05:40,589 But what was indicated here was that it was potentially a brand 79 00:05:40,589 --> 00:05:46,679 new UAP encounter for a couple different reasons. VFA 103 That 80 00:05:46,679 --> 00:05:50,969 is stationed at NAS Oceana, which is off, which is in 81 00:05:50,969 --> 00:05:53,939 Virginia, and they primarily operate off the coast of 82 00:05:53,939 --> 00:05:57,989 Virginia, which is where other aerial encounters have happened. 83 00:05:57,989 --> 00:06:01,589 My friends over at the Dr. The war zone have covered that 84 00:06:01,589 --> 00:06:04,769 extensively. I had cross referenced what they had 85 00:06:04,769 --> 00:06:09,929 uncovered, and VFA 103 was not mentioned in any of those 86 00:06:09,929 --> 00:06:14,189 encounters. So it seemed that this was something brand new. 87 00:06:14,249 --> 00:06:17,519 Still could be. But But again, I'll get to that in a moment. 88 00:06:17,849 --> 00:06:21,869 But that was where I felt, hey, we are on to potentially a new 89 00:06:21,869 --> 00:06:27,359 case. So I filed you guessed it another FOIA request based on 90 00:06:27,779 --> 00:06:31,559 the reference to this briefing. Now, let me go ahead and just 91 00:06:31,559 --> 00:06:36,809 give me one moment here as I switch screens. So here is the 92 00:06:36,809 --> 00:06:41,819 result of that FOIA request in just today. It's dated April 5, 93 00:06:41,819 --> 00:06:46,679 but it was sent to me on April 6, of 2022. I won't read you the 94 00:06:46,679 --> 00:06:49,739 whole letter. But what I was essentially looking for was the 95 00:06:49,739 --> 00:06:54,059 following. All documents pertaining to a January 2019 96 00:06:54,059 --> 00:06:59,189 briefing by an F 18. Pilot from VFA 103. stationed at Naval Air 97 00:06:59,189 --> 00:07:02,909 Station Oceana, Virginia Beach, Virginia. This briefing was 98 00:07:02,909 --> 00:07:07,079 revealed in FOIA case I gave the case number and was referred to 99 00:07:07,079 --> 00:07:10,799 in the following way. Quote, anomalous aerial vehicle 100 00:07:10,799 --> 00:07:14,009 encounter brief to Senate Armed Service Committee professional 101 00:07:14,009 --> 00:07:19,259 staff members on 16 January, and F 18. Pilot from VFA 103 met 102 00:07:19,259 --> 00:07:24,059 with SAR CpSm SAR CpSm have continuing interest in 103 00:07:24,059 --> 00:07:27,359 unidentified aerial aerial vehicle intercepts that have 104 00:07:27,389 --> 00:07:30,239 occurred in the working airspace off the USGS coast and gave you 105 00:07:30,239 --> 00:07:34,169 a detail and gave a detailed brief on his personal encounter, 106 00:07:34,469 --> 00:07:36,929 I asked that you include all records that pertain to this 107 00:07:36,929 --> 00:07:40,829 briefing, this would include but not be limited to emails, 108 00:07:40,829 --> 00:07:42,989 reports, PowerPoint presentations, letters, memos, 109 00:07:42,989 --> 00:07:47,609 videos, photos, etc. That may pertain to this request, I ask 110 00:07:47,609 --> 00:07:49,589 that you use your best discretion of the officials 111 00:07:49,619 --> 00:07:55,109 search. So the I know I reread a quote that I already read to you 112 00:07:55,109 --> 00:07:58,529 in there. But again, I do that in FOIA is for the FOIA people 113 00:07:58,529 --> 00:08:01,379 out there, I encourage you to do the same. It really gives them 114 00:08:01,409 --> 00:08:04,439 as much detail as possible. And you're obviously citing 115 00:08:04,439 --> 00:08:06,839 something that gives the evidence that what you're 116 00:08:06,839 --> 00:08:10,019 requesting actually exists. So that's why you generally do that 117 00:08:10,019 --> 00:08:13,409 seems repetitive or too much sometimes, but trust me, it's 118 00:08:13,409 --> 00:08:16,709 very worthwhile. You can see here the Office of Legislative 119 00:08:16,709 --> 00:08:20,099 Affairs has identified one document totaling four pages 120 00:08:20,099 --> 00:08:24,599 that are responsive to your request. The redactions, which 121 00:08:24,599 --> 00:08:27,719 we'll get to, but you can see here cited as b one. That's 122 00:08:27,719 --> 00:08:32,069 national security information. You'll also see B five which is 123 00:08:32,069 --> 00:08:35,279 considered internal deliberation. That's a very 124 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:39,599 tough one to fight it's sad when that comes up. And then also be 125 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:42,509 six which is kind of that privacy information names. 126 00:08:42,749 --> 00:08:46,889 personally identifying information. Fast forward to the 127 00:08:46,889 --> 00:08:53,009 document. It's a it's a four pages three with content of a 128 00:08:53,009 --> 00:08:57,659 secret, email threat classified secrets, you can see here, 129 00:08:58,649 --> 00:09:02,009 reason being national security information, whatever is 130 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:05,249 withheld under be one and the redactions are likely what makes 131 00:09:05,249 --> 00:09:08,279 it secret. I'm going to read it for the audio version. It's not 132 00:09:08,279 --> 00:09:11,459 very long, but at least you can follow me along on the video. 133 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:15,749 And if you're listening, here you go. The subject matter is AR 134 00:09:15,749 --> 00:09:20,369 for 16 January FAA teen pilot brief to Senate Armed Service 135 00:09:20,369 --> 00:09:23,999 Committee, professional staff members on anomalous aerial 136 00:09:24,029 --> 00:09:34,799 vehicle detection event in 2015. Even though the I want to point 137 00:09:34,799 --> 00:09:40,409 this out here you can see it was sent in 2019. For whatever 138 00:09:40,409 --> 00:09:43,829 reason, they had redacted the date on that one FOIA released, 139 00:09:43,949 --> 00:09:47,429 released don't ask me why I have no idea. It's very interesting. 