1 00:00:02,340 --> 00:00:08,730 John Greenewald: February 21 2021. at 36,000 feet above 2 00:00:08,730 --> 00:00:13,740 north eastern New Mexico, American Airlines Flight 2292 3 00:00:13,830 --> 00:00:15,510 had an unusual encounter. 4 00:00:19,439 --> 00:00:22,199 ATC Recording: You have any ta gets up here we just had somethi 5 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:23,309 g go right over the top o 6 00:00:23,790 --> 00:00:26,190 John Greenewald: first reported at the drives Warzone by 7 00:00:26,190 --> 00:00:30,000 investigative journalist Tyler rogue away, the encounter was 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,420 confirmed by American Airlines and the air traffic control 9 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:35,460 recordings were authenticated. 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,880 ATC Recording: I look like a long electrical object that 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,700 almost looks like a vertical pipe and things moving really 12 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:43,110 fast, but my right over the top. 13 00:00:43,949 --> 00:00:46,289 John Greenewald: But beyond that the airline recommended to 14 00:00:46,289 --> 00:00:50,279 contact the FBI. This indicated there was an investigation 15 00:00:50,279 --> 00:00:53,789 potentially underway. And that meant to me that there were 16 00:00:53,789 --> 00:00:59,399 documents to be found. Although I didn't have high hopes of 17 00:00:59,399 --> 00:01:02,279 groundbreaking results, I attempted to get ahold of the 18 00:01:02,279 --> 00:01:06,329 information via the freedom of information. And the end result 19 00:01:06,569 --> 00:01:10,469 made the entire saga much more interesting. But it may have 20 00:01:10,469 --> 00:01:14,279 also produced more questions than answers. Here. Here's the 21 00:01:14,279 --> 00:01:18,389 story about how it all went down. So stay tuned, you're 22 00:01:18,389 --> 00:01:20,909 about to journey inside the black vault. 23 00:02:00,780 --> 00:02:03,540 That's right, everybody. As always, thank you so much for 24 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:06,840 tuning in and making this your podcast or your live stream of 25 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,810 choice. I'm your host, john Greenwald, Jr, creator and 26 00:02:09,810 --> 00:02:13,110 founder of the black vault calm. And I'll admit to you upfront, 27 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:16,200 when I originally was going to do this video, it was going to 28 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,110 be very, very short. We call them quick blast here on the 29 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:23,760 channel. And I just literally do that in a very quick manner. 30 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,010 tell you guys a story. Sometimes they're a couple minutes. 31 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,370 Sometimes they're a minute or two. Sometimes they've got me in 32 00:02:29,370 --> 00:02:32,580 them. Sometimes they don't. But regardless, much, much smaller, 33 00:02:32,580 --> 00:02:36,120 which was my intent for this. Now, although I don't plan to go 34 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,810 on too long. Why I wanted to point that out is the story took 35 00:02:39,810 --> 00:02:44,340 kind of an interesting turn. After I published a small 36 00:02:44,490 --> 00:02:47,940 article yesterday, I call it small because it was just that I 37 00:02:47,940 --> 00:02:53,100 was just updating you guys on the investigation into American 38 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:58,050 Airlines Flight 2292. Now the reason why I wanted to do this 39 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:02,640 video is this video is now going to update you guys on a new 40 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:06,540 development. Now let me tell you just in a nutshell what the 41 00:03:06,540 --> 00:03:10,020 article was yesterday. For those who don't know, American 42 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:15,450 Airlines Flight 2292. On February 21 2021, had a strange 43 00:03:15,450 --> 00:03:18,540 encounter, just like you just saw in the in the introduction. 44 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:22,740 Now what I did was I kind of saw the the great reporting by Tyler 45 00:03:22,740 --> 00:03:25,890 rogue away, I'm a huge fan of his and what they do over there 46 00:03:25,890 --> 00:03:30,330 at the drive, and utilize that to create FOIA requests to track 47 00:03:30,330 --> 00:03:33,720 down documentation. Now, admittedly, I'm sure they were 48 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,020 doing it too. And I was in no way trying to step on, on their 49 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:41,190 toes. Either Tyler's or anybody at the team over there, but 50 00:03:41,190 --> 00:03:45,000 rather just start digging in using that reporting. And kudos 51 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,120 to them for breaking the story. But seeing what you can come up 52 00:03:48,150 --> 00:03:53,010 officially, I'm a big fan of tackling issues like that on 53 00:03:53,010 --> 00:03:56,670 multiple fronts, because you never know. And this is a prime 54 00:03:56,700 --> 00:04:01,140 example of just that, who may get something where the other 55 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:05,550 person does not. And sometimes it is either just down to luck. 56 00:04:05,730 --> 00:04:09,390 Maybe it is malicious, I'll let you guys decide. But that 57 00:04:09,390 --> 00:04:14,370 happened in this case. So when I posted that out yesterday, I 58 00:04:14,370 --> 00:04:18,000 posted two letters. When I went after information about this 59 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,410 encounter by American Airlines Flight 2292. I