John Greenewald: That's right, everybody, as always, thank you
so much for tuning in and making this your podcast or your live
stream of choice. I'm your host, John Greenewald, Jr, founder and
creator of the Black vault.com. And I am doing this live show, I
didn't really think it was going to get along the way, every time
I do these things, something drastic happens. And of course,
that happened on this one as well. But I think everything has
worked out with the phone systems, we're going to open up
those phone lines in just a little bit. And that is
something that I'm pretty excited about. So before we get
there, though, I want to go through a couple of the updates
that the black vault has posted. It's been about a month, since
we have done a show like this and where I get to update you
guys. And, you know, tell you a little bit about what's going on
on the website, and what kind of documents and so on and so
forth. So as people roll in here, I'm broadcasting these
live shows now, throughout the social media platforms that the
blackball reaches, so primarily is YouTube, if you're not
watching on YouTube, that really is where most of the action
happens, in fact, about 98 99% of the action. So if you're on
Facebook, or Twitter's Periscope, I think they call it
now. Or I thought they didn't call it that anymore, but I
guess they still do. I don't know, I can't keep all of that
straight. But regardless, it's blasting on all of those,
YouTube's chat is pretty much going to be the most hoppin. So
if you don't know how to get there, go to the black vault.com
slash live. And that will bounce you to the YouTube channel. I've
got access, though, to everybody on all the platforms. So I will
be able to see, at least to the best of my ability. Anyway, all
of those comments streaming through, but there's already a
couple 100 people watching. We're just getting underway. So
my guess is if history is going to repeat itself, there's no way
I'm going to be able to watch that chat as we go, I will do my
best. Those on YouTube, super chats are open, those are a
great way to support the channel 100% of anything that comes in
on a Super Chat goes right back into supporting this channel,
interviews, live stream, stuff like that. So thank you for
that, if you decide to do it, and those actually help stick
out a little bit more in my I hear on this monitor when they
come in. So with that, let me go ahead and start with some of the
let's call them updates here in the last in the last month or so
since we've talked last now first, on a personal note, I
forgot to mention this already. If I stopped for a second or
seemingly wince in pain, I didn't want to admit this, but
I'm going to have to I did something to my back yesterday,
I believe I was playing with my son and it is excruciating. So
that was one of the reasons why I didn't think this show would
go off tonight, but I really, really wanted to do it. And this
is going to kind of help keep my mind off of that. So if I do
kind of stop for a second, and maybe you'll see me shift.
That's why it is absolutely awful, to be honest with you.
But I usually don't get personal, especially about
ailments but you guys might be able to pick up on it if you
know me and have seen this channel before. So that was the
quick explanation. So let's get rolling here. here's here's some
of the updates. This I want to start with this is one of the
most recent that I published this week. This was not
available anywhere else I had done a FOIA request to NASA got
quite a few different documents and discovered that Bill Nelson,
the administrator for NASA, is
or excuse me was going to be briefed on uaps this week,
specifically, the 17th. Now I published this story and to be
honest with you gave the Department of Defense and NASA
about a week to respond. And of course they didn't. I published
the story with the documents saying that administrator Nelson
was set on the 17th to be briefed and wanted to see if
they would comment they did not I published on Monday because
his briefing was scheduled for Tuesday. And lo and behold a
couple hours after I published I had a full comment and statement
from the D o t. These were the documents that I got just so you
guys know how some of these stories Unfold when I started
fishing around via the Freedom of Information Act, and some of
you guys who who are either getting into it, I know a lot of
people that use the FOIA or thinking about using the FOIA
like to hear these little extra tidbits, what you try and do is
you find, literally the little nugget of gold in the stack of
documents that comes in. Sometimes it is excruciating Lee
boring, meaning you will get 1000 pages on something. And
there's just like nothing there. That was kind of true with this
NASA dump that they gave me. And there were quite a few different
pages that came in response to my request, there were different
emails and different documents and stuff like that, that came
up with unidentified aerial phenomena as a keyword or
different variations UAP. And you'll see on this side here, in
this breakdown of our weekly update, and essentially what
what this is, is is a schedule of events. It's sent out every
week, this particular data dump that I got from NASA, there were
a couple in there. And on August 17, you will see it says
briefing to administrator on task force report on
unidentified aerial phenomena. This was not known before, this
was not something that was around had been reported by
mainstream media, out of everything that I got that one
line was the only interesting piece of this. And so that's
where I went ahead and, and just glommed on to that sent press
requests for comment to NASA, but also the do D anything that
they do on UFOs, or uaps. goes right to Susan golf. It's no
secret. So cc her on the same email, but was hoping that
NASA's
PR person for the administrator, who I've spoken with before, I
was hoping she might be able to give me something she was not on
behalf of the God came a couple hours after I published the
story announcing it. In short, it was confirmed. So on Tuesday,
Nelson, although they did not confirm through the press office
that he was there. The documentation does that for us
that the briefing was for the NASA administrator. So it seems
like here's the point of these types of stories because that
doesn't sound like all that big of a deal. What this shows is
things are working, things are progressing. It seems like what
the mainstream media after that UAP report came out, it seems
like everything kind of really like took the wind out of the
sails of the mainstream media covering this. That's the
feeling that I got. It's because that report was not mind
blowing. And I think the mainstream media was, was hoping
that it would be. But these types of stories, albeit small,
and are not, you know, mind blowing in itself. What they
show is things are working agencies are getting involved at
the top layer. And NASA being involved in this I published a
story about a month ago, this one was from this week, but
quite a few weeks ago, that showed that the UAP Task Force
had reached out to NASA and said, Hey, we want to request a
briefing with you guys, on uaps, which did unfold, I was able to
confirm that as well. But this shows that things are
progressing, the UAP Task Force is working. The UAP topic is
important. This is obviously going to the NASA administrator
and not some, you know, low level guy. This is the top. And
so this shows that it really is progressing. So I dig stories
like that, again, nothing on its own, that's completely mind
blowing. But rather just another piece of the puzzle showing that
we are getting somewhere that we're going somewhere. Another
story that I went ahead and published here in the last
couple of weeks was on the Senate Select Committee on
Intelligence passing in their committee, the intelligence
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022. Now, just a refresher
2020 ones same Act, which then ended up in the COVID relief
package. And it's a very convoluted, confusing story. But
regardless, the language that essentially mandated that report
on uaps, that was published in June, that was from the
intelligence Authorization Act for 2022. Now that's starting to
come to fruition and starting to go through the process. That in
itself is also progressing to the point where they also have
UAP Task Force information in there. But also something was
very interesting not only will there be periodic updates and
and at this stage of the game anyway, that's what they're
aiming for. There will be those updates in the reports, but also
this line, availability of data on unidentified aerial
phenomena. The director of national intelligence and the
Secretary of Defense shall each in coordinate nation with each
other, require each element of the intelligence community and
the Department of Defense with data relating to unidentified
aerial phenomena to make such data available immediately to
the unidentified aerial phenomena Task Force, and to the
National Air and Space Intelligence Center. What does
that mean? It means that the Air Force is entering the game. The
National Air and Space Intelligence Center is
essentially showing that the UAP Task Force is working with that
one military branch that is completely Mum, and has been mum
on this topic for the most part. And they are heavily involved on
this channel, I've done a video about the fact that the UAP task
force report, or what's often referred to as the UAP task
force report, was co authored by a Airforce Major General. And so
even though we're not hearing from them, you see stuff like
this and realize the Air Force is very much involved. But
they're just not publicly involved. What level of their
involvement is kind of anybody's guess I've still got numerous
open cases, and tried to dig on that. And that'll play into my
next story in a moment. But exactly what kind of role
they're playing is a little bit of a mystery. So that is still
unfolding. But for me, anyway, that was the difference about
the language in this bill, and the National Air and Space
Intelligence Center within the United States Air Force.
Like I said, it plays into a little bit of my next story as
well that I published, I received more internal
communications from the United States Air Force, on uaps, and
UFOs, some of which had never been published before. What's
interesting about this is you see, and you can juxtapose the
difference between internal communications from the United
States Air Force, and let's say the United States Navy. And it's
very interesting because they are drastically different in the
way they view and handle the UAP topic and information,
especially through the Office of Public Affairs, or the or, you
know, aka the press office. And you can see how the Navy has
been, in the past couple of years very open about not
understanding the phenomena, how it's unidentified, how it's
things that they can't, they can't understand, they can't
figure out the Air Force's Press Office internally showed that
they said they were talking about drones, and UAS is and the
media turns it into UFOs, and aliens. And so those are two
wildly different viewpoints from two different branches of our
United States military. So it'll be very interesting as this all
unfolds, to see how the United States Air Force essentially
plays ball with the Navy's UAP task force, which is headed by
the you know, Office of Naval Intelligence, I guess, is where
it's technically at. Again, a lot of those details I'll be at
are rumored about right now are not solidified. In stone yet,
because a lot of it has not come out. But definitely don't miss
those documents, because there's a lot of interesting,
interesting material in that. Now, I did tease this out, so to
speak, you know, I always harp on people for teasing, but I
figured a 40 minute heads up of what I was going to be talking
about in this particular segment was okay, apologies if anybody
hates teases like that. But I wanted to at least tell you guys
that there was something new to the stream, it's not just an
overview. The story that I'm working on right now, just to
give you guys a little bit of a sneak peek is all about the to
the stars Academy of Arts and Science. That's Tom DeLonge, his
group and the agreement that he made with the United States
Army.
Now, just a quick refresher for those because it's been a while
since we've really heard about this. This goes back to October
of 2019. This was the story that I had published Back then, I was
one of the very first to get the actual agreement. Now to the
stars Academy released a press release, said that they had
created this agreement with the United States Army, and that
they were going to be utilizing essentially army facilities and
equipment to analyze the UAP debris or pieces or however you
want to refer to them within the United States Army. Now,
regardless of what your thoughts are on this, I was immediately
kind of taken aback by that announcement. Not necessarily
that they made an agreement with the military. But the fact like
my biggest concern was the fact that here they are collecting
all of this UAP related material. And we've all talked
about we're all pretty much in agreement, there is a cover up
of some kind by the United States military and by the the
United States government. You're taking all this UAP material and
walking it back into the doors of the United States military,
for testing. Now, on the surface, it seemed great. But as
you dig, it was very concerning that that there was something,
you know, going on here, like, why would you? Why would you do
that. And although my critique is more about the claims they
made, that has connected to the military to the d, o, t, to a
tip to UFOs, and so on, I kind of left for the most part ttsa
alone. But when this happened, that was when I just had to say
something that this was that this was just a little bit
bizarre. So the question mark, is what has happened. And since
2019, October, to be exact, I followed the story, I've hit up
the US Army combat capabilities development command, or the
ground vehicle System Center, the GVS. C is the acronym and
ask them what is going on, like, taxpayer money is going towards
this. So at what level do we get to know as taxpayers in the
general public What is going on? And for quite a long time,
there's no update, no Update, I'm sorry, there's no movement,
then COVID happened? No, nothing, you know, with COVID,
and so on, and so forth. So I kept, I kept at it, kept filing
requests, so on and so forth. And finally got some documents.
Now, you can see here, this was an internal document for the
media and public affairs activity, very similar to NASA
that they send out these weekly internal updates, and so on. And
this was in part of the data batch that I'm that I'm going to
publish next week. I'm not hiding anything from you guys.
It's just would be way too long to go over everything. So I'll
publish everything next week. But just to kind of give you
guys an idea, this was the internal communication. It was
kind of neat to see that I was near the top here. In early
March, A writer for the black vault contacted GVSU public
affairs seeking an update on the work with to the stars Academy
and the crater we shared with them. At the request of the do
DS task force that was set up to work the various UFO related
topics, we contacted that task force as public affairs officer
to shift the query into their hands on May 5, no further
details at this time status awaiting confirmation from do
the task force of receipt of query. Here's what's interesting
about this is have you figured out who that would be. And it
looks like now the United States Army. In addition to all of the
other agencies that has enlisted the help of Susan Goff has now
done so themselves. And in regards to this crater with to
the stars Academy, internally, they were saying to the UAP
taskforce, and Susan golf, that apparently they're kind of
keeping abreast of all of this and that they're involved as
well. I was surprised to see that because no one ever told me
that my inquiry about the credo with the United States Army was
going back to the Department of Defense in likely Susan Gough's
office, because she would be the PA o for the UAP Task Force.
What was also interesting is why is the UAP Task Force involved.
