1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,710 John Greenewald: Hey everybody, John Greenewald, here with the 2 00:00:01,710 --> 00:00:05,130 black vault radio. While this last Saturday, I decided to do 3 00:00:05,130 --> 00:00:08,490 an AMA or an Ask me anything. Well, if you don't know what 4 00:00:08,490 --> 00:00:12,150 that is, it's simply just that it's your opportunity to write 5 00:00:12,150 --> 00:00:15,330 in, or call in, I have a toll free line when I do these live 6 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:19,590 shows, to literally just ask anything you'd like, well, when 7 00:00:19,590 --> 00:00:22,560 you do something on a Saturday morning, and it wasn't planned, 8 00:00:22,770 --> 00:00:27,390 I had no idea that people would show up. But in reality, 1000s 9 00:00:27,390 --> 00:00:31,860 of people showed up, they all listened, and called in and sent 10 00:00:31,860 --> 00:00:35,820 in their text messages. And it was an incredibly amazing 11 00:00:35,820 --> 00:00:39,450 experience for me, but also very motivating. To do this more 12 00:00:39,450 --> 00:00:42,960 often. While after the show, it was asked that I put that into 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,160 podcast form. So that's what you're about to listen to. Of 14 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:50,790 course, it is long, I didn't expect it to go that long. And 15 00:00:50,790 --> 00:00:53,430 quite possibly, you won't want to listen to two and a half 16 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:57,540 hours of people asking questions and me answering them. But 17 00:00:57,570 --> 00:01:01,110 here's the whole show. I do hope you enjoy. 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Of 29 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,720 course right before I was going to go live camera goes awry. 30 00:02:24,750 --> 00:02:28,020 Everything is out of sync. Everything is blurry, and 31 00:02:28,020 --> 00:02:31,860 nothing worked. So I had to do a quick reset. It looks like 32 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:37,440 everything is working. So if you guys can point, excuse me point 33 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,880 out in the chat. If everything sounds okay. looks okay. If it's 34 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,080 out of sync, if it's blurry, if it's trailing, whatever, let me 35 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,140 know in the chat. Now you're gonna see me look all around. 36 00:02:49,140 --> 00:02:52,470 For those who haven't been to a live stream before. I have four 37 00:02:52,470 --> 00:02:55,440 monitors in front of me. A lot of times my chat is over here. 38 00:02:55,830 --> 00:02:59,400 Sometimes my visuals are up here. And I try and look at you 39 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,350 guys all I can hot sauce. Thank you so much for that Super Chat 40 00:03:04,350 --> 00:03:07,590 donation. I truly, truly appreciate it. Everything that 41 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:09,720 does come in from the Super Chat, just so you guys know 42 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,160 upfront, goes directly into this channel. So it goes towards FOIA 43 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,870 documents, web server hosting, licensing of music and visuals 44 00:03:18,870 --> 00:03:22,620 and fun stuff on this channel that you have hopefully seen. If 45 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:25,530 not make sure you click on the like and subscribe button. And 46 00:03:25,530 --> 00:03:28,170 of course, turn the notifications on so you get 47 00:03:28,170 --> 00:03:31,830 notified of these live streams. Now, things look good in town. 48 00:03:31,830 --> 00:03:35,130 Fine. Yep. Good. Good. All right, that's perfect. So with 49 00:03:35,130 --> 00:03:39,120 live streams, anything goes Honestly, I may have to break. 50 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:43,410 Because my dog starts barking I have positioned my animals. 51 00:03:43,530 --> 00:03:46,230 Because I am so low at the house, I have a pretty big 52 00:03:46,230 --> 00:03:50,700 puppy, and I've opened the door, I've let him out. So he can come 53 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:53,460 in and out. Who knows though if he comes busting through that 54 00:03:53,460 --> 00:03:57,810 door behind me. Again, anything goes. So that's why I enjoy 55 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,740 live. But if I do have to break all apologize in advance, I'll 56 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:04,410 just put a temporary graphic up, go do what I need to do with the 57 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:08,460 dog, and then pull them in. So here's the deal. It's Saturday 58 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:12,780 morning, you guys are still coming in. And that's awesome to 59 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:15,390 me, simply because it is Saturday morning. It's a little 60 00:04:15,390 --> 00:04:18,330 bit early here on the west coast. And obviously on the East 61 00:04:18,330 --> 00:04:21,030 Coast a little bit later, but mid afternoon on a Saturday and 62 00:04:21,030 --> 00:04:24,420 you guys are joining me. So I do appreciate that. So a special 63 00:04:24,420 --> 00:04:28,890 thank you for all of you who are joining me live now with the 64 00:04:28,890 --> 00:04:31,260 chat room just so you know because this is what I call an 65 00:04:31,260 --> 00:04:34,500 Ask me anything or an AMA you'll probably see different 66 00:04:34,830 --> 00:04:38,610 podcasters and YouTubers and stuff do this. I try and do it 67 00:04:38,610 --> 00:04:41,460 every couple months or so because it's the opportunity for 68 00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:45,300 me to essentially interact with all of you. I put a lot of 69 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:48,240 videos out there put a lot of ideas but a lot of documents put 70 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,230 a lot of all sorts of information. And I know that you 71 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:57,570 guys have questions. Travis Dearborn, thank you for that 72 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,840 Super Chat donation man. Really, really true. Appreciate that 73 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:05,700 support. Bow also right behind him both. Thank you. Thank you, 74 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:08,670 thank you, thank you, all of you who are already supporting this, 75 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:13,830 this live stream. So back to this. So I call it an AMA. And 76 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:16,920 again, it's just that it is my opportunity to interact with all 77 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:22,170 of you guys. Now, the I'm gonna put the put the number on 78 00:05:22,170 --> 00:05:26,760 screen. And since I'm kind of frantically trying to bring 79 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,100 everything back online, because before that reboot, I had 80 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:32,400 everything all set up and running. And sadly, with that, 81 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,670 reboot, everything obviously is shut off. So I'm kind of 82 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,910 starting all of that again. But I'm going to put the toll free 83 00:05:38,910 --> 00:05:42,870 line to call in, this is how the priority goes on the Ask me 84 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:45,180 anything priority is going to go to the Super Chat questions, 85 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:48,060 because I can see them out of the corner of my eye. If I do 86 00:05:48,060 --> 00:05:51,870 miss anything, I'm going to apologize in advance. Trust me, 87 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:56,010 I will either get to it in this show, just kind of keep asking 88 00:05:56,010 --> 00:06:00,390 if you can. But the Super Chat is really big, and they get 89 00:06:00,390 --> 00:06:03,600 blasted. So I see that text messages, you'll see a text 90 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,100 number two, that literally goes right to my phone. So I will be 91 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:11,310 able to read those a lot easier than the chat room questions 92 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,330 away from the Super Chat. And, of course, a toll free line. Now 93 00:06:15,330 --> 00:06:20,670 I've also got an Of course, I lost it on that reboot, I just 94 00:06:20,670 --> 00:06:23,640 realized. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to try 95 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,570 and pull up really quick, the Twitter questions, because that 96 00:06:27,570 --> 00:06:30,870 was going to get me started. And I do have this is the joy of 97 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:34,590 live guys. I mean, this is this is what we do. So I posted a 98 00:06:34,590 --> 00:06:37,350 thing out there on Twitter had quite a few questions all in a 99 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:42,270 Word document, ready to print. And I think in my frantic reboot 100 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,150 deleted it. So let me pull that up. We'll just kind of go 101 00:06:45,150 --> 00:06:46,860 through them one by one 102 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,290 as we go through. So let me switch screens, what I'm going 103 00:06:52,290 --> 00:06:57,000 to go ahead and do is put on the call in line, and the text line. 104 00:06:57,510 --> 00:07:01,800 And again, that is your opportunity to call in. I do ask 105 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:05,790 this if I pull you in and put you on hold, you will hear hold 106 00:07:05,790 --> 00:07:08,910 music, my voice doesn't feed back until I bring it onto the 107 00:07:08,910 --> 00:07:12,750 show. Just make sure you turn down your speakers. That way we 108 00:07:12,750 --> 00:07:16,230 don't get feedback. So make sure you turn that down. But I will 109 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:18,960 pull you on. It's a queueing system. So it's going to tell 110 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,340 you what what position you are in line. And again, second in 111 00:07:23,340 --> 00:07:26,610 line third in line depending upon how many people call, so 112 00:07:26,610 --> 00:07:32,220 we'll be able to do that. So we're already starting all the 113 00:07:32,220 --> 00:07:36,000 way from Canada. Actually. Let me go ahead and pull on this 114 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,230 caller from from Canada. Hey, thanks so much for for calling 115 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:41,940 in. You're Live on the Air. Who's this? 116 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:47,550 Unknown: Thomas from? Ontario, Canada, I actually called in 117 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:50,370 before, but a lot has happened since then. 118 00:07:50,580 --> 00:07:52,380 John Greenewald: A lot has happened. Yeah. I haven't done 119 00:07:52,380 --> 00:07:56,130 this in a while, obviously. But Thomas, thanks for calling in 120 00:07:56,130 --> 00:07:58,680 again. What's your What's your question? What can I do for you? 121 00:08:00,090 --> 00:08:03,060 Unknown: So my question was about the recent statements made 122 00:08:03,060 --> 00:08:07,950 by the NASA director? Yes, I was. So I was just wondering, 123 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:10,740 what's your take on that? And do you think that's a big deal that 124 00:08:11,190 --> 00:08:12,480 he's what he said? 125 00:08:13,710 --> 00:08:16,710 John Greenewald: I do think it's a big deal, simply because 126 00:08:16,740 --> 00:08:20,280 government agencies, and obviously the NASA Administrator 127 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:26,700 Bill Nelson is talking about UFOs. And let me before I miss 128 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:32,310 this, Jenny Lloyd and Steven, who has been a longtime fan of 129 00:08:32,310 --> 00:08:36,030 this site, but also more so a friend. I remember meeting 130 00:08:36,030 --> 00:08:40,050 Stephen more than 20 years ago. You guys, thank you so much. For 131 00:08:40,050 --> 00:08:44,520 all of those super chats. Let me also thank Philip, I'm sorry, I 132 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,580 missed that. I'll get to your question, Philip in a moment. So 133 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:50,460 thank you guys for the Super Chat. So before I lost that, I 134 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:52,890 wanted to make sure I thank them. So back to your question. 135 00:08:52,890 --> 00:08:55,110 I think it's very, very important because this is the 136 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:57,750 first time that government agencies, and the sitting 137 00:08:57,750 --> 00:09:01,800 directors and the administrators are actually commenting on it. 138 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,650 For those who missed it. Bill Nelson started talking about how 139 00:09:04,650 --> 00:09:08,580 they are looking into essentially uaps. And if there 140 00:09:08,580 --> 00:09:11,700 is evidence that potentially there's life out there, they're 141 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:15,420 going to take an interest in it. That is why I feel that it's 142 00:09:15,420 --> 00:09:19,440 important because after all of these years, those types of 143 00:09:19,740 --> 00:09:24,480 people, either elected officials or appointed officials have 144 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,540 never really commented on it. They've never talked about it, 145 00:09:27,540 --> 00:09:30,960 and they pretty much shy away from it or if they do talk about 146 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,990 it make a joke. And it seems like there's a shift now that 147 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:38,070 they are taking it seriously. What's going to happen with this 148 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:41,310 report once it comes out. That's anybody's guess. I'm sure you 149 00:09:41,310 --> 00:09:44,700 guys will have questions about that and we'll get into it. But 150 00:09:44,730 --> 00:09:48,840 the the reality of Bill Nelson talking about it, definitely a 151 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,800 big deal. When they did their press conference, and I think I 152 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,830 posted this video on this channel. When they did the press 153 00:09:55,830 --> 00:09:58,200 conference, Bill Nelson had kind of said that they were taking 154 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,990 the UAP phenomena seriously, and the passed it to one of their 155 00:10:00,990 --> 00:10:05,310 scientists. And they call him Dr. z, I believe, I don't know 156 00:10:05,310 --> 00:10:08,400 how to pronounce his full name. I think it's Dr. z. And 157 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:12,240 essentially, what he kind of spiraled into was more the 158 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,400 search for extraterrestrial life in the cosmos, versus, I guess, 159 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,460 the search for extraterrestrial life in our atmosphere, if that 160 00:10:20,460 --> 00:10:23,910 makes sense. So he kind of spiraled into what NASA is more 161 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:27,900 known for, for trying to find find life. But at least the 162 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:31,020 administrator kind of acknowledged these Navy videos. 163 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,020 And essentially, they were taking it seriously. So long 164 00:10:34,020 --> 00:10:36,240 winded way to answer your question. I know, but I at least 165 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,580 wanted to give some groundwork for those who aren't familiar. 166 00:10:38,610 --> 00:10:42,990 But yeah, it's absolutely important. You're still there, 167 00:10:42,990 --> 00:10:47,070 Tom? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. So do you have any 168 00:10:47,820 --> 00:10:52,380 Unknown: seems like a big a big shift in the public's perception 169 00:10:52,380 --> 00:10:56,670 of this issue. And it's just it's one more example. 170 00:10:57,270 --> 00:11:00,780 John Greenewald: It is. Yeah. And there's quite. There's quite 171 00:11:00,780 --> 00:11:04,110 a few. Do you have any? Yeah, go ahead. Alright. That's okay. 172 00:11:05,460 --> 00:11:07,350 Yeah. Do you do you have any ideas on? 173 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,130 Unknown: Like, why there's been this significant shifts in the 174 00:11:11,130 --> 00:11:13,920 past year? Because it doesn't seem like there's any new 175 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:20,430 information. It's more just like there's been a narrative change. 176 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:25,050 I mean, I mean, new information in terms of what the government 177 00:11:25,050 --> 00:11:28,950 agency says, yeah. New information. For obviously, 178 00:11:28,950 --> 00:11:32,460 there's new information for us, as citizens. Yeah, I 179 00:11:32,460 --> 00:11:32,730 think. 180 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:39,270 John Greenewald: I'm not sure what the true core reason is. 181 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:43,290 But it's fascinating. And and, I mean, I wish I had a more 182 00:11:43,290 --> 00:11:46,230 eloquent answer for you. But I don't think there there is one. 183 00:11:46,590 --> 00:11:51,840 I do think that peer pressure, as silly as that sounds, plays a 184 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,520 role in this meaning that the mainstream media hounding on 185 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,450 this topic, sometimes very bad reporting, other times very good 186 00:12:00,450 --> 00:12:05,160 reporting. But regardless, this massive interest, and 187 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,830 essentially, pressure from the mainstream media and the general 188 00:12:07,830 --> 00:12:10,950 public that's reading those articles, I think, is absolutely 189 00:12:10,950 --> 00:12:16,260 playing a role in in in the shift. And the reason why I say 190 00:12:16,260 --> 00:12:20,880 that is that that there has been a shift in tone with the media, 191 00:12:21,150 --> 00:12:24,360 again, sometimes very bad reporting, and I very much harp 192 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,020 on that, because I do think it's it's bad reporting in many 193 00:12:28,020 --> 00:12:33,630 cases, but it's a serious toned, bad recording, reporting, if 194 00:12:33,630 --> 00:12:37,860 that makes sense. And so what I think happens as a result of 195 00:12:37,860 --> 00:12:43,770 that, is with that serious tone, what happens to the government 196 00:12:43,770 --> 00:12:47,430 and the elected and appointed officials, is they realize if 197 00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:50,880 they just kind of start dismissing this again, and fall 198 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,600 back on their jokes, that you're going to have even more peer 199 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,440 pressure from the general public going, Hey, wait a minute. This 200 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,980 may or may not be aliens, that's not the point. But if if the 201 00:13:01,980 --> 00:13:05,790 most highly trained fighter jet pilots are, are coming forward, 202 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:10,050 and they're talking about this, and they're scared or fearful 203 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:12,840 about what these objects are, in some of the interviews, they 204 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,920 talk about that, that essentially that that fear that 205 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,830 trepidation of is this a? Is this something I'm going to have 206 00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:23,760 to fire upon? Or or evade? Are they going to fire upon me, 207 00:13:24,270 --> 00:13:27,300 there's an issue there. And if they continue that, that 208 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:32,070 fallback of I that's, you know, little green men, haha, that 209 00:13:32,070 --> 00:13:35,280 would not bode well for them. So I think that they were forced to 210 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,720 do the shift. And then once they did that shift, now that has 211 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,830 paved the way for them to do this report, what that report, 212 00:13:43,830 --> 00:13:46,230 again, will entail, I think, is anybody's guess. But I think 213 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:48,180 that that plays a huge role in the shift. 214 00:13:49,530 --> 00:13:52,350 Unknown: And even even not just military pilots, commercial 215 00:13:52,350 --> 00:13:56,340 pilots to a plane full of passengers that have things 216 00:13:56,340 --> 00:13:58,830 flying right over them. And they have no idea what they are. And 217 00:13:58,830 --> 00:14:00,000 the FAA doesn't, either. 218 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:02,790 John Greenewald: That's right. And I think we're starting to 219 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:07,740 hear more and more about that. We're also seeing, or at least 220 00:14:07,740 --> 00:14:10,560 the general public is seeing that this is something that has 221 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,740 gone on for decades, right? This is not anything that started in 222 00:14:13,740 --> 00:14:18,270 2017 with the discovery of a tip and then boom, all of a sudden 223 00:14:18,270 --> 00:14:22,200 we have this phenomena. No, it has stretched back decades upon 224 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,160 decades upon decades. And some of the most interesting stuff 225 00:14:26,850 --> 00:14:30,120 I'll be it happened decades ago, happened when the government 226 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,180 said they had no interest in it. And I think people again, 227 00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:37,050 general public wise, are waking up to that reality that this has 228 00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:40,290 been a phenomena that's been around for a long time, and it's 229 00:14:40,290 --> 00:14:43,890 nothing new and pilot encounters both commercial and military. 230 00:14:44,190 --> 00:14:47,940 Again, there's there's nothing new about that, although it's 231 00:14:47,940 --> 00:14:50,910 great that they're getting on 60 minutes and talking about it, 232 00:14:51,150 --> 00:14:53,730 and so on and so forth. But I think people are definitely 233 00:14:53,730 --> 00:14:58,890 waking up to the reality. This is nothing new. You're sure 234 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:04,170 yeah. So Thank you. Yeah, go ahead. Alright, 235 00:15:04,350 --> 00:15:06,600 Unknown: just I don't know if you caught this. But recently 236 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,640 there was an interview with Sam Harris. 