140 00:09:47,429 --> 00:09:49,829 You can see some of these redactions, but obviously now 141 00:09:49,829 --> 00:09:56,279 we're starting to paint a picture here. 2015 event 2019 142 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:59,549 briefing. Here's the message itself again once classified 143 00:09:59,549 --> 00:10:02,399 secret now declassified, with redactions 144 00:10:04,529 --> 00:10:09,149 Admiral provided for your essay or situational awareness. The 145 00:10:09,149 --> 00:10:14,159 following is an AR for the 16 January unclassified F 18. Pilot 146 00:10:14,159 --> 00:10:17,549 brief given to Senate Armed Services Committee, professional 147 00:10:17,549 --> 00:10:21,209 staff members, regarding an unresolved aerial vehicle 148 00:10:21,209 --> 00:10:26,369 detection event off the coast of Jacksonville in redacted. Not 149 00:10:26,369 --> 00:10:29,999 sure why, if that's a date, we've already established 2015. 150 00:10:30,689 --> 00:10:35,669 And if it's a potentially designator for an area of 151 00:10:35,669 --> 00:10:40,079 operation, maybe it looks too short to me, looks like a date. 152 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:44,129 So I think that was potentially a mistake, I am appealing this 153 00:10:44,129 --> 00:10:47,009 if you probably haven't guessed already. And I'll go through 154 00:10:47,009 --> 00:10:49,769 where I feel some of this stuff is is silly, but that is one 155 00:10:49,769 --> 00:10:53,939 that I am appealing. Based on the potentially safe assumption 156 00:10:54,089 --> 00:10:59,459 that it is a date. This AAR has not been coordinated with any 157 00:10:59,459 --> 00:11:02,189 outside office or forwarded to anywhere else. And then you'll 158 00:11:02,189 --> 00:11:06,959 see about two little more than two redacted lines. Exemption be 159 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:10,559 five, that's internal deliberation, not sure why. 160 00:11:11,849 --> 00:11:17,189 summary on 16 January, then redacted as be one national 161 00:11:17,189 --> 00:11:19,889 security information. So whatever they're hiding, they 162 00:11:19,889 --> 00:11:23,249 don't want to maybe know us to know the year, although that was 163 00:11:23,249 --> 00:11:26,189 already established, looks a little bit longer redaction 164 00:11:26,189 --> 00:11:32,219 wise. So I'm not sure what's there, and 16 January. And 165 00:11:32,219 --> 00:11:34,619 actually, let me rephrase that even though this looks like a 166 00:11:34,619 --> 00:11:41,069 one. And you can see a six here, which is likely a name, this may 167 00:11:41,069 --> 00:11:45,269 have been accidentally marked as a national security information. 168 00:11:45,719 --> 00:11:49,019 So forgive me this is brand new to so I'm Hey, I may be 169 00:11:49,019 --> 00:11:51,599 correcting myself here as I talk, because I've already gone 170 00:11:51,599 --> 00:11:55,169 over this a couple times. But it's, as you can tell, kind of 171 00:11:55,169 --> 00:11:58,259 hard to read an area. So I think that that's a one that likely is 172 00:11:59,939 --> 00:12:03,959 mismarked. So on 16 January, potentially a name gave Senate 173 00:12:03,959 --> 00:12:05,969 Armed Services Committee professional staff members his 174 00:12:05,969 --> 00:12:09,059 account of an instance where he detected an anomalous air 175 00:12:09,059 --> 00:12:13,139 vehicle in the warning area located and then redacted. 176 00:12:13,169 --> 00:12:18,269 That's obviously the location be six redaction, which is a name 177 00:12:18,299 --> 00:12:22,349 is currently serving as a pilot in also another be one redaction 178 00:12:22,349 --> 00:12:25,139 national security information likely places that pilot in a 179 00:12:25,139 --> 00:12:28,499 certain area, which they don't want to do during the time of 180 00:12:28,499 --> 00:12:32,249 the incident in and then potentially looks like a be one 181 00:12:32,249 --> 00:12:35,099 redaction. It's horrible. The way that this is compressed, 182 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:38,609 also looks like the length of a year. So during the time of the 183 00:12:38,609 --> 00:12:41,429 incident in redacted, he was serving as a naval flight 184 00:12:41,429 --> 00:12:45,479 officer in another redaction. The overall atmosphere in this 185 00:12:45,479 --> 00:12:48,689 meeting was very professional. The PSM were genuinely 186 00:12:48,689 --> 00:12:51,089 interested to hear his account of what happened during his era 187 00:12:51,089 --> 00:12:55,679 vehicle detection in redacted. They continue to show interest 188 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,429 in learning more about this types of detections and they are 189 00:12:59,429 --> 00:13:05,249 curious as to the way ahead, the Navy intends to take it. Now a 190 00:13:05,249 --> 00:13:08,279 quick time stamp this is 2019. So again, a lot of things are 191 00:13:08,279 --> 00:13:12,449 kind of unfolding here with the UAP Task Force, which hasn't 192 00:13:12,449 --> 00:13:16,049 been acknowledged yet. Those guidelines that were reported by 193 00:13:16,079 --> 00:13:21,359 Politico first, that were again, kind of around this timeframe, 194 00:13:21,359 --> 00:13:25,439 things happen fast in the UAP world, but but but at this 195 00:13:25,439 --> 00:13:29,699 point, you know, just to kind of timestamp it. That's where there 196 00:13:29,699 --> 00:13:32,429 was kind of uncertainty on where the Navy was going to take it. 197 00:13:33,299 --> 00:13:35,879 Let me continue reading in addition to and then redacted 198 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:42,089 with no citation to Naval aviators from OSI redacted. Were 199 00:13:42,089 --> 00:13:46,469 also in attendance at this brief, redacted and redacted. So 200 00:13:46,469 --> 00:13:49,499 obviously two names. Both of them had been part of squadrons 201 00:13:49,499 --> 00:13:53,399 based out of NAS OCEANA. While they are no firsthand accounts 202 00:13:53,429 --> 00:13:56,099 of detecting anomalous aerial vehicles, they were very 203 00:13:56,099 --> 00:13:59,039 familiar with the occurrences and were queried by the 204 00:13:59,189 --> 00:14:01,919 professional staff members a few times as to what they had 205 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:08,459 