So now that concern that I had stated a couple years ago that
you were walking back these pieces, I see this as now that
those test results that were that were per the contract going
to be shared with the United States Army in exchange for use
of their equipment. So ttsa could essentially figure out
what they have
is going to the UAP taskforce. So it has broadened widely from
that agreement that it was just going to be the GSC or sharing
within the US Army. Now it's going to the task force, which
works with pretty much every government agency. And so that
is that concern, that although on the surface, that crater
looked fun and good and dandy. You can see behind the scenes
here, it has broadened and the fact that I wasn't aware that my
stuff was going over to likely Susan golf. It showed me that a
lot of roads now, even though we already knew that more roads are
leading to the office of Susan golf who essentially is
controlling the narrative but but seemingly, it's broadening
and broadening to areas that in my opinion, it shouldn't. So
when I started asking about the updates, you know, where their
reports and so on. Internally, they were trying to figure out
where they're now what I was told months ago Was know that
there was no update. But keep in mind public affairs officers
aren't always in tune with what's, you know, essentially,
really taking place or unfolding. Why? Because if
there's something that's ongoing, or it hasn't reached
their office yet, or there's a multitude of reasons, I mean,
they do have a lot of access, more access than what most
people realize. However, the public affairs officers, still
sometimes can miss things. So I already had cases filed to
search internally for the documents on either
communications with ttsa, the reports that were generated,
what was going on. And you can see here on May 5, somebody's
all the blackout redactions. Those are all exemption B six,
that's Privacy Information. So those are people, their personal
information, award names, mostly names that are blacked out,
because they do keep that private. This was sent to again,
to the gpsc. Another person who is in charge of the crater, can
you provide me an update on the attached credit? It is? Is it
still active? And have you received any reports from the
company, the batch of documents that I'll post next week,
there's a bunch of back and forth, nothing really of note,
other than it was just kind of getting passed around. Finally,
from what I could deduce about it, this was the person that was
essentially in charge of that credit agreement. And they said
no, redacted is planning to obtain more samples. Now, that's
pretty straightforward. shortened to the point, but why
is it important? Who's obtaining more samples? I would assume
ttsa. The fact that this redaction is so small, I'm I, I
rarely do it, where you measure characters and go, Well, what
could that be? I'm not really sure. It could be the initials.
I'm open to suggestions here. But it was so small that I
figured that maybe they had just a, you know, code, word or
letter, you know, to reference the credo agreement, I'm not
really sure. But it could have been referencing ttsa, I took it
as that ttsa is not doing anything, because they're trying
to obtain more samples. Why that wouldn't pertain to the United
States Army, or GVC, is because they're not supplying any
material. They're supplying the equipment. So there's really
kind of only one person or entity that could be, which
would be ttsa. So in May of this year, nothing has happened.
Nothing. Now, I will absolutely 100% be fair, and say we're
dealing with a pandemic. So I get it, you know, things can
happen. However, there have been times where I believe, and this
is what I'm still working on in the story, that they could have
done their testing, and yet nothing has happened. Now I
spoke with ttsa. And I'll get to that in a moment. Why if if my
interpretation of that is correct. And again, I'm open to
other interpretations of who is collecting more samples. But I
think it's obvious. What you're seeing on the screen here is a
slide from a October of 2018. Presentation given by Luis
Elizondo, and these were at the time, so that's 2018, the pieces
of material connected to uaps. in some form or another. Some of
these are known that that you can dig into each image. I think
the majority of them are, I've heard one or two some people
couldn't figure out I, to be honest with you. It's been a
while since since I really dug into each and every image. I
will say that I've I've known about some of these, this, this
particular one that we point on the right screen. This
particular one obviously Linda Moulton Howe, was on this this
channel quite some time ago giving the very detailed
breakdown about this piece and what its significance is. This
one here you'll recognize from a television show that I produced
many years ago from the History Channel. And I actually profiled
this piece not only on UFO hunters, if you were a fan of
that show, it was in season three, but I also introduced it
to the television audiences in a documentary and produced also
for History Channel, also called UFO hunters, but not connected
to the Bill Burns series, which came quite a long time later,
UFO hunters was just the name of the documentary that we had done
and we were profiling people. Instead of essentially a case or
something like that it was a fun show to do. But this particular
piece we profiled there are a couple other ones I've dealt
with on and off. But regardless, these are the the pieces that
that were shown that Luis Elizondo said in his lecture.
These are actual photographs of material in our possession. So
they at least have this many I count probably 12. Within here,
not sure if you want to count these as more than one. But
regardless, 12 pieces to test. If you have 12 pieces that are
connected to uaps, why wouldn't you do it? And I'm not really
sure. So I wanted to make sure that I was understanding the
story correctly, and the documents and the history,
followed it for a couple years, and I want to make sure I'm
accurate. So I reached out to ttsa. To my surprise, they
responded, and to their credit, so I want to, you know, give
them a public thanks for that, because for quite a long time,
they would not respond at all. And so you'll see a lot of older
articles, you know, contacted ttsa, no response contacted
ttsa. They didn't respond. They did here. But it didn't add
much. Thank you for your inquiry. In this regard, we must
refer you to our SEC filings press release on our website and
other public disclosures regarding the crater, we're not
able to make any additional information available at this
time, no links, no references to what they're talking about. No
nothing. So I was back to essentially scrounging through
their SEC filings and trying to figure out what they meant the
best that I could deduce, because I went through
everything that I could find, the best that I could deduce was
what they were referring to was this a transcript from the 2021
meeting that they had for shareholders. So this particular
story I'm working on is probably not going to be a surprise to
shareholders, that they haven't done anything, because what they
said here, specifically Tom DeLonge, CEO of the company, as
announced earlier in 2019, we entered into a collaboration
agreement with the US Army.
This was the continuation and next step of our atom project to
analyze and advance our understanding of the collected
exotic materials. The scope of the army agreement covered
metamaterial science, advanced communications, vehicle
camouflage and beam energy propulsion. This contract spans
five years, given the army, giving the army access to ttsa
data to support Army Research, in return ttsa gains access to
scientific expertise that accelerates the quality and pace
of our research. We kicked off this partnership in early 2020,
with excitement, hosting the principal officers in the US
Army at our headquarters in San Diego. Unfortunately, shortly
thereafter, the pandemic took over and all operations
affiliated with our project, were closed due to safety
concerns are redirected to focus on other government priorities
concerning the national state of emergency. As there seems to be
light on the horizon, to the end of the health crisis, I am
confident we will have some interesting progress to report
as the year progresses. So I want to make sure that I put
that in there that and that's an acceptable explanation that it's
COVID. You know, I mean, COVID, shut everything down. The last
piece of the puzzle, and I don't have an answer for you guys yet.
I'm hoping to get that Monday is you'll see internally, that the
GVC never made reference to the fact that they were closed, or
that the facilities were shut down. Or that there is nothing
to report because the of COVID. It was because what we can I
hate to word use the word assume, but let's call it deduce
from the documents, that it's ttsa that's trying to get more
samples. Again, I'm open to other interpretations from that.
I just don't see it. So what are they waiting for going back to
that slide? With all of the pieces that they have granted?
11 out of the 12 may be absolutely nothing but what if
they have something their facilities are there? And
internally the GVS? He says yeah, there, you know, there's
nothing here, still active, but nothing here, because they're
going for more material. So what that means, I'll let you guys
decide. That last piece of the puzzle why I didn't publish
Friday was what is the army going to say? If they come back
to me and say, you know, the the facilities have been shut down
for a year and a half. I'll absolutely publish that. That's
not a problem. I'm giving you guys all the information that I
have at this point on this with the open ended question of you
know what's going on like, why? If you guys are sitting on let's
put it this way, if you guys are sitting on potentially the
biggest Discovery of mankind, right? You've got pieces of
potentially alien spacecraft. I get it COVID as a huge concern.
But we are living our daily lives We are, we are going
forward, we are moving forward. So if they are not locked down
and internally, they're saying nothing about being closed. What
is the holdup and we keep seeing stuff about entertainment, the
entertainment division. And there's so many entertainment
projects in development and in production and which is great,
all my best wishes. But that means that they're working on
stuff. So if the army is open, I would think that potentially
alien pieces of something would be the best stuff that you could
work on. But that's just me. But that is kind of the update. And
we'll see what happens next week, I'll publish the rest of
it. Here's the last story and then we'll open up the lines.
The last story was somewhat UFO related, the documents ended up
not being even though it was about Bob vzaar of the area 51
fame. Starting about two, three years ago, I started going after
FBI files on united nuclear, that's his company that he is
the owner of and still in operation today. I'm a science
geek, there's some really cool stuff, I'm not gonna lie on his
website. If for all you area 51, Bob has our fans. He's got some
area 51 signed posters and stuff like that, that you can
purchase. But also a lot of science, you know, stuff like
that. And so he runs this company. And to my surprise,
there was, you know, quite a hefty FBI file. And even though
I know, Bob was in trouble with the law, and I knew that united
nuclear at one time, got in trouble with the law, or at
least one that I could think of, I was surprised that there was
this kind of wide spanning file. So I had rounded down the file
just because it would take about six years to get literally that
was the estimate. So I rounded it down to a couple of key
years. And that's what I published. Why I wanted to point
this out is that the motivation for this was the 2017 raid of
United nuclear, which was outlined in Jeremy core bells,
documentary, it was very much framed that the FBI slash police
were going in there and storming, essentially looking
for element 115. That was the secret alien fuel that Bob has
are had smuggled out of area 51 and kept somewhere. I know that
there's a lecture by George Knapp, who said that Bob had
taken it out to some place in the desert, and buried it. And
that George knew, at least at one point where it was, again,
it's that question of if you if you're sitting on the key to the
universe here, you know, why would we just sit on it and just
continue to hound on lazaros? education? I mean, blow this
thing wide open. But regardless, there was no records. Now
there's, there's a little bit of confusion. So I want to clarify,
I saw it on Twitter, that the 2017 raid away from element 115
was connected to a murder. That's That's true. I won't get
into the legal gritty details of that. But if you look at the
article that I published on the lazaar FBI files, I link over to
another article that was written by Tim McMillan that obtained
the original like two page summary from the police
department on the case. The confusion was, well, there
wouldn't be anything in United nucleus file, because that was
in regards to another murder investigation. Let me say up
front, I'm not making a conspiracy out of the fact that
there's no 2017 era files and united nuclear. I find it
interesting and intriguing. But I'm still pursuing that angle
and trying to get other documents. But where I wanted to
clarify, because this was a question that was brought up,
was that if it was tied to a murder investigation wouldn't be
in United nucleus file. And that it's no surprise it didn't come
up. For those who dabble in the foyer or want to, there is
something really key to requesting files through the
Privacy Act or Freedom of Information Act with the FBI. A
lot of people overlook this. I did for many years. So I'm
passing it on to you guys. You add in there that you want to
make sure that you're getting what are called cross references
to the topic of your request. So whether that be on united
nuclear, or Microsoft or Marilyn Monroe, or whomever or whatever
you are requesting when you request cross references, what
they do is they search for files also, that connect to and cross
reference the topic of your request in regards to United
nuclear. That is what I did. And so the responsive records over
the course of a couple years that I was negotiating with the
FBI and
well, let me rephrase that the negotiation was much shorter,
but the case has been going on for a couple of years. The
negotiation then was trying to figure out out of the responsive
material that they received, and found, which totaled about 1000
to 1100 pages, approximately, there was nothing in the 2000
timeframe. Now per my request, cross references should have
come up. They did not. So I'm still pursuing it. And again,
not trying to make a conspiracy out of it. But for those who are
interested in using that, make sure you use language that
includes cross references. Because if you don't, like I
said, they'll just go to that central file, and then they
won't won't give you anything. So add in that language is where
I'm going with that. And for many years, I was I was not not
aware of that. Jet. Boy, 33, you've been a longtime supporter
of this channel. And me, thank you so much for obviously
joining us in the chat and your support for the channel. So
thank you, thank you for that donation. So that is, did have
another slide. This was the email, the communication back in
2019, that showed that they the responsive records had nothing
concerning the FBI involvement in a police raid in 2017. So
again, still pursuing that I don't find it a huge, gigantic
conspiracy, but it's something of note, nonetheless. So let me
switch some graphics here. Let me go ahead and put the
telephone number on screen Macross my fingers, everything
works, right? If it doesn't, I'm gonna pull the comments back up
here. Let me know, if you can't get through on the phone, let me
know, I would really appreciate that. Let me see some of the
comments here. And pull up some of these as we wait for some
phone calls. Lucy, and thank you so much, you might want to post
a how to how to do file a foyer with tips. That is something
that is really requested. And I really need to buckle down and
do it. It sounds more complicated than it is. But
there's a lot of tips to go along with it. And I know that I
should do that and want to do that. So thank you for that
suggestion. I wanted to highlight it because that is
something that I feel we should definitely do Dolan's bar, thank
you so much for that. I was looking at the graphic on there
trying to maybe an Irish pub, maybe by the logo there very
cool Dolan's bar, thank you for that really, really appreciate
it. artists and Tony, can you? Or do you have a video on the
FOIA process? Very cool. appreciate you asking as well.