237 00:15:10,530 --> 00:15:13,380 John Greenewald: I did not catch it, to be honest with you, but 238 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:18,420 I, I've heard rumbles about it, that he was like asked to go in 239 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:24,780 and play a role in disclosure or something like that. But I find 240 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:31,470 it very strange. I don't know. You know, claims like that. My 241 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:37,440 problem with that is if if, if you really was asked to do that, 242 00:15:37,890 --> 00:15:41,970 he was probably asked not to talk. I mean, I would think that 243 00:15:41,970 --> 00:15:45,390 he would be asked not to talk about it until it happened. So 244 00:15:45,390 --> 00:15:48,450 for me when I hear claims like that, and claims like that are 245 00:15:48,450 --> 00:15:53,340 nothing new, either these big, grandiose claims of people being 246 00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:57,150 on the inside or playing an instrumental role in some world 247 00:15:57,150 --> 00:16:00,270 shifting event. I don't know the man Personally, I know he's 248 00:16:00,270 --> 00:16:03,690 incredibly popular as a huge following. I just don't know 249 00:16:03,690 --> 00:16:06,930 really anything about him. But again, how I approach claims 250 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:11,190 like that is, that's great. But until it happens, or until we 251 00:16:11,190 --> 00:16:16,020 see something, I just kind of take it for what it's worth, you 252 00:16:16,020 --> 00:16:19,560 know, and sadly, a lot of those types of claims never pan out. 253 00:16:19,740 --> 00:16:23,250 So Time will tell I mean, hey, if we have disclosure tomorrow, 254 00:16:23,580 --> 00:16:26,790 I'll be a happy camper, especially if he's out there 255 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:29,910 spearheading it, or was, you know, consulted on it? But 256 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:33,840 regardless, I just, I just take those things as with a grain of 257 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,630 salt. And if it happens, it happens. If not, I wouldn't be 258 00:16:36,630 --> 00:16:41,250 surprised. Yeah, and there have been a lot of celebrities making 259 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:49,710 big claims recently like Baker Mayfield. Yes. So that's the 260 00:16:49,710 --> 00:16:52,050 other problem with celebrities, too, is they kind of hop on the 261 00:16:52,050 --> 00:16:56,340 bandwagon. And do they want the press because celebrities when 262 00:16:56,340 --> 00:16:59,310 they come out? God bless them, you know, get a ton of press, 263 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:02,310 but like, why, you know, I mean, that's, that's great that, you 264 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:05,310 know, celebrity XYZ, because I don't want to put anybody on the 265 00:17:05,310 --> 00:17:08,940 spot, but either saw a UFO or they're interested or whatever. 266 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:11,580 But look at how much press they get, you know, and they're 267 00:17:11,580 --> 00:17:15,360 entertainers and they they live for that press and publicity and 268 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:18,120 this, that and the other thing. So I'm not saying that nothing 269 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,490 happened to celebrities like that, but it's just always a 270 00:17:20,490 --> 00:17:25,080 major red flag for me when stuff like that happens. So like Tom 271 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,770 DeLonge? Sounds a bit. I mean, who knows? But sounds a bit out 272 00:17:28,770 --> 00:17:31,830 there. Yeah, I guess we'll find out. I think a lot. A lot of 273 00:17:31,830 --> 00:17:34,770 those celebrities are quite a bit out there. But anyway, man, 274 00:17:34,770 --> 00:17:38,460 I truly appreciate you calling. I'm not trying to cut you off. I 275 00:17:38,460 --> 00:17:40,410 just want to get to some of these questions here that are 276 00:17:40,410 --> 00:17:43,500 piling up. But thank you so much for calling in from from Canada. 277 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:47,160 Man. I really appreciate it. And I hope you call in again. Thanks 278 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,970 for having me. Thank you anytime. All right. So numbers 279 00:17:50,970 --> 00:17:53,130 are on the screen. I've got tons of text messages that we're 280 00:17:53,130 --> 00:17:55,860 going to get to here. There was one that I promised that was a 281 00:17:55,890 --> 00:18:00,930 chat. Excuse me, a Super Chat from Philip or Felipe, where do 282 00:18:00,930 --> 00:18:05,160 you think UAP phenomena is? Well, that's a great, very 283 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:10,200 generalized question and one that that can simply be answered 284 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,950 this way. I mean, it's up but you know, I mean, it's, it's in 285 00:18:13,950 --> 00:18:16,950 our skies, there's no denying that the phenomena is definitely 286 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:21,600 here. The so it's, it's real. There's there's no, there's no 287 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,310 way about it. The question mark, though, is what it is, is it 288 00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:29,340 alien? Is it top secret military technology? We're not really 289 00:18:29,340 --> 00:18:32,820 sure. And I know that there's a lot of people that are new. And 290 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:36,120 I'm not sure if you, sir, are new to the to the topic or been 291 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:39,240 around for a long time. But I think that one thing if you are 292 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,220 new or newer to it, that you know, definitely look at the 293 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:47,640 history behind the phenomena, how long it's been around, where 294 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,450 it's being seen both in our skies and in our water, you 295 00:18:51,450 --> 00:18:53,700 know, going in and out of our water. There's a lot of cases 296 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:58,620 that have been bantered about lately. So where it is, there's 297 00:18:58,620 --> 00:19:02,280 your physical locale what it is, that would be an even bigger 298 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,670 question and one that's very, very hard to answer. So I hope 299 00:19:05,670 --> 00:19:10,380 that that helps you a little bit there. With with your question, 300 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,190 let me go ahead and pull. Let me pull another caller onto the 301 00:19:14,190 --> 00:19:19,950 line. Who's this? Hey, john, plan be calling from New York. 302 00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:24,360 Hey, there, how are ya? Good, how you doing? I'm good. Thank 303 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:25,410 you. What's your question? 304 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:29,940 Unknown: Well, I just want to start off and say that I've been 305 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:33,720 a big fan of your work for a long time. I think we're both 306 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:37,140 roughly around the same age. I've been following you since 307 00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:42,300 the 90s. And just really proud of to see how you've progressed 308 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:45,690 with the channel and, and all the success you've been having. 309 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,800 John Greenewald: I appreciate that. Thank you. Now, back to 310 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,620 business. Oh, sounds like a good one. 311 00:19:53,790 --> 00:19:56,400 Unknown: You know, you know, there's a lot of action going on 312 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:02,190 out there in the UFO field and you know, I'm a little skeptical 313 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:06,900 of some of it. But I'm just wondering, do you have any sort 314 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:10,770 of fear that this sort of disclosure movement is being 315 00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:17,190 used as like an excuse to maybe implement some sort of space war 316 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:20,730 fighting domain? Well, look, 317 00:20:20,730 --> 00:20:22,950 John Greenewald: I mean, that that's definitely part of a 318 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:25,350 bigger, I don't want to call it conspiracy theory, because I 319 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:29,220 don't want to diminish it. But that's definitely part of of the 320 00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:32,910 theory of some secret agenda behind this that, is there 321 00:20:32,910 --> 00:20:36,630 something that is going to play a role in funding our space 322 00:20:36,660 --> 00:20:39,990 warfare, the space force is still relatively new. Is it all 323 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:43,680 connected? And I'm not sure about that. I mean, I think for 324 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,590 me, I look at it more simplistically, in the fact that 325 00:20:46,590 --> 00:20:49,440 this phenomena is real, I think they finally have been convinced 326 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,940 of that, meaning the general consensus of the US government 327 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:58,020 that they've been convinced. And so they, they have to figure out 328 00:20:58,020 --> 00:21:02,700 what it is, if if they meaning the government starts funding, 329 00:21:02,730 --> 00:21:07,470 you know, space, whether it be technology, or the space force, 330 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,860 and connecting it to the UAP phenomena. I think that in 331 00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:15,210 itself would be not only very telling, but also it would be 332 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:20,130 kind of a big interest to the general public in a bad PR kind 333 00:21:20,130 --> 00:21:23,430 of way. So I think that what's going to happen when the 334 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:26,430 government addresses this more and more, is they will do 335 00:21:26,430 --> 00:21:31,050 everything they can to separate the space domain versus UAP. 336 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,170 Because if they connect it, then the general public will connect 337 00:21:34,170 --> 00:21:37,890 it and say, Aha, this is this is definitely leaning towards an 338 00:21:37,890 --> 00:21:40,830 alien thing. And I don't think they want that. I think that's a 339 00:21:40,830 --> 00:21:46,440 PR disaster. So yes, it's a very prevalent theory. I'm just not 340 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,400 sold on it yet. 341 00:21:48,990 --> 00:21:53,400 Unknown: Hmm. And what is it about this, that we are so sure 342 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,360 that this is in US military technology? I know they've come 343 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:00,030 out and said, Well, this isn't ours. But I mean, if it was 344 00:22:00,060 --> 00:22:03,120 ours, would they even say that, you know, originally? I mean, 345 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:07,050 they just seems logical that they would deny that it was our 346 00:22:07,050 --> 00:22:08,850 technology in the first place. 347 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,730 John Greenewald: I think it's a great question. When it comes to 348 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:15,270 videos that the US military itself has said, we cannot 349 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:19,770 identify these, there are two options. They're lying, which we 350 00:22:19,770 --> 00:22:22,860 know they've done it in the past. So are they lying? Now? I 351 00:22:22,860 --> 00:22:26,010 mean, that's anybody's guess. Or the second option is they're 352 00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:28,920 actually telling the truth. They have no idea what these things 353 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,270 are. I pushed on those original three videos, which again, for 354 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:37,050 those who aren't aware, those are officially unidentified 355 00:22:37,050 --> 00:22:40,320 flying objects or unidentified aerial phenomena. And that is 356 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:45,030 the true designation of those three videos. My connection to 357 00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:47,850 that was that I was able to get the Navy to first go on the 358 00:22:47,850 --> 00:22:52,440 record about it in September of 2019. When that story then 359 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,790 broke, I started pushing the Pentagon asking them, okay, 360 00:22:57,420 --> 00:23:01,350 let's, let's try and figure out is there some other explanation 361 00:23:01,350 --> 00:23:06,600 here? And I pushed the Pentagon for an answer on would a branch 362 00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:11,250 of the military, let's say the US Air Force, test, top secret 363 00:23:11,250 --> 00:23:15,120 or classic, you know, classified technology against the US Navy 364 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:19,200 without their knowledge. Because at the end of the day, you now 365 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,110 have the Navy who's actually telling the truth that they have 366 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:26,790 no idea what those objects are, because they were not read in as 367 00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:30,270 as a military branch. And the US Air Force that's testing this 368 00:23:30,270 --> 00:23:33,810 highly classified technology, does it against the Navy, I 369 00:23:33,810 --> 00:23:38,310 thought that that was plausible. I wasn't trying to prove it, 370 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,540 rather than I just wanted to see what they would say. And they 371 00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:45,210 came back and said that they would never do that, that they 372 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:48,990 would never test without the Navy's knowledge, any type of 373 00:23:48,990 --> 00:23:53,010 classified technology. So that was a interesting revelation 374 00:23:53,010 --> 00:23:56,040 doesn't sound real big. But for me, it was fascinating, because 375 00:23:56,190 --> 00:23:59,760 that was an out for them. That was an out to say, yes, 376 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,580 potentially, they could could test classified technology. 377 00:24:03,210 --> 00:24:07,650 Maybe they won't admit that 2004 Nimitz encounter was, but 378 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:10,860 speaking in broad strokes, would they say it, and they said that 379 00:24:10,860 --> 00:24:15,360 they would never do it. So that in itself proved Okay, if the 380 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,970 government really doesn't know what these things are. And from 381 00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:23,610 2004 to 2019, when I wrote that story, originally, if they were 382 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,990 unable in that amount of time, to truly figure out what these 383 00:24:28,020 --> 00:24:32,520 objects were, does that ultimately rule out on identify 384 00:24:32,550 --> 00:24:36,660 or does that ultimately rule out classified objects that were 385 00:24:36,690 --> 00:24:40,680 being captured by these f 18 pilots? And I mean, I'll let all 386 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,190 of you guys decide. But it's, it's interesting. So are they 387 00:24:44,190 --> 00:24:46,590 lying? You know, are they just saying Yeah, yeah, we have no 388 00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:49,680 idea what these things are. But in reality, they know darn well 389 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,100 what they are maybe, and and I wouldn't surprise me because 390 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:56,880 I've caught him in many lies before. But one one thing I will 391 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,510 point out to you as well, and I'm sure we'll get more into 392 00:25:00,510 --> 00:25:05,160 this into the channel, or as this video progresses on this 393 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:11,370 channel, in that the leaked post gimbal go fast and FLIR videos. 394 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,370 So the ones from Jeremy core Bell, and George Knapp, the 395 00:25:14,370 --> 00:25:18,390 videos and the briefing slides and the photographs. I pushed to 396 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:21,570 see what the Pentagon would designate them as, because the 397 00:25:21,570 --> 00:25:25,590 Pentagon said, Yes, they're real. Yes, they were taken by US 398 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:29,220 Navy pilots. And yes, they're utilized by the UAP Task Force. 399 00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:32,430 And those answers came very, very quickly. What they would 400 00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:36,420 not do after being pressed upon it was give a designation, do 401 00:25:36,420 --> 00:25:38,820 they know what they are? Are they unidentified? Are they 402 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:41,940 uaps? Are they balloons? Are they drones? Are they classified 403 00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:45,900 tech? Nothing, they wouldn't comment on that. And I feel that 404 00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:49,590 that is part of a bigger story that has yet to be written yet. 405 00:25:49,890 --> 00:25:53,580 That they will not comment on the designation of those they 406 00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:56,490 did on the FLIR gimbal and go fast. But everything that came 407 00:25:56,490 --> 00:25:59,940 out after and leaked out after they won't touch. What does that 408 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:02,940 mean? I mean, I have a couple guesses. But I just wanted to 409 00:26:02,940 --> 00:26:06,600 throw that out there that that I think those aspects of the story 410 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,770 plays a much bigger role. 411 00:26:08,970 --> 00:26:11,760 Unknown: Hmm. Yeah. And, you know, I don't want to take up 412 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,820 all your time here. But you mentioned though, I hear this a 413 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:19,920 lot. Everyone talks about people being read in or briefed in. And 414 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,250 I'm wondering, you know, who are these people that are doing the 415 00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:25,980 briefing? You know, because a lot of people talk about, oh, 416 00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:28,890 well, this president wasn't read in or this person wasn't read 417 00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:32,580 in? Well, who's in charge of that? Who is in charge of the 418 00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:36,000 government and reading these things into people? Because it 419 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,510 seems like if the president isn't read into these UFO 420 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:42,840 programs, then there must be some sort of, quote unquote, 421 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,510 Shadow Government operating behind the scenes. I mean, what 422 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:47,370 what's going on there? Yeah, I 423 00:26:47,370 --> 00:26:48,600 John Greenewald: mean, I think the people that are doing the 424 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,150 briefing of the ones that are not elected officials, they're 425 00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:53,700 not appointed officials. Rather, they're people behind the 426 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:58,500 scenes, military, brass, those cleared for whatever knowledge 427 00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:02,280 there is to be gained from this phenomena. They're cleared to 428 00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:05,670 see it, understand it, and even you know, write about it and 429 00:27:05,670 --> 00:27:11,010 brief others about it. I've dug through the the Navy archives of 430 00:27:11,010 --> 00:27:16,170 emails and tried to trace around to who was involved. And so I've 431 00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:19,200 got some articles on the black vault. I'll I'll after this 432 00:27:19,230 --> 00:27:24,630 stream. Somebody remind me to dig that link up. But I'll be 433 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:28,200 more than happy to post it for you. But essentially, you you 434 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,290 can see some of the names that again, you don't see every day 435 00:27:31,290 --> 00:27:35,970 in the press, if at all, that were the ones that were involved 436 00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:40,140 in crafting the UAP related statements. If I were a betting 437 00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:44,310 man, which I am, I would say that those are the people away 438 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:46,980 from the spokespeople. Those are the people, those are the 439 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,620 individuals that are responsible for the briefings. And again, 440 00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:52,620 it's people that are not doing press conferences every day. 441 00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:55,650 They're not elected officials. They're not speaking to the 442 00:27:55,650 --> 00:27:58,770 general public, they're working behind the scenes. And when it 443 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,220 when it's appropriate, and they do the briefing. Marco Rubio 444 00:28:02,460 --> 00:28:05,580 comes in Mark Warner comes in, they get the briefing from 445 00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:09,150 individuals like that. And then they come out of their 446 00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:11,970 classified briefing. And you know, don't tell anybody, 447 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,090 anything what they heard. But I think that that's that that's 448 00:28:15,090 --> 00:28:19,590 what you're talking about. Right? Yeah. So