sent a couple 60 00:04:22,410 --> 00:04:26,220 FOIA requests out, one to the FBI, because according to 61 00:04:26,220 --> 00:04:30,780 American Airlines, they were essentially the contact to go to 62 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,500 that was reported by the drive. So that gave me a reason to go 63 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:40,260 to the FBI. The more obvious one was the FAA. And that was 64 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:45,960 essentially the the, in my opinion, the best spot for 65 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,890 information on this encounter. But hey, with the FOIA, whenever 66 00:04:49,890 --> 00:04:53,760 in doubt, send it to everybody and see what happens. So here's 67 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,120 the story about how that all went down. Because when I 68 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,150 published that that article yesterday, I thought thought 69 00:05:00,150 --> 00:05:04,620 that that was somewhat, at least for now, the end of the story I 70 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:08,580 have appealed both cases. Now here are the articles that were 71 00:05:08,580 --> 00:05:11,970 published by the Warzone. Again, this is just the groundwork that 72 00:05:11,970 --> 00:05:15,360 allowed me to do that for you. You can see here let me turn my 73 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,690 little pen on here for those watching on YouTube. So this 74 00:05:18,690 --> 00:05:21,930 article up here whoops, now I'm drawing on my presentation. 75 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,490 That's not what I wanted. Here's my laser pointer. So this was 76 00:05:26,490 --> 00:05:30,600 the February 21 article, airliner encountered 77 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,260 unidentified fast moving cylindrical object over New 78 00:05:34,260 --> 00:05:38,280 Mexico. That was when the story was broken on February 21. 79 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:42,810 digging in more as Tyler does best. Two days later, they 80 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:46,800 published this one American Airlines confirms encounter with 81 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,640 unidentified cylindrical object over New Mexico. I gave you the 82 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,970 nutshell version. Here's a little bit more about what the 83 00:05:53,970 --> 00:05:59,370 encounter was. On the February 21 article, Tyler wrote American 84 00:05:59,370 --> 00:06:04,410 Airlines Flight 2292 and Airbus A 320. Flying between Cincinnati 85 00:06:04,410 --> 00:06:08,070 and Phoenix on February 21 2021. 86 00:06:09,330 --> 00:06:12,630 They had a bizarre encounter with what its crew described as 87 00:06:12,630 --> 00:06:15,510 a long cylindrical object that almost looked like a cruise 88 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:19,050 missile, moving extremely fast over the top of their aircraft, 89 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:24,360 as it crushed along at 36,000 feet and 400 knots. The incident 90 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,660 occurred over the remote northeast corner of New Mexico 91 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:31,890 to the west of the tiny town of Des Moines. Now two days later, 92 00:06:31,890 --> 00:06:37,650 as I said, Tyler published a update. He says less than 48 93 00:06:37,650 --> 00:06:40,710 hours after our initial reporting on an outright strange 94 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:44,880 incident involving American Airlines Flight 2292, as it flew 95 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,520 at 36,000 feet over the northeastern corner of New 96 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:53,280 Mexico on February 21 2021. We have confirmation that the event 97 00:06:53,310 --> 00:06:57,660 in question did indeed occur and that it is being investigated by 98 00:06:57,660 --> 00:07:02,250 the FBI. The incident involve pilots of the Airbus A 320 being 99 00:07:02,250 --> 00:07:05,670 buzzed by an unidentified cylindrical shaped object moving 100 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:09,000 at high speed which resulted in them querying the FAA is 101 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,990 Albuquerque error, route traffic control center. That was the 102 00:07:12,990 --> 00:07:17,130 reporting. So you can see here that there was there was this 103 00:07:17,130 --> 00:07:21,690 encounter and the FBI in the FAA would be the most logical place 104 00:07:21,690 --> 00:07:26,580 to go now. Tyler also published the actual air traffic control 105 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:30,930 recording, you heard a little bit of it on the introduction, 106 00:07:31,050 --> 00:07:32,850 let me go ahead and play the rest of it here. 107 00:07:36,210 --> 00:07:43,920 ATC Recording: 2292. You have a y targets up here we just had so 108 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,700 ething go right over the top of s. I hate to say this look l 109 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:50,820 ke a long cylindrical object t at almost look like a cruise mi 110 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:53,280 sile type of thing moving really fast, but my right ove 111 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:58,020 John Greenewald: Now that was the recording between the pilot 112 00:07:58,020 --> 00:08:02,460 and the in the in the traffic control center. So utilizing 113 00:08:02,460 --> 00:08:06,090 that reporting, that's what you use as a basis for FOIA requests 114 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,360 for those FOIA people out there. If you're looking for ideas, 115 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,410 