observed and learned in redacted and then another redaction 206 00:14:08,459 --> 00:14:12,269 clearly a name was serving as a weapon systems officer in 207 00:14:12,329 --> 00:14:16,109 redacted at that time the squadron was participating and 208 00:14:16,109 --> 00:14:20,339 calm to come to x with the and then another national security 209 00:14:20,339 --> 00:14:24,449 redaction as part of the pre deployment workup cycle, towards 210 00:14:24,449 --> 00:14:28,229 the end of one of the night flights. Now, the redaction was 211 00:14:28,229 --> 00:14:32,159 conducted during the ad C period. He in His pilot detected 212 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:36,779 an air contact via and then a redacted national security so 213 00:14:36,779 --> 00:14:42,479 maybe a weapon system or a sensor of some kind. So via 214 00:14:42,479 --> 00:14:45,179 redacted coming from the east and heading towards the ship 215 00:14:45,179 --> 00:14:49,649 initially thinking it may be a simulated adversary aircraft as 216 00:14:49,649 --> 00:14:55,439 part of the complex scenario. He took a redacted lock to 217 00:14:55,439 --> 00:14:59,969 investigate further, the contact was at approximately redacted 218 00:15:00,539 --> 00:15:02,309 With a stable track file, 219 00:15:02,729 --> 00:15:07,019 the two aircraft determined that it was not a false hit. And they 220 00:15:07,019 --> 00:15:12,449 were able to gain a lock via the and then redacted line and a 221 00:15:12,449 --> 00:15:16,199 half or about a line or so, which further indicated the 222 00:15:16,199 --> 00:15:22,679 vehicle had a redacted it became clear via or via I say it both 223 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:27,569 ways via and then quite a few redacted lines. The pilot 224 00:15:27,569 --> 00:15:33,119 maneuvered the redacted to maintain redacted lock in an 225 00:15:33,119 --> 00:15:37,379 effort to redacted I, again, doing this for the audio 226 00:15:37,379 --> 00:15:39,899 version. It sounds a little bit silly, but I'm trying to give a 227 00:15:39,899 --> 00:15:43,649 verbal representation of what we are seeing here visually, for 228 00:15:43,649 --> 00:15:47,429 those watching the video. And now for you listening this next 229 00:15:47,429 --> 00:15:50,549 line is going to upset a lot of people. Because this was the 230 00:15:50,549 --> 00:15:54,959 most frustrating aspect of the declassified but heavily 231 00:15:54,959 --> 00:15:59,819 redacted, classified UAP report that I reported on about a week 232 00:15:59,819 --> 00:16:03,389 and a half ago, obviously made worldwide headlines, because 233 00:16:03,389 --> 00:16:06,989 that was something that had never been out before and gave a 234 00:16:06,989 --> 00:16:10,679 little bit more information. The most frustrating aspect, all of 235 00:16:10,679 --> 00:16:14,909 the shapes of the UAP detected through their study, were all 236 00:16:14,909 --> 00:16:19,259 redacted. Well look at here, the next line says the air vehicle 237 00:16:19,289 --> 00:16:23,909 appear to be shaped like and then redacted. And in fact, it's 238 00:16:23,909 --> 00:16:28,679 not a short redaction, it goes on for quite a bit. A pretty big 239 00:16:28,679 --> 00:16:34,199 portion of the page, maybe about 30% or so a third of it, that is 240 00:16:34,199 --> 00:16:38,609 redacted. All be one, all national security information. 241 00:16:38,939 --> 00:16:43,259 So obviously, it goes well into detail beyond just a shape. What 242 00:16:43,259 --> 00:16:47,339 that detail is is unknown. Now beyond this heavily redacted 243 00:16:47,339 --> 00:16:51,119 paragraph, there is one sentence that survived that big old 244 00:16:51,119 --> 00:16:54,749 blackbox for national security reason. And for me, it's 245 00:16:54,749 --> 00:16:58,679 potentially the most intriguing aspect of this whole release. 246 00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:02,969 And it reads in December 2017, a portion of that video was aired 247 00:17:02,969 --> 00:17:05,879 by the press and congressional interest in these sightings 248 00:17:05,879 --> 00:17:12,119 began to grow. If all of this is the same 2015 encounter, so 249 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,669 everything here that we can't read, assuming that they are 250 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,429 talking about the shape, and then potentially other 251 00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:21,059 characteristics. I mean, who knows, there's quite a lot of 252 00:17:21,059 --> 00:17:23,849 information you can fit in there. But assuming they didn't 253 00:17:23,849 --> 00:17:28,559 shift gears, and in this portion of the redacted area shifts 254 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:32,699 gears to the gimbal sighting and then they reveal this line. In 255 00:17:32,699 --> 00:17:35,249 December 2017, a portion of that video was aired. 256 00:17:37,170 --> 00:17:40,950 It may be safe to say that this entire thing is the pilot of the 257 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:46,230 gimbal. Video coming forward and giving this unclassified 258 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:49,230 briefing. Now we know in December of 2017, there were two 259 00:17:49,230 --> 00:17:53,190 videos that were published the FLIR which was the Nimitz 260 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:57,000 encounter video from November of 2004, published by The New York 261 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,060 Times, that's obviously not this, because we've already made 262 00:18:00,060 --> 00:18:05,670 reference to 2015. And then the gimbal video, and a story that I 263 00:18:05,670 --> 00:18:09,570 wrote quite a few years ago now got the Navy on the record about 264 00:18:09,570 --> 00:18:13,770 that video, it had never been revealed before, that the gimbal 265 00:18:13,770 --> 00:18:22,680 video was shot on 21, January 2015. That fits, that also fits 266 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,570 the comp 2x connection, that training, which let me pull up 267 00:18:27,570 --> 00:18:29,490 here a different article I'm looking at make sure I get the 268 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:34,740 dates, right, that lasted from January 15 through February 4. 