hey, thanks so 449 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:22,380 much for your call. No, thank you, john, thanks for taking the 450 00:28:22,380 --> 00:28:24,600 call. You're awesome. appreciate all the work. 451 00:28:24,629 --> 00:28:26,789 I appreciate that you take care of yourself, and definitely 452 00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:30,269 calling in the future. I appreciate it. Take care of you 453 00:28:30,269 --> 00:28:33,749 as well. And so thanks for your patience, everybody. I'm getting 454 00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:36,539 lots of questions. So these are always exciting, especially as 455 00:28:36,539 --> 00:28:39,809 the channel grows, and the audience number grows. I want to 456 00:28:39,809 --> 00:28:43,019 go back to the chat room on a Super Chat. This is from Wald 457 00:28:43,019 --> 00:28:48,719 hammer coming in, and I really appreciate your support on that. 458 00:28:48,719 --> 00:28:54,749 So thank you. Your question posted in the Super Chat saw a 459 00:28:54,749 --> 00:28:57,299 great question in chat earlier, and I wanted to make sure you 460 00:28:57,299 --> 00:29:00,899 saw it. Have you ever submitted a FOIA on yourself and what has 461 00:29:00,899 --> 00:29:06,149 come up? If so, great question. And the answer is yes. A couple 462 00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:09,929 years back, and I've done this a couple times. And it's funny, 463 00:29:09,929 --> 00:29:12,179 actually, I mean, when you request on yourself, 464 00:29:12,209 --> 00:29:15,329 essentially, you're probably talking about an FBI file. The 465 00:29:15,329 --> 00:29:20,549 FBI has been known to watch organizations, people, you know, 466 00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:24,569 and what they're doing. I am officially on and this isn't a 467 00:29:24,569 --> 00:29:29,999 joke. I'm officially on what's called a victim list on the FBI. 468 00:29:30,449 --> 00:29:34,439 And what that means is is that I am annoying as heck, if you 469 00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:37,769 don't know what the word vexen means. There is a very small 470 00:29:37,769 --> 00:29:41,819 list of individuals but more so organizations that essentially 471 00:29:41,819 --> 00:29:46,229 are the problem childs of the oil world. Those that can I've 472 00:29:46,229 --> 00:29:47,909 heard a couple of different reasonings, those that can 473 00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:51,779 garner media attention for their foi requests, those that can 474 00:29:52,289 --> 00:29:55,859 write and get a lot of reach. So if they release something of 475 00:29:55,859 --> 00:29:59,219 importance, this small list of people can create an issue 476 00:29:59,579 --> 00:30:04,199 essentially A PR nightmare. And so that that they've created 477 00:30:04,199 --> 00:30:09,659 internally a list of of what they call vec. Some requesters 478 00:30:09,659 --> 00:30:13,799 are vexen people. And I'm one of the few actual individuals 479 00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:17,279 that's listed versus organization. So you see some of 480 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:22,199 the bigger media outlets that really push for stories. So I do 481 00:30:22,199 --> 00:30:27,359 know that I'm on that list. But I have requested a file on me, 482 00:30:27,989 --> 00:30:31,589 where, you know, if they've been either watching me or they have 483 00:30:31,589 --> 00:30:35,249 some kind of whatever behind the scenes, one of the quicker 484 00:30:35,249 --> 00:30:40,379 responses I ever got from the FBI, and they said, No. So it 485 00:30:40,379 --> 00:30:43,139 doesn't seem plausible that I don't have any type of file, but 486 00:30:43,139 --> 00:30:47,219 I'm on this back some list, quite possibly. Who knows? I 487 00:30:47,219 --> 00:30:51,119 really don't know. But regardless, that's what the FBI 488 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:56,249 has said. So no file on me, but I definitely annoy the heck out 489 00:30:56,249 --> 00:31:00,959 of that agency. interesting side note, the IRS is actually has 490 00:31:00,959 --> 00:31:04,889 their own vaccine list. They don't call it that. But they as 491 00:31:04,889 --> 00:31:08,579 well kind of keep track of who can create a problem for that 492 00:31:08,579 --> 00:31:12,389 agency, essentially, through FOIA, and the attention that 493 00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:15,209 their releases can get through certain outlets or through 494 00:31:15,209 --> 00:31:20,459 certain individuals on that list as well. So I'm, hopefully never 495 00:31:20,459 --> 00:31:24,389 never get audited, because they hate me so bad. So I haven't 496 00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:27,929 gone through that yet. But they do have these internal problem 497 00:31:27,929 --> 00:31:31,499 lists. And that's a badge of honor. I'm on a couple of them. 498 00:31:31,829 --> 00:31:35,969 Dan, James. Dan, thank you so much for that Super Chat. Let me 499 00:31:35,969 --> 00:31:38,309 read it all together here for the first time Lieutenant Ryan 500 00:31:38,309 --> 00:31:41,189 graves indicated both he and other pilots, were seeing ua 501 00:31:41,189 --> 00:31:45,629 peas on a daily basis for years. So is, is this report's number 502 00:31:45,629 --> 00:31:50,849 of 120 instances seem a little light and a deliberate downplay. 503 00:31:51,929 --> 00:31:55,169 So that's a great question that that that was to me was the 504 00:31:55,169 --> 00:31:58,229 biggest revelation out of the New York Times recent article 505 00:31:58,259 --> 00:32:02,069 about the UAP report. Now, God bless the New York Times, and 506 00:32:02,069 --> 00:32:05,339 all the journalists that come along with that. But if you 507 00:32:05,339 --> 00:32:08,369 watch this channel, I've harped on their reporting in the past 508 00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:11,369 simply for their inaccuracies. And you don't need to take my 509 00:32:11,369 --> 00:32:14,249 word for it, you can take the word of their corrections that 510 00:32:14,249 --> 00:32:18,569 they've been forced to post on a couple of their claims. So if 511 00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:24,089 there is truth to this, right, and their article of 120 cases 512 00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:29,009 that the UAP Task Force has investigated or looked into, if 513 00:32:29,009 --> 00:32:34,379 there's truth to that, I'm excited, because that, to me, is 514 00:32:34,379 --> 00:32:38,729 a much bigger number than I thought. Does it seem light? 515 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:43,169 Well, again, it's it seems heavy to me, that they're 516 00:32:43,169 --> 00:32:46,409 acknowledging that much. But based on the testimony of Ryan 517 00:32:46,409 --> 00:32:49,649 graves, and what he has said, He seems like a very cool guy. I've 518 00:32:49,649 --> 00:32:52,769 talked to him a couple a couple times, and no reason to doubt 519 00:32:52,769 --> 00:32:56,069 what he is saying, at all. But that if they were having these 520 00:32:56,069 --> 00:33:00,149 encounters every day for a couple years, to me, it seems 521 00:33:00,149 --> 00:33:06,029 like that's a huge story. And that we should have been made 522 00:33:06,209 --> 00:33:09,839 more aware of that at this point, or that there should be 523 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,769 more material available at this point. I don't know what to 524 00:33:13,769 --> 00:33:17,519 think of that. At the end of the day, I truly don't. But it's 525 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:21,449 like when stuff like this happens in in bulk, right, and 526 00:33:21,449 --> 00:33:24,479 you have so many different encounters. And that's a lot of 527 00:33:24,479 --> 00:33:26,579 pilots, right? I don't think that that's like four or five 528 00:33:26,579 --> 00:33:29,969 pilots flying around the same waters for a couple years. My 529 00:33:29,969 --> 00:33:33,509 guess is you have a much larger list of names of men and women. 530 00:33:34,499 --> 00:33:36,839 And And truly, God bless them for their service to this 531 00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:39,959 country. But you've got a longer list of the men and women that 532 00:33:39,959 --> 00:33:44,159 have been flying in and around that area, or the radar 533 00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:47,699 operators or the ship personnel that are out on deck with their 534 00:33:47,699 --> 00:33:50,789 field binoculars and see something in the sky or fill in 535 00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:54,389 the blank. There's a lot of people that would be involved in 536 00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:57,509 something like that. And we only have a handful of people that 537 00:33:57,509 --> 00:34:00,749 are speaking about it and a very small amount of quote unquote, 538 00:34:00,749 --> 00:34:05,819 leaked photographs and videos essentially. So when you have 539 00:34:05,819 --> 00:34:10,979 something that's happening that prevalently I would think at 540 00:34:10,979 --> 00:34:14,279 this point, we would see more of it, or at least I would hope so. 541 00:34:14,489 --> 00:34:17,639 And we haven't doesn't mean anything doesn't mean that that 542 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,029 Ryan graves is wrong. I'm just saying I'm surprised that more 543 00:34:21,029 --> 00:34:25,859 has not come out. So if and when that happens, I hope it does. 544 00:34:26,789 --> 00:34:29,609 We'll see but, but those are my thoughts on that. 545 00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:34,620 Another Super Chat, bn any thoughts on Jeremy Corbyn oil 546 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:39,720 leaks? Absolutely. I've got some thoughts. First of all, I don't 547 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:42,330 like anonymous sources and I don't like leaks, plain and 548 00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:46,740 simple. I've always been that way for 25 years, I've run the 549 00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:49,890 black vault. I've gotten myself in trouble with some people when 550 00:34:49,890 --> 00:34:53,400 I speak out against leakers and whistleblowers that bring out 551 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,680 potentially classified information or definitely 552 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,230 classified information. I think that's a problem. So The issue 553 00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:08,130 aside, what intrigues me about Jeremy stuff is the fact that 554 00:35:08,130 --> 00:35:11,730 the government has quickly acknowledged that it's real, 555 00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:15,420 that it's quickly being acknowledged, it's utilized by 556 00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:20,160 the UAP Task Force. So the question mark is why, why with 557 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,280 that, and I'll go back to what I pulled in 510 minutes ago with a 558 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,580 caller? Why won't the government say that they're unidentified? 559 00:35:26,850 --> 00:35:30,990 So all that stuff that's coming out of Jeremy and George, and 560 00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:33,720 kudos to them for bringing it out? Because it's being 561 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:38,400 confirmed by the Pentagon? Why is it that the Pentagon will not 562 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,200 comment on the designation? And I don't know why, why that is, 563 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:47,970 it will not surprise me if we see these leaks in the UAP task 564 00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:53,160 force report, and being used as essentially examples of stuff we 565 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,670 can identify. Now, I can absolutely be wrong on that. 566 00:35:56,670 --> 00:35:59,820 That's a guess. And if it's not in the report, and that doesn't 567 00:35:59,820 --> 00:36:03,180 happen, I guarantee some people will, you know, harass me on 568 00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:06,690 social media going Ah, you said that this would be, you know, in 569 00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:09,690 the report uses a primmer. Again, that's just speculation 570 00:36:09,690 --> 00:36:12,750 and a guess. But I do believe the fact that they did not 571 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:17,160 designate this yet, is part of the story. Here's another aspect 572 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,920 to it, I'm why I say that a lot of times a designation, it has 573 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,790 the potential for being classified. So when you talk 574 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:31,200 about the gimbal FLIR and go fast videos, the designation 575 00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:35,760 officially is confirmed as being UAP. So they consider 576 00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:38,730 unidentified aerial phenomena are depicted in those videos, 577 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:43,560 that tells me as a researcher, that the designation of UAP is 578 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,580 not a classified designation, because those can't exist. So 579 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:50,970 the the fact that they will label something UAP, and we can 580 00:36:50,970 --> 00:36:57,180 prove it shows that it is not classified. So what happens now 581 00:36:57,390 --> 00:37:00,570 is why won't they on this other stuff? Because we can rule out 582 00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:03,750 Well, it's not a classified issue. It's not not designated 583 00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:07,800 top secret or secret or whatever. So why won't they do 584 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,720 that? And the question mark remains, so we will see as time 585 00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:17,010 unfolds, I've had I've had a caller here on hold from 586 00:37:17,010 --> 00:37:20,280 Phoenix. And so I apologize. You were on hold there for a while. 587 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,140 Who's this? Oh, no 588 00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:24,540 Unknown: problem, sir. Mr. Greenwald, thanks very much for 589 00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:27,540 having me on. My name is Ivan. I'm from Gilbert, Arizona. Hey 590 00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:32,130 there, how are you? I'm doing pretty well, sir. Thank you. So 591 00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:35,550 I'll try to make my point. My points actually kind of quick, 592 00:37:35,550 --> 00:37:40,140 and then I'll move on. Because I know you're busy there. So we 593 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:44,760 want it's quite obvious to me that this phenomenon, there's 594 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,800 something to it, right. I mean, you have all these witnesses and 595 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,530 whistleblowers and things that we've seen, particularly people 596 00:37:52,530 --> 00:37:54,360 in the military, and even before that. 597 00:38:00,660 --> 00:38:03,540 John Greenewald: I hate, I hate to interrupt you, but you're 598 00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:10,140 really breaking up. So I guess, do you hear me now? I can, 599 00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:13,680 Unknown: yeah. Nothing. So I'm just going to make my point. And 600 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,310 then I'll leave? Sure. I think at this point, we basically have 601 00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:20,700 no choice. I think that if if people are going to start taking 602 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:26,640 this seriously. And you know, like the media has already kind 603 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,660 of put this behind the, you know, it looks like in advance 604 00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:35,490 and that story. Correct. So I think a wonderful whistleblower 605 00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:39,300 does not have to release some real, real clear footage, 606 00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:45,120 something that people that's completely undeniable. I 607 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,420 understand that sometimes, you know, this might be I mean, I'm 608 00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:51,000 not condoning it. But I think this is so important that 609 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,700 somebody has to basically put their freedom on the line. 610 00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:57,330 There's no other choice. You know, the government's never 611 00:38:57,330 --> 00:39:02,100 going to tell us the truth. They be hiding this question, or they 612 00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,430 won't even tell us the truth on the origins of the virus, what 613 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:07,980 makes you think they're going to tell us the truth about UFOs? 614 00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:13,200 You know, they're never going to tell us the truth, ever. So 615 00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:15,930 that's the only way, you know, and I think this is something 616 00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:18,870 big enough that, you know, the world is crumbling and 617 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:22,170 collapsing. And it's, you know, it's a story like this that will 618 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,550 unify the whole world. I just don't see any other feature, to 619 00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:30,210 be honest with you without first being exposed and everything 620 00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:33,810 else. I mean, it's just I think it's time for us to somebody has 621 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:36,390 to stick their neck out. You know, yeah. 622 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,550 John Greenewald: No, I, I got you there. So let me I'm gonna 623 00:39:41,550 --> 00:39:44,610 answer your question here. I'm only going to disconnect it just 624 00:39:44,610 --> 00:39:47,190 because of the the audio so I'm going to apologize to you. I'm 625 00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:51,450 not trying to cut you off. I can get off the line now. Yeah, that 626 00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:54,570 was just my point, sir. No problem. And I appreciate your 627 00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:56,760 call. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm sorry that connection 628 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:02,040 wasn't ideal on my side, but so Yeah, so so thank you for your 629 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,060 call. Let me really quickly what I had gleaned from that because 630 00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:08,730 I know it was a little bit challenging to hear was the 631 00:40:08,730 --> 00:40:10,620 government is never going to tell us the truth. And 632 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:12,990 essentially, we're going to need somebody that really does blow 633 00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:16,410 the whistle and come out and tell us the real information. 634 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,030 That is a very interesting aspect to this that a lot of 635 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:25,440 people don't realize or deal with. And the reason is, is 636 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,310 because, number one, the government has lied and has lied 637 00:40:29,310 --> 00:40:31,950 for quite some time, right? Like nobody can 638 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,530 hide from that it is the most easily provable cover up, in my 639 00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:39,960 opinion. And I've dealt with every government secret over the 640 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,930 last 25 years, and UFOs is the most challenging. So why is it 641 00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:49,740 in 2021? that some people think, aha, this is it, we're gonna 642 00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:53,850 have finally the truth. This is disclosure, this is they're 643 00:40:53,850 --> 00:40:58,320 gonna reveal secrets that have been maintained for decades. I'm 644 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,530 not sure why people are so hopeful of that nothing has 645 00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:06,300 truly shifted, that would make them do that. There's been a 646 00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:10,590 shift to make them acknowledge it. But that's a lot different 647 00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:14,910 than them coming clean. And I think that that, for me, anyway, 648 00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:18,420 is one of the bigger aspects to this story that nobody is 649 00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:23,130 realizing the same people that are really rooting for this 650 00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:26,280 report to come out, are the ones that never believe the 651 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,780 government anyway. So how can those things go hand in hand? If 652 00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:33,390 on one hand, you say the government lies all the time, 653 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,760 and on the other hand, you're saying, haha, this is it, 654 00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:37,770 they're going to come out and tell us the truth. Finally, and 655 00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:41,250 this is going to be disclosure? How is that possible? we don't 656 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,000 we don't there's a huge disconnect there. So that's why 657 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,340 I'm yeah, optimistic to see it. But I said on a show yesterday, 658 00:41:50,370 --> 00:41:53,130 where I was being interviewed, we talked about this. And I'll 659 00:41:53,130 --> 00:41:56,370 bring it up again, where I'm more interested in the 660 00:41:56,370 --> 00:42:01,170 background. How did that report get made? Who was talking about 661 00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:04,530 it? What are those 120 cases because you know, darn well, 662 00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:09,660 that 120 of them are not going to be in there. So what are they 663 00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:13,230 and and that's what I'm going to go after the moment that that 664 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:17,400 report is released, you could bet your bottom dollar, I'm 665 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,710 going to have 3500 FOIA requests filed by mid day whenever that 666 00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:27,150 happens. So again, going back to the caller's question, I think 667 00:42:27,150 --> 00:42:30,600 that there's a big issue that a lot of people don't deal with, I 668 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,440 don't see a shift that they're going to come clean. The shift 669 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,690 at this point is only the acknowledgement that the 670 00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:41,760 phenomena, whatever it is, is real and warrants something new 671 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,620 and more. So we'll see, you know, again, what happens when 672 00:42:46,620 --> 00:42:50,250 this report comes out. But I would just tread carefully. 