then the news media is the best place for that. Now, Tyler's an 116 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:16,440 exception to what I'm about to say, meaning Tyler keeps digging 117 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,460 Joe over there as well. He keeps digging that team over there is 118 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:24,420 why I respect them. Because they continue digging. Most media 119 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:28,680 outlets do not. In fact, most media outlets don't even use the 120 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,790 foyer at all. They will get you know, an anonymous source or 121 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:36,180 some kind of source or somebody in the know, they report on 122 00:08:36,180 --> 00:08:39,060 something and then they they move on, they don't go back to 123 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:43,350 it. It's a great source for what I call FOIA fodder, you look for 124 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:46,650 stories that might be of interest. And I mean, unless 125 00:08:46,650 --> 00:08:50,670 you're looking for, you know, breaking a brand new story, even 126 00:08:50,670 --> 00:08:54,390 though you might be, again, not breaking a brand new story. 127 00:08:54,630 --> 00:08:58,860 That's a great tactic. When you want to expand on the story, you 128 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:01,560 see things and sometimes you will find something that is more 129 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:05,460 breaking news. But again, it's just a great way to dig in and 130 00:09:05,460 --> 00:09:08,340 find documentation. So that's that's an example here. But 131 00:09:08,340 --> 00:09:11,850 again, I do want to credit, Tyler and Joseph and everybody 132 00:09:11,850 --> 00:09:14,970 over there at the drive for digging in themselves. And I'm 133 00:09:14,970 --> 00:09:18,570 sure that they were that they were doing the same. Here is the 134 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,880 FBI letter that I had talked about a few moments ago, were on 135 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:29,880 March 2, and I filed on February 24. That is going to be key in a 136 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,450 couple of minutes. So So put a pin in that I filed on February 137 00:09:33,450 --> 00:09:37,710 24. March 2, they sent me this letter that they were unable to 138 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:42,120 identify records responsive to my request. Now my request, as 139 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,120 you can see here in black and white was about American 140 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:51,510 Airlines Flight 2292 on February 21 2021, about an encounter with 141 00:09:51,510 --> 00:09:55,110 an unknown object over in New Mexico. You can't get more 142 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:59,550 specific than that in the eyes of the foyer. Sometimes if you 143 00:09:59,550 --> 00:10:02,490 don't know date, then you could run into a problem. If you don't 144 00:10:02,490 --> 00:10:05,400 know a location, you can run into a problem. If you don't 145 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,670 know a flight number, you can potentially run into a problem. 146 00:10:08,850 --> 00:10:12,390 But this particular case, as indicated here, had everything 147 00:10:12,390 --> 00:10:15,540 on there. There was no reason that they shouldn't find 148 00:10:15,540 --> 00:10:18,900 documents. So they sent me this no records. I believe I tweeted 149 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:21,840 this out, I couldn't find it prior to recording this 150 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,930 presentation. I think I did. It wasn't even an article, I just 151 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:27,870 tweeted it out and said, the FBI said they didn't find anything, 152 00:10:28,260 --> 00:10:32,490 and kind of moved on because there's, there's really nothing 153 00:10:32,490 --> 00:10:35,760 you can do other than appeal, which I did. And then it's a 154 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,880 waiting game. And I'm still waiting, by the way for that 155 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,590 appeal. But more on that again, in a moment. Here's the FAA 156 00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:48,600 letter, this one dated June 21 2021. Just a day ago from the 157 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,680 recording of this. They say we can neither confirm nor deny the 158 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:56,250 existence of the records that you seek What was I seeking Same 159 00:10:56,250 --> 00:11:00,300 deal, American Airlines Flight 2292. And the encounter on 160 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:05,280 February 21 2021. They also cited a very interesting 161 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,680 exemption, which is B seven E. Now generally, this involves law 162 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:14,580 enforcement, investigation material, so they don't want to 163 00:11:14,700 --> 00:11:20,010 essentially blow their cover, so to speak on how they conduct law 164 00:11:20,010 --> 00:11:23,610 enforcement investigations or hinder a law enforcement 165 00:11:23,610 --> 00:11:26,640 investigation. So what was weird here and I'll read the whole 166 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,530 paragraph. Now, pursuant to four exemptions B seven E, the FAA, 167 00:11:31,530 --> 00:11:34,710 neither can firms nor denies the existence of records, which 168 00:11:34,710 --> 00:11:38,760 would indicate whether an individual or an organization is 169 00:11:38,940 --> 