Yes, you know what, I really need to do that for you guys.
So, you know, thank you for the suggestion. And and I'm and I'm
happy to do it. And we'll do it live too. So that way, you know,
I can feel questions. So let me kind of buckle down and make a
presentation. So that way I can give you guys a good overview.
And, and kind of go with it. What I will say about FOIA
because it looks like a lot of people want to want to use it in
here, which is so encouraging to me. One thing that I always want
to say is you can never stop learning about the FOIA process.
I mean, there's something really, really sorry, I'm
switching something here. There's something really
simplistic, but also really complicated about the process.
And that you can dive into it and really get going right away.
But in the same respect, you can learn things all the time. And
and that's that's something that I always pass on that. In my
opinion. There's never there's never a FOIA expert. There's no
such thing, because after 25 years, I'm learning all the
time. So let me go to the phones here. I just had to reset
something. So I'm hoping everything's working. Well.
You're Live on the Air. Who's this? Hey, john, it's JT JT with
the hawk. How are you, buddy? Good. I'm doing good batter
getting it done. I love the fact that you did that. Thank you so
much. For those who don't know, I met JT. Out of all the hours
of radio I've done it was just such a great phone call. And
you're a truck driver JT and you gave the honk at the end to
Jimmy church and myself. There was just something so genuinely
cool about you as a person and your call and and I'm so glad
that we became friends after that. So, so thanks. So thank
you. Absolutely. So So what What can I do for you? You got a
comment, question, toots.
Unknown: question Do you have any? I got two questions real
quick ones. You have any any insight on the Senate
Intelligence Appropriation Bill, what that's been a food for the
next session of the UAP passports or dollar wise or
dates like yearly quarterly reports or anything like that?
Yeah. So
John Greenewald: I briefly went over that in the beginning of
the show and and what what I profiled was the Air Force
involvement. However, the I think that there's, there's a
much bigger video to this. But in short, it looks like if
everything goes forward, and if everything passes as it's
written now, it looks like there will be I believe it's quarterly
reports, I don't have it in front of me. But as it stands
right now, there will be reports that are submitted. So
essentially, it's more funding and, and more, more informing of
Congress and senate of what is going on. But the where I'm
apprehensive to say that that's going to happen is that they're
so in their preliminary stages at this point, that we just
don't know that we we don't know what is essentially going to be
passed and what what makes it through. So there was a lot of
concern with the 2021 bill that that UAP essentially mandate for
the report would maybe fall out. Luckily, it didn't. So, you
know, it's the long winded way of saying things are working,
things are progressing. But it still has a long way to pass.
For those who don't know, and I don't have his Twitter handle in
front of me, but you can search for his name. D Dean Johnson has
really done an excellent job following the progression of
these bills, did it in 2021. And he's doing it again in 2022. It
is a very confusing and complicated process. But Dean
does an excellent job at kind of making these tweet threads and
making it make sense. So after the show, I'll link it in the
show notes. So that way, people can have a direct link, but but
make sure you just search for D. Dean Johnson, and he's
definitely following the progression as well.
Unknown: All right, thanks for that, man. Real quick on Luis
Elizondo. I mean, they seem like that whole ever since, like a
after a couple weeks after the report came out, and they've
been very quiet. Now. You may have had personal contact with
him or whatever. But it seems like that all dried up all the
leaks that now dried up. Everything's dried up. Yeah.
Like flip the switch off. Just wanted your opinion on that. No,
you have any insight you could give us on that?
John Greenewald: I wish I had insight. I've noticed the same.
I have not communicated with Mr. Elizondo. And a little bit. I
did send him a message this week about the credo agreement. That
was more so as a courtesy, I don't think he can comment on
it. Just simply because he's according to what he has said
publicly, not affiliated with ttsa anymore. But I also like to
keep them updated and stuff like that. If he cares. I didn't hear
back from him. So I don't know. You know, what's going on. But
to your question about a lot of stuff seemingly just drying up.
Yeah, that's, that's really, you know, I commented on the media
part of it. But really, with the momentum of those, we'll call
them leaks and stuff like that surfacing from Jeremy korbel.
And George Knapp. And, you know, Luis Elizondo is never leaked,
anything that I'm aware of. That's tagged to him. But it
just seems like all of that has stopped. And and either switch.
Yeah. Met now. Hopefully, maybe this is the calm before the
storm. JT, who knows? we'll wake up on Monday morning. And, you
know, we'll have a triangle UFO video coming out of the water? I
don't know. But yeah, I I don't know what to what to make of it.
You know, I really don't. With the with the government side.
I'm curious to know, after that report was published, it was
said by the DNI that 90 days thereafter, they were set to
update Congress again. Now, the question mark, for me, that
nobody's really addressed. Is will that be public at all? Is
it even a report? You know, I mean, we don't know. And I think
a lot of people had some false hope. Like, all right, we're
getting another report 90 days. There's no indication of that.
So moving forward, I think we're really going to Have to allow
that process to unfold, which will then set the stage for the
years to come. Because if they start closing the door on all of
that, I think there's a Fat chance that we will, you know,
get absolutely nothing when it comes to uaps. And they'll try
and keep a tight lid on it. From here on out. Very well.
Unknown: Yeah, I appreciate you let me get in on a call and all
the hard work you do and all the little surprises, they get mail
from us like, wow, okay. I mean, that takes a lot of effort and
time on your part doesn't seem like much maybe for one person.
But you know, you're doing that for everybody. That's pretty
cool. Well, I
John Greenewald: appreciate that.
Unknown: Anyway, so I just want to say hello to all the bald
heads as I call them bald heads. Yep. And numbers. 624 to 26.
Everybody, God bless you and take it easy. Have a good
weekend. And thank you, john. And this is for all the ball
heads out there. And
John Greenewald: I love it. JT, thank you so much, man. You call
in any time?
Unknown: Yeah, it's very rare that I get a chance to calling
because because of my weird schedule. You know, you just
happen to hit it right on and I thank you.
John Greenewald: Well, I'm glad I did. Thanks again. Man. You
have a great day. Be safe out there on the roads too. And have
a great night. All right. Thank you. Thanks, john. Such a great
guy really is cool. So I appreciate that vault heads.
That's a new one. So I wrote that down mobile will will have
to credit JT for the vault heads. So Matthew Riot didn't
want you to think I missed you there. Thank you so much. Yes,
the back hurts. Come do some dabs. Buddy. My back hurts. For
those who missed it. I did something to my back so I can
barely move. So I I appreciate that. Matthew, I might take you
up on it. I really enjoy. Oh, let me see if I get this. pop it
up. Pop Up pop up. Judy, I see your so sorry. I don't know why
it's not popping up. Okay, Judy McAuliffe for I don't know why
it's not popping up. So I apologize. I really enjoy all
you do plus your Hollywood ventures. Judy, thank you for
that. I'm sorry, I would put your name and lights on there.
And I'm clicking on it. And it's just not going on there. So I
don't know why. But I appreciate it. g d that one pops up. So
Judy, I do apologize about that. Is it possible some army
analysis of samples has occurred but results are not ready to
release yet? Absolutely. That is a possibility. What I that was
my intention to reach out to ttsa. Because the documents I
got were from May. So a lot has happened since then. However, by
them pointing me to their meeting minutes and press
releases. There was no press release on anything. And the
meeting minutes has obviously blamed COVID. I'm totally open
though to that. And that's why when and I don't want to just
pick on ttsa here. But when you write a story, and you want to
be as accurate as possible, speaking in vagueness and not
being helpful with like, How hard would it have been to give
me the same exact statement with a link to something like, Hey,
we can't really add anything to this. But here's our minutes, or
here's our press release that we think you should look at or
something. And instead you just go Yeah, sorry, we can't add
anything. Here's 12,000 pages to look through. So you know,
figure it out. That that makes it really difficult, you know,
and when somebody is trying to genuinely be as accurate as
possible, and give you guys all of the the information that
would have been helpful. Is there something that they just
haven't released yet? Quite possibly, but again, internally
at the army, it just seemed like nothing was nothing was going
on. And that was also the official statement as well, that
there was absolutely, you know, nothing there. So that's what's
kind of frustrating about it. Let me see one more. Nick
northcutt. Thank you for that. We need more people like you
pushing this issue on our leaders. We deserve to know
where they stand. Cheers, Nick, cheers to you. Thank you for
that support. Absolutely. We need more. Here's a shout out to
my friends over at the unidentified celebrity review
and Luis Jimenez. Michael matter loony rather be squinting. I
don't know if you guys are in the chat. I'm not really doing a
good job keeping up on all this. But if you guys are out there,
they are doing the big phone home. This is the big phone home
too. And they are pushing the elected leaders to do something
about this. Now I rarely get behind ventures like that. But
after a meeting Louie's meeting Michael meeting rather meet and
those are the three main main individuals. There's a lot of
other people involved, please I know that I'm not naming
everybody, but spearheaded by by those three gentlemen. They're
doing an awesome job and they did one earlier this year. It's
the big phone home.com is how to get to their website. They've
got a great and entertaining show on YouTube that I would
check out. But they do a great job. They've got a lot of
passion behind what they do. And they're pushing their elected
leaders to do something about this, you know, and to figure it
out. So that's what they that's what they are up to. And I want
to make sure that you guys check that out as well. Let me see
anonymous Rex, any thoughts on the 2019 Bainbridge Island Tic
Tac case now being highlighted on the new show? encounter UFO?
So let me see. I and I'm surprised this hasn't come up
yet. I assume by by the
by the show. UFO you're talking about the Showtime one. I'm
trying to think the Bainbridge Island Tic Tac case now being
highlighted on the new show encounter UFO, actually, then
let me rephrase that no encounter UFO. I'm not sure what
anonymous Rex, which show that is the Bainbridge though. I
believe that I've heard someone to I don't want to speak out of
turn here. But I believe I've heard somebody talk about this
publicly. So if it wound up in a television show, that's good. I
believe I have an open request on that. And and looking into
it. So I will have to check my records on it and see what's out
there public. But But obviously, on a television show. I'm just
not sure which encounter UFO that show is. So if you can put
it in the show is on. Okay, so I'm going through the comments
The show is on t and e, t and e t and e. Sorry, I don't know
what t n e is probably just going to draw a blank. But let
me know. And I'll try and keep a watch on the you know, watch on
the comments for you. But I'm not familiar with the show
encounter UFO isotope ratio data would only take a day at most to
generate I smell a rat, bow. Thank you for that donation.
This is the thing about isotopic ratio. And I dealt a lot with it
on the on the History Channel show where I profiled what is
now in the hands of ttsa. And it is number one very expensive.
But number two, there's not a whole lot of places that can do
it. And you're absolutely right. The places that can which I
assume would be the United States Army, which I assume is
why they're doing this agreement could probably come up with very
fascinating results very quickly. And that goes back to
my comment that if you're doing your television production or
your movies, through ttss Entertainment division, that's
great. I truly I've always wished Tom DeLonge him being a
successful entrepreneur luck, and what my best wishes for
those ventures. There's nothing bad I can say about it. However,
when I talk about their analysis and credo agreement, if you're
doing the entertainment division, why would you not just
take a little bit of time to go and get those answers? They
could probably be determined very quickly. And that's that's
what I don't understand, and they're not doing it. So that
said, you have a great point, I wish I had a better answer for
you. I wish ttsa would open up to their investors, their
investors, I think deserve an answer. And per their investors
in the meeting minutes that they gave to all of their investors,
they fell back on the COVID excuse now that I don't want to
diminish that that is something that's very important and
something that has altered all of our lives. But again, you
can't in one breath, say, you know, we're doing all this
entertainment stuff. And we're in production on X, Y and Z. And
then blame COVID for not doing the tests. If the army comes
back to me on Monday and says, Yeah, we've been shut down for a
year and a half. Great, I will absolutely publish that and say
this is where we're at. But internally, those documents did
not produce any evidence that they were that they were shut
down. And if ttsa was able to communicate with more
statements, maybe we can get some clarity. Let me hit the
phones again. Who's this? This is a Jamie Moore from Kentucky.
Hey there. How are you?
Unknown: doing? Well. I just have a quick question for you. I
was wondering, what do you think about how you must shed and the
validity of his story? If you're familiar with him?
John Greenewald: If I'm familiar with who again? Hi, Michelle.
The Israeli Yes, yes, sir. Yes, I'm sorry. I didn't catch it.