269 00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:39,810 So if this was shot in 2013 2015, meaning the gimbal in 270 00:18:39,810 --> 00:18:47,670 2015 on 21, January, then that fits. And I have I mean I'm sure 271 00:18:47,670 --> 00:18:51,390 somebody talked about it. So just trust me, my brain is fried 272 00:18:51,660 --> 00:18:55,320 with all of these different dates and acronyms and stories 273 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,770 and trying to keep up on all SAP this and a tip that and UAP over 274 00:18:58,770 --> 00:19:02,490 here and UFO over there, and so on and so forth. So it's kind of 275 00:19:02,490 --> 00:19:04,620 hard, but I'm sure someone somewhere talked about the 276 00:19:04,620 --> 00:19:07,980 complex connection. It just didn't really ring a bell to me. 277 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:10,920 But regardless, you put all those pieces together the 278 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,330 puzzle, it appears that this is likely the gimbal pilot who gave 279 00:19:15,330 --> 00:19:21,150 the briefing, they talked about the video that created the the 280 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:26,100 congressional interest based on it being published. And so all 281 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:30,480 of this, but I'd love to see it, because I think you know people 282 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,040 like Mick West who have really dug in and analyze the video. 283 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:39,360 This information could be key to either confirming what he's been 284 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:43,470 saying or potentially saying sorry, this additional 285 00:19:43,470 --> 00:19:48,270 information proves otherwise. So that is something that I think 286 00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:52,830 we will fight for through the appeal. And yes, I am 287 00:19:52,830 --> 00:19:56,850 structuring it probably in the next week or so I have 90 days 288 00:19:56,850 --> 00:19:59,700 to do it. So at a time like this, I usually take a deep 289 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:03,660 breath digest it read all of this a couple of times, see what 290 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:09,060 I can fight, see what's a lost cause and go from there. So I 291 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:11,790 want to go back to reading the document for you. But again, 292 00:20:11,790 --> 00:20:14,700 that that really was a key line I wanted to make sure I pointed 293 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:19,350 out to you. In this email chain that was written to this 294 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:22,350 Admiral, by the way, if I didn't mention it, the admiral is 295 00:20:22,350 --> 00:20:26,190 unknown. It's just a Admiral because the names are redacted. 296 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:30,630 But in this email and kind of sexual awareness, situational 297 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:34,890 awareness briefing to the admiral, they also do a bullet 298 00:20:34,890 --> 00:20:37,350 point list of what the professional staff members were 299 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:41,280 interested in. So I'm going to read those PSM interest areas to 300 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,110 you. The staffers asked if the object seemed aware of the 301 00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:51,390 redacted or the Navy ships in the area. The staffers also 302 00:20:51,390 --> 00:20:56,190 asked, redacted if he knew if the redacted observe the 303 00:20:56,190 --> 00:21:01,080 unidentified craft via radar as he did. I'm kind of curious what 304 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,810 they're referring to. They're like what else was in the area 305 00:21:03,810 --> 00:21:07,710 that they cannot name? So that's kind of interesting. And they 306 00:21:07,710 --> 00:21:11,670 wanted to see if the objects were aware of against something 307 00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:15,870 that they could not name. So what, during this complex 308 00:21:15,870 --> 00:21:20,370 exercise, was that classified for them not to be able to be 309 00:21:20,370 --> 00:21:24,330 mentioned? I'm not insinuating a conspiracy, by the way on that, 310 00:21:24,420 --> 00:21:28,860 but rather intrigue that they have this, this type of new 311 00:21:28,890 --> 00:21:32,610 sensor weaponry, what do they got out there? Not really sure. 312 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:36,000 staffers were interested in the shape of the unidentified 313 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,550 object, and how it compared to the redacted objects identified 314 00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:46,740 by other pilots. So other pilots were seeing something that were 315 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:50,490 identified, but they can't tell you what it was. So that also 316 00:21:50,490 --> 00:21:54,480 was in a very intriguing redaction there that what is 317 00:21:54,510 --> 00:21:57,480 what is the threat to national security that pilots were 318 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,950 seeing, and how did they compare to this other pilots sighting 319 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,050 insinuating potentially the same thing? Obviously, the staffers 320 00:22:07,050 --> 00:22:10,290 are, are good with their questioning. I mean, no 321 00:22:10,290 --> 00:22:12,930 complaints. It looks like they were genuinely interested in 322 00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:13,350 digging. 