00:11:42,600 or has ever been of investing good Tory interest of the 170 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,510 federal government. Further, acknowledging federal government 171 00:11:45,510 --> 00:11:48,480 interest invites the risk of circumvention of federal law 172 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:51,570 enforcement efforts, therefore, we can neither confirm nor deny 173 00:11:51,570 --> 00:11:54,960 the existence of records that you seek. Now, I felt that I had 174 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,220 an appeal here, I could very well be shot down, so to speak, 175 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:03,300 but the appeal was that they were citing a law enforcement 176 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:09,390 exemption. They didn't want to, in essence, say that American 177 00:12:09,390 --> 00:12:12,390 Airlines was under investigation. But that's not 178 00:12:12,390 --> 00:12:15,330 what the request was about. The request was about the 179 00:12:15,330 --> 00:12:18,900 investigation of an incident and therefore no rights would be 180 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:22,920 infringed upon on a personal or a corporate level, meaning 181 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,760 they're not. They're not essentially labeling slandering 182 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,800 or incriminating any type of organization or individual 183 00:12:31,950 --> 00:12:36,780 rather, I was asking about a certain incident. So I believe 184 00:12:36,780 --> 00:12:40,320 that gave me grounds for an appeal. We'll see what happens. 185 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,030 But I appealed that. Now I want to go back to the FBI. As I 186 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:48,090 mentioned, in the top of this video, I published that very 187 00:12:48,090 --> 00:12:51,300 short article profiling the letters that I just went over 188 00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:54,840 profiling the reporting by the drive and why I believe that the 189 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,830 FAA and or the FBI had responsive records. Okay, so 190 00:12:58,830 --> 00:13:03,990 that that's, that's the overview. About a few hours 191 00:13:03,990 --> 00:13:08,070 after I published that, Robert Powell, friend of this show, 192 00:13:08,070 --> 00:13:11,520 friend of mine for many years, you guys know him well, had 193 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,520 written me and we were starting to talk. I know he's been going 194 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,450 after the FOIA as well, going after the documents via the FOIA 195 00:13:18,450 --> 00:13:22,650 as well. And he had gotten the same denial. So he saw my post, 196 00:13:22,770 --> 00:13:26,580 we started chatting, he had told me about another contact and 197 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:30,630 friend of mine who I've worked with, on and off for many, many 198 00:13:30,630 --> 00:13:36,720 years. He runs the UFO. He runs UFOs Northwest, I should say his 199 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,940 his organization name. And what he does with UFOs Northwest is 200 00:13:41,970 --> 00:13:46,560 is very similar to like the UFO reporting center, is he brings 201 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:50,910 in UFO cases that are sent to him, investigates them where he 202 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:54,690 can he posts videos, post photos, and his name is William 203 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,670 Puckett. Now, I also worked with him when I produced for UFO 204 00:13:59,670 --> 00:14:03,750 hunters. I know that the series itself even Well, before I 205 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:08,310 joined on season three had utilized Mr. Puckett, Mr. 206 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:12,630 Puckett, many, many, many times. So he's very well known, very 207 00:14:12,630 --> 00:14:16,200 knowledgeable. And in fact, you may actually see him on this 208 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:22,050 channel very soon Hinton's. But that being said, he had also 209 00:14:22,050 --> 00:14:28,080 filed a FOIA request to the FBI. And he posted documents about 210 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,060 Eric, American Airlines Flight 2292, and the UFO encounter from 211 00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:36,660 the FBI. Now, you could be saying, Hey, wait a minute. You 212 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:40,410 just showed me a letter that said it was denied that they 213 00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:43,380 couldn't find anything? Well, you're absolutely right. And 214 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:46,290 remember when I said earlier also, that it's good to tackle 215 00:14:46,290 --> 00:14:49,560 this on multiple fronts with multiple people, because you 216 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,250 never know what happens. Why did they tell me they had nothing, 217 00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:57,210 when in fact, they had four pages? I don't know. And I'm 218 00:14:57,210 --> 00:15:02,190 still researching that. I sent a very Turn letter to the FBI 219 00:15:02,370 --> 00:15:05,700 stating that I had to go through the song and dance of an appeal, 220 00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:08,520 which sometimes does not take three and a half seconds to 221 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,210 produce, you have to sit down, write it, and outline why you're 222 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:16,440 appealing a final, final decision and submit it. Why I 223 