673 00:42:50,250 --> 00:42:53,610 That's my biggest advice for everybody is tread carefully, 674 00:42:53,610 --> 00:42:56,940 because again, who's to say that they're not going to be either 675 00:42:56,940 --> 00:43:00,960 lying through their teeth or, or what and continue what has been 676 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,440 going on for decades. And that's not conspiracy talk for those 677 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,850 that are maybe new to this topic that is provable by the evidence 678 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,900 that the US government will give you. So that cover up that I 679 00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:16,770 talked about that so easily proven, that is only using their 680 00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:20,670 own evidence, no leaked material, no secret insider 681 00:43:20,670 --> 00:43:23,850 information, no anonymous sources. That is all through the 682 00:43:23,850 --> 00:43:27,150 Freedom of Information Act. And there are 1000s and 1000s of 683 00:43:27,150 --> 00:43:31,950 pieces of paper that I can show you some declassified, in full, 684 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:35,610 others are still classified to this day. But that all tells a 685 00:43:35,610 --> 00:43:40,110 story that there is a major major cover up here. Let me go 686 00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:44,280 to the Super Chat again. And make sure I'm not missing 687 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,420 anything. So again, guys, I'm sorry, the chat itself is really 688 00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:53,550 hopping. There's, I'm showing more than 400 of you all in the 689 00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:56,400 chat room right now watching this live. So that is awesome. 690 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,490 So thank you for that. So there's no way I can watch that 691 00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:02,730 chat. What I can see because they're gigantic squares on my 692 00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:06,300 monitor over here are super chats. And those really really 693 00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:09,480 stick out makes it helpful. So that's why you're seeing me 694 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,210 prioritize those because they're very, very helpful to the 695 00:44:12,210 --> 00:44:17,160 channel. But obviously I can see them Have you seen the my UFO 696 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,430 propulsion version 4.0 theory posted on on Reddit, what are 697 00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:26,190 your thoughts on that? So dark horse, so no h on there? I was 698 00:44:26,190 --> 00:44:30,330 expecting an H Dark Horse. Thank you for that Super Chat. And 699 00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:32,910 Man, I wish I had a better answer for you, especially since 700 00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:37,230 your support in the channel. I'm not familiar with that. I do. I 701 00:44:37,230 --> 00:44:41,520 do traverse Reddit from time to time, you'll see my posts on 702 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,460 there and I like to just kind of lurk and see what's posted 703 00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:46,410 there. But I'll be honest with you if that was something the 704 00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:50,670 last day or so I have been totally off of Reddit for the 705 00:44:50,670 --> 00:44:53,940 most part. So I did not see that. So man, I'm really sorry I 706 00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:56,730 don't have a better answer for you. But I will look into that 707 00:44:56,730 --> 00:45:00,810 and drop me an email. All of you can but it's just Very simple 708 00:45:00,810 --> 00:45:04,860 and straightforward, john, at the black vault.com. And I will 709 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,430 definitely get to that. So before I get to the caller, 710 00:45:08,460 --> 00:45:11,460 there are so many text messages that have come in. Let me see if 711 00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:15,720 I could bang out a couple of these as we as we go here. Give 712 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:16,560 me one second. 713 00:45:20,940 --> 00:45:24,960 Hey, john, just wondering, have you been paying any kind to the 714 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,410 attention that China has been giving to UAP stuff lately been 715 00:45:28,410 --> 00:45:30,600 seeing rumors that they are taking it all very seriously, 716 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,510 you want to bring up the issue? In the UN? Do you believe that 717 00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:35,940 this is pushing a more transparent government at all? 718 00:45:36,210 --> 00:45:40,260 Thanks for all you do. Thank you for the text message. In short, 719 00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:43,590 yes, I'm following it. I do believe that other countries, 720 00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:48,930 especially world powers are seeing the seeing the interest 721 00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:52,710 in the UAP phenomenon, and also the potential concern of a 722 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:58,140 security risk. And it also could be, it also could be strategic 723 00:45:58,170 --> 00:46:00,780 on their end. And let me explain that in a second. But I think 724 00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:03,720 that they're probably seeing all of that information come to 725 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:07,770 light. They're realizing that citizens on a global scale are 726 00:46:07,770 --> 00:46:13,050 likely concerned that if it is not China, or Iran, or Russia or 727 00:46:13,050 --> 00:46:17,490 even America, who are they? So the times we live in are a big 728 00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:21,660 concern to general Siddons citizens around the world. So I 729 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:24,690 think that that they would essentially have to or be forced 730 00:46:24,690 --> 00:46:27,990 to look into that a little bit in the same respect. What if 731 00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:30,330 they are Chinese? Right? There's a big question out there. What 732 00:46:30,330 --> 00:46:34,530 if they're Russia or China? And some have said, No, there's no 733 00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:37,800 way that it's Russia or China? Well, let's just play a 734 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,540 strategic Intel game for a second or counter Intel game, in 735 00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:47,880 that what if they are? So the prime way to deter people from 736 00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:50,640 looking at you is to say, Yeah, we got no idea what these things 737 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,520 are, either. And when in reality, they're they're Chinese 738 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,660 drones or whatever. I'm not betting my my house on that, by 739 00:46:57,660 --> 00:47:00,300 the way. So please don't think that that's what I'm saying. I'm 740 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:02,310 throwing out the idea and concept that from a 741 00:47:02,310 --> 00:47:06,480 counterintelligence perspective, it plays a value to say we have 742 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,300 no idea what these things are, when in reality, they're theirs. 743 00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:15,300 And that same tactic is true for us. And we can't forget that. 744 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,090 Even though the government says that they won't lie about 745 00:47:18,090 --> 00:47:20,850 classified tech that they may say we can neither confirm nor 746 00:47:20,850 --> 00:47:25,500 deny or whatever, there is potentially a value to give the 747 00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:29,430 aura that they're clueless. Yet in reality, it's their own 748 00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:32,880 technology. Again, not betting my house on it, but it's 749 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,640 something that we have to consider too. We can't anymore. 750 00:47:35,940 --> 00:47:39,630 I'll get two more text messages. Here's another Super Chat one 751 00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:42,960 galactic beat galactic beat. Thank you so much for your 752 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,030 support of the channel. keep hearing about a large black 753 00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:48,360 triangle ship coming out of the water with exceptional quality 754 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,900 video, possibly from Navy 2019. Have you heard of this? Can you 755 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:54,870 speak more? galactic bead? I only laughed because it is a 756 00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:57,390 great question. And it's one that's frustrating. And here's 757 00:47:57,390 --> 00:48:01,440 why. There are so many rumors out there. And this is one of 758 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,390 them, where people talk about or make claims using only anonymous 759 00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:10,650 sources. And again, I've said it in this stream. And on this 760 00:48:10,650 --> 00:48:14,130 channel, many times anonymous sources are so frustrating 761 00:48:14,130 --> 00:48:17,940 because you can't verify or authenticate anything. You are 762 00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:21,330 simply left with either the blogger or the journalists 763 00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:27,600 promise that they vetted the anonymous source. But how do we 764 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,870 know? You know, and I'll use the New York Times and sadly throw 765 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:33,570 them under the bus because they've earned it in their 766 00:48:33,570 --> 00:48:36,660 reporting in the past. And they even named their source of Harry 767 00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:42,120 Reid, saying that he said that that he believed the background 768 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,410 with some of these crashes was that they were offworld vehicles 769 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,080 essentially insinuating they were aliens, The New York Times 770 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,500 later retracted that, so how do we know? Right? That's the New 771 00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:56,280 York Times that's not Joe blows blog anymore? That's the New 772 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,200 York Times and yet they are forced to to retract and correct 773 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,970 statements like that. That's a huge thing to say, to a former 774 00:49:05,970 --> 00:49:09,600 gang of eight senate majority leader and attribute Hey, we're 775 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,970 seeing offworld vehicles. That doesn't, that doesn't compete 776 00:49:14,970 --> 00:49:18,960 with me that a major mainstream outlet like that would make that 777 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,560 mistake yet they do. So my bigger point with pointing that 778 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,070 out is how do we know them? These smaller outlets are these 779 00:49:26,070 --> 00:49:30,210 blogs that often tout anonymous sources are either being 780 00:49:30,210 --> 00:49:34,800 truthful or not being misled themselves, this triangle photo 781 00:49:34,830 --> 00:49:37,740 from everything that I know about it, and please correct me 782 00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:41,100 in the chat if I'm wrong, but everything that I've known about 783 00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:43,710 it is yes, it's a rumor. Yes, people are bantering about it. 784 00:49:43,950 --> 00:49:47,430 And I think you even have one or two people that have hinted that 785 00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:50,580 they've seen it or whatever. Yep, they can prove nothing at 786 00:49:50,580 --> 00:49:56,940 this point. So until we see it, to me, I guess it doesn't exist 787 00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:02,280 because in the grander scheme of the UFO world For decades, we've 788 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,640 heard these rumors most of which don't pan out. So I'm not trying 789 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,980 to be a negative Nancy about it, because it is a great question. 790 00:50:08,010 --> 00:50:14,850 I'd love to see that. But you're talking about something that at 791 00:50:14,850 --> 00:50:18,330 this point has no supporting evidence that any of us can 792 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,890 verify. And so that take that for what it's worth. 793 00:50:24,660 --> 00:50:28,260 And they make sure there's no one there. Okay. And I apologize 794 00:50:28,260 --> 00:50:31,770 yet again, collar been hanging there for quite a while. And I 795 00:50:31,770 --> 00:50:37,320 appreciate you doing that. Who's this? Hi, john. This is Joe. And 796 00:50:37,350 --> 00:50:40,290 from Ohio. Hey, Joe from Ohio. Thanks for calling in. I'm so 797 00:50:40,290 --> 00:50:42,420 sorry that you were on hold there for a while. What can I do 798 00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:42,780 for you? 799 00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:46,200 Unknown: No, I appreciate you taking my call. I'm going to try 800 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,720 to be brief, just to be respectful of everyone else's 801 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:53,160 time as well. But my question does have a slight bit of build 802 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,900 up to it. So I don't know how familiar you are with like Dr. 803 00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:03,930 help put off and Dr. Eric Davis. But it seems as though recently 804 00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:10,230 there's been some interesting comments made by Lou Elizondo, 805 00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:15,420 and both as Richard Dolan interview, and also in Tucker 806 00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:19,710 Carlson about crash retrieval, and then hasn't really gone into 807 00:51:19,710 --> 00:51:24,510 much detail on it just stated it. But in any case, it was 808 00:51:24,510 --> 00:51:28,920 after he did that on Tucker Carlson that Dr. Eric Davis, who 809 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,970 is, you know, a faculty member it Baylor's Physics Department. 810 00:51:34,050 --> 00:51:38,790 He came out and stated that blues assertions were 1,000% 811 00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:41,970 correct, but that he couldn't comment further because of MBAs. 812 00:51:42,540 --> 00:51:45,720 Now, obviously, people making comments isn't the same thing as 813 00:51:46,170 --> 00:51:50,730 actual proof or evidence. But it is interesting that all of these 814 00:51:50,730 --> 00:51:54,630 comments are coming out at the same time. And I guess, within 815 00:51:54,630 --> 00:52:01,980 the last couple of days, Mr. Or Dr. Put off, it also confirmed 816 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:08,070 that the special National Intelligence estimate from 1961 817 00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:11,760 that was like supposedly about crash retrieval that had been 818 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,080 leaked was an was actually a leak. I'm still skeptical 819 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,100 myself, because it was, you know, this is the whole mj 12 820 00:52:20,130 --> 00:52:23,640 type conspiracy theory that has been out there for a long time. 821 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,250 But I'm just wondering if you would be willing to comment on 822 00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:29,460 that. Maybe I know, you've given thoughts on it in the past. But 823 00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:33,180 does any of the new media probably doesn't change your 824 00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:36,330 opinion at all? Does it? I mean, until we have actual evidence 825 00:52:36,330 --> 00:52:38,640 besides commentary? Yeah, 826 00:52:38,670 --> 00:52:41,430 John Greenewald: I mean, I don't want to say that it doesn't, you 827 00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:45,660 know, change my, my theory at all, just because I want to be a 828 00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:48,480 skeptic or debunker. There's just no evidence of it. And in 829 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,840 fact, on this channel, I've done a video on that. And IE that put 830 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,560 off has hinted at that was real, because he made a comment in a 831 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,790 speech a couple of years ago about it, if that truly is 832 00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:06,120 confirmed that that's what he's referring to. I mean, I, in my 833 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,470 opinion, I believe that ni ees is a hoax, and not real. And 834 00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:14,130 that's what's kind of worrisome about some of this. The other 835 00:53:14,130 --> 00:53:16,620 thing too, and I've talked to Dr. Put off, and I mean, no 836 00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:21,090 disrespect to him or anyone, really. But the problem is, is 837 00:53:21,090 --> 00:53:23,940 that when you do and conversations like this, and 838 00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:27,720 questions, where they say, you know, we we have an NDA or 839 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:30,480 security clearance, we can't talk about it, it makes it 840 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,260 really challenging, you know, to confirm anything. And the other 841 00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:36,990 thing is, you see a lot of the same names and a lot of stories 842 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:41,130 and stories that have survived even well before a tip, some of 843 00:53:41,130 --> 00:53:44,370 which are highly controversy, look at how Dr. Hall put offs, 844 00:53:44,730 --> 00:53:49,020 you know, connection or alleged connections to project serpo and 845 00:53:49,020 --> 00:53:53,280 stuff like that stuff that is, again, really not holding any 846 00:53:53,790 --> 00:53:58,710 true weight of legitimacy. You had mentioned Dr. Eric Davis. 847 00:54:00,270 --> 00:54:03,210 He's one that I'm sorry to say has also been caught 848 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,780 disseminating false information and put in a public domain, 849 00:54:07,110 --> 00:54:10,230 which I tried to respectfully point out and, and he didn't 850 00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:13,650 like that very much. But I feel that it needs to be pointed out 851 00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:16,680 and I don't know what it is. I'm talking about broad strokes. 852 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,190 Now. Not anybody in specifics, but I'm not sure if people like 853 00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:23,100 that in that group in that world. And people that have 854 00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:26,220 worked in classified tech and stuff like that, if they like 855 00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:29,670 the aura that they are just more read in than they really are. 856 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:34,020 You know, are they into that? I don't know. I really don't. But 857 00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:37,530 it seems to me that that is an impression that I get these 858 00:54:37,530 --> 00:54:41,820 leaked documents again, there's just no indication that they are 859 00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:46,530 real. And when this offworld vehicle talk came and then 860 00:54:46,530 --> 00:54:49,140 you've got the Wilson Davis documents floating around, 861 00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:52,710 there's so much mud that has been thrown in the water. It's a 862 00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:57,480 shame because if there truly is material that has been retrieved 863 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:05,460 from UAP meaning is a craft of, you know, a highly advanced, I'm 864 00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:09,060 trying to get my words careful here. But if they receive 865 00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:12,270 something from a highly advanced piece of technology that they 866 00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:15,900 deem as a UAP, I just don't think that people would even be 867 00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,230 walking around talking about it or even hinting about it, 868 00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:22,050 because you're talking about something that would be highly 869 00:55:22,050 --> 00:55:26,610 classified in nature. And the mere existence of it would be 870 00:55:26,610 --> 00:55:29,910 something that anybody with a high classification wouldn't 871 00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:33,390 touch it, they just don't see it. I mean, how many people? 