You're referring to Yes. Familiar With the story, but yes
familiar
Unknown: to me if you've done any research into that, you
know, it kind of get your opinion on it. Yeah,
John Greenewald: no, and I appreciate the question I, it
really reminds me of like a story like Paul hellyer, who
recently passed away here in the last week or two, where a
government official or somebody that seemingly connected comes
out with a story, but doesn't bring a whole lot of evidence
with them. Now, that doesn't take away from the story. But
it's very hard to verify information like that. And I
think with with this particular case, with the late Paul
hellyer, in quite a few doing the same, it's very hard. And so
for me, I'm very much very much a nuts and bolts, I need
evidence kind of guy. And if somebody comes to me with a
story, I need that kind of hard evidence to go along with it.
And I'll be it is very interesting and intriguing. And
I thought I'd try and follow you know, developments like that
there's not a lot you can do with it.
Unknown: Anybody to kind of he said there's connecting with
American astronauts, then we're gonna get a list of astronauts
that are still here on Earth.
John Greenewald: Well, that yeah, that the the astronaut
angle to a lot of this is is also very intriguing to me. I
have spent time with with quite a few astronauts I was raised,
where my dad worked on the space shuttle, I got to meet quite a
few. When it comes to like their UFO encounters. What makes it
really muddy when you get to astronaut encounters, is that a
lot of the stories are embellished and have kind of
taken on a life of its own prime example, when I first started
the black vault back in 96, I had written Neil Armstrong. And
it was based on all of the photographs of him on the
surface of the moon and really kind of well known in the UFO
field, where there's like a ring of light above him. And the
story was that Neil Armstrong saw things on the crater edge. I
don't know if you're familiar with those stories, but those
have circulated for years and years and years. And and Neil
Armstrong's administrative aide actually wrote me back and and
apparently asked, at least as the, the letter goes, asked Neil
Armstrong about my my question. And he said, none of it was
true, all of those stories were were bunk. And so that's what
kind of makes it really challenging unless you get an
astronaut, you know, on the record talking about UFOs, which
some have done, but at least that, that to me, there's
usually photographs or videos to go along with it, you know,
where you have things that are seen on space shuttle missions,
and so on and so forth. So you have that to back it up. But
those those in itself are very challenging. You know, it's,
it's, it's really hard to verify stories like that. Alright, I
guess that's about it. I gotta get back to work. I appreciate
that. You're just one. Yeah, I don't know if I answered your
question. Good enough, but I appreciate the question
nonetheless. Absolutely. Thank you. Alright, thanks for that
call bow. Again, thank you so much for your, your support.
Here, I spent 40 years doing mass spectroscopy is I believe,
the short form there. It's cheap and easy. If you have the
equipment, many labs have the equipment. So mass, okay, so
this goes also to it. And you're going to be smarter than the me
on this. And so maybe I'm using the wrong terminology. But what
I can say is that when we were doing those shows on science, we
did quite a few when it came to UFO testing and stuff like that.
The spectroscopy was not the expensive part, the isotopic
ratio, abundance test, if I remember correctly, and I'm
going back years, in this very old brain of mine member, I
injured my back. So I think I'm falling apart. But the the
isotopic ratio abundance test was the expensive one. And
although this wasn't, you know, yesterday, when we were doing
it, it was a few years ago, quite a few, maybe eight now,
maybe eight or nine. It was very, very expensive. Now, I
assume in eight or nine years, it's gotten a lot less
expensive, more prevalent, and so on. So again, you you have
excellent points, I just wanted to differentiate with my
admitted ignorance on all of the terminology there. That's what I
my experience was eight or nine years ago trying to get the same
as well. So but Bo, you bring up excellent points. I truly I
you're sitting on the key to the universe, I'll say it 1000
times, why don't you just go and get the test done and figure out
what's going on? Why not? It's beyond me. So let's go to the
phones. Who's this?
Unknown: Good evening. Mr. Greenwald is Rob from floor
Thank you very much for taking my call. You're very welcome.
Thank
John Greenewald: you. Thank you for calling. What can I do for
you?
Unknown: You got it. It's such a pleasure to speak to you. I've
been following your work for years. Don't change a thing and
carry on. I appreciate your objectivity. And the way that
you try to vet the evidence. The question for you I have I'd like
to refer to the chapter in the Air Force Academy physics
textbook that was used on our about 68 through 70, which I'm
sure you're familiar with that? Yes. Okay. How has that been
authenticated? I know Lee Spiegel got it from state and he
received it from Dr. Hynek and Dr. Hynek said it was used in
the textbook. Do you know of anybody that's actually held
that textbook in their hands and seen that chapter and I'm not
trying to doubt its authenticity? But that would be
a very valuable authentication? Because that's a pretty
important document.
John Greenewald: Yeah. Off the top of my head, it is a
fantastic question. I don't know. I don't I don't have
personal. I don't have a personal reason to doubt the
authenticity either. But in the same respect, no, I if memory
serves, and I'll have to look back years and years ago, I
tried to track one down via FOIA. You know, a lot of those
things, you can get texture ups, and so on and so forth and came
up empty. But the problem with textbooks like that is sometimes
they're not not saved, like normal government reports or
records. So it was kind of like a dead end. But it was a dead
end. That didn't really mean anything. But I'll have to look
back and get you a better answer on that. But in regards to
somebody physically holding that textbook, off the top of my
head, no, I just know the stories of how you just put it.
Leigh Spiegel through J. Allen Hynek and going back, you know,
what is that? 5060 years? It's a long time, you know, a long time
ago. So yeah, no, I wish I had a better answer for you. I just am
not aware.
Unknown: In your opinion, has it been authenticated to your
satisfaction?
John Greenewald: That particular document? Again, I just don't
have any reason to doubt it. I don't. You know, it's not like
an mj 12 controversial document, Dr. J. Allen Hynek, you know,
was was obviously very careful with I think things he put his
name behind. So yeah, from what I recall, and I'll look back, I
just don't think of anything that stuck out to me is saying,
Now this, this can't be, you know, can't be real.
Unknown: You know, when you read that document, it's interesting
what it does not say, and what it does not say is, you know,
Air Force students pay no attention to this. We studied
it. There's nothing there. You're going to get Don't waste
your time and resources on it. You know, it doesn't say that.
Yeah, exactly. It goes into quite detail, saying that they
think maybe perhaps three or four civilizations or could be
visiting, you know, it's couched and could be using maybes.
However, you know, they do make statements, and they're,
they're, they're quite alarming.
John Greenewald: Yeah, it's been a while since I've looked at it.
But But yeah, I recall, seeing stuff like that. That's why I
think the context of the entire book and physically holding the
entire thing in your hand would be key to see exactly, you know,
what was the context of what they were saying. You know, a
lot of times I use this as a silly example, but it's a good
example, nonetheless, that the context of the information in a
document is key. And sometimes you lose that context. And the
example I give is a, a preparedness plan for a zombie
apocalypse. And as silly as that sounds, it exists. And there
were classified versions and references to it. It's called
con plan 8888. And I've had it on the black Vault for years.
Now out of context, I tell you that and go look that they're
preparing just on the off chance, there's zombie
apocalypse, they've prepared for it. There's this preparedness
plan. All of that is true. The context, however, is that it was
actually a training manual on how to create these preparedness
plans. And the zombie apocalypse was chosen, because it was the
most generic and unlikely thing ever to happen. And so it wasn't
leaning towards, you know, Hurricane destruction or a
massive earthquake that was just generic. And so they made this
preparedness plan. So out of context, you know, things can
can absolutely be skewed a certain way. I'm not saying that
happened with this Air Force manual. I'm just saying that,
you know, context is always key. So was this something that they
were truly teaching their students was this, you know,
something else? I don't, I don't know. But in regards to
legitimacy, I I just have not seen anything to show that it
was a fake.
Unknown: That's that's been my my conclusion as well. And, you
know, perhaps you can ask David MARLAR? I mean, if anybody on
it, no, it would be him or have a copy. I mean, he's got a copy
of everything else, it seems like,
John Greenewald: Yeah, he he's got an amazing collection, I got
to see it in person quite a few years ago, when I was doing a
lecture and got to go to his home. And, you know, which David
will be on this channel here in the next few weeks. So stay
tuned for that. He's a great individual, but his collection
is unmatched. I mean, it is unbelievable what he has, and I
give him so much credit for taking the time to collect
everything. So I wrote it down while you were saying that,
because I'll ask him about it. And and specifically about that
manual and see, did he find one in his, in his truck to collect
everything known to man when it comes to UFOs? Or if he knows,
but I'll write that down? Or I've written down and I'll, I'll
ask him?
Unknown: Oh, that's great. Well, I'm currently my wife and I are
currently touring the United States. And he has one stop on
our tour, I want to make a donation to his reference
library there and visit with him. So I'm really looking
forward to that. And but, you know, I'm not surprised if
somebody doesn't have a copy of that textbook, because as an
internal matter, and you know, they got rid of it after about
1970 or so. So they probably all got destroyed. But, you know,
there may be one or two somewhere out in a used
bookstore. So yeah, that's
John Greenewald: the use bookstores that are amazing.
I've told the story a couple times, but it's like Rob Mercer
finding old Project bluebook books and reports and stuff in
in a garage, like on Craigslist that was found in somebody's
garage. You never know where you find this stuff. But yeah, great
question. And I'll make sure that I asked Dave about it.
Unknown: And I'll wrap up by saying, Well, you know, that's
interesting, because David MARLAR got some original photos
of the LA, the La Banda logo in 1942. Those came from a garage
sale from the AP photographer. I mean, that is a fantastic story.
John Greenewald: Yeah, I love I'm telling you that I geek out
about stories like that. Very, very cool. Yeah,
Unknown: me too. Well, thank you so much. And it's been a real
pleasure to talk to you. Awesome. You as
John Greenewald: well. Thanks for calling call anytime. Yes,
sir. You bet. Thank you. All right, couple. Let me see here a
couple super chats to get to here. And thank you for all of
this. Oliver dro. JOHN ever read this interesting, they offer a
reason for alien waves every 20 years or so the name of the
article is inflation theory implications for
extraterrestrial visitation. link in the chat. Oh, Oliver,
thank you for the link, I will definitely look it up off the
top of my head. That doesn't sound familiar. So I will
definitely do that and see what's in that document. So
thank you for that. And thank you for the support of the
channel. A couple more to get to here. And then we'll go back to
the phones. g d, again, thank you, not just ISIS, tope
analysis that is of interest, the structure of the sample is
also of interest, Eg three micron business layer and its
properties. Absolutely. Yeah, you're you're spot on. And And
again, that's science that's out of my realm. So I won't even
pretend to give you an eloquent answer. Other than we need those
answers, you know why they're not doing it? I'm not really
sure. JOHN Francoise and I'm gonna botch the last name, so
I'm not going to try. But john Francoise, thank you so much for
that. Really appreciate it. Obviously, from Canada, no
question. Just want to thank you for your work. Well, thank you
for your support. And I really do appreciate that support of
the channel. And myself. So so you're very, very welcome. But
thank you. Couple more here, and then we'll go back to the
phones, artists and Tony if foil only covers executive branch,
government, our FBI and CIA Doc's gotten. Tony, I'm not sure
exactly what you mean by that. So just a clarification, though,
executive branch when you get into the White House, you are
not covered through FOIA. That's through the Presidential Records
Act. And everything is exempt. Until the president comes out of
office. It gets trained all of his records, or through the
administration, for the most part. There are there. It gets
complicated. There are exceptions through the Executive
Office of the President that are open through FOIA. However, the
majority of all white house records, Presidential Records
are all through the Presidential Records Act, gets transferred
over to the National Archives, the National Archives, then
we'll run the library of the President. All of that stuff
goes transferred over there. And then then FOIA requests apply.
Our FBI and CIA Doc's gotten. Again, I'm not I'm not 100% sure
what you mean by that. So I apologize. Tony would try and
put it in the chat and I'll try and catch. Catch the
clarification. I'm happy to address it. I'm just not sure
what you mean. FBI though CIA. They're all open to foi
requests. I've hit all of them and 1000s of times over. Mahmud
II, thank you so much for that. Is it possible to get radar data
from the Nimitz encounter via FOIA? Without that, it seems all
we have to go on is witness testimony. Yeah, I know that.
People like Dave Beatty, who is a great researcher, been on this
program before, I don't want to speak on His behalf because I
don't want to screw anything up. But I know that he has gone
after the deck logs and radar data and stuff like that. And a
lot of stuff in cases like this. And even the later what we call
like the drone swarm encounters, the drone encounters is missing.
And it's just not there. So I don't want to say specifically
that the Dave has said that, because I don't want to speak
for him, but he would be the one to ask about that. But from what
I recall, know all of that is gone, according to testimony by
people from the Princeton that the tapes were taken, so all
sorts of stuff as is missing and not around. So let me make sure
I'm although I think I got everybody there. Make sure I
didn't miss anything. We go back to the phones. Who's this?
Unknown: JOHN, this is Pat from Philly, I'm your Barner the
Superjet.