323 00:22:15,030 --> 00:22:18,270 staffers were interested in the amount of experience redacted 324 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:21,870 had and the amount of flight hours he had, they were very 325 00:22:21,870 --> 00:22:26,190 respectful of his opinions and thoughts based on his 700 plus 326 00:22:26,190 --> 00:22:30,390 hours of experience at the time. Likely, that's the gimbal pilot, 327 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:34,830 the guy who filmed the gimbal video, we now know he's got over 328 00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:40,830 700 hours of flight time as experience. Staffers also asked 329 00:22:40,830 --> 00:22:43,980 about the action the Navy took following redacted returned to 330 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:47,340 the ship to include his deep debrief by the intelligence 331 00:22:47,340 --> 00:22:52,620 professionals and actions taken by the CV W staff, commander of 332 00:22:52,620 --> 00:22:55,530 the strike group, and others throughout the chain of command. 333 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,160 The staffers were disappointed by the lack of action taken by 334 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,760 the Navy. They also wondered what happened to the video 335 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,230 evidence of the encounter. The staffers also asked if redacted 336 00:23:07,230 --> 00:23:10,920 was forced to take a drug test following the incident or was 337 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,790 harassed. A couple things to unpack there. What happened to 338 00:23:14,790 --> 00:23:19,170 the video? So if this is the gimbal, and they've already made 339 00:23:19,170 --> 00:23:24,510 reference to it, what are they talking about? Is there an 340 00:23:24,510 --> 00:23:30,510 extended one? Is there a second incident? So maybe that blacked 341 00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:34,560 out paragraph does talk about another incident? And then it 342 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,470 kind of shifts gears under the redactions. So we don't know. 343 00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:41,970 And that it ends with in December 17. This came out and 344 00:23:41,970 --> 00:23:45,810 created the interest. So are we putting that together? I don't 345 00:23:45,810 --> 00:23:49,020 know. Everything else matches up, though. So it's one of 346 00:23:49,020 --> 00:23:51,720 those. Look, we're working together. I don't have all the 347 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,720 answers. It's why I love to do videos like this to kind of show 348 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,290 you guys hey, this is what we have. This is what we know, this 349 00:23:58,290 --> 00:24:01,170 is what we've learned. And this is what we have no idea about. 350 00:24:01,410 --> 00:24:04,050 And that is one of those things where I think we have just no 351 00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:08,430 idea at this point. The other part was, where did the drug 352 00:24:08,430 --> 00:24:12,960 test and harassment question come from? Other than was that 353 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,250 based on experience? Meaning did those PMS hear that before and 354 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:19,680 go, Hey, you know, is this a trend? Are they drug testing all 355 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,620 these guys? Did they encourage the drug testing? Did they 356 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:25,770 discourage the drug testing? You know, what, what what was the 357 00:24:25,770 --> 00:24:28,200 root of that question? Sadly, with these bullet points, 358 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,470 they're just that it's not a transcript, not a quote. We also 359 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:35,370 don't hear what the pilot said in response to these questions, 360 00:24:35,370 --> 00:24:41,040 which is also very much a shame. Next point the staffers also 361 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:44,940 asked about the chain of custody of the video of the encounter. 362 00:24:45,330 --> 00:24:48,450 The staffers are genuine generally disappointed that the 363 00:24:48,450 --> 00:24:54,960 Navy does not save any video of these encounters and the chain 364 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,640 of custody is lacking. So that also may play in that the gimbal 365 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:05,610 clip That kind of maybe was saved as a just that a clip was 366 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:10,110 the one that came out that leaked out, then later approved 367 00:25:10,110 --> 00:25:15,330 for release a couple years later by the Navy. Is there something 368 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,450 else was there something was there an extended version that 369 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:22,260 was talked about here that wasn't saved. And I hate to say 370 00:25:22,260 --> 00:25:26,430 it, this actually coincides with the Navy stance, that what they 371 00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:29,370 released in that FOIA request that I had done that that 372 00:25:29,370 --> 00:25:33,390 spanned a couple years. And then again, they did that proactive 373 00:25:33,390 --> 00:25:39,090 release publicly. It reinforces that there's nothing else. Now 374 00:25:39,090 --> 00:25:42,540 keep in mind, this was a classified secret exchange up 375 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:47,490 until today. So all of this on these types of conspiracies. And 376 00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:51,330 trust me, I'm all for a good conspiracy and cover up. When 377 00:25:51,330 --> 00:25:54,840 you allege something, you have to back it up. And if you don't 378 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,410 have the backed up evidence, we don't know if the Navy is lying. 