872 00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:37,110 This is a rhetorical question I'll throw out there, how many 873 00:55:37,110 --> 00:55:41,160 people were out there, hinting that they were working on like 874 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,130 the B two stealth bomber, or the f 117? Before they were ever 875 00:55:44,130 --> 00:55:47,760 officially acknowledged? I'm not aware of any that were out there 876 00:55:47,790 --> 00:55:50,490 hinting and go getting pressed with questions. And then they 877 00:55:50,490 --> 00:55:54,120 go, I've got an NDA can't talk about it. No, those men and 878 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,280 women were behind the scenes, they weren't talking about 879 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,280 anything. And so that's where I think history plays a very 880 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,690 important role. When you try and decipher some of these leaks. 881 00:56:03,690 --> 00:56:07,170 And the Bible is are like stories, and even Bob Azhar 882 00:56:07,170 --> 00:56:10,890 himself. I'm sorry, there's people that have leaked true 883 00:56:10,890 --> 00:56:14,130 classified information. And where are they, they're either 884 00:56:14,130 --> 00:56:17,850 in jail or hiding in a hole, literally, you know, support 885 00:56:17,850 --> 00:56:22,170 them or not. You can't hide from the fact that they're in jail or 886 00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:27,810 hiding in some embassy somewhere or in a hole. So you can look at 887 00:56:27,810 --> 00:56:31,110 history on true classified information coming out, and what 888 00:56:31,110 --> 00:56:35,130 happens to the person, but in the UFO realm, it's like people 889 00:56:35,130 --> 00:56:39,150 can walk around and hint about stuff and even outright claim 890 00:56:39,150 --> 00:56:42,510 stuff and nothing ever happens to them. People made claims the 891 00:56:42,510 --> 00:56:45,990 Bible is ours, history was erased and stuff like that. But 892 00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:49,170 we don't we don't really see true evidence that that that 893 00:56:49,170 --> 00:56:52,230 happened, you know, and you dig into these stories. You see that 894 00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:55,650 a lot. So I hope that wasn't too long winded. But I answered your 895 00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:58,650 question. And again, I'm not trying to be a negative nancies 896 00:56:58,650 --> 00:57:01,980 skeptic about it. It's just it's so hard with these leaked 897 00:57:01,980 --> 00:57:04,860 documents and claims to verify it all. 898 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,950 Unknown: No, I totally understand that. And I know 899 00:57:07,950 --> 00:57:12,030 you've done an immense amount of work, you know, digging into a 900 00:57:12,030 --> 00:57:15,030 lot of these stories, and, you know, providing a very 901 00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:18,480 thoughtful analysis on it. So appreciate you for doing that. 902 00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:21,660 And thank you for taking my call. Oh, anytime. And I really 903 00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:23,430 appreciate it. hope that answered your question. But 904 00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:24,000 thank you. 905 00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:29,310 John Greenewald: All right. So there is a super chat question. 906 00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:34,080 Hot sauce. Thank you so much for that donation to the Super Chat. 907 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,110 Are you scheduled for any upcoming events or recommend 908 00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:40,860 any? So COVID has obviously been a challenge for everybody more. 909 00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:44,760 So for me, watchers of the channel, no, my wife works in a 910 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,440 COVID unit. Now knock on wood, the consensus in COVID units 911 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,000 nationwide, are very much down at this point. So things are 912 00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:57,120 kind of turning around. So I hope that that stays true. But 913 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,630 it's made appearances very, very difficult. As the world open 914 00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:04,140 opens back up, I've had to turn a couple down, just simply 915 00:58:04,140 --> 00:58:08,100 because of scheduling. But man, I am eager to get back out there 916 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:11,460 in the physical world, lecturing, it's one of my most 917 00:58:11,460 --> 00:58:15,150 favorite things to do. But for now, I don't have anything 918 00:58:15,150 --> 00:58:18,150 scheduled just because I've had to turn a couple appearances 919 00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:22,440 down. And it comes down to scheduling. But as again to 920 00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:25,890 census looks good. And in COVID numbers, my wife schedule won't 921 00:58:25,890 --> 00:58:29,130 be too insane. I've got two children, a seven year old and a 922 00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:33,270 two year old, which are two monster challenges in my life. 923 00:58:33,810 --> 00:58:36,630 But that aside, yeah, I'm definitely interested in getting 924 00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:40,410 out there. So for now anyway, scheduled in the digital world 925 00:58:40,410 --> 00:58:44,130 right here on the YouTube channel. So hopefully that will 926 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,240 answer some of your question there. Let me get some chat, 927 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,620 chat text messages here. Where might leaks to core Bell and nap 928 00:58:52,650 --> 00:58:55,470 be coming from what might be the purpose? Can we absolutely be 929 00:58:55,470 --> 00:58:57,810 sure it's coming from the US government and not someone on 930 00:58:57,810 --> 00:59:01,380 the outside possibly even foreign? All great questions, 931 00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:05,310 none of which anybody has the answers to probably other than 932 00:59:05,340 --> 00:59:09,600 Jeremy korbel. And George Knapp, in my opinion, why the 933 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,730 government is talking about this so quickly, is something that is 934 00:59:14,730 --> 00:59:17,970 of big interest to me. I've mentioned it already in this 935 00:59:17,970 --> 00:59:22,320 video. I won't go over it again. But the speed that they have 936 00:59:22,530 --> 00:59:27,240 essentially been doing this confirming these leaks, I think 937 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,140 is very intriguing. When it comes to the UAP taskforce. I 938 00:59:31,140 --> 00:59:33,690 think Christopher Mellon is the one that's gone essentially on 939 00:59:33,690 --> 00:59:36,750 the record and posted out there. It's incredibly underfunded. And 940 00:59:36,750 --> 00:59:39,360 there's very few people involved. So if this is coming 941 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,590 from the UAP Task Force, my I would imagine that the list of 942 00:59:43,590 --> 00:59:47,310 suspects of those that would be the leaker so to speak, would be 943 00:59:47,310 --> 00:59:53,190 very, very small. Or are are these just readily passed around 944 00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:57,840 to Navy personnel and one of those people were the ones that 945 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,810 leaked it which then is set again, would essentially make 946 01:00:00,810 --> 01:00:04,680 now the suspect list go from very small to very, very big. 947 01:00:05,130 --> 01:00:08,190 I'm not really sure. But the answer is I don't have any 948 01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:11,640 insider information on where Jeremy or George gets these 949 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,420 leaks. I'm not sure I just have guesses. I'm just more 950 01:00:15,690 --> 01:00:19,920 interested in the government's swiftness confirming the 951 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,640 authenticity. One other thing to point out is that they have the 952 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,120 Pentagon has a couple months ago, denied that they were 953 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,960 investigating the leaks. Right? So they said no, and which was 954 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,540 very intriguing to me, why wouldn't you? Even if they're 955 01:00:33,540 --> 01:00:36,510 unclassified, they're still likely considered for official 956 01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:41,160 use only. So why would they just not care? You know, those, those 957 01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:43,410 pieces of evidence would need to be 958 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,630 reviewed prior to release, so they don't care. A couple of 959 01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:52,950 weeks ago, I asked the Pentagon again, and said, you know, 960 01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:56,220 here's more stuff that you cuz you're just, you know, quickly 961 01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:59,820 confirming, I've got to ask again, you know, is there any 962 01:00:59,850 --> 01:01:03,450 type of investigation? Now they're dodging the question. So 963 01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:06,450 I think that that was around about admission, that yes, they 964 01:01:06,450 --> 01:01:09,750 are concerned about this, that they are looking into it, 965 01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:13,440 because let's face it, it's a concern. These can be balloons 966 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,830 or drones, whatever terrestrial explanation. Skeptics want to 967 01:01:16,830 --> 01:01:19,710 put on it. But regardless, if they're being utilized by the 968 01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:23,280 UAP Task Force in classified briefings, then there are 969 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,630 potentially those that have a security clearance that is 970 01:01:27,630 --> 01:01:30,780 extracting, albeit an unclassified elements, 971 01:01:31,050 --> 01:01:34,830 extracting something from the report, and then sending it out 972 01:01:34,830 --> 01:01:38,370 there into the ether for everybody to look at. That would 973 01:01:38,370 --> 01:01:42,090 be a concern, because if they'll do it with a UAP balloon photo, 974 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,810 again, I'm being facetious there with with a skeptical label on 975 01:01:45,810 --> 01:01:48,360 it. But if they're going to be willy nilly about that, who's to 976 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,940 say they're not going to do it about something else that's even 977 01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:54,030 more sensitive. So it wasn't surprising to me that they did a 978 01:01:54,030 --> 01:01:58,530 shift in tone. Let me do a couple others. Would you be 979 01:01:58,530 --> 01:02:01,380 willing to share your thoughts about Daniel Sheehan and his 980 01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:05,430 plan meeting with AIG next Wednesday? Look, I'd love to 981 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,450 pick Danny's brain a little bit more on that I'm very intrigued 982 01:02:09,450 --> 01:02:12,840 by the i g investigation or rather, evaluation versus 983 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,540 investigation. I've heard rumors, there are two others. I 984 01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:18,180 think Danny himself has also said that, that they are 985 01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:21,630 investigating. You know, the treatment of Luis Elizondo 986 01:02:21,630 --> 01:02:25,170 political reported that there was a 64 page complaint that was 987 01:02:25,170 --> 01:02:28,800 submitted, other than what's been reported publicly, I 988 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:34,170 wouldn't have anything to add to it. Other than behind me, 989 01:02:34,170 --> 01:02:38,640 there's popcorn popping, because I'm super intrigued on how all 990 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,600 of that will turn out and what essentially will become public, 991 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,950 because there is a lot involved in that. Not right now. But 992 01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:50,460 there's a lot involved in that process that will be foible in 993 01:02:50,460 --> 01:02:54,990 the future. And although I did go for the 64 page report, or 994 01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:58,740 excuse me complaint that was submitted by Luis Elizondo, and 995 01:02:58,740 --> 01:03:01,920 his attorney, it was denied under what's called exemption B 996 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,330 seven B seven is essentially an open law enforcement 997 01:03:06,330 --> 01:03:10,440 investigation or information that could potentially involve a 998 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:15,720 law enforcement proceeding, essentially since the Igy. Is 999 01:03:16,170 --> 01:03:18,540 that sounds a little bit more sinister than it really is 1000 01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:21,600 essentially, since the IGA is still open with their evaluation 1001 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,350 and potentially an investigation into the Luis Elizondo issue. 1002 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,760 Then all of that is going to be exempt once they close that 1003 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,840 investigation fair game. We do one more and then I'll hit the 1004 01:03:33,870 --> 01:03:37,440 phone because I know you guys are holding on there a while. Do 1005 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,270 you believe Bob has our story about him working out on his on 1006 01:03:42,270 --> 01:03:48,030 this? Okay. Essentially his offworld vehicles do I believe 1007 01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:51,870 Bob does are to be honest with you No, I don't my good good 1008 01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:55,140 good dear friend of more than 20 years the late Stanton Friedman 1009 01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:59,220 I know really dug into that and i would i would relinquish to a 1010 01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:02,580 lot of his work he did he did great work he's somebody that 1011 01:04:02,580 --> 01:04:06,780 would pick up the telephone and physically go places to confirm 1012 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,110 the claims of Bob Azhar versus you know do some Google stuff 1013 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:15,450 and and and make some theories. So he really dug in I have as 1014 01:04:15,450 --> 01:04:19,800 well but to a point and I saw enough to say look, you know, 1015 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,970 there's no way that this guy would have access to that type 1016 01:04:23,970 --> 01:04:28,140 of technology and information and then just be able to go to 1017 01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:32,250 some affiliate station in Las Vegas, even in silhouette, talk 1018 01:04:32,250 --> 01:04:35,250 about it then reveal his identity and then continue to 1019 01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:40,350 talk about it and nothing ever happens. And and for stories to 1020 01:04:40,350 --> 01:04:43,590 be embellished over the years, I know that a lot of people think 1021 01:04:43,590 --> 01:04:46,950 he was rated for potentially they were looking for element 1022 01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:51,210 115 we know that that's not true. Sadly, it was just kind of 1023 01:04:51,210 --> 01:04:54,990 spun that way. So there's a lot of when you dig in, there's a 1024 01:04:54,990 --> 01:04:59,040 lot of those types of things that just aren't true and and we 1025 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,360 did he work unclassified technology. Yeah, potentially 1026 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,460 wouldn't surprise me. Did he have a government contract? 1027 01:05:05,460 --> 01:05:08,160 Yeah, potentially potentially wouldn't surprise me. Did he 1028 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,800 work at Los Alamos as a contractor? Yeah, wouldn't 1029 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,030 surprise me but seeing alien spacecraft and so on and so 1030 01:05:15,030 --> 01:05:20,070 forth at a hangar, I just don't see that he would be able to get 1031 01:05:20,070 --> 01:05:20,700 away from it. 1032 01:05:22,980 --> 01:05:25,800 So here's another one. And I read these on the spot. So 1033 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,980 apologies. Hey, john, Mike from Philly here. Thanks for all you 1034 01:05:28,980 --> 01:05:31,800 do love your tenacity, my question his thoughts on Lou 1035 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:37,530 being a kinder, gentler, gentler Richard doty. I'm on the fence 1036 01:05:37,530 --> 01:05:39,870 with him just seems like he's tossed out there to relate to 1037 01:05:39,870 --> 01:05:42,090 the every man, that's all someone you could have a beer 1038 01:05:42,090 --> 01:05:45,660 with type guy. Something just doesn't feel right. That's all 1039 01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:48,450 just just asking for your thoughts on that. Thank you. 1040 01:05:49,050 --> 01:05:52,230 Well, thank you for the question. So in short, I mean, 1041 01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:55,710 my history with Luis Elizondo, obviously, I'm one of being very 1042 01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:59,880 skeptical of any claim. I did not single him out. For anybody 1043 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,880 who's watched the black Vault for a long time. That's how I've 1044 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,810 been, I've always question I question everything, that's the 1045 01:06:06,810 --> 01:06:10,500 right way to do it, because the truth will survive scrutiny. 1046 01:06:10,650 --> 01:06:13,920 Somebody told me that on Reddit a couple years ago, and that is 1047 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,220 stuck with me because you know, some people just don't want 1048 01:06:17,220 --> 01:06:20,970 those questions ask the the very difficult questions. And so what 1049 01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:24,570 they want is, is essentially just leave people like Luis 1050 01:06:24,570 --> 01:06:28,020 Elizondo alone, let him come out to tell the story and so on, 1051 01:06:28,020 --> 01:06:32,670 don't rock the boat, for me that that Reddit comment was, was 1052 01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:37,200 resonated so much to me, and within me, because it's like, no 1053 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,950 matter what I or notable skeptics or debunkers, or 1054 01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:47,040 whomever, throw at claims, or people or cases or photographs 1055 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,700 or videos, so again, I'm broad strokes here. But whatever, 1056 01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:55,380 people that are skeptical throw at cases like that, or claims, 1057 01:06:55,740 --> 01:06:59,730 if on the other end, it is true. And there's truth to it, then 1058 01:06:59,730 --> 01:07:03,090 nothing what they do, or say, or ask or whatever, we'll break 1059 01:07:03,090 --> 01:07:07,350 that, nothing. Nothing. And in the process, if you're 1060 01:07:07,350 --> 01:07:11,730 solidifying that truth, to me, that's a good thing. And and I 1061 01:07:11,730 --> 01:07:18,060 and I, I, I support that Meaning, if I make a claim, and 1062 01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:20,460 I do a video and you guys go, Wow, that really happened. 