John Greenewald: Hey there, how are you? I'm great, man. How are
you? I'm good. Thank you. And thank you for the thank you for
the support on every Yeah,
Unknown: no, no worries, buddy. So the reason why I'm calling is
number one. Thank you for everything you're doing. I think
you're excellent at what you do. You're, you're open minded and
skeptical of a lot of things. And I think you're probably the
most black and white and a level headed that I that I see in this
and I listen, I pay attention to this big time. Like I'm very,
very interested in it. But I want to know what your thoughts
were on why this ttsa split happened. And I'll give you my
theory afterwards.
John Greenewald: Sure. When you say split, you're talking about
Christopher Bella and Luis Elizondo breaking low. Yeah.
Steve justice as well, or are you just talking about the well,
all of it? I'd love to hear what you think. And the only reason I
ask is because I think there's different answers. I mean, I
think someone like Steve justice. And I'm surprised this
hasn't come up yet. Which I'm happy to address. But the
biggest heat I got of through the Showtime show that I did, I
would say the most controversial thing was I suppose that some of
these guys came together, potentially not for the sole
reason, but potentially with money as a motivating factor.
And with Steve, I don't want to say that that's exactly why he
did it. But I would say that with his departure, it's
indicative that some of these people that were involved in
ttsa, were probably looking at it as a job. And the original
vision of $50 million of raised capital that would turn and
balloon into something bigger and much more lucrative, was
probably appealing to at least a few of them as being a driving
factor. So, you know, as much as we all want to think it's all
about disclosure, and and all for the greater good. I think
money is a motivating factor with Steve Justice's departure,
I think. Yeah. You know, it's it's about supporting our
family. There's nothing wrong with that. In regards to to
Elizondo and Christopher Mellon leaving. I think that for me,
anyway, I I don't know. I think that there will be some other
project that they will be involved in some other efforts.
I don't know if that stems from that they disagreed, ultimately
with the way ttsa was run. I don't know I asked. Mr. Elizondo
when I interviewed him on this channel. This is back in
January, now that Remember that? Yeah, it it just unfolded. So he
was very apprehensive, which which is totally fair, but
apprehensive of answering. I don't know if anybody's asked
him on the 74 million interviews. He's done in the
last few months on that, so why do I personally think I think
there's going to be another venture. If I were to bet money.
I think the Tucker Carlson appearance where all of a sudden
we saw the sky fort, you know, blasted to everybody. What is
sky fort, you know, and like, that was obviously attributed to
Luis Elizondo. And so then I thought, Okay, this is it, you
know, that's the other organization that is what
they're talking about. But then that has kind of gone radio
silent for a little bit. So long winded way of saying, I think
it's Another project but what that project is, I'm not really
sure.
Unknown: Did you read the novels that ttsa put up? I did not.
Alright. So in it, there's other excellent reading, by the way,
there they go through quickly. Your page turner, they really
are. But in in the novels, it's basically like for four or five
different characters, it's split up, and you jump back and forth
and in the chapters between the point of view of each character,
and one of them, and it's basically revolved around the TR
three d project or the US government. And this is what I
think I know that this was like a couple of years ago when this
came out. But I know that Lou speaks on like, there's
absolutely no way that we have that technology. You know, it's
not in our it's not in our toolbox of the US military. And
I was always wondering if maybe there was some type of
disagreement when it came down to that.
John Greenewald: It there absolutely could be I mean, I, I
speak on nothing but opinion. But the upper echelon of ttsa,
for me, from from an outside point of view, seems drastically
different. And I'm sure there were riffs behind closed doors,
because when you look at the way Mr. Elizondo spoke in 2018, and
2019, his tone has shifted a little bit, but he was very nuts
and bolts back then he was very, you know, pretty much just more
hardcore evidence. You juxtapose that with Tom DeLonge. And
you've got a wildly different point of view, you know, then
you add in Christopher Mellon, who is from the position that he
is not only, you know, up with public life and his government
ties, but obviously being part of the Mellon family. Those are,
you know, you can't get across the spectrum, any, any better
than that. So I would be, and again, just based on opinion,
I'd be curious to hear some of those behind closed doors,
conversations about what the best direction for ttsa was,
because you have the head of the snake through, you know, however
many heads that snake has, but they're being told and way too
many directions there. So, yeah, I'm sure that there was a lot
more going on then than anyone was privy to.
Unknown: Two more things quickly. So I am fascinated with
all his long form interviews that he's been doing in the last
few months over the summer, Elizondo and speaking. I've
searched for them every day to see when any news up, new comes
up. And I could recall a couple before me notice that things
have gotten a lot more quiet in the last three weeks or so, with
Elizondo. But what I find really fascinating is the
acknowledgement of a lot of old cases that had been brought
around the UFO community, for instance, the the incident over
Texas, over Bush's Ranch, things like that. There's a there's an
incident off the coast of Puerto Rico. And Lou has spoke on some
of these numbers, I find it completely fascinating that,
that they're looking at that. And they're acknowledging that
they looked at that in the past, and as far as a tip or whatever
the the acronyms were at the time when he was looking at his
things. And but what my big question to you is, and I'd love
I mean, I don't think anybody really knows the answer to this.
But why now? Why is it all coming out? Now? Why is the push
for this coming out? Now? I mean, it's always been, you
know, from what we've gathered, and you know, you have your
fingertips or more information than anybody else in the
subject. It's always been walled off. Why, why is it opening up
now? What's your opinion on that? And I'll listen to it off
the air. Thank you for everything.
John Greenewald: And and thank you for that. I really
appreciate your phone call and your question. Why why now is a
is an amazing question that really I don't think anybody has
an answer to. There, there is obviously this very public push
for information. A lot of people were thinking that this was
disclosure, a lot of people thought this is, you know, this
is where we are. This is this is you know, where we're heading
where we're going to be in disclosure. And we're not
because with that public push with some people that were
government insiders, you then have a we'll call it the the
private that the the inside the government side that wants to
squash it all. And even though there was for me, the glimmer of
hope was when the US Navy in September of 2019 started going
on the record saying yes, we believe that these videos are
unidentified aerial phenomena. That to me, was a turning point
in my head that we were going towards something that may be
really fascinating. That door was shut not too long after they
are trying to squash this. So this why now question may
ultimately be that there is nothing going on that we're
appeasing the public push for information, saying, Hey, we
have a task force now, hey, we're looking into it, and so on
and so forth. So the public's like, Really? That's great, give
us that information. And then the report comes out absolutely
nothing. And it burst that bubble. Was that the objective?
Was it to get the momentum by the push of the United States
government, saying, let's just and I'll bring up the leaks
again, why were they allowed to happen? And why were their
comments on them so quickly by the Pentagon? And so was that
part of a bigger plot, Operation plot, whatever it might be? And
so was it why now is because they're trying to destroy this
topic. And that's still kind of unwritten. But I think it's a
possibility. And I know, I'll get hate mail for saying that.
But you have to look at what's going on, you look at the leaks
that have come out that were not extraordinary. You then look at
how the skeptics can debunk it, you look at the internal war
between the UFO community, and as a couple callers, yourself
included, who we just hung up with, that you've noticed that
everything is just kind of dried up, is that the public interest
going away? Because absolutely nothing happened with this
report. And it was this gigantic hype. We're going to get a
report, we're going to get this we're going to get that and
absolutely nothing happened. Now, I still find it
interesting. And I still think that there's a lot more to do. I
still think that there's a lot more to discover. And I still
think that there's a lot more that we all can collectively do.
But if this was part of something else, that's unwritten
for me, and I'm not really sure so that why now question. We
can't answer it. But to me, there are too many strange red
flags that remain unanswered about this entire saga that I
think we still need to push on. And sadly, I think there's a
small portion of the general public that doesn't care
anymore. And that's if I've learned anything in 25 years of
research and government cover ups, it is the fact that time is
the best weapon that the United States government can wield. And
if you wait long enough, people will absolutely lose interest.
So you have a core that doesn't care to answer those questions,
because they believe all this anyway. But the general public
has now been sloughed off for a couple years, they're on to
something else they're fighting whether or not mass should be in
schools, or we should go to the supermarket and mask. People. I
think collectively, a lot of people have moved on, because
the bubble was burst. So I'll stop ranting on that. But it's
it's really kind of the long winded way of saying we don't
know, if there are underlying objectives here. We want to
think it's all about truth and disclosure and so on and so
forth. But is there something else going on? We can't we
can't. We can't say no at this point.
Couple super chats. I'm going to get caught up and I'll get back
to the phone. dt. Thank you again for all of your support.
Tonight. Senator Reid's letter on Lou Elizondo said a tip was
an unclassified program. How does that square with Mr.
Elizondo his pension for punting questions on grounds of
confidentiality? Absolutely fantastic question and something
that I have posed for quite some time. In a New York magazine
interview by Senator Harry Reid. I forget off the top of my head
what year this was. But this was done by Senator Reid. And he
said 80% of a tip was unclassified. And he was saying
he couldn't believe that journalists and mainstream media
wasn't looking at it. No one has ever been able to answer the
question for me of what is this 80%? Is he talking about the 38?
dirt reports? Maybe, and that's fine. But there's no UFO data in
there. Arguably, some people want to say Kate Greene's report
was, you know, UAP effects on the human body, whatever. But
regardless, it just didn't scream as a UFO program to me
through the OS app days. So what is it that Harry Reid was
referring to? We don't know. All of those reports were for
official use only with the exception of I believe two off
the top of my head. And those were classified just simply
because they were using technical data that obviously
would encroach on a classified system. Why was everything else
on classified for official use only. So for those who aren't
aware for Use only or fo is not a classification. It's just an
internal designation, that the document then will still require
review for release, but is not classified in nature. So nothing
was except the again, the two that were. I think they were
dealing with lasers. But I, again, it's been a while since I
looked at it, regardless, majority was not. So what is
Harry Reid referring to? Going back to this question? There are
a lot of fall backs on it's classified, or my NDA or it's
classified as my NDA. And yeah, that's frustrating. I appreciate
and can understand those security clearances. But it
seems like if harry reid to say, Hey, 80% of this program, and
all the information that went along with it is all on
classified. Mainstream media is not looking at it. Fine. Keep
the 20% hide behind it. I don't care. Give me the 80% and let's
play ball. And yet no one has been able to do that. For those
curious, I have reached out to Harry Reid numerous times. No
response. So what is the information? Your guess is as
good as mine, let me get a little bit more caught up on
these super chats and I screw up, I probably screwed up. I
hope I'm not missing anybody. So much fun to see the hundreds and
hundreds of you throughout screaming through this chat. So
it's a little tough for me to pick out the comments. The Super
chats are the ones that are really highlighted. So that's
why I'm able to to pick those out. I apologize if I missing
anything because this thing kind of keeps refreshing on its own a
little bit. So apologize, john music. JOHN, when do you think
Mr. Elizondo is big news drop will happen. We can't lose
momentum. And most people know nothing about UFOs. We need big
stuff now. I'm not sure what Mr. Elizondo said he was going to be
dropping and what that news was, I will talk in generality, that
there are always people saying something big is coming. If
that's Mr. Elizondo. I hope not it but if he said that something
big is coming, I would hope that he would timestamp it if he
didn't, I have no idea. The thing with me, even though I
find value in what people say, and I look at it, and I digest
it, if it doesn't come through, or there's no timestamp, what
does it mean? I mean, there's so many people that say, big things
are coming. Just wait, you know, it teases are fine. I tease
myself that it's, it's good to get some kind of interest, the
longest I've ever teased something was on a Friday for a
Monday story. And I cringed when I did it. But there was actually
a reason why I did it. And generally, when I tease there's
usually a reason why I do work with a lot of journalists
worldwide. And so sometimes, if they see me maybe drop a hint
that I'm seeing a drop a hint that I'm publishing a story on
something, they'll write me, and then I can absolutely give them
a heads up. So it's a little bit to get that momentum because I
don't have the reach that a lot of the media organizations that
profile My Documents do. And so that's why sometimes I do that.
But there's always a reason. What I get tired of are those
teases that are just open ended, like something bigs coming. You
know, just wait.
I don't know when but some big, it drives me nuts, because there
are so many that you get excited about. And this is part of
marketing for some people, and it drives me nuts. They'll say,
Oh, I got this big interview with someone. It's coming soon.