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,470 had to do that when in reality there were documents that 224 00:15:19,470 --> 00:15:23,190 existed. I don't have an answer to that for you. But I did write 225 00:15:23,190 --> 00:15:26,730 to them and say, Look, this is ridiculous that we all have to 226 00:15:26,730 --> 00:15:30,300 waste our time, when at the end of the day, you guys did have 227 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:35,070 documents and sent it to another investigator. So my credit 100% 228 00:15:35,070 --> 00:15:39,480 for these documents, goes to Mr. William Puckett. So thank you to 229 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,900 him, I talked to him on the phone earlier today, we were 230 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:47,340 unable to do an interview for this video. However, stay tuned 231 00:15:47,340 --> 00:15:50,460 to the channel, because you'll see him coming up soon, in the 232 00:15:50,460 --> 00:15:54,960 next few days. But I did ask him, if I could go over with 233 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,320 full credit to him the documents he did get. Of course, he was 234 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,260 all over that and all for it, because he wanted to share this 235 00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:05,520 with all of you guys as well. So for those watching, I'm going to 236 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,160 show you the documents. For those listening, I'm going to 237 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,550 read through them a little bit as well. That way you guys get 238 00:16:11,550 --> 00:16:15,960 an understanding of what the FBI actually had. Now, like I said, 239 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,630 there were four pages. This was the first page you'll notice 240 00:16:18,630 --> 00:16:24,450 here, the date of March 2 2021. This is called an import form. 241 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:28,590 For those taking notes. It's a form called Fd 1036. And 242 00:16:28,590 --> 00:16:31,500 essentially, you find this quite a bit in FBI files, they're 243 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:34,590 generally I would say, I don't want to call it a cover sheet. 244 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:37,740 But essentially you find this at the top of the stack, so to 245 00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:43,170 speak. It's the synopsis of the particular case or incident. It 246 00:16:43,170 --> 00:16:45,450 tells you a little bit of background and then it goes into 247 00:16:45,450 --> 00:16:48,480 greater detail, which I'll show you in a moment. So this was the 248 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,500 first page. I'm going to read to you here the highlighted portion 249 00:16:52,530 --> 00:16:54,090 of the FBI document, 250 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:59,159 American Airlines Flight 2292 and Airbus A 320. flying from 251 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:03,479 Cincinnati to Phoenix on 221 21 had a bizarre close encounter 252 00:17:03,479 --> 00:17:06,569 with what the crew described as a long cylindrical object that 253 00:17:06,569 --> 00:17:08,969 almost looked like a cruise missile moving extremely fast 254 00:17:08,969 --> 00:17:12,719 over the top of their aircraft at a cruise along of 36,000 feet 255 00:17:12,749 --> 00:17:16,679 at 400 knots. The incident occurred over the northwest 256 00:17:16,679 --> 00:17:19,949 corner of New Mexico to the west of the town of Des Moines, 257 00:17:19,949 --> 00:17:23,729 located east of Raton. American Airlines is instructing 258 00:17:23,729 --> 00:17:28,439 reporters to contact FBI. Albuquerque. What's interesting 259 00:17:28,439 --> 00:17:31,769 here and Mr. Pocket actually pointed this out to me, I missed 260 00:17:31,769 --> 00:17:35,669 it. They're wrong. Here it was the north east corner, which is 261 00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:39,419 where Des Moines was was located or is located. And that's where 262 00:17:39,419 --> 00:17:41,699 the incident took place. So regardless though, they're kind 263 00:17:41,699 --> 00:17:46,019 of setting the synopsis of the case. And that's how they 264 00:17:46,019 --> 00:17:50,669 described it very similar to how Tyler Rockaway had reported it. 265 00:17:51,089 --> 00:17:54,479 Here's page two. Now for those savvy minds, you're going to see 266 00:17:54,479 --> 00:17:58,229 right here the status of the case within the FBI, his 267 00:17:58,229 --> 00:18:04,199 holdings, and that says closed on three to 2021. And underneath 268 00:18:04,199 --> 00:18:08,579 that does not fall within the FBI jurisdiction, put a pin in 269 00:18:08,579 --> 00:18:11,189 that we'll talk about that in a minute as well. You're going to 270 00:18:11,189 --> 00:18:15,359 see a big white box here. Yes, that is all redacted under B 271 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,649 seven e same exemption as cited by the FAA. You see this a lot 272 00:18:19,649 --> 00:18:22,739 in FBI files for just that they're a law enforcement 273 00:18:22,739 --> 00:18:26,669 agency. They don't like to talk about the details of a certain 274 00:18:26,669 --> 00:18:29,969 investigation of blow their tactics and stuff like that. The 275 00:18:29,969 --> 00:18:33,119 exemption B seven breaks down into multiple different 276 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,679 subsections and defines again, where they don't want to reveal 277 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:42,539 too much about their law and law and enforcement investigative 278 00:18:42,569 --> 00:18:46,739 processes. And that is where B seven falls in this, I believe 279 00:18:46,739 --> 00:18:49,799 is probably the most interesting part in my opinion, but it's all 280 