1063 01:07:20,610 --> 01:07:24,060 challenge it challenge me that that's what I'm here for. 1064 01:07:24,270 --> 01:07:29,370 Because I want to be challenged. I want people to question what I 1065 01:07:29,370 --> 01:07:33,150 put out there. Because when you research it and go, Wow, is 1066 01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:36,030 Greenwald really being truthful here. And you know, you guys do 1067 01:07:36,030 --> 01:07:39,630 whatever research you need to do. And then you confirm it, and 1068 01:07:39,630 --> 01:07:42,840 you realize the document was obtained from the CIA, or this 1069 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,190 document was declassified from the NSA or whatever it is, it 1070 01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:51,630 reinforces it. So nothing, you as a skeptic that threw at me 1071 01:07:51,690 --> 01:07:55,410 could negate that particular claim. That's how I operate on 1072 01:07:55,410 --> 01:07:58,920 my end, when I see those claims. And when I see people make 1073 01:07:59,130 --> 01:08:02,220 claims or put information forward, I challenge it, because 1074 01:08:02,220 --> 01:08:05,850 at the end of the day, nothing that I do, or anyone else for 1075 01:08:05,850 --> 01:08:12,000 that matter, can ever derail the truth. So I apologize to you. I 1076 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,520 know you've been on the phone for a little bit here. Who's 1077 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:20,040 this? This is correct. Hey, Clay, thanks for calling in. And 1078 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,490 I do apologize again. Obviously, lots of questions. Lots of 1079 01:08:23,490 --> 01:08:27,270 people here. We're close to 500 people now watching. So I do 1080 01:08:27,270 --> 01:08:28,710 apologize, but what can I do for you? 1081 01:08:29,790 --> 01:08:32,190 Unknown: Yeah, okay, so I'm going to try to make make this 1082 01:08:32,190 --> 01:08:34,950 quick, john, just just whenever you've got a lot of people that 1083 01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:38,190 want to get in and get questions. And so with that 1084 01:08:38,190 --> 01:08:41,700 being said, I really wish that that you could do this at least 1085 01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:44,790 once a week. I know you're a busy man. But I mean, just the 1086 01:08:44,790 --> 01:08:48,180 fact of being able to know to get on with you be able to run 1087 01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:50,880 our questions by hearing your answer and everything. I mean, 1088 01:08:50,910 --> 01:08:53,700 that is like really a big deal. Not many people are actually 1089 01:08:53,700 --> 01:08:59,160 doing that. But real quick to my question is that why do you 1090 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:05,670 think there isn't a lot of I guess, I guess analysis of the I 1091 01:09:05,670 --> 01:09:09,990 believe it's called the Oh, Willa airport, UFO sighting? I 1092 01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:14,790 mean, it's like great video. I mean, just the things that that 1093 01:09:14,790 --> 01:09:18,840 the object is doing from from, from what I can see. Looks 1094 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,540 pretty amazing. And just one other question. I don't know if 1095 01:09:21,540 --> 01:09:24,990 anyone has ever asked you this. And if you get a chance to ask 1096 01:09:24,990 --> 01:09:28,590 them or if you've heard it, but But the thing is, is that has 1097 01:09:28,590 --> 01:09:33,480 anyone ever asked him? What is the one case that made him a 1098 01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:37,380 believer in the phenomenon just pretty much just said, Okay, 1099 01:09:37,650 --> 01:09:42,150 this is real. So if you've heard what that case was, you know, if 1100 01:09:42,150 --> 01:09:45,600 you can just, you know, if you can just let us know, you know, 1101 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,300 but you know, you get a chance to ask him, you know, if you 1102 01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:50,370 think that that's a good question, you know if you can 1103 01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:52,110 run it by him. Thanks, john. 1104 01:09:52,170 --> 01:09:54,810 John Greenewald: Sure. And let me ask you really quick, before 1105 01:09:54,810 --> 01:09:57,870 you if you do hang up, what was the airport that you were 1106 01:09:57,870 --> 01:10:03,630 talking about? I think it's called a gorilla airport. It's 1107 01:10:03,630 --> 01:10:06,630 and you're talking about agua de agua de Puerto Rico. 1108 01:10:07,470 --> 01:10:09,990 Unknown: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 1109 01:10:10,020 --> 01:10:13,560 yeah. Yeah, that's like some of the most amazing videos that 1110 01:10:13,650 --> 01:10:18,630 I've seen. Yeah. And I just don't see a lot on it. So I 1111 01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:22,620 don't know if it's just maybe YouTube's algorithm or what's 1112 01:10:22,620 --> 01:10:25,740 going on. But for it to be so amazing. I just don't see a lot 1113 01:10:25,740 --> 01:10:26,760 of talk about it. 1114 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,430 John Greenewald: Sure. So two great questions. So I'm gonna 1115 01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:32,340 deal with the latter one first, simply because it's easier to 1116 01:10:32,340 --> 01:10:35,250 answer. I don't know if there's one case, although I won't be 1117 01:10:35,250 --> 01:10:38,040 surprised if it's out there. I have not watched every interview 1118 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:43,260 that Luis Elizondo has done. He's done a ton. And so kudos to 1119 01:10:43,260 --> 01:10:46,500 him for being able to do that. So there may be an answer to 1120 01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:49,890 that. I just don't know what it is. I know he's obviously spoken 1121 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,660 about the 2004 Nimitz encounter quite a bit. But if there was a 1122 01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:57,480 different case, I'm not really sure. So I don't have an answer 1123 01:10:57,480 --> 01:11:01,560 for you on that one. With the agua dia one, I would definitely 1124 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,990 point you to a big report that the scientific Coalition for UAP 1125 01:11:06,990 --> 01:11:12,090 studies sccu. I had Robert Powell on who was one of the co 1126 01:11:12,090 --> 01:11:15,240 founders of that organization, and they released a big report 1127 01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:20,070 on the agua dia citing and the video and analysis and they they 1128 01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:23,490 do a great job like really digging in. So I would 1129 01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:28,380 relinquish that question to them just for being you know, the 1130 01:11:28,380 --> 01:11:33,720 pros that they have really dug in deep on that. Feel free to 1131 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,750 drop me an email. Again, it's very straightforward, john at 1132 01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:40,200 the black vault calm and I am happy to send you a direct link 1133 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:44,790 to that. I'll also add it to the show notes after after the video 1134 01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:49,770 ends. But that being said, even if you just Google at sccu agua 1135 01:11:49,770 --> 01:11:53,490 dia Report, I'm sure you'll come up with it. And and they go into 1136 01:11:53,490 --> 01:11:54,720 great detail on that. 1137 01:11:55,290 --> 01:11:58,410 Unknown: In just just real quick one of the things that I've 1138 01:11:58,410 --> 01:12:03,120 noticed why why does it appear that South America countries are 1139 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,170 more open about their UFO sightings? And they, for 1140 01:12:07,170 --> 01:12:11,610 instance, like Chile and Brazil, Argentina, even a theme from 1141 01:12:11,610 --> 01:12:14,880 Colombia signing, it just seemed like they're more open? Do you 1142 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,130 know why I visit? Yes, me. 1143 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,530 John Greenewald: I agree with you that it seems like it's a 1144 01:12:19,530 --> 01:12:24,690 little bit more open down there. And and even the society is more 1145 01:12:24,690 --> 01:12:29,280 welcoming two topics like that. What What is that? stemming 1146 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,260 from? I'm not really sure. But but I do think that there's that 1147 01:12:34,260 --> 01:12:37,920 there's definitely something to that, that I wish I had the 1148 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,830 answer to. In regards to governments. Yeah, it looks like 1149 01:12:40,830 --> 01:12:43,470 that they as well have come out with information. I know the 1150 01:12:43,470 --> 01:12:46,860 Mexican government has released FLIR video footage and stuff 1151 01:12:46,860 --> 01:12:48,810 like that. And of course, the skeptics and debunkers all 1152 01:12:48,810 --> 01:12:52,470 attack it. But regardless of I've always gotten the 1153 01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:55,470 impression that America was very, very much more tight 1154 01:12:55,470 --> 01:12:59,820 lipped than many other countries, especially the South 1155 01:12:59,820 --> 01:13:03,810 American countries. Thanks, john. You're very welcome. And 1156 01:13:03,810 --> 01:13:06,570 thanks for your phone call a couple more text messages here. 1157 01:13:07,230 --> 01:13:10,200 Let me go ahead and get this one. Why don't we just shoot one 1158 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,170 down? And we will know what they are? For? Sure. Well, a couple 1159 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,280 thoughts on that really quickly. Who's to say we can catch it to 1160 01:13:17,310 --> 01:13:20,820 shoot one down? Because it seems like they pretty much outperform 1161 01:13:20,850 --> 01:13:25,500 everything and everything we got and everyone up there. So that 1162 01:13:25,620 --> 01:13:29,340 that that would definitely be one comment on that. The other 1163 01:13:29,340 --> 01:13:32,580 thing is who says we haven't? You know, I mean, that's a big 1164 01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:35,550 possibility. If we were ever to do that, if we haven't already, 1165 01:13:35,790 --> 01:13:38,310 I would consider that something that would be highly classified, 1166 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:44,040 and likely, not anything that we would be hearing about. Mr. Bao, 1167 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,790 we are Bowie, Bowie, Bowie, thank you so much for that 1168 01:13:47,790 --> 01:13:51,690 support has in the Super Chat, has everything in the last two 1169 01:13:51,690 --> 01:13:54,720 years been a psyop to either cover New Tech, they are 1170 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,050 developing or distractions from the horrors we have seen lately. 1171 01:13:58,290 --> 01:14:02,880 I touched on that a little bit. When it comes to classified tech 1172 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,060 is all of this a cover story. I mean, of course, that's a huge 1173 01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:12,990 possibility, in my opinion, the the effort to do that, and the 1174 01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:17,070 outcome would be worse off than if they just didn't address any 1175 01:14:17,070 --> 01:14:20,880 of this at all. Meaning leave you a piece out of it, and 1176 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:25,140 continue to operate in secrecy with whatever classified tech or 1177 01:14:25,140 --> 01:14:29,160 whatever new technology that they're developing. I say that 1178 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,340 because of history. When you look at history, and you look at 1179 01:14:32,340 --> 01:14:38,160 how long area 51 has survived and it was in operation without 1180 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,130 being known by the general public or even acknowledged. You 1181 01:14:41,130 --> 01:14:43,410 look at the classified technology that we've developed 1182 01:14:43,410 --> 01:14:47,100 over the years, many times. Things were secret for decades 1183 01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:50,610 upon decades before it was ever officially acknowledged. We hear 1184 01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:53,700 about things all the time like these stealth helicopters that 1185 01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:57,450 were used in the Osama bin Laden operation, all of which were 1186 01:14:57,450 --> 01:15:01,140 unacknowledged prior. They are very serious. cessful at keeping 1187 01:15:01,140 --> 01:15:05,700 secrets when they want to. And so for me thinking that this was 1188 01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:09,630 all a psyop I just don't buy it for that reason, just simply 1189 01:15:09,630 --> 01:15:12,720 because history shows that if they wanted to keep it all a 1190 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,980 secret, and this was covert tech or, or something in development, 1191 01:15:17,130 --> 01:15:22,380 that they absolutely could without the stain of a UAP cover 1192 01:15:22,380 --> 01:15:25,200 up because you look at the amount of publicity that this 1193 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,620 topic is getting. And the amount of accusations that are being 1194 01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:32,280 thrown towards the general US government as a whole or the US 1195 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,030 military. To me it's just not worth it for them to create some 1196 01:15:36,030 --> 01:15:39,360 kind of a cover story here. I would just leave it alone. 1197 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,460 here's here's one about the T shirt love the T shirt. I bought 1198 01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:50,010 it a great conversation starter any new merchandise in the 1199 01:15:50,010 --> 01:15:53,670 future? new merchandise love the T shirt. Thank you for that. 1200 01:15:53,670 --> 01:15:56,190 Yes, I have a couple of T shirts. They are on the black 1201 01:15:56,190 --> 01:15:59,910 vault store. Yes, that really is a text message. So I'm not 1202 01:15:59,910 --> 01:16:04,200 trying to plug my merch here. But I do have a couple black 1203 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,300 vault t shirts to show your support. So if you go to the 1204 01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:09,270 black vault comm there's a shop link at the top, you can buy my 1205 01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:13,140 books as well, which you see behind me there inside the black 1206 01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:16,620 vault. Obviously a lot of you guys are loving the UFO topic, 1207 01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:20,820 as that seems to be a common theme on these live streams. So 1208 01:16:20,850 --> 01:16:24,000 you might be interested in that book as well. So thank you for 1209 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,940 that gave me an opportunity to give a shameless plug thoughts 1210 01:16:26,940 --> 01:16:30,780 on Verner von Braun Kennedy death because releasing UFO 1211 01:16:30,780 --> 01:16:33,120 files to Russia. Why did Reagan ask for Russia's help in the 1212 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,090 early 80s? Wow, lots of stuff their thoughts on Verner von 1213 01:16:36,090 --> 01:16:39,690 Braun? I mean, I don't know what you exactly mean by that, 1214 01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:44,430 obviously, lots of history there with von Braun and the role he 1215 01:16:44,430 --> 01:16:47,490 played with our space program and stuff like that, but I'm not 1216 01:16:47,490 --> 01:16:50,850 entirely sure what you're referring to, I will focus on 1217 01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:53,490 Kennedy death because of releasing UFO files to Russia. 1218 01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:56,430 You know, there's a lot of rumors about the Kennedy thing, 1219 01:16:56,610 --> 01:17:00,570 sadly, that just really nothing substantiated. In my mind, I 1220 01:17:00,570 --> 01:17:03,150 believe. And this is kind of going back in my memory here. So 1221 01:17:03,150 --> 01:17:05,850 I could be wrong, that there was a document that came out, but it 1222 01:17:05,850 --> 01:17:09,750 was never confirmed as authentic. I know that he wanted 1223 01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:14,100 to research UFOs. But I think that there was a claim in the in 1224 01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:16,560 a book and I'll have to look this up again, but many years 1225 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,160 ago that he was going to release everything. I've been to the JFK 1226 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,130 library sifted through his documents, it's one of the most 1227 01:17:23,130 --> 01:17:25,800 amazing things to do if you've never done it, and you like 1228 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,150 documents like I do, definitely take take it, take a day to do 1229 01:17:30,150 --> 01:17:33,240 it. Go to a presidential library, pick a topic that 1230 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,940 you're interested in from that President and get documents I 1231 01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:40,140 remember I was going through UFO documents. And there's a pretty 1232 01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:43,020 big box of them. I have them all on the black vault comm they're 1233 01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:47,280 they're literally under the president john F. Kennedy 1234 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:52,200 library, UFO documents. So if you use the search, and going 1235 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,900 through that, and I stumbled on a letter that was actually 1236 01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:59,730 signed by JFK himself, like the original, most of those are 1237 01:17:59,730 --> 01:18:03,510 polled and photocopies are put in. These were overlooked. And I 1238 01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:06,780 remember just sitting there for a moment and, and looking at it 1239 01:18:06,810 --> 01:18:11,610 and holding it going, Wow, JFK actually signed this, you know, 1240 01:18:11,610 --> 01:18:13,950 and I sat there for a moment. And then I got up and I told the 1241 01:18:13,950 --> 01:18:17,970 archivist and they ended up pulling it. But amazing 1242 01:18:17,970 --> 01:18:20,730 experience. However, going through all of those UFO 1243 01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:23,730 documents, you realize that those types of claims are really 1244 01:18:23,730 --> 01:18:27,630 not substantiated in what was going on behind the scenes. JFK 1245 01:18:27,630 --> 01:18:32,550 and mostly his brother, Robert Kennedy was fielding all of the 1246 01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:37,680 questions from the general public. But again, although JFK 1247 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,460 expressed an interest in maybe getting some some UFO answers, 1248 01:18:41,970 --> 01:18:44,310 there was really nothing to substantiate that he was just 1249 01:18:44,310 --> 01:18:48,360 going to blow the lid wide open and release all the UFO files. 1250 01:18:48,570 --> 01:18:51,270 And I think that that was more generally to the public versus 1251 01:18:51,270 --> 01:18:55,470 Russia, like your question said. But regardless, that I don't 1252 01:18:55,470 --> 01:18:58,950 think that that theory has ever really been substantiated. So 1253 01:18:58,950 --> 01:19:02,700 let me hit one more super chat question that I'm going to the 1254 01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:05,190 phones What is your take on the declarations from the head of 1255 01:19:05,190 --> 01:19:08,700 Israeli space program or the Canadian former Prime Minister? 1256 01:19:09,180 --> 01:19:12,450 That is up Philip or Felipe? And again, I apologize. I'm not sure 1257 01:19:12,450 --> 01:19:15,480 the correct pronunciation. But that's a second support that 1258 01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:19,350 you've given the channel today. So thank you so much. What is my 1259 01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:23,280 take? You know, it's that's what's hard with claims like 1260 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:28,620 that the Israeli space program, john kind of a blank on his on 1261 01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:32,340 his name. But also I think you're talking about Paul 1262 01:19:32,340 --> 01:19:37,740 hellyer from Canada. And, you know, I've met Paul hellyer. I 1263 01:19:37,740 --> 01:19:40,680 haven't met the other gentlemen. And they're they're very 1264 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,800 interesting claims they truly are. But But again, it's it's 1265 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,520 not what you believe it's what you can prove. And sadly, when 1266 01:19:47,550 --> 01:19:50,040 individuals like that come forward, I haven't really seen 1267 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,150 like this amazing mound of evidence that's been put forth 1268 01:19:54,180 --> 01:19:57,030 with them. They're more claims. Now that doesn't mean that I 1269 01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:59,370 dismiss them and that doesn't mean that I think they're lying, 1270 01:19:59,370 --> 01:20:03,720 nor does it mean But I think we should ignore it. But rather, 1271 01:20:03,810 --> 01:20:07,620 I'm just a I'm a researcher, you know, and I need to be able to 1272 01:20:07,620 --> 01:20:11,850 take a claim like that, and try and authenticate it. And with 1273 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,880 with what we've seen with those particular stories, I'm what 1274 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,750 you're asking about. Very hard to do that because they don't 1275 01:20:18,750 --> 01:20:22,050 come along with a lot of evidence that you go, Oh, my 1276 01:20:22,050 --> 01:20:25,290 gosh, look at that, you know, I'll be at it's still very 1277 01:20:25,290 --> 01:20:28,740 interesting. And it still goes on the list of really great 1278 01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:32,670 supporting testimony. But when it comes to hardcore evidence 1279 01:20:32,700 --> 01:20:35,820 for me, it's it's lacking a little bit. So I hope that 1280 01:20:35,820 --> 01:20:38,220 answered your question. Let me hit the phones. I know you've 1281 01:20:38,220 --> 01:20:41,370 been on the phone for a while. I apologize for the whole Who's 1282 01:20:41,370 --> 01:20:41,730 this? 1283 01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:48,750 Hello. Did I lose you? Maybe you didn't want to hang on? I don't 1284 01:20:48,750 --> 01:20:53,010 blame you. Are you there? Yeah. Okay. My name is Mo. And my last 1285 01:20:53,010 --> 01:20:56,400 name is Lester. So I wanted to ask you about this Wendy's 1286 01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,450 program. So have you heard anything about this program? 1287 01:21:01,410 --> 01:21:07,320 Which program? Are you referring to? The Wendy's. That's not 1288 01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:13,110 striking a bell and the imposter sauce? Like a morgase? mugas 1289 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:19,170 sassy buck. bucha. Vegas. Alright, Korean call, should I 1290 01:21:19,170 --> 01:21:24,600 blast that number out? He waited that long just to crank me? How 1291 01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:29,550 How, how upsetting that somebody would wait on hold just to I'm 1292 01:21:29,550 --> 01:21:31,950 not even sure what he said to be honest with you. Alright, so 1293 01:21:31,950 --> 01:21:35,940 we'll, we'll get through that caller. Just so you know, I have 1294 01:21:35,940 --> 01:21:38,640 no problems taking phone numbers and blasting them out there if 1295 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,750 you decide to do that again. So we'll leave that as as it is. 1296 01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:46,740 Let me go ahead and get a couple of text messages here. Sorry, 1297 01:21:46,770 --> 01:21:50,040 I'm going to tell you in advance. There's no way for me 1298 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,390 to get to these. Overwhelming on the support here today. And I 1299 01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:58,170 truly appreciate it. Another caller thankfully, not the same 1300 01:21:58,170 --> 01:22:02,790 one. All right, but let me get some text messages here. I'm 1301 01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:06,240 starting to think that these vehicles are ours. The only 1302 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,370 reason that these people are coming forward is because the 1303 01:22:08,370 --> 01:22:12,630 government has told them to. I mean, it's it's definitely part 1304 01:22:12,630 --> 01:22:13,470 of that cya. 1305 01:22:14,730 --> 01:22:18,750 Theory that's out there. Again, not substantiated yet, but 1306 01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:25,200 something that that is prevalent. Now, are they on some 1307 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:29,730 kind of secret operation and under orders? I mean, that 1308 01:22:29,730 --> 01:22:33,330 sounds conspiratorial, I can't rule it out. I mean, I'll be 1309 01:22:33,330 --> 01:22:36,060 honest with you, how do we know that the people that have come 1310 01:22:36,060 --> 01:22:39,360 forward, don't have another agenda, you know that they're 1311 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,080 not under orders? No, that's not again, something that I'll bet 1312 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,920 my house on before people start lambasted me on Twitter. But 1313 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:53,400 again, as the way that I approach in a anything is, as a 1314 01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:56,340 investigator, you deal with all possibilities until you can't, 1315 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,970 and you deal with all potential explanations until you can't. 1316 01:23:00,270 --> 01:23:04,290 And you challenge each and every single one by drilling down on 1317 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,850 each and every single one. And until you can rule it out, you 1318 01:23:08,850 --> 01:23:12,480 have to take it as a possibility, albeit a very small 1319 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:16,680 one. Now, people don't like that aspect of me, right? They'll 1320 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,690 just blindly dismiss X, Y, and Z, because they don't want to 1321 01:23:21,690 --> 01:23:26,490 believe that X, Y, Z and can be true. But if you're truly trying 1322 01:23:26,490 --> 01:23:31,470 to investigate something, you need to deal with XYZ until you 1323 01:23:31,470 --> 01:23:36,090 can't anymore, you find evidence to either support it or dismiss 1324 01:23:36,090 --> 01:23:40,080 it. I think the scientific method is the same way. Right? I 1325 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,770 mean, they just don't not deal with certain theories, just 1326 01:23:43,770 --> 01:23:46,710 because it's a theory and they don't want it to be true. You 1327 01:23:46,710 --> 01:23:50,340 have to challenge it and test it. And that's what I that's 1328 01:23:50,340 --> 01:23:54,150 what I absolutely do with stuff like this. So is there this 1329 01:23:54,180 --> 01:23:58,500 secret agenda behind the scenes that this is all playing into a 1330 01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:02,520 much bigger story? It's it is absolutely quite possible. 