379 00:25:58,950 --> 00:26:03,090 But sadly, this does reinforce the stance. And when you start 380 00:26:03,090 --> 00:26:06,000 getting evidence like this, what's the more likely scenario 381 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,720 that maybe it's true, they don't have a bigger clip, or that they 382 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,510 are fabricating all this material to throw us all off? 383 00:26:12,690 --> 00:26:16,590 And they have like a 28 minute or 23 minute, you know, gimbal 384 00:26:16,590 --> 00:26:21,570 video, I doubt it. So I feel that maybe we're on to the 385 00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:26,070 reality that whatever we have on the gimbal video wise, is it and 386 00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:31,020 there's not going to be anything miraculously discovered. What 387 00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:34,470 we'll see, I hope I'm wrong. I'm just saying like these, these 388 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:38,100 are pieces of the puzzle, and we just have to take it all for 389 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:43,800 what it's worth. Next bullet point overall, the staffers 390 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,390 desired, redacted to spread the word that Congress is interested 391 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:51,780 in this topic and are willing to hear about their experiences. 392 00:26:53,010 --> 00:26:56,250 Staffers asked all three naval aviators why they had the 393 00:26:56,250 --> 00:27:01,440 perception that the unidentified objects were redacted. The 394 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,600 staffers were shocked that the range Fowler's in 2014 to 2015. 395 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,580 redacted full line. That is the first time a pilot communicated 396 00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:12,630 to the staffers 397 00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:19,320 redacted to a large extent. Pretty interesting there on the 398 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,910 redactions. Wonder what that is. Whenever you see the word 399 00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:27,630 shocked in anything, means there's something good. Of 400 00:27:27,630 --> 00:27:32,430 course it has to be redacted. Next point finally the SSC I 401 00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:36,270 staffer wanted to know the official Navy response and 402 00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:39,690 reaction to these reports and observances be great to know 403 00:27:39,690 --> 00:27:43,440 what the pilot said. The staffers indicated that Senator 404 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,960 Reed, Senator Durbin and Senator Menendez were all interested in 405 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,770 this topic and will likely desire to talk with pilots 406 00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:58,710 directly who observed these unexplained craft. Last one, I 407 00:27:58,710 --> 00:28:03,510 think, no, yes. Yes. last bullet point. The SAIC staffers 408 00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:06,150 indicated there is a low possibility that this topic will 409 00:28:06,150 --> 00:28:10,170 come up during the CMOS posture hearings scheduled for February 410 00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:14,520 to March 2019. You'll see here a bunch of redaction big paragraph 411 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,480 B five, that's internal deliberation, not really sure 412 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,610 what in what could be there. It could be just personal banter to 413 00:28:23,610 --> 00:28:27,090 the admiral a lot of times you do see B five as a redaction. 414 00:28:27,870 --> 00:28:32,730 The B five redaction, as I noted earlier in the video very hard 415 00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:36,990 to fight. But in the same respect, it's also a highly 416 00:28:36,990 --> 00:28:41,400 controversial citation. And it's been bantered about for many, 417 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,090 many years. And Congress is aiming to try and help 418 00:28:45,450 --> 00:28:49,920 redactions utilizing be five and essentially what we call it in 419 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,800 the FOIA world. Some of you may have heard me say this before. 420 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,920 It's essentially the redacted if you want to exemption, there's 421 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,370 no rhyme or reason. And that's why it's so controversial, so 422 00:28:59,370 --> 00:29:03,270 I'm fighting that as well and hopes to get some of it. On 423 00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:07,830 another minor note, I'll go back to the minor note. Here you can 424 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:11,520 see the the redactions on the names, Navy Office of 425 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,240 Legislative Affairs. You can see there, it's all redacted. But 426 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,360 that's where it came. All the people that were in attendance 427 00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:23,190 are all redacted under be six that's pretty standard. I would 428 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:27,030 imagine one of the individuals here from oni would be Jay 429 00:29:27,030 --> 00:29:31,710 Stratton. You've heard me talk about him quite a bit. He was 430 00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:35,730 what was then revealed, although I kind of assumed it from 2019. 