It's coming to it like six months later, you know, maybe
something will get published, or those types of teases it I think
it drives the community nuts. So going back to this, when will it
happen? It's anybody's guess. I really I don't do I don't do
those long, open ended teases. Well, I think if somebody says,
Hey, I'll use Jeremy Corbyn as a prime example. When he teases he
at least delivers, like, not everybody's gonna like what he
publishes. But when he says high noon, the next day, I set my
alarm, because I know that it's kind of be there. You know, so
kudos to him that we may not always agree. But when he says
at high noon tomorrow, I'm gonna tease or I'm gonna drop
something. That's awesome. I got no problem with that. You know,
I mean, I wish that everything, of course, was published all at
the same time and dumped on the internet, but I get it. So what
this big news is, is anybody's guess. I know that this call has
been on hold for a while and I apologize. Who's this? This is
Brent. Hi, Brett. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? I'm
good. Thank you. Tell everybody you're Britain Wonderland. You
were just you were just That's right. So you were just on
unidentified celebrity review. On Twitter under what's your
handle?
Unknown: It's at inference. But the first he is a three.
John Greenewald: First, he is a three. Awesome. Well, thanks for
calling. What can I do for you?
Unknown: Okay, john, I wanted to talk about the metamaterials,
and just speak about something that has bothered me for quite
some time about the Korea issue. Actually, I think I might have
touched base on this with you before, but Forgive me, I have
like really bad ADHD? No worries. So basically, my thing
is, how coolum ttsa. And I know that like, like, in July stuff,
my team ttsa acquired these alleged special metals that were
originally owned by Linda health. And if I remember
correctly, and forgive me, I might be wrong about this,
because it is just coming off the top of my head. But I
believe the Carnegie Science Department of technical
magnetism and other educational facilities and entities had
already studied its material second 2012, I believe, right.
So if I remember correctly, how wrote a letter stating that they
basically weren't able to prove anything unique about the metal.
So when I found out that ttsa was going to conduct research on
it, I was really confused, right? Because I'm a believer.
Okay, so when I asked other people about this, they told me,
it was because they didn't necessarily have the tools.
Well, they've been like Carnegie, for example, they
didn't have the proper tools to research the metal. But, you
know, I guess it had something to do with like the isotope
ratio data that was mentioned earlier. But wouldn't Carnegie
and other Institute's already have like an isotope analysis.
And another thing, too, is just like knowing that first tech is
conducting the research on the materials that were already
claimed by how themselves to be nothing special, I just find
that really applied in a massive conflict of interest. So right
being said, I just want to get your opinion on that and
insight, and maybe clear me up or maybe anyone else that may
have like a misunderstanding about like, what exactly is
going on here?
John Greenewald: Well, what exactly is going on here is
anybody's guess. Yes, I did an interview with Linda Howe on
this channel. For those who aren't aware. You can, you can
and she goes into great detail about it. I'll refer to your
judgment on the Carnegie full title. But that that sounds
right, the way that you said it. And that Yes. How put off had
said that there was essentially an I'm paraphrasing, but
essentially that there was nothing to those pieces. So it's
kind of it's it's been a while since I interviewed Linda on it.
And I'm fairly confident that that came up, and I don't want
to try and reach back in my brain and give you the answer
she did. Because I'll be honest, and say I don't remember. But I
but I will say just from a broader sense, there absolutely
is something strange with that whole situation. And that, you
know, this ties into arts parts, and the fact that these were
kind of long, I don't want to say debunked, but it was kind of
long rumor that there was just nothing there. And it wasn't
just Dr. Hal put off letter. But it was other stuff as well. And
so, you know, it's like these, these stories are seemingly
recycled. Over the years, we've seen it with mj 12. And even
though the late Stanton Friedman, who is a dear personal
friend of mine for over 20 years, really did a lot of
research on the original documents, there's a lot of
stuff about mj 12. That's that's just a downright hoax. It just
is like you just can't get away from it. And those are the
documents that I'm referring to. And yet those have seemingly in
the last couple of years resurfaced. There's one that's
tied to Dr. Hal put off, although I couldn't get him to
go on the record about it about a crash retrieval. And this is
the National Intelligence estimate document that, to me,
is a screaming hoax. I also did a video dissecting that that
document as well, my entire point with that is going back to
the root of your question, what is going on? Why is it that a
lot of these stories just seemingly get recycled? And and
why is it that a lot of the same names keep coming up? That's a
different show, but it just seems like they just come up
again, and regardless of, let's say, doctor put off saying, hey,
there's nothing extraordinary about this, then all of a sudden
he pays, or his company pays. What is it? 20 20,000 35,000
whatever it was,
Unknown: I think it was like, Yeah, I think it's that much.
John Greenewald: Yeah, it was I mean, it was 10s of 1000s. I
think Vice News had reported that 750,000 No, I don't think
it was that much. No, no, I think it was if memory serves
was only like, well, not only but I think it was either 20 or
35,000 But regardless, there was
Unknown: no it was 35 You're right, you're right. Yeah.
John Greenewald: So So what? What's up with that? You know,
like, if there was nothing extraordinary about it, then why
allow the company that you co founded to then acquire the
piece? Like, you know, is it optics? Is it something that you
can, you know, put on on to a slide and say, This is what
we're doing invest in our company. You know, I go back to
that Showtime controversy that I got a lot of flack for, but I'm
not a lot but but those that hate me, they come after me for
if I sneeze the wrong way, they'll come after me for it.
But but the but about the, you know, the the money thing? Why
is it that a corporation like ttsa, their press releases, if
you look at them, they're all dated when the when the lines
were open to invest in the company, once they closed, the
press releases stopped. Now, what does that show you while
they're out to market themselves to make money? You know, like,
yeah, so it's not a bad thing to say. So why would they want to
spend money like that on something that they didn't find
extraordinary? I don't know. I
Unknown: have no idea. Like, I don't understand it. Like, it
just seems counterintuitive.
John Greenewald: It does. And I've never, I've never seen
anybody adequately answer that or address it. I'm not really
not really sure. I wish I had a better answer for you. But
there's, there's a lot of things like that, that are just out of
out of the ordinary. And, and again, I've primarily left ttsa
as a corporation, alone, in the sense that I just don't feel
like I want to critique them. I only focused on the parts that
dealt with the government. But that kind of stuff when I know
personally, the people that are signing these MBAs and signing,
you know, the their work over to ttsa. What has happened, you
know, since then, and I and as a television producer, who's
profiled some of that material that is now in the hands of
ttsa, there is a personal connection that I have to that.
And that's why I kind of get passionate going, Hey, what's
going on, you know, you're taking this material, you've
acquired this material, you've either purchased it, you've
bought it, or you are borrowing it, or whatever the story is, I
mean, it seems like everybody has different contracts. But
regardless, you've now acquired that the army internally is
saying, Yeah, well, they just want to go out and get more
stuff. Okay, like why? Like, if you got the key to the
universal, say, to 12th time, just go in there and unlock the
door, you know, but they just don't do it. So
Unknown: I'm not sure it's just so confusing. And I sit here and
I'm telling you, john, like this, it eats at me like this is
the question that I just cannot make sense of whatsoever. And
I'm deeply bothered by this. Like, I don't know, like, it's
just like a little chicken scratch. Like, why what is the
task? And?
John Greenewald: Yeah, and and to be honest with you? I don't
know. I really don't I mean, if, if t TSA has a plan, what I
wanted to do with this story, I'm not sure Brett, how long
you've been listening. And you won't offend me if you didn't
see it. But towards the earlier part of this, I showed what t
TSA said, and I wanted to give them the opportunity to say
yeah, no, we couldn't because of COVID. But But now we're ramping
up and we're we're slated to be in there in August or or
September, October, November, something and for them to just
fall back and go you know, check our SEC filings you go do what
you want. It doesn't help and and it's not just because I want
to know because john Greenwald the meanie wants to know, it's
number one, as cheesy as it sounds. I'm a taxpayer. So we
all in America are funding this. So there should be a level of
transparency there. But then on the other end, there's a lot of
people who invested in that company. And those investors
have a right to know. And COVID I'll be it as a hardship. It
can't be the fallback for everything. You know, I mean,
they're in production on their movies and films and stuff. So
if if it's the army great, say it. If not, then what's the
holdup? And I don't know.
Unknown: Right? Well, you know, I just wanted to get your
opinions on that. Because I know that's a hard question in a lot
of people just aren't able to answer it.
John Greenewald: Yeah, no, no, a lot of people aren't so but I
appreciate the question. And thanks for the call.
Unknown: Hi, thanks for answering anytime.
John Greenewald: We'll call in anytime. It's good to hear you
voice. Hey, thank you, john. You too. Bye bye. All right, let me
go ahead and hit this Super Chat john, thank you so much. Sorry,
took me a couple minutes list of people saying the public should
not know the real truth about nonhumans Obama, Leslie Kane
forever, etc. thoughts. We deserve truth regardless. Okay,
so I understand the root of your question. I just don't know off
the top of my head that they said we should not know the real
truth about nonhumans. So I can't, I can't speak to that
directly about Obama and Leslie Kane and favor saying, saying
that so if so forgive me, I'm not real sure about the exact
quotes. What I will say about this, and it's a it's a question
that I have loved to answer and address and could bore you all
to death for years about it is it's not? Should we know which
the answer is yes. It's, are we able to handle it as a society?
And I would truly believe that the majority of the people that
are watching this program absolutely could handle the real
truth about nonhumans. Should there be a truth about nonhumans
to reveal? I believe that. So outside of this show, outside of
this audience outside of that, the general populace that's
walking around, are they ready? And the answer, in my opinion,
only my opinion is no. And when we look at the general
population, and I've said it before, and I'll say it again,
on the show, it doesn't matter how you think about masks or
whether or not you should or shouldn't wear them, remove
yourself from being in the debate for a second and just
look at the debate. The fact that that that has turned in to
this massive civil war between people in America and you look
about masks in the classroom and how that has turned into a civil
war. And you look at how the states have now some are
threatening and was a Florida that's doing that saying, if you
mandate this, then your pay is held or whatever. That's a civil
war, you're, you're tearing this country apart. And again, I'm
not trying to make a political remove yourself from the debate
doesn't matter what side of the of the debate you stand on. Just
look at the debate. And that's my point. If we are fighting
about that, do you think the general population could handle
the fact that nonhumans are here or visiting us or out there? And
my opinion is no, we are such a young civilization,
intellectually, technologically, we just don't get it. We just
don't like there's a lot of stupidity out there. There's a
lot of ignorance out there. And so I think that when it comes to
such an amazing topic like this, and and the reality behind it,
could we as a whole as a whole handle it the answer's no. So in
regards to the the the exact quotes not to repeat myself, I'm
curious if they've said that. So, you know, please feel feel
free to send that to me. Because I'd love to see the exact
quotes. All over Oliver dro Thank you. For this a podcast I
heard made me somber and experienced a while ago, query
ETS about why they interfere answer long ago in this planet,
we got to nuclear and we destroyed ourselves never again.
The problem that I have with with the nuclear argument, just
to quickly address that is that it's very common for humans to
want a higher being should want to exist to come and nurture us.
You know, we growing up, we want that from our mom and dad or
grandma or grandpa or or soccer coach or whomever. And you want
that because you're you're you're infantile, right? You're
you're not, you're not as experienced, you're not as as,
as
you're not as powerful as those other, you know, beings. There's
other humans that you look up to. And I think that it's very
natural for us to want that. Because that's what we've grown
up with, when it comes to the grander cosmic scale. And we
talk about humanity. Now being that infant, I believe that
there is a portion of our society that wants to think that
this higher being is out there that will save us from the
horrors of the world and the horrors of this planet would
essentially be a nuclear holocaust, a nuclear war that
would destroy us all. We want that. The reality though is
would they care. And and this is something that I love. This is
another one of those, I'll bore you to death for hours. But I'll
use this analogy for you. And I love the anthill analogy, and
anybody who knows me knows I fall back on that a lot, because
I think it makes the most sense. The idea that they would come
and save us from the nuclear holocaust is is the same, I
would say, situation where humanity would march out to the
middle of the Sahara Desert, and plant an American flag or the
flag of earth or whatever, and tell an ant colony we're here.
We have lived 1000s of miles in that direction. You didn't know
that. We were here. But we are here. Now we want to help you
against that termite colony over there because they could come
hurt you, or that other ant colony, or they're going to
build a road here. So we're going to move you, we don't do
that. We just don't, because we just sadly, I don't care I do. I
love ants. That's why I use the ant analogy. But regardless, we
just don't do that. The intellectual gap, arguably, in
my mind, would be closer between a human and an anthill, an ant
that built that hill, it would be closer in that situation than
it would be between humans and a civilization, let's say a
million years had a million year headstart on us. And so would
they come and save the anthill. And I just don't see it. Because
if we are here, and they are there, they have that million
year headstart, the likelihood of us being the only ones around
is pretty nil. If that was the last anthill in the Sahara
Desert, yeah, I believe humans would would go save it, but it's
not. So if the reality that there's a civilization out there
that exists, they're going to come all this way to save the
anthill from nuclear weapons. I just don't buy it. I just don't
see it. Because there are millions and millions then
scientifically and mathematically of civilizations
out there to converse with and if humanity on earth is going to
destroy itself, would they care? And it's that until again, I
think the answer is no, of course, that's just an opinion
and for fun, but regardless, it kind of goes into what you were
saying. So Oliver, thank you. I hope that answered your question
a little bit. But, but appreciate it. Nonetheless, you
came up back to back with another one. And I appreciate
that. I'm the very opposite of what you just described. I hate
authority of or higher beings. I just hate it. I'd hate them to
be interfering. But is this true? I might understand.