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:53,729 redacted. Down here you'll see pretty much what I just read to 281 00:18:53,729 --> 00:18:56,549 you. I'm not going to read it again. But more of the synopsis 282 00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:59,879 on the case. This is the summary. So you'll see that I 283 00:18:59,879 --> 00:19:03,539 read to you the synopsis. Then it gets into more detail in this 284 00:19:03,539 --> 00:19:07,499 report and this form, incident summary. So again, they kind of 285 00:19:07,499 --> 00:19:11,639 go over the same deal. Then it drills down into the notes. I'm 286 00:19:11,639 --> 00:19:14,909 going to read to the notes. Administrative note for 287 00:19:14,909 --> 00:19:19,409 informational purposes on 224 21 writer reached out to the FAA 288 00:19:19,409 --> 00:19:23,099 office in Albuquerque. The FAA is currently aware of the news 289 00:19:23,099 --> 00:19:26,489 articles that have been written on the incident. The FAA is 290 00:19:26,489 --> 00:19:29,699 currently checking their systems to determine if their equipment 291 00:19:30,029 --> 00:19:33,839 picked up other aircraft in the area of American Airlines Flight 292 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:39,689 2292. At the top of the flight was in the northeastern region 293 00:19:39,689 --> 00:19:42,899 of New Mexico. So there that was that was correct with northeast. 294 00:19:43,949 --> 00:19:46,769 This is the bottom part of that note on page three, you'll see 295 00:19:46,769 --> 00:19:53,099 that it's 224 2021. That is the first note in that 296 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:59,220 document on February 24. And you'll see here other notes that 297 00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:02,310 were added on And I won't go through all of them, I invite 298 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:06,450 you to look in the show notes below. That will link you over 299 00:20:06,450 --> 00:20:10,950 to the actual document and and written article where you can 300 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:14,910 download these, see these, see Tyler's articles, so on and so 301 00:20:14,910 --> 00:20:19,050 forth. I'm going to jump down here to 225. I'm gonna read to 302 00:20:19,050 --> 00:20:24,570 you that this is when they contacted the loss nemus I 303 00:20:24,570 --> 00:20:27,540 probably have that pronounced incorrectly. So I'm sorry to all 304 00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:31,800 those in Arizona who are in New Mexico, I should say. That just 305 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,370 cringed at my pronunciation, interview or request information 306 00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:38,100 from members of the public and private entities on February 307 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:43,860 25 2021. At approximately 10:20am Special Agents blacked 308 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:47,430 out spoke to blacked out who worked for Los nemus Sheriff's 309 00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:51,000 Office dispatch, he advised no reports were made in regards to 310 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,080 objects distend descending from the sky, or objects that had 311 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,880 crashed in the area will contact Special Agents again redacted or 312 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,720 special agent redacted at the Albuquerque FBI field office if 313 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,430 future reports are obtained. Again, that was the 25th. Those 314 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:11,640 redactions By the way, very, very common. They don't reveal 315 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,780 Special Agent names. And here you'll see a couple more notes. 316 00:21:15,810 --> 00:21:18,840 Again, I invite you to read all of that at the link below. 317 00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:23,130 Here's page for the last page I'm going to again, you can see 318 00:21:23,130 --> 00:21:25,890 the sections here I'm going to jump down not read everything to 319 00:21:25,890 --> 00:21:30,450 you. But there's a section called disposition. I'm gonna 320 00:21:30,450 --> 00:21:33,870 read to you that few lines, blacked out and redacted. What 321 00:21:33,870 --> 00:21:37,740 you can read. After consultation with FBI Albuquerque chief 322 00:21:37,740 --> 00:21:41,010 division counsel, it was concluded the FBI does not have 323 00:21:41,010 --> 00:21:44,220 federal jurisdiction to investigate this matter. 324 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Therefore, this matter is being closed for information only. 325 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:51,870 However, if additional information presents itself 326 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:56,640 within the scope of FBI, federal jurisdiction, the FBI could 327 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,490 reopen this assessment and perform any investigative 328 00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:05,490 actions deem necessary to have a successful resolution. last line 329 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,840 under disposition does not fall within the FBI jurisdiction. 330 00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:16,170 Why is that? And I'm not sure that I'm still trying to 331 00:22:16,380 --> 00:22:20,130 research this a little bit. But this ties into a much bigger 332 00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:24,570 question. And this will be a future video. But I'm going to 333 00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:30,090 pose this question to you guys. Right now. As you know, the FBI 334 00:22:30,090 --> 00:22:34,650 has wound up in the Senate Intelligence Committees request 335 00:22:34,650 --> 00:22:39,210 for the information from this particular agency, and others to 336 00:22:39,210 --> 00:22:44,220 be evaluated by the UAP Task Force and for the upcoming UAP 337 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:48,420 report hopefully do any day now from the posting of this video. 