1331 01:24:02,730 --> 01:24:06,210 Because all you have to do is not think that I'm being a 1332 01:24:06,210 --> 01:24:09,480 conspiracy theorist and take my word for it. rather look at 1333 01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:14,070 history. And history shows and proves that the general public 1334 01:24:14,190 --> 01:24:18,000 has been misled, right? There's no there's no way around it. You 1335 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,270 look at the CIA mind control experiments. You look at all of 1336 01:24:21,270 --> 01:24:23,430 that stuff that they've done in the past the Tuskegee 1337 01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:27,660 experiments. You look at that, and the general public has been 1338 01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:31,050 lied to for the greater good, whatever that greater good is, 1339 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,800 but they've been lied to and misled. There have been things 1340 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,400 going on behind the scenes to essentially puppeteer a 1341 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:42,090 narrative to the general public to ensure that you guys me 1342 01:24:42,090 --> 01:24:45,720 included, don't know the truth. So who's to say they're not 1343 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:51,390 doing that now? And until till we can prove otherwise? We have 1344 01:24:51,390 --> 01:24:54,600 to always keep that in the back of our head. Now I like Luis 1345 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,420 Elizondo, I'm not saying that he's part of this. I don't know 1346 01:24:57,420 --> 01:25:00,210 Christopher Mellon, but I like what I've seen about him. These 1347 01:25:00,210 --> 01:25:03,090 are all individuals that I would sit down and have a beer with 1348 01:25:03,090 --> 01:25:07,860 and dinner. And, and, and enjoy my evening, right? So I'm not 1349 01:25:07,860 --> 01:25:12,270 placing that accusation. But I'm speaking in generality that no 1350 01:25:12,270 --> 01:25:16,560 matter who comes forward, no matter what is being said, we 1351 01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,250 have to challenge it and question it. Because if history 1352 01:25:20,250 --> 01:25:24,300 has taught us anything, it's that history often repeats 1353 01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:27,810 itself. So it may not be that people like and again, I'm not 1354 01:25:27,810 --> 01:25:30,060 trying to throw them under the bus. But Christopher Mellon, 1355 01:25:30,060 --> 01:25:33,150 Luis Elizondo and these people that have come forward, it's not 1356 01:25:33,150 --> 01:25:36,180 that they're spearheading it. But maybe they're a victim of it 1357 01:25:36,180 --> 01:25:40,410 too. because keep in mind, history also shows that hat that 1358 01:25:40,410 --> 01:25:44,310 has happened with people that have come out and have set a 1359 01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:48,720 narrative that isn't true. I'm sure you guys can think of a 1360 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,770 couple spokespeople, that that's happened to over the years, that 1361 01:25:52,770 --> 01:25:55,770 they as a government official are tasked to say something, 1362 01:25:55,950 --> 01:25:59,880 because that's what they're told, and it is the truth. Well, 1363 01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,520 at least that's what they were told whether or not it was the 1364 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,250 truth or not becomes irrelevant. They were told it was the truth 1365 01:26:05,250 --> 01:26:08,040 that all that matter. That's all that matters. So again, history 1366 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,670 shows us that we as the general public, by sometimes way of a 1367 01:26:11,670 --> 01:26:14,820 spokesperson, by sometimes we have a press release, or 1368 01:26:14,820 --> 01:26:17,520 sometimes we have a maybe even a Freedom of Information Act 1369 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,580 release, but it could be strategic, and it can have a 1370 01:26:20,580 --> 01:26:25,860 much deeper underlying motive on why that information is there. 1371 01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,520 Again, people don't like that aspect of me. But it's something 1372 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,950 that as a researcher, investigator, whatever you label 1373 01:26:31,950 --> 01:26:36,330 yourself, I label myself as a researcher investigator. That's 1374 01:26:36,330 --> 01:26:39,090 what you have to do. You challenge it and you just keep 1375 01:26:39,210 --> 01:26:39,780 pushing. 1376 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,970 Just join the stream. This is about 30 minutes ago, so I 1377 01:26:44,970 --> 01:26:49,470 apologize. Just join the stream Have you seen UFO loose channel 1378 01:26:49,470 --> 01:26:52,590 on YouTube? The telescope night vision video footage he captures 1379 01:26:52,590 --> 01:26:55,890 is pretty incredible. Triangle objects, 90 degree turn objects, 1380 01:26:55,890 --> 01:26:59,070 dissipating cloaked objects, keep up the incredible work. I 1381 01:26:59,070 --> 01:27:03,570 appreciate the kind words UFO Lu doesn't ring a bell to be honest 1382 01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:06,060 with you. But I have seen quite a few different night vision 1383 01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:08,970 triangular objects. Those are very cool. I always dig stuff 1384 01:27:08,970 --> 01:27:13,020 like that. A lot of times it lacks context, or you find it on 1385 01:27:13,020 --> 01:27:16,170 YouTube from somebody that I you know, there's really no way to 1386 01:27:16,170 --> 01:27:19,200 verify it. That does again, not meaning that it's fake. It's 1387 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,400 just a little bit more challenging to to research. But 1388 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,310 regardless, I'm not sure if that specific channel but yeah, I 1389 01:27:26,340 --> 01:27:29,550 totally dig those types of videos. If you have any that you 1390 01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:32,940 want to show me directly, please, by all means, send them 1391 01:27:32,940 --> 01:27:36,660 in. I apologize to this color on for a little bit. Who's this? 1392 01:27:38,010 --> 01:27:40,740 Unknown: Hi, john kerry from out here at the Trent place in 1393 01:27:40,740 --> 01:27:45,750 Oregon. Hey, Terry from Oregon, how are you? I'm doing well. I'm 1394 01:27:46,380 --> 01:27:48,420 kind of having a little bit of trouble putting some puzzle 1395 01:27:48,420 --> 01:27:54,390 pieces together here okay. with Mr. Elizondo would make sense 1396 01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:57,870 that he would have had to then read into some certain 1397 01:27:57,900 --> 01:28:03,180 classified things to do the research he was doing. Well, 1398 01:28:03,210 --> 01:28:07,530 when when Senator Reid tried to get a tip the authorization to 1399 01:28:07,530 --> 01:28:12,120 look into their quote unquote, we will program he was denied. I 1400 01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:16,110 can't I can't understand what the way that we talk especially 1401 01:28:16,110 --> 01:28:18,900 about some of the temporal things that he talks about, and 1402 01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:22,350 metamaterials and so forth, where the breakdown in 1403 01:28:22,350 --> 01:28:26,640 communication would have been in a tip associate they were giving 1404 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,900 briefings. And why have you ever asked through how many 1405 01:28:30,900 --> 01:28:34,140 classified things he had to be read into in order to do the 1406 01:28:34,140 --> 01:28:35,640 research he was doing for a kid? 1407 01:28:36,150 --> 01:28:38,220 John Greenewald: No, I haven't asked him that specific 1408 01:28:38,220 --> 01:28:41,250 question. But I do know when it comes to classified aspects of 1409 01:28:41,250 --> 01:28:45,660 what he was doing, he will often fall back on the fact that he 1410 01:28:45,660 --> 01:28:48,300 can't talk about it because it would be classified in regards 1411 01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:53,670 to the Harry Reid letter that I just did a big article about the 1412 01:28:53,670 --> 01:28:56,160 Harry Reid letter about a month ago if you haven't seen it, I 1413 01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,710 would recommend to look into it. It's very interesting. 1414 01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:03,450 Unknown: I've seen it I follow pretty much everything he does 1415 01:29:04,350 --> 01:29:09,330 John Greenewald: a gotcha Yeah. So I why he was denied I'm not 1416 01:29:09,330 --> 01:29:12,840 sure what I found intriguing behind that story. Since you 1417 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,180 have seen it this won't be new to you. But for the audience. 1418 01:29:15,330 --> 01:29:18,990 This was the letter that Harry Reid wrote requesting a tip get 1419 01:29:18,990 --> 01:29:22,560 SAP status or special access program status which would open 1420 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,070 up you know a whole new world to them when it came to classified 1421 01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:30,600 information and the access to it. The it was reported that he 1422 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,690 was denied I fought for a couple years to try and get the 1423 01:29:33,900 --> 01:29:38,070 response letter to read and there was none. So they claim 1424 01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:42,510 that there's no records so that's always intriguing to me 1425 01:29:42,510 --> 01:29:42,570 the 1426 01:29:42,570 --> 01:29:44,610 Unknown: terror that you are a deploy office 1427 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:46,200 John Greenewald: I'm sorry say again. 1428 01:29:47,790 --> 01:29:50,670 Unknown: I think you being the terror that you are a deploy 1429 01:29:50,670 --> 01:29:54,600 office those people fear you So yeah, I don't really have an 1430 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,570 awakening when you're asking for things like that. Yeah, 1431 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,210 John Greenewald: I I know that they don't like me too much. I'm 1432 01:30:00,210 --> 01:30:06,510 sure but regardless, you know that I was able to Yeah, thanks. 1433 01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:11,130 I I did though dig up other letters from Harry Reid sent 1434 01:30:11,130 --> 01:30:14,580 that that same day, including the response letters. So it was 1435 01:30:14,580 --> 01:30:17,280 intriguing to me that the response letter for this wasn't 1436 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:21,960 there. But regardless I here's the thing. Luis Elizondo denies 1437 01:30:22,170 --> 01:30:25,560 this and I did ask him this, but I will throw it out there. What 1438 01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,980 if a tip actually did get SAP status or something like a tip 1439 01:30:28,980 --> 01:30:32,520 got SAP status, and that would make a lot of this make sense. 1440 01:30:32,970 --> 01:30:36,360 But But he in fairness, I asked Luis Elizondo that and he did 1441 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,900 deny it said that it didn't. But it wouldn't surprise me if 1442 01:30:39,900 --> 01:30:44,640 something like this branched off into a sap program, I just don't 1443 01:30:44,670 --> 01:30:48,240 believe that they would give access to someone like Robert 1444 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,840 Bigelow, and Bigelow Aerospace. And that that is a show in 1445 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:56,370 itself on why I say that. But regardless, I just don't think 1446 01:30:56,370 --> 01:30:58,770 that it would have been given to the private sector. I think 1447 01:30:58,770 --> 01:31:02,280 stuff like that is either kept in house or if it does go to the 1448 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:07,200 private sector, it goes to a very small list of people that 1449 01:31:07,860 --> 01:31:10,200 that would be able to get a contract like that and have the 1450 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,560 clearance to such sensitive information. So 1451 01:31:13,709 --> 01:31:16,049 Unknown: yeah, well, Mr. Bigelow has the same problem that 1452 01:31:16,049 --> 01:31:19,499 Senator Reid does now that he tend to drop things that he's 1453 01:31:19,499 --> 01:31:23,249 not supposed to. So that's understandable. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, 1454 01:31:23,279 --> 01:31:26,789 john, thank you for all the hard work that you do. And hopefully, 1455 01:31:28,019 --> 01:31:30,149 we'll be able to make a little more sense of this coming into 1456 01:31:30,149 --> 01:31:30,539 the month, 1457 01:31:30,660 --> 01:31:33,510 John Greenewald: I'll do my best that a lot of it doesn't make 1458 01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:35,790 sense to me, but I'll keep asking the questions and try and 1459 01:31:35,790 --> 01:31:37,860 put the puzzle pieces together for you. But thanks so much for 1460 01:31:37,860 --> 01:31:39,030 your call. I really appreciate it. 1461 01:31:40,170 --> 01:31:41,520 Unknown: Hope you enjoy the rest of your day. 1462 01:31:41,670 --> 01:31:44,040 John Greenewald: Thank you. So you, too. All right. So thank 1463 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,450 you for that. I know some of these calls are a little bit 1464 01:31:45,450 --> 01:31:49,260 challenging to hear. But I will do my best to try and translate 1465 01:31:49,260 --> 01:31:52,650 if it doesn't convey audio wise. Good. Here's a super chat 1466 01:31:52,650 --> 01:31:57,690 question from jack 392. JACK, your question, john, what are 1467 01:31:57,690 --> 01:32:00,660 your thoughts on people like Dr. Greer and Uri Geller? Thank you. 1468 01:32:00,690 --> 01:32:04,560 Wow, two wildly different people in my book, just with their 1469 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,260 approach to everything. Let me start with Uri Geller. I mean, I 1470 01:32:07,260 --> 01:32:10,380 don't know a whole lot about him on a personal front, I've never 1471 01:32:10,380 --> 01:32:14,400 met him. I know his connection, obviously, to the remote viewing 1472 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:18,060 program and what they were doing during the Stargate program 1473 01:32:18,210 --> 01:32:23,310 through the CIA and and that time when it was through Sri, or 1474 01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:27,600 where Dr. Hal put off was was involved in that. So that's 1475 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,660 really kind of my connection, whether or not he's a charlatan, 1476 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,940 you know, magician, someone who has or has not the ability, I 1477 01:32:35,940 --> 01:32:39,360 would love to see him do it right in front of my eyes. And 1478 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:43,200 then I'm the type of person that needs to see to believe. So that 1479 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,510 that's kind of how I view stuff like that. I mean, it's it's 1480 01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:49,860 very cool to hear about, but until I personally see it, who 1481 01:32:49,890 --> 01:32:55,470 really knows, Dr. Steven Greer, have that's a tough one for me. 1482 01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:57,360 I mean, I don't want to speak ill about the man there's 1483 01:32:57,420 --> 01:33:00,510 there's a lot that he's done good over the years and a lot, 1484 01:33:00,540 --> 01:33:03,660 not so much. And where I'll say the good stuff, the Disclosure 1485 01:33:03,660 --> 01:33:06,690 Project and bringing forward some of those witnesses, I think 1486 01:33:06,690 --> 01:33:11,610 was great. I think he definitely solidified a part of his work 1487 01:33:11,610 --> 01:33:15,330 into you for logical history that will survive for many years 1488 01:33:15,330 --> 01:33:19,830 to come. I think that that was a very valuable project. I was a 1489 01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:25,140 very let down at some of the vetting of some of the 1490 01:33:25,140 --> 01:33:27,900 witnesses. I remember doing an article I was asked to write for 1491 01:33:27,900 --> 01:33:31,830 UFO magazine many many years ago. And I started digging in 1492 01:33:31,830 --> 01:33:34,530 and uncovering that there were some people that were mentioned 1493 01:33:34,530 --> 01:33:37,320 that didn't want to be mentioned, that they were 1494 01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:43,440 essentially not portrayed correctly in the book and that 1495 01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:47,370 project. But again, other words were and and the press 1496 01:33:47,370 --> 01:33:50,100 conference was a prime example. Some of the other stuff, you 1497 01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:52,980 know, I'm not here to talk bad about the man, I just don't 1498 01:33:52,980 --> 01:33:56,970 agree with the approach, meaning if he can summon UFOs, and wants 1499 01:33:56,970 --> 01:34:00,030 to take people out to teach them how to do it. I think something 1500 01:34:00,030 --> 01:34:04,530 like that would change mankind, and to just slap a big price tag 1501 01:34:04,530 --> 01:34:08,460 on it to go out camping is something that I don't have a 1502 01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:12,000 whole lot of respect for. Just to be blatantly honest. But I'm 1503 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,030 not here to trash the man. Again, that's just an approach 1504 01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:19,620 that doesn't work for me. But if if truly somebody could summon 1505 01:34:20,220 --> 01:34:24,630 or channel or communicate or whatever it is that that he 1506 01:34:24,630 --> 01:34:30,330 truly ultimately claims UFOs and some alien presence. Give that 1507 01:34:30,330 --> 01:34:33,900 to the world. truly don't charge for it. Because what will happen 1508 01:34:33,900 --> 01:34:38,580 to you in the long run will probably give you riches, the 1509 01:34:38,580 --> 01:34:41,790 amount of interviews and book deals and stuff like that, that 1510 01:34:41,790 --> 01:34:46,020 will come along with it will be phenomenal. But if you just want 1511 01:34:46,020 --> 01:34:49,260 to charge people an exceptional amount of money to go camping 1512 01:34:49,260 --> 01:34:51,870 and tell people not to talk about it, and I hear that people 1513 01:34:51,870 --> 01:34:56,520 are forced to sign NDA is it's not my deal. Let me see another 1514 01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,940 super chat question. And of course I lost it. Oh, hold on. 1515 01:35:00,810 --> 01:35:06,870 Apologies. While chat is super busy. Good job, guys really 1516 01:35:06,870 --> 01:35:12,810 appreciate it. About 430 of you watching right now. And if these 1517 01:35:12,810 --> 01:35:17,490 numbers on YouTube are correct, it looks like more than 2789 1518 01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:21,840 have come through the doors to watch at least some of this live 1519 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:27,030 stream. So that's awesome. Thank you guys. Here's from Cole Borg. 1520 01:35:27,060 --> 01:35:30,600 Cole, thank you so much for your support of the channel. I 1521 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,790 apologize if it was already addressed, but would you be able 1522 01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:35,550 to speak to the significance of the incident known as starfish 1523 01:35:35,550 --> 01:35:39,660 prime? Elizondo was asked he said he MPs may have some 1524 01:35:39,660 --> 01:35:42,990 significance. So I think you're talking about the the nuclear 1525 01:35:42,990 --> 01:35:47,220 test. I don't know what interview Elizondo was asked 1526 01:35:47,220 --> 01:35:50,520 that I am happy to address it for you. I apologize. I won't be 1527 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,800 able to do it now. Just simply because I'm not sure which 1528 01:35:52,830 --> 01:35:57,240 interview you're referring to. JOHN at the black vault calm is 1529 01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:00,060 my email address. shoot me an email, let me know what 1530 01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:03,150 interview. I'll do it in a future stream and give thoughts 1531 01:36:03,150 --> 01:36:06,210 on it. But I'm not. I'm so sorry. Because you're obviously 1532 01:36:06,210 --> 01:36:09,120 supporting the channel and I want to answer your question 1533 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,630 here. But I just don't have an answer for you. So I apologize. 