431 00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:40,860 Very, very involved in the UAP effort with the Navy. It was 432 00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:44,460 then revealed through FOIA that he was the one that originally 433 00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:47,790 wrote some of the UAP statements I got that broke the story that 434 00:29:47,790 --> 00:29:51,570 the gimbal FLIR and go fast were considered an identified and 435 00:29:51,810 --> 00:29:55,080 labeled as UAP. And then recently, in the last couple of 436 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,560 months got a navy document that solidified in black and white he 437 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,130 was the head of the UAP Task Force And he was the guy giving 438 00:30:02,130 --> 00:30:05,550 the classified briefings. So when I say pieces of the puzzle, 439 00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:08,160 you have to really piece together stuff because some of 440 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,910 those documents to piece, all of that together came from the DOD, 441 00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:15,090 and the Office of the Secretary of Defense, Joint Chiefs of 442 00:30:15,090 --> 00:30:19,020 Staff, and NASA, and the Navy. So you're going to put all those 443 00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:23,430 together to create a much bigger picture. So you can see here, 444 00:30:23,460 --> 00:30:24,360 more names, 445 00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:29,970 more names. And just the identifier, there, again, was 446 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,540 secret that was declassified. I always love seeing this. it 447 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:36,330 dispels the myth, the myth that no classified information can 448 00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:39,210 ever be released through FOIA until it hits I think somebody 449 00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:42,660 said 30 years. That was all bunk. You can see here 450 00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:47,730 declassify on 2046. Yet I was still able to get it. So that 451 00:30:47,730 --> 00:30:50,850 debunks the myth. I always love debunking those types of silly 452 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:55,050 myths. Anyway, that's it. That's a breakdown of the document, you 453 00:30:55,050 --> 00:30:57,390 can see there's still a lot of unanswered questions. But this 454 00:30:57,390 --> 00:31:01,530 really takes that story to the next level to where we learn a 455 00:31:01,530 --> 00:31:04,230 few other things. Now, that minor note that I referenced, I 456 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:07,110 want to go back to it very, very quickly and close the video with 457 00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:11,790 this. I don't really have an exact exact answer to this. But 458 00:31:11,790 --> 00:31:14,970 I want to point it out because I think I know what's going on. If 459 00:31:14,970 --> 00:31:18,870 on your screen. You can see I'm going to zoom in here. It gets a 460 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:21,630 little bit blurry. I'm sorry for the audio version. But hopefully 461 00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:25,380 my point will resonate verbally as well. Look at the difference 462 00:31:25,380 --> 00:31:30,810 in redactions that were utilized and how they were redacted. And 463 00:31:30,810 --> 00:31:34,140 you can see here that this was obviously put in on the copy 464 00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:37,620 that I'm looking at. Likely these redactions were added on 465 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:40,650 that copy. This redaction is different see how these 466 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,370 redactions are different and the redacted different and red and 467 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:47,700 much more compressed, and this is much more crisp. That 468 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:53,940 indicates a multi layer, review process. And redactions being 469 00:31:53,970 --> 00:31:59,010 added by multiple layers of that review process. So likely this 470 00:31:59,010 --> 00:32:04,140 was the first review. It gets copied. And just because I've 471 00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:08,610 scanned millions of documents, this likely was then scanned in 472 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,900 the way that this looks. Then more redactions were added by 473 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,620 somebody else. So whomever did the original one and only 474 00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:20,250 redacted this, somebody decided to redact everything else. So I 475 00:32:20,250 --> 00:32:24,870 bet you in my appeal, I'm going to note that and say that likely 476 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,830 what we are looking at are multiple layered redactions. And 477 00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:31,800 essentially that this information probably passed the 478 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,470 clearance of that first layer. And they didn't have an 479 00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:37,110 objection. But somebody else came aboard and said, Nope, 480 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:40,950 redact everything. You can see here to the difference, that 481 00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:44,610 these redactions were likely from that first layer, and then 482 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,780 others came after. And you can see that by again, the different 483 