338 00:22:49,470 --> 00:22:54,030 If the FBI can't investigate what is clearly an unknown 339 00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:58,950 object, flying near an airline, then what is it that they're 340 00:22:58,950 --> 00:23:02,370 doing, because any military encounter is likely going to be 341 00:23:02,370 --> 00:23:06,930 done by the military. And I've got documents to show that when 342 00:23:06,930 --> 00:23:10,380 a drone went into a Navy installation, I believe it was 343 00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:15,870 San Diego, it was NCIS that investigated that. So the 344 00:23:15,870 --> 00:23:19,590 military has investigative arms for encroachments on their own 345 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,680 installations. So why is the FBI seemingly so prevalent in some 346 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:31,020 of these mentions about the UAP Task Force, this UAP report so 347 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:35,370 on and so forth, this seems to me cut and dry could be a drone, 348 00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:39,150 it could be something manmade? Look, you know, let's not go the 349 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:42,210 alien route with this. All I'm saying is if it's not the 350 00:23:42,210 --> 00:23:46,410 jurisdiction of the FBI, then why are they so prevalently 351 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,370 mentioned as of late, and, you know, that's still kind of, in 352 00:23:50,370 --> 00:23:53,550 my opinion, unfolding. Maybe we'll find more about the 353 00:23:53,550 --> 00:23:57,630 report. Last thing I'm going to go over here, before I show one 354 00:23:57,630 --> 00:24:00,660 last thing to you, and then we're going to end this is at 355 00:24:00,660 --> 00:24:03,840 the end of this form is what's called the workflow essentially, 356 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,900 this summarizes all of the different entries. So remember, 357 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:11,040 I said 224 was when they they put the first note, that's when 358 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,520 they created the incident. So it kind of makes a very small 359 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:18,720 summation of what happened with this particular incident, broken 360 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,490 down by date and time, all the way to march 2, closed as 361 00:24:23,490 --> 00:24:27,030 information only obviously, because the disposition states 362 00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:31,830 not part of the FBI is jurisdiction. Okay. So that is 363 00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:35,580 this particular FBI form this incident report broken down. 364 00:24:35,790 --> 00:24:40,710 This is not unique to unknown encounters of airliners. Again, 365 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:46,440 you find these in a ton of FBI files on the black vault comm I 366 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,400 have quite a few of them. It is a fairly common thing to see 367 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,430 nowadays. Here's the last thing that I'm going to point out to 368 00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:56,520 you guys. And maybe you picked up on it as I was going through 369 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:02,220 the dates. I told you to put a pin in February 24 2021 because 370 00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:06,960 that was when I faxed to the FBI that foi request. It says eight 371 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,820 pages, that was actually multiple FOIA requests. So 372 00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:14,610 generally, I faxed them together. That way. I just don't 373 00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:18,330 keep hanging up and faxing again and hanging up and faxing again. 374 00:25:18,570 --> 00:25:22,950 Yes, I do fax because I hate their pet with what's called the 375 00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:26,280 PAL system. I do use it periodically. But for the most 376 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,630 part, I fax it's a lot easier. It's a lot faster. And I wish 377 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:33,450 they did email. But they don't they took that away. So 378 00:25:33,450 --> 00:25:38,880 regardless, there's my proof. There's the fax receipt. 4:03pm. 379 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,410 That is pacific time. Here's that workflow section, I talked 380 00:25:43,410 --> 00:25:50,010 to you about 224 2021 maybe a pure coincidence that the FOIA 381 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:51,690 requests that I had sent in 382 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:58,140 what time is this 7:22pm? Eastern is a Pacific? I'm not 383 00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:01,260 really sure. But regardless, within a couple of hours, they 384 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:04,920 created the incident report, and started creating notes that 385 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,070 evening about the inquiries that we're getting. I've already gone 386 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:11,010 over I was not the only one. So please do not think that I am 387 00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:14,700 