I think you're the not an exception to the rule. But I
would say that that most people, you know, they want to I want to
say most I'll correct myself. I'm not really sure what the
majority would be. So I don't want to say you're an exception
to the rule. I would, in my personal opinion, argue that the
majority of human humanity wants that nurturing, they're going to
come save us, because there's no other option. We can't destroy
them. If they've got a million year 100,000 year headstart, and
they can traverse the stars. We got no fighting chance. So I
think that's the easy fallback for a lot of people. But,
Oliver, it's a fun topic, and I not only appreciate your
support, but appreciate your thoughts nonetheless. Let me get
one more Super Chat. Then I'll go back to the phones. I'm
sorry. For those on hold. Did. Dolores, thank you for the
support. Did you feel your views about Elizondo were accurately
reflected in the Showtime series? UFO? Did you like the
show? Overall? I've been waiting for this question I've been I've
been wondering Is somebody gonna ask this? Do I feel that my
views about Elizondo were accurately reflected? I do in my
specific what I said segments. I do not have any control over the
writing of Showtime, the editing of Showtime, the overall message
of Showtime, nothing JJ Abrams and his crew did all of that.
What I stand by is what I said. And and what I said absolutely.
I do believe that about Mr. Elizondo that he did operate
like a ghost within a Pentagon, in the Pentagon, he operated in
a office that is very hard to find information on. I didn't
make the accusation. He was in it for the money. Some people on
Twitter tried to say that I said that I did not. I was talking
about that group as a whole, that some of them possibly had
money as a motivating factor. I stand by that as well. I don't
think anybody should scoff at that. That's why people get into
to a corporate world like that. If they didn't care, it'd be a
five oc 535 OHS What is a 503 C or whatever the nonprofit is,
I'm drawing a blank My back's killing me. So I apologize. But
whatever the nonprofit is, it would be that and he would have
a much different vision for it. But but instead it was a public
benefit corporation that was trying to raise $50 million that
had different angles of what they wanted to achieve. They
have altered that vision and rightfully so it's the right to
do that. But altered that vision to be financially more lucrative
because they missed that 50 million mark across the board.
So I spoke in general generality there, but with Mr. Elizondo I
stand by what I said everything is backed up by by official
documentation and evidence or the lack thereof. So I don't I
don't have any issues with the way I was reflected on Showtime.
And I'm always happy to to answer Questions on that. But
again, I just want to punch the point. I don't have control over
anyone else. I know the James carry on was very pointed with
what he said in the same segment that I appeared on about it
being an op from the beginning. That's James, I was unaware
James was even interviewed for the show. So what he says,
you'll have to check with him. But I'm happy to stand by what I
did. Did you like the show? Overall? I did. I was
taking it from a viewpoint of being a television producer. For
many years, I've done many hours of documentaries for history and
discovery and natgeo, and stuff like that. And the reason why I
bring that up is because there's there's one element to doing
shows like that, for networks that I think the general public
doesn't always want to understand, or they don't
understand, which is you have to have a balance, you have to have
a point and a counterpoint. And that's not always appealing to
the UFO community. And to be honest with you, with me as a
producer, when I was working as one, it wasn't appealing to me,
either. Because you had to refute or give an alternate
point of view, for a lot of the points that you were trying to
make. I believe they had that balance. Were they heavy on the
abduction part? Being the skeptical on the abduction part?
I do believe that they were heavy on that. Is that a
complaint? No, because I believe that they still had that balance
of people telling their stories, giving the information and
again, that journalistic back and forth, so I give them credit
for that I really do. And it watching, it took me back to
getting network notes from the History Channel, or from
Discovery Channel, or wherever. And you'll make a point in a
show. And when you write a show like this, it's your baby, like
this is what you you know, you put your heart and soul into a
one hour documentary when you're doing them. And so for them to
come back and go, Hey, you gotta cut this down. And then it let's
bring in Dr. Seth shostack. And we'll go ahead and, you know,
poopoo the idea or whatever it is, and you cringe and go now
now this is such a great segment, I want to, I want to do
something else. But that those are the network notes because
they want that balance. And so I saw that, and I and I kind of
internally laughed a little bit, but I get it and I and I wish
that the UFO community can understand that because if the
skeptical point of view is wrong, then the pro point of
view will stand on its own. And if the evidence is there to
support narrative x y&z then skeptical viewpoint, A, B and C
will do nothing to it. And so when you offer that balance,
you're offering the balance, and you're letting the audience
decide. But you have the information there. And if the
information is strong enough to stand on its own. It absolutely
will. Let me go to the phones. I'm so sorry. I kept you on
hold. Who's this? Hello. Hey, hey, it's Erica. How are you?
I'm good. Erica. Luke's Well, I didn't recognize your number. I
won't. I won't say the locale. It's not your locale. Yeah. So I
was like, I'm calling on Skype. Okay. Hi, Eric. Luke's How are
you? I'm pretty good. How are you? I'm doing awesome. I'm
sorry to keep you on hold. And I'm sorry to draw a blank there.
Again, the the area code threw me off from where I know you are
so no, good.
Unknown: I just wanted to say that. First of all, I thought
you did an excellent job on UFO. And I think that it was really
interesting for me to see all of the backlash that you had for
simply stating information that was actually truthful. And I
feel you know, the same about James carry on who was on my
show last night, it was very funny to see the very small
quote unquote UFO community, kind of lighting the pitch, you
know, like getting their pitchforks out lighting the
fires. And unfortunately, they when you're doing a good
production, as you've mentioned, you you it's you have to present
both sides to a story. And that's the thing that we never
do in the UFO community we go, we're so you know, we're getting
going down this rabbit hole of just absolute nonsense. It's
actually very, it's very damaging to individuals. And I
think that we're not grounded, and we're not capable of asking
critical questions. And so I appreciated that you did that on
on the show. Well, I
John Greenewald: appreciate the kind words Yeah, I think not to
repeat what I said a few moments ago, but i i think that what
people don't realize is that if your evidence stands on its own,
nothing you throw at it will damage it. You know, and all be
it television is very powerful to craft a certain message or,
you know, have that type of objective if they had a sinister
one. They could have Keep it really easy. Absolutely. And I
just lost you. I don't know if you can hear me. I can. Yeah.
Not sure if you can still hear me. But But yeah, yeah. Now I
didn't get that feeling with with the Showtime documentary.
They were they were posing important questions and I think
that the two big things that I saw the flack for anyway was the
was the money comment which I absolutely Stand by. I don't
think anybody should shy away from that. But also the aura
that there was something underneath the onion layer of
this truth and disclosure facade. Was there something else
going on? And although I didn't say it that way, and I know
James carry on said more of the OP part of it. I do believe we
can't discount that, that there's some other layer that we
don't know yet. And in fact, you can arguably say there
absolutely is. I mean, look how many times answers are given
saying I can't I can't say anything, because of my NDA or
my my security clearance or whatever. So there is another
layer. What is that layer though? And that that's what I
don't? What I don't know. But I think too many people want to
ask me
Unknown: agree. And I think it is interesting. It's interesting
to note, and hopefully you can hear me, I keep dropping out,
we've got a storm coming in. But if you can hear me, it's
interesting to note that if you really truly have, you know,
you're working on classified programs, and you have security
clearances, you don't go out in the public and you know, talk
about things like that. The last thing you do is draw attention
to it. Yeah. And so I just have to wonder.
John Greenewald: Just have to wonder we're gonna be left in
suspense. Erica, do we I think we did lose. Yeah.
Unknown: So we got a big storm coming in. I know, we've got a
big storm coming in. But I was just saying I, you know, if if
you're really working on classified programs, and you're
really doing the things that you say that you're doing, you don't
go on TV shows, and you don't write books about, you know,
skinwalker Ranch, and do all of these things to draw attention
to things you're you're on the down low. Yeah. Because you
know, you've got your family and you've got people that you're
protecting and you're protecting government secrets. So that the
the whole thing of I think with with put off Elizondo, all of
these people that have been promoting a narrative for a
long, long time is I, after my research,
John Greenewald: I lost you again,
Unknown: people need to put information out or we know that
they're, they're absolutely full, full of it. Well, I
John Greenewald: don't want to say full of it. But I think that
the, for me anyway, there are still a lot of unanswered
questions. And until we find those those those answers, we
shouldn't stop asking. And there are too many noisy, there's not
a ton. But there are too many very loud voice.
Unknown: I agree until we find the answers I and you're much,
much kinder than I am. And I'm to the point after the
skinwalker Saga, that I definitely I will say they're
full of it, and I'll call them out. And I do because they
produce nothing but creating a narrative that is confusing for
people, they they're making money off of things, they're not
being forthright with their intentions. And to me, that's
very disturbing. And I hope at some point in time that that
will be exposed. Yeah. I meet Don, I don't I don't back away
from No,
John Greenewald: no. And and and that's that's why that's why I
like is that you that you don't the what I would say, though,
that's that's very concerning is that I can support an
entrepreneurial venture, you know, if they're going to
profit, fine, but let's see results. What bothers me is the
swallowing up of the information under the guise of transparency,
openness, and we're going to change the world about UFOs. But
look at going back to the story that I was talking about earlier
with, you know, the the pieces of UAP debris or crash records,
whatever you want to refer to him as that they've swallowed up
all of that material. And absolutely nothing has happened.
And when you ask them as a taxpayer who is helping fund
their agreement, they just don't say anything, as an investor,
their minute meeting meeting minutes that are public say
absolutely nothing. That's the kind of stuff that I think
should be ridiculed. The entrepreneurial profit venture,
okay? We can maybe argue both ways on that. But it's the it's
the control. And that to me, I think drives all else is the
control Roll over the information over the narrative.
And although they've done a lot of great they have done, and you
may disagree with me, they've done a lot of great things for
the conversation to be put into the public. Right? whether or
not that's all rooted in 100% honesty? Yeah, we can probably
find some some common ground there. But they have done that.
And so I give them credit for that. But what worries me is
again, that control and to see now the internal army documents,
and to see now that fear that I posed two years ago of you're
taking this material giving it to the to the government, and
now the documentation shows that the Pentagon is involved in the
message. Well, why would you do that? Like you're a private
corporation that has this, this want and desire to bring all
this information out? Yet you just got in bed with the enemy
number one that you guys are the ones that told us we're lying.
You know, that Mr. Elizondo spearheaded that part of the
movement, saying that we are not getting the full story. So why
would you take all that material that could be that that key to
unlocking this entire mystery, and give it right back to them?
I don't get that. So financial stuff aside. It's it's that
control, it just bugs me to no end.
Unknown: No, absolutely. Great. Those are great points. I
definitely just have to say to people, it's we've got to quit,
I feel looking for disclosure, and we're not going to get it
from the powers that be the people that are screaming the
loudest about disclosure, because they're making money.
They're holding conferences. In fact, there was a great
conference this weekend that Elizondo and how and and Whitley
Strieber and those people were at, in so it's, it's, I really
feel that we deserve better than this. I think that there's a lot
of money power politics, I hate to say it, but there's some
things that we need to look at. Because at the end of the day,
people that are here that follow my show that follow your show,
are here because we want the truth, and we deserve it.
John Greenewald: Yeah. And no disagreement with me there. Or
from me there. You're absolutely right. I hope we get it. And
your phone call reminds me that we got to bring you back on to
this channel for a full conversation because I always
love talking to you.
Unknown: When I do too, and I need to get you on my show. But
I just I would love to come on because I've learned so much
more about skinwalker Ranch, and about some of the other things
since I acquired the Andropov file. So I would love that
opportunity.
John Greenewald: Yeah, very cool stuff. And obviously you have a
radio show real quick before I let you go then I'm gonna have
to close my show here. But how do people see your show?