00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:52,710 coloring of the layers. And you can see here that potentially 484 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:56,250 there was a third, where you have these types of redactions 485 00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:59,700 that look like they were part of the scan. But different colored 486 00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:03,000 redactions. And no, they generally don't change the color 487 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,960 based on the redaction itself. Because here is an obvious B six 488 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,280 redaction, which is white, probably that first or you know, 489 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,850 first layer, and there's a B six redaction, which is potentially 490 00:33:14,850 --> 00:33:18,720 a second layer, but in red, different font, and everything. 491 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,870 So I think that potentially, we're looking at if I were to 492 00:33:21,870 --> 00:33:27,120 guess, three layers, the first two layers, they do all the ones 493 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,000 that you see that are better, again, the red and the white, 494 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,750 but very heavily compressed. The third layer comes in you can see 495 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:38,940 here, another very crisp B five, and a very crisp black 496 00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:42,300 redaction. And I know that that some of you may think I'm going 497 00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:46,200 crazy pointing that out. But I want to do that because it shows 498 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:52,140 the immense secrecy of the UAP and UFO topic. But on top of 499 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:57,330 that, how many hands are going into redacting these records? 500 00:33:57,330 --> 00:34:01,890 Now review processes do take place in non UFO and UAP related 501 00:34:03,390 --> 00:34:05,970 cases throughout every agency that's 502 00:34:05,970 --> 00:34:10,440 common, don't get me wrong. But I will say that the redactions 503 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,210 like this, stick out to me on on this particular request as being 504 00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:20,940 abnormal. So reviews, absolutely normal. But let adding layers of 505 00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:24,630 redactions that are likely passing, passing the test 506 00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:26,790 through one and they're allowed to release it, but then it goes 507 00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:29,700 to somebody else and like now it can't release this doesn't make 508 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:34,200 any sense. All of this is probably Navy information also. 509 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,780 So we're not dealing with other agencies, which is sometimes you 510 00:34:39,810 --> 00:34:44,640 you deal with, so Navy will do a pass on their information. But 511 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,830 then someone else does another layer of air force if they have 512 00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:53,640 information on it. I saw that in the in the classified report 513 00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:57,900 that I got released where 13 different entities had to review 514 00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:02,100 their respective information for release Here is all navy. So Oh 515 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:06,840 La the Office of Legislative Affairs, navy, navy. Sure, the 516 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,450 Senate Armed Services Committee, the professional staff members 517 00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:12,720 took a role. But they don't do the redactions because they are 518 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,560 not what's called a OPR. They're not an office of primary 519 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,950 responsibility, or OCA, the original classifying authority 520 00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:24,330 of information like this. So likely too much info for some of 521 00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:28,140 you. But for you geeks like me, I love stuff like that, because 522 00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:34,470 again, it reinforces that secrecy. And the very careful 523 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,500 process that they've now developed to release UFO and UFO 524 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:47,370 related information and UAP related information. So not sure 525 00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:49,890 if we're on that road to disclosure like some people say, 526 00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:53,610 and others have claimed a new era of transparency and all 527 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,060 although I do agree, and it's a good thing that the conversation 528 00:35:57,060 --> 00:36:01,290 has changed. It is like pulling teeth to get records like this. 529 00:36:01,290 --> 00:36:05,790 So that disclosure, and that era of transparency. You can see 530 00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:08,730 from this video alone, why I respectfully disagree. 531 00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:12,870 Hopefully, you guys got some use out of it. Please, by all means, 532 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:15,090 if you're watching on YouTube, give me your comments below. 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