insinuating that I was. What I found interesting, though, is 388 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,570 that the case was started the day that I put the FOIA request 389 00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:24,240 in. So how is it that on March 2, I yielded that no records 390 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,720 response that they were unable to find anything. Notice, 391 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,180 however, one other really weird coincidence, March 2 2021, is 392 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:36,600 when they sent that denial to me and said, Hey, sorry, Greenwald, 393 00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:41,520 we can't find anything. And yet internally, when the documents 394 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,080 went to William pocket, look at the date of that final page, or 395 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,160 what I call that final page. It's not technically that March 396 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:57,150 2 2021, the same exact day that they essentially closed out the 397 00:26:57,150 --> 00:27:01,260 incident report and saying that it wasn't FBI jurisdiction was 398 00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:05,370 reflected by the same exact day, they sent out this no records 399 00:27:05,370 --> 00:27:08,400 response to me. Now, what I learned with my conversation 400 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,820 today with William Puckett, was that he as well received a no 401 00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:15,480 records response, however, and he let it go, he didn't appeal. 402 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,340 He didn't pursue it any farther. But then after had received the 403 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:26,250 FBI letter, in the beginning of June, that that essentially 404 00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:34,740 released the records. So that to me, is, I won't say it. I don't 405 00:27:34,770 --> 00:27:39,390 I don't want to talk bad about any foyer office. But I hope 406 00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:43,140 that I showed you guys that I clearly described the records. 407 00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:48,030 And what is really weird is that, again, the date of my 408 00:27:48,030 --> 00:27:52,980 request reflects the date the incident was created. And the 409 00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:57,090 date that I was denied is the date when they close their case. 410 00:27:57,540 --> 00:28:06,990 Now, some may ask if the case is open. Can they lie? And, of 411 00:28:06,990 --> 00:28:11,010 course, they can lie. We've seen that countless times. And I've 412 00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:14,310 profiled it on this channel. They're just not supposed to. 413 00:28:14,550 --> 00:28:18,120 But would it give them the freedom to say, hey, we've 414 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:22,140 gotten nothing on this when the case was still open? And I 415 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:24,750 believe the answer to that would be no, they would not have the 416 00:28:24,750 --> 00:28:29,850 freedom. I have multiple cases I can cite with the FBI, where I 417 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:33,240 requested information on an individual, and the 418 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,770 investigation was still open. They didn't deny it. They didn't 419 00:28:37,770 --> 00:28:40,980 say that there were no records, but rather they denied it 420 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:45,270 because the investigation was open. And that is exemption B 421 00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:49,140 seven, so they will cite something when it is open. And 422 00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:53,280 clearly, this was open during the processing of my request. 423 00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:58,590 And yet they said Nope, sorry. We couldn't find anything. So 424 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:03,210 their action here for those who again, may pose the well maybe 425 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:08,010 they just you know, denied it because it was still open. That 426 00:29:08,010 --> 00:29:12,390 does not coincide with a provable documented history of 427 00:29:12,390 --> 00:29:17,550 how the FBI actually handles themselves in cases in 428 00:29:17,550 --> 00:29:22,830 situations like this. What does that all mean? Well, you decide 429 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,580 it's pretty frustrating for me because I had that request in it 430 00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:31,620 was properly identified and and described, and I was denied 431 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:36,750 anyway. And that is very frustrating and trying to choose 432 00:29:36,750 --> 00:29:39,330 my words carefully there. But I'm always interested in what 433 00:29:39,330 --> 00:29:42,840 you guys have to say. So if you are watching on YouTube, you 434 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,440 know the drill, please, please give me a thumbs up, make sure 435 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,500 you're subscribed to this channel and post your comments 436 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:54,510 below. If you're listening on any podcast form any podcast 437 00:29:54,510 --> 00:29:59,400 platform, please you please know I aim for five stars. So if you 438 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,390 can take Take a moment, review the podcast. 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