Unknown: So my show is UFO classified now I'm I'm streaming
on YouTube, where you can find it on spreaker or iTunes, and
things like that. And so you can go to UFO classified comm or
Urkel Luke's comm To find out more, but I try to bring on
people like you and James carry on and people who are dedicated
to trying to find the truth and weeding through all of the
nonsense. Awesome. Well, I
John Greenewald: always enjoy being on your show. So thanks
for that inviting me in the past. And we'll have to do it
again on on both sides of this, but it's good to hear your voice
again. Thanks for the call. Thank you. Yeah, have a good
night. Thanks. You too. All right, I am going to have to run
wind this up here in a couple minutes. Let me go ahead and I
took the number off the screen. I don't know how many people
might be on hold. But let me go ahead and get to the last couple
of super chats here. JOHN music again. Thank you for your
continued support. Sheehan said recently with Bob McGuire, that
he's going to push extremely legally hard for full disclosure
to the public about non human reality thoughts. I don't
believe a lawyer can do it. I love Danny Sheehan, in the sense
that I've known him for years, lectured at the same, you know,
the same conferences as him, and sat on panels with them and have
a lot of respect for him. As with anybody in this field, we
always don't agree, but I like him nonetheless. pushing hard
for the disclosure, though I just don't see it. I don't think
it's going to come that way. I personally on disclosure, don't
think it's going to come at all in regards to an official line.
Somebody like who just called Eric Luke's saying the same
thing. It's not going to come from the powers that be and I
agree. You look at the history from the 1940s on it's just not
going to be there. So that said thank you, john. Let me go ahead
and let me pull on this caller. I was gonna cut the show but
this caller might be kind of interesting. Who's this?
Unknown: Hello, this is john I'm, I'm from a place you've
probably never heard of called Northridge Northridge,
California. JOHN,
John Greenewald: I grew up there. You're kidding. I did.
And your voice sounds awfully familiar.
Unknown: Oh, I imitate a lot of people. Sometimes
John Greenewald: you do well, you probably imitate me a lot,
just a much older version. Let me introduce everybody to my
father, who has probably been watching and wants to, I don't
know, turn it into a political talk show or something and get
me in trouble. I
Unknown: actually I was gonna but I had I got a different I
got some different tasks.
John Greenewald: Oh, good. Well, we'll wait. So before you go
there. So anybody who's followed the black Vault for a long time
this is greeny to that has been on the message boards for a long
time. Now with the social media, empires taking over. Message
forums aren't as popular anymore. But my dad has been a
longtime user under the name of green, he too, has gotten into
trouble more times than I can count. I think I've banned you
100,000 times but you keep coming back. But that's not done
yet. Yeah, sure. But okay, so let's get to the question. I'm a
little nervous.
Unknown: Okay, well, first of all, I wanted to say, your
mother and I are just glued to the Showtime UFO show, we
thought it was just absolutely fantastic. And we're gonna
probably watch it again, five or six times? Oh, well, I
John Greenewald: appreciate my biggest fans, you
Unknown: know, actually, you were you were saying a little
while ago about, you know, we have such a fascination with in
our country, maybe even the world would have, you know, have
we had visitors from far far away places? And, you know, the
fascination of his life somewhere is or not, and how
would we react to it. But then, on our side here, we don't have
that kind of fascination about watching our own space program.
And it's, you know, we're doing amazing things, and we're going
to amazing places. I mean, nowhere remotely close, as, you
know, anybody would be coming to visit us, but I wonder what your
opinion on you know, like the recent space flights were, you
know, they've been taken civilians up and we are planning
to go back to the moon and, you know, we're, you know, the goal
is send people to Mars in some future. And everyone, why why do
we not have the same fascination for for our own space program
when we're so fascinated with wondering who can reach us?
Yeah,
John Greenewald: yet? No, you're you're absolutely right. And to
get there's a bunch of chat, things coming in right now. So
to address some of the questions, this is my dad, so
yes, I'm not kidding. This is john Greenwald, senior. I grew
up in a house and Dad, this is for the audience who doesn't
know this, but I grew up in a house where my dad worked on the
Space Shuttle. And so when you see the space shuttle takeoff,
or when we saw takeoff, the big engines on the bottom, the RS 68
or the SSM ease? That was my dad's baby. So he was you know,
you were you were an our hero to that entire program. And I'm not
saying that because you're my dad, but but it instilled a love
for me into the space program. And growing up, you know, the
privatization of it. And I think actually, you and I may even
differ on this. But I hated to see that I hated to see the
commercialization of the space race and essentially the Elan
musk and the the Jeff Bezos and ever and Richard Branson going
up and I didn't I didn't like that i because I felt the
passion was lost. Now to Ilan Musk's credit, I will give him
the passion I saw something that he did in an interview and he
got emotionally you got teary eyed and you know anybody can do
that as an actor but but he wasn't acting I mean he you
could tell the passion behind what he did. So I can see part
of the passion but I think that that plays a role in that
people. The general public has lost interest. And I really hate
to say this, but it was fun to see so many big numbers watch
brands and go up and and beezus go up. But I cringe saying this
but how it's like watching a NASCAR race that they're looking
for the crash. You know, yeah, and I hate to say it that way
but but I feel that that's why some people tuned in and I'd
argue maybe even a lot that we're looking for the the the
crash on turn number three That's what it was, but the
passion for where we're going in space is gone. And and I and I,
for the majority of the people, and I hate that I cry, I cringe.
You know, I mean, you look at what we've done on Mars in the
last year and flying a helicopter and doing all this
stuff. That to me is so overlooked, and and so lost. I
think
Unknown: it's remarkable. And you would think that people
would be marveling over it, especially when you hear that
that little helicopter had a swatch taken off of the Wright
brothers. airplane. Yeah. And was on that little helicopter.
That's I mean, that's just astounding. Yeah.
John Greenewald: Yeah. And those are the types of stories I think
that that the general public is missing out on. And I feel that
we're as a whole losing that. And the question mark is, you
know, people love the UFO stuff, like our aliens here, and so on
and so forth. Because it's pop culture free and, and it gets
some some good headlines. But I think that they're, they're,
they're missing the bigger picture, you know, that we
should really sit down and figure out what the answer to
these questions are. And I think a lot of people aren't, I
interviewed Avi Loeb from Harvard University on this
channel not too long ago. And you can see that he really wants
those answers. What boggles my mind is why don't more people
want those answers, not only in the scientific community, but
the general public. And I don't I wish I knew the answer to
that. But I just, I don't have it. But I but I will say that,
that that was one thing growing up that that was so amazing that
I've never lost, which was, you know, the the love for the space
race and space technology and the advancements for that,
because there was such passion with what you guys did. And
another quick story for the audience is that dad would have
Dad, what can I admit this? Dad would have these take your son
to work days or take your kid to work days? And you have to be
like, under a certain age, you know, to go. And can I say it?
Like how, yeah, how many years after I blow past the age that I
was supposed to be? And I think you kept saying, Oh, yeah, he's
seven. And I was like, 18 going in there. And yeah,
Unknown: I think the last one, we got you right in. But
John Greenewald: you remember, there was a control center. And
they were they were communicating. I forget what it
was. It wasn't only with the shuttle. But I started asking
about something that I guess encroached on the a classified
aspect of the communication. Technology. Do you remember
that? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if she got in trouble for that.
Unknown: But yeah, I know you. You know where I think you
asked, you also asked that when we went down and we took that.
Then we take a tour on a on a navy ship, and you started
asking the guy classified questions or something.
John Greenewald: Yeah, that to me that was that was in San
Diego. I think we did that that ship. Now. The one was at your
work, because I was afraid I got you in trouble. It was in one of
the conference centers. And they were able to tap into the
shuttle. They were able to communicate with Houston or
Florida.
Unknown: Yeah, they they could. Well, every lunch was monitored
in a control room, you know, actually in the main building
there. And that actually is now in the museum. Remember when we
want to see the enterprise? And the enterprise the endeavor?
Yeah. And they had that whole control panel that came out of
the main building that they would monitor every launch from
and what have you got another second friend? A guy can tell
them a little story? Yeah,
I've got Oh, come
on house when you came.
John Greenewald: Yeah, this is a pleasant surprise.
Unknown: Well, when when I got drawn to come in for for bring
your kid to work day, I had a special a special part that I
asked my boss to hold for a day until john was there. And it was
the it was the replica manifold of the X 33 main injector
manifold. And I had it all set up. And john and I welded it
together. And it was then x rayed and approved for the
procedure to weld the main manifolds on the X 33 engines
which were called the linear aerospike. So john is actually
welded on things that were used for space and I believe that
little manifold that we, that we welded, john was assembled into
a smaller size engine. And it was mounted to the back of an X,
the XR seven s r 71. And, and actually actually flown to do
test for the X 33. Wow, unfortunately, the X 33 program
was cancelled, and it was had failures and part of the
fuselage and the fuel tanks leaking. So that was, was a
great program, but it never made it made it you know, off the
ground, it was cancelled. But john got to well, the actual
manifolds that approved the welding for those engines.
John Greenewald: It will what was cool, just to point out is
that you used robots, you did a lot of manual welding. But you
even years and years and years ago, but like on I think you You
said that they were like 286 processors, but would use these
gigantic robots. And you would program in the welds, and you
would do the welds that way, which was fascinating to me,
because I'm a computer geek, and not to embarrass you, you get
lost in like Microsoft Word. And then I went to work with you.
And then you're like programming these, you know, robots and
welding, all this stuff that's flying humans to space. And
like, Who's this guy? I don't know who this guy is. Which was,
which was always fun. I thought you were going to tell the story
about the part that was on that big robot arm that you moved.
And you found out later, it wasn't strapped down? Should I
say that? What's that? Now? I'd say that when you move that big
arm and you had that gigantic piece on it. I make me maybe
getting you in trouble and you moved it. It was like a big
crane in it. I don't know if you're watching me right now.
But it kind of would go up to the side and you'd pretty much
be able to move it to do different welds in different
angles.
Unknown: Oh, that's the the big robot though. Yeah.
John Greenewald: Do you remember that that day? When? Yeah, I
shouldn't have admitted that on the air. Sorry.
Unknown: Well, there was always some mistakes made here and
there. Yeah. Well,
John Greenewald: nothing happened on that day. But no, no
thanks. Thankfully, you were perfect with every weld that you
did. But well,
Unknown: I wish but yeah, I was very lucky to work where I
worked. And it was always fun when we had open houses for the,
for the public because people got to see things that you know,
we've never gone through a plant like that. It's amazing. I mean,
30 years I was there and parts of it's still amazing.
John Greenewald: Yeah. And you were just to kind of close it
off. You were awarded the Snoopy award. Can you tell everybody
what that is?
Unknown: Now the silver Snoopy award is awarded, not by my
company or Rocketdyne it's awarded by NASA. And when I was
awarded mine with medal Federer I worked with, we were given our
award by the commander of the return to flight space shuttle
flight. And I went to see that that returned to flight landing
with john and his sister. And it was a school field trip. So that
was really that was really fun for me that the the commander
that gave me my award was the one that piloted the first
shuttle flight after the challenger. And we got to go see
that the dry lake and that was just never thought I'd seen so
many motorhomes and people in my life, there was something like
500,000 people that were out there, we camped out for the
night. And it just was, it was really something it really was a
experience. And thing came in and the sonic booms went off.
And we just had a great time with that.
John Greenewald: Yeah, I missed I missed the shuttle. You know,
I missed those. The not only seeing it in the very few times
that I did, but I'm just talking about on television, seeing it
and miss that whole program and the passion behind it. I hope
they I hope they do something like I don't think there's plans
for it, but I hope they do something like that. Again, you
know that that gets people passionate about going to the
stars that it's not for funny, not for money or not for a
celebrity to pay millions of dollars to go, but to have them
have a reason to go you know, and there's so much More to
explore and not to put a damper on it. But humanity's got to get
off this blue rock eventually. So, you know, we're gonna have
to figure it out. So you know eventually this planet's gonna
go could put So yeah, I hope they go back to it but I will
say this as as a closing thought as I see this the chat stream
through, you're a hit and people want you to come back and tell
us more store and you tell us more stories. So will you do
that deal? All right, well that didn't take much convincing. I
thought you were gonna ask for a barbecue or Philemon Jaan or
something like that? Well, we could do that. Alright, well
then that's that's a deal. Well, we'll just live stream it from
the patio, so that'll be perfect. But then, you know, I'm
not trying to cut you off. I'm gonna have to cut the stream
here. But I really, I'm glad you called then I know that
everybody in the chat and everything is happy as well.
Unknown: Yeah, me too. I first time caller
John Greenewald: first first time not the last time either.
So tell mom, tell mom. Hi. Love you guys.
Unknown: She's listening in the other room?
John Greenewald: Oh, good. She's probably gonna hit you about
something. See? All right, love. You guys will love you. Alright,
that's my dad. I that was not planned. So you know, that's,
that's, that's that's the man the myth, the legend. So yeah, I
I'm glad he called it. And that's a good a good way to end.
And I'm sorry. For those that were on hold. I'm seeing that
there are more people coming in. I apologize. We've been on for
about two and a half hours. And so they're a little bit longer
than I expected. But I just wanted to say thank you, to all
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