1534 01:36:13,050 --> 01:36:19,230 So let me get through that. Just caught my eye make john laugh 1535 01:36:19,230 --> 01:36:24,030 say Cory. Good. No, let's not. Let's not go there. Alright, so 1536 01:36:24,030 --> 01:36:26,220 this collars been on for a little bit. I apologize. Who's 1537 01:36:26,220 --> 01:36:26,520 this? 1538 01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:30,510 Unknown: Hey, this is Rocky. I'm out of Missouri. And I'm a truck 1539 01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:33,150 driver. I'm actually sitting in New Mexico currently. Are you 1540 01:36:33,150 --> 01:36:34,050 doing Hey, john. Hey, 1541 01:36:34,050 --> 01:36:36,000 John Greenewald: Rocky. Thanks for thanks for calling in. I'm 1542 01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,190 very, very good. Thank you. I hope you're safe out there on 1543 01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:39,480 the roads. What can I do for you? 1544 01:36:40,710 --> 01:36:43,770 Unknown: Well, first of all, let me say thank you for all you've 1545 01:36:43,770 --> 01:36:47,970 done on this topic. I truly believe that one day in the 1546 01:36:47,970 --> 01:36:53,610 future, you will be a notated and history as someone who did 1547 01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:56,400 more for this subject than just about anybody else out there. 1548 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,800 And personally, I'd like to thank you for what you did. 1549 01:36:59,940 --> 01:37:01,620 John Greenewald: Well, thank you. Thank you truly for that 1550 01:37:01,620 --> 01:37:03,510 Rocky, I really do appreciate that. 1551 01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,740 Unknown: My comment is it seems to me that the the let's call it 1552 01:37:10,740 --> 01:37:15,180 the UFO community now is as laser focused in on on to this 1553 01:37:15,180 --> 01:37:22,140 past three years. And you really you got to look at this data in 1554 01:37:22,140 --> 01:37:25,650 aggregate, you know, we have radar data that goes back to as 1555 01:37:25,650 --> 01:37:33,990 early as at least 1952 with the DC file. You know, there's not 1556 01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:38,100 verifiable but good reporting of gun camera footage of these 1557 01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:43,470 things as early as World War Two, Korea and Vietnam. You 1558 01:37:43,470 --> 01:37:47,310 know, there's more data out there than just the Nimitz and 1559 01:37:47,370 --> 01:37:52,710 what this UAP Task Force has. And it seems like the community 1560 01:37:52,710 --> 01:37:58,530 is not looking at this entire situation in the aggregate. And 1561 01:37:58,530 --> 01:38:01,350 now you have the government and reporting agencies saying, oh, 1562 01:38:01,350 --> 01:38:04,560 Russia, China, if you look at the data and aggregate of what 1563 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:08,640 these things are doing, going back to the twining memo, it's 1564 01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:13,410 not possible that in the 40s and 50s, Russia, China had jumped 1565 01:38:13,410 --> 01:38:16,800 that far ahead of us, and that they don't control the world 1566 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:21,330 right now. Yeah. I'll see what your comments are, as far as 1567 01:38:21,330 --> 01:38:23,850 that goes. Sure. Yeah. And I appreciate what you do. You 1568 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:25,920 John Greenewald: know, and I, and I appreciate your kind 1569 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,730 words. Thank you. So really, you bring up a great point. And it's 1570 01:38:29,730 --> 01:38:32,130 one I touched on a little bit, but I'll touch on it again, 1571 01:38:32,130 --> 01:38:36,330 because it's important in that this phenomena is not new. And I 1572 01:38:36,330 --> 01:38:39,060 think a lot of people that do enter the field, and they think 1573 01:38:39,060 --> 01:38:42,090 that this is relatively new, and there's a handful of cases and 1574 01:38:42,270 --> 01:38:46,170 select few witnesses. That's not true. This truly does go back to 1575 01:38:46,170 --> 01:38:49,950 the world war two era, arguably much prior to that. But 1576 01:38:49,950 --> 01:38:52,320 obviously, with the gun camera footage, the Foo Fighters 1577 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,870 through World War Two, we were seeing, you know, essentially 1578 01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:58,500 lights out there. We thought it was the Germans or potentially 1579 01:38:58,500 --> 01:39:01,680 the Soviets and they all thought it was us, according to the 1580 01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:05,040 story, legend and lore. So these things have been around for a 1581 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,400 very long time pilots have been encountering them for a very 1582 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:13,410 long time. And there are even files of engagements of these 1583 01:39:13,410 --> 01:39:15,990 objects. I think I got a text message. Why don't we shoot one 1584 01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:19,320 down? Well, there have been engagements with some of these, 1585 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,460 the Thomas mantel case is a prime example where, you know, 1586 01:39:23,490 --> 01:39:26,400 he did engage a UFO tried to chase it ended up crashing and 1587 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,090 dying. So you know that that stuff does happen, whatever this 1588 01:39:30,090 --> 01:39:34,290 phenomena is, it has created these risks and potential 1589 01:39:34,440 --> 01:39:39,420 threats, but it is nothing new. So I do appreciate that point 1590 01:39:39,420 --> 01:39:42,720 because I think it is often overlooked, especially this day 1591 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:47,790 and age because it's all about 2004 Nimitz and 2015. Roosevelt 1592 01:39:47,790 --> 01:39:53,490 and Luis Elizondo a tip but it truly does stretch back into 1593 01:39:53,940 --> 01:39:57,840 history a long way. And what I'm also very excited about is to 1594 01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:03,210 see people like me Luis Elizondo starts start grabbing documents 1595 01:40:03,210 --> 01:40:06,480 from the 50s. And and I think that the general audience 1596 01:40:06,510 --> 01:40:10,350 sometimes thinks that that material is snoozy and boring 1597 01:40:10,350 --> 01:40:14,820 and it's old and who cares. But but on the contrary, it really 1598 01:40:14,820 --> 01:40:19,950 solidifies that the phenomenon is not only real, not only been 1599 01:40:19,950 --> 01:40:23,910 here for quite some time, but it is something that they can not 1600 01:40:24,030 --> 01:40:28,290 understand. And I think that that is one of the biggest, I 1601 01:40:28,290 --> 01:40:31,980 think, overlooked aspects to this, that that again, even Luis 1602 01:40:31,980 --> 01:40:35,040 Elizondo now is saying, hey, look, look at this document from 1603 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:39,780 1950, or whatever it was saying, you know, is this proving that 1604 01:40:39,780 --> 01:40:42,930 the tick tax, whatever they are, have been around for, well, more 1605 01:40:42,930 --> 01:40:46,740 than half a century. So I'm encouraged by that, simply 1606 01:40:46,740 --> 01:40:50,190 because I've spent 25 years digging into, you know, the 1607 01:40:50,190 --> 01:40:53,730 1000s and 1000s of files that stretch back decades upon 1608 01:40:53,730 --> 01:40:57,450 decades. So yeah, I love that point. And I'm glad that you see 1609 01:40:57,450 --> 01:41:02,160 it. And I hope that more more people see it as well. Well, I 1610 01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:06,180 Unknown: hope so too. And as far as, quote, unquote, disclosure, 1611 01:41:06,690 --> 01:41:09,000 there was a memo that came out years ago, I think it was in the 1612 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,720 50s or 60s, I don't remember the exact name of the memo. And I 1613 01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,510 don't remember if it was part of the magic 12 stuff or not, it 1614 01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:20,190 said that disclosure has to be at the sensitization of the US 1615 01:41:20,190 --> 01:41:25,770 public, before it happens. And if you really look at it, I know 1616 01:41:25,770 --> 01:41:29,520 it's going tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. But it 1617 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,750 really, it really fits what's happened. You know, as those 1618 01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:38,370 numbers those polls were done of people who believe in extra test 1619 01:41:38,370 --> 01:41:41,490 terrestrial life out there, and who believed that the 1620 01:41:41,490 --> 01:41:44,940 possibility of extraterrestrial life visiting Earth has 1621 01:41:44,970 --> 01:41:50,490 increased over the years more and more, quote, unquote. Yeah, 1622 01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:52,380 and I'll end with that. Have a good day, sir. 1623 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,660 John Greenewald: I appreciate it. Sir. You take care yourself 1624 01:41:54,660 --> 01:41:56,880 all great. points. Thank you so much. And hopefully, you'll call 1625 01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:01,350 in again, and be safe out there on the roads. Alright, so thanks 1626 01:42:01,350 --> 01:42:05,220 to Rocky and, again, I hope he is safe out there. So here's a 1627 01:42:05,220 --> 01:42:08,880 Super Chat, school craft. Thank you so much for your support by 1628 01:42:08,910 --> 01:42:13,320 a fire on me. Thanks, john, I definitely will do that all 1629 01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,200 those Super Chat donations and everything are very, very much 1630 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,920 appreciated. They go right back into this channel for your 1631 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,940 requests, even the server hosting, which can get rather 1632 01:42:23,940 --> 01:42:28,080 pricey on all of that. So thank you, guys for all of your 1633 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:33,720 support. Let me go ahead and put that one on hold. Here's a text 1634 01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:38,490 a couple text messages real quick. The ga Jeremy releases 1635 01:42:38,490 --> 01:42:41,550 are most likely trading videos for pilots. You have previously 1636 01:42:41,550 --> 01:42:44,070 debunked the Batman balloon, but it continues to be shown 1637 01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:47,610 training videos. That's why they won't classify them. A great 1638 01:42:47,610 --> 01:42:52,440 point. I will I will. By the way, say it was not me who 1639 01:42:52,740 --> 01:42:56,220 debunked the Batman balloon. Rather, somebody had sent that 1640 01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,850 into me, I'm not sure the true route, I believe that somebody 1641 01:42:59,850 --> 01:43:03,960 goes that goes by the moniker of Isaac Koi was the true root of 1642 01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:07,320 that, so credit to him. But also, if that was somebody else, 1643 01:43:07,980 --> 01:43:12,060 then kudos to them, I apologize for not knowing the true root of 1644 01:43:12,060 --> 01:43:17,550 that. But to me, it really is spot on. And in fact, for those 1645 01:43:17,550 --> 01:43:19,980 that haven't seen it, I didn't even put in my video because I 1646 01:43:19,980 --> 01:43:22,470 wasn't aware of it. Somebody actually bought one of those 1647 01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:27,060 Batman balloons, tethered it to a 500 foot string, put it up 1648 01:43:27,090 --> 01:43:30,360 well into the air and from the ground snapped pictures. And 1649 01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:33,690 they were able to snap pictures of it and show that I mean 1650 01:43:33,690 --> 01:43:38,400 literally all nearly identical from every little protrusion of 1651 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,430 it, even a part on the bottom where essentially a string would 1652 01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:44,610 be tied to I know some people hate that theory because it's 1653 01:43:44,610 --> 01:43:48,150 like well how can they go that high? Again, we don't know how 1654 01:43:48,150 --> 01:43:52,830 high it was people were theorizing what it was just bias 1655 01:43:52,830 --> 01:43:56,460 based on the curvature the horn the horizon and so on and so 1656 01:43:56,460 --> 01:43:58,440 forth. But if you read the original news thing they said 1657 01:43:58,440 --> 01:44:02,610 approximately 40,000 feet there was no there was no actual 1658 01:44:02,610 --> 01:44:06,630 evidence put forward so until that comes forward you know i 1659 01:44:06,630 --> 01:44:09,540 mean hey, outcomes razor does apply to at least some of this. 1660 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:13,200 But that was an amazing experiment. So again, john at 1661 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,510 the black vault calm I'll link it over to anybody who cares. 1662 01:44:17,370 --> 01:44:23,010 Again, text messages coming in. Dr. Greer questions. I feel like 1663 01:44:23,010 --> 01:44:26,340 we already touched upon that so I apologize for the person who 1664 01:44:26,340 --> 01:44:33,240 sent that in or maybe it was the same hey there Tim. So john ever 1665 01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:38,280 get anything on the Gulf Breeze? Six. any insight? Thanks. You 1666 01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:42,060 should do a weekly live cast. Yeah, I'm starting to think that 1667 01:44:42,060 --> 01:44:44,160 just simply because the reactions to these have been 1668 01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:48,360 great. So time permitting, I think you'll finally see me do a 1669 01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,810 little bit more of this. The the Gulf brief six. I mean, I'm not 1670 01:44:51,810 --> 01:44:57,180 sure if you're talking about the Gulf Breeze Florida UFO photos 1671 01:44:57,180 --> 01:45:01,050 or like the I was at Ed Walters or whoever was down in Gulfport 1672 01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,170 I apologize for not knowing the reference there and I'll 1673 01:45:04,170 --> 01:45:07,350 probably feel stupid once you tell me. But feel free to email 1674 01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:11,040 me they're more talking about Dr. Curse pretty popular here 1675 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:15,150 with the questions. Here's a different angle. Do you believe 1676 01:45:15,150 --> 01:45:19,320 Dr. Greer in his contention that Elizondo and to the stars 1677 01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:23,070 organization is psyops up to fund more money into black 1678 01:45:23,070 --> 01:45:27,510 programs? To me, that's overthinking I've seen that the 1679 01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:30,180 Greer thing I mean, he's really kind of come out guns blazing, 1680 01:45:30,180 --> 01:45:33,900 so to speak with accusations. I've never bought on to the 1681 01:45:33,900 --> 01:45:37,710 psyop train that, you know, Elizondo into the stars and 1682 01:45:37,710 --> 01:45:40,290 DeLonge, potentially, and so on and so forth. We're involved in 1683 01:45:40,290 --> 01:45:44,910 some CIA run black op, or sign up. I know that that is 1684 01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:47,880 something that has been around for quite some time. I've never 1685 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:52,620 been on that train. I truly don't think so. Just simply 1686 01:45:52,620 --> 01:45:55,980 because let's face it, if they want more money for black budget 1687 01:45:55,980 --> 01:45:59,670 programs, and military, I'm sorry, they can get it. They 1688 01:45:59,670 --> 01:46:02,820 don't need to spearhead it through a Tom DeLonge run 1689 01:46:02,850 --> 01:46:06,240 organization talking about UFOs and building spaceplanes. 1690 01:46:06,450 --> 01:46:10,080 Rather, I think that they will just get money. So again, it's 1691 01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,530 it's more of a simplistic way to look at it. But let's face it, 1692 01:46:13,620 --> 01:46:16,350 if they want it, they get it. So I think that that's something 1693 01:46:16,350 --> 01:46:19,770 that that we have to take into consideration there. I want to 1694 01:46:19,770 --> 01:46:23,070 make sure that I got all the Super Chat ones. Yeah. Let me 1695 01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:25,380 let me hit the phones. I don't want you to stay on hold too 1696 01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:30,090 long. Who's this? Steven? Hey, Steven, I'm sorry, you were on 1697 01:46:30,090 --> 01:46:32,640 hold there. I'm trying to frantically keep up with 1698 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:36,030 everything coming in. So that's fine. I appreciate your 1699 01:46:36,030 --> 01:46:37,170 patience. What can I do for you? 1700 01:46:38,250 --> 01:46:42,750 Unknown: Um, so I kind of had a wild three, but real quick 1701 01:46:42,750 --> 01:46:47,400 questions. One on One was the Nellis Air Force Base. I'm No, 1702 01:46:47,550 --> 01:46:50,730 I'm not. I'm pretty sure that you're aware that alleged 1703 01:46:50,730 --> 01:46:52,170 footage that was leaked? 1704 01:46:52,530 --> 01:46:57,150 Yeah. Like, never gotten any confirmation or any or heard 1705 01:46:57,150 --> 01:46:58,170 anything about that. 1706 01:46:58,200 --> 01:46:59,880 John Greenewald: You're talking about the FLIR footage from many 1707 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:04,980 moons ago? Yeah, yeah, I took to be honest with you have have not 1708 01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:09,420 really received anything, I'll have to look back on my foi 1709 01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:12,900 request. I don't recall ever requesting anything. But if I 1710 01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:15,450 recall, and this is kind of going back in my memory bank 1711 01:47:15,450 --> 01:47:19,980 here, there was really nothing that you could cite other than 1712 01:47:19,980 --> 01:47:23,250 the actual visual. Like, I don't remember if there was any date 1713 01:47:23,250 --> 01:47:26,610 to it, other than like the date of release, I'll revisit that. I 1714 01:47:26,610 --> 01:47:29,400 mean, I may may stand corrected there. If the date was on the 1715 01:47:29,460 --> 01:47:33,450 video, I just don't recall that. So yeah, stuff like that. It's 1716 01:47:33,450 --> 01:47:37,200 very hard to verify. Because with the foi, a, you have to be 1717 01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,960 specific enough that they know where the hell to go to. So you 1718 01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:44,580 can say, you know, I want this video declassified, and then 1719 01:47:44,580 --> 01:47:48,000 send them the video if there's really no way for them to trace 1720 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,790 it or track it. But But I'm happy to revisit it because 1721 01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:54,030 again, I'm going by memory there that there wasn't a date 1722 01:47:54,030 --> 01:47:57,360 attached. But if there was, I'll see if I ever did a FOIA and get 1723 01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:02,970 back to you on it. Okay. And then the next question that I 1724 01:48:02,970 --> 01:48:03,690 had is, 1725 01:48:04,980 --> 01:48:08,520 Unknown: I did see on on Twitter, Stephen Green Street 1726 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,700 put up some videos that allegedly got leaked by I think 1727 01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:15,420 it was the Department of Homeland Security along the 1728 01:48:15,420 --> 01:48:20,490 border. And I don't I was just seeing if you had gotten any 1729 01:48:20,550 --> 01:48:24,000 confirmation or heard, maybe asked or heard anything from 1730 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:28,980 that. When did he post them? I think it was a couple of days 1731 01:48:28,980 --> 01:48:35,670 ago, and it's alleged to be leak from. I think it's like Border 1732 01:48:35,670 --> 01:48:38,490 Patrol or the Department of Homeland Security. 1733 01:48:39,570 --> 01:48:41,820 John Greenewald: Yeah, this is the one that looked like an A 10 1734 01:48:41,850 --> 01:48:46,050 warthog. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, I do 1735 01:48:46,050 --> 01:48:49,290 required to look it up myself. But yeah, I do recall them 1736 01:48:49,290 --> 01:48:53,250 posting this I that's new to me. I haven't I haven't seen that. 1737 01:48:53,250 --> 01:48:57,570 Or, you know, essentially, he even had time to really research 1738 01:48:57,570 --> 01:49:02,220 it at all. But his tweet was the first time that I saw that so I 1739 01:49:02,220 --> 01:49:04,710 wouldn't have anything to add other than, hey, it's 1740 01:49:04,710 --> 01:49:08,490 intriguing. I'd like to see more of it. But I have literally not 1741 01:49:08,490 --> 01:49:12,330 spent any time trying to verify, verify that video. 1742 01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:19,140 Unknown: Okay. And then just the last question. I did find an 1743 01:49:19,140 --> 01:49:24,390 article, I think it was by the drive, and it talks about these 1744 01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:29,100 drones in Iran at the same period, that same time period of 1745 01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:33,810 whenever the Nimitz incident happened stand as a scene a few 1746 01:49:33,870 --> 01:49:38,070 if you had heard about that or or heard anything from that at 1747 01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:38,340 all. 1748 01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:41,520 John Greenewald: That doesn't that doesn't ring a bell from 1749 01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:45,930 the drive. So if you could please email me the article. I'd 1750 01:49:45,930 --> 01:49:48,720 be more than happy to take a look at it. 1751 01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:57,810 Unknown: Yeah, yeah, I'll email it to you. I'm I'm sorry. Oh, 1752 01:49:57,810 --> 01:50:02,190 yeah. Oh, yeah. All the all eat mail it to you. Great. Yeah. I 1753 01:50:02,190 --> 01:50:05,430 John Greenewald: appreciate that, Stephen. And just so you 1754 01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:08,220 know, it is john at the black vault calm. That's my email. I 1755 01:50:08,220 --> 01:50:10,500 welcome anybody who's watching or listening to this, feel free 1756 01:50:10,500 --> 01:50:13,500 to drop me an email. And I'm happy to take a look at it. But 1757 01:50:13,500 --> 01:50:15,390 yeah, thanks for sending that over and thanks for your call, 1758 01:50:15,390 --> 01:50:19,260 Stephen. Okay, thank you. Thanks. Have a good day. Thanks 1759 01:50:19,260 --> 01:50:22,290 you as well. Alright, so a couple more chat things, and I'm 1760 01:50:22,290 --> 01:50:27,090 gonna have to sadly wind it up here. pretty quick. As it been, 1761 01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:31,080 I guess it's already been like two hours. Hey, john, have you 1762 01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:34,170 had a chance to look at UAP theory calm to make a great case 1763 01:50:34,170 --> 01:50:38,010 for a non terrestrial origin of these vehicles? That doesn't 1764 01:50:38,010 --> 01:50:41,310 sound familiar to me as a website that I'm familiar with 1765 01:50:41,340 --> 01:50:44,070 that I may have seen it, but I'm happy to take a look at that. 1766 01:50:44,730 --> 01:50:47,310 Hey, john, so glad to catch this session. You're awesome. Thank 1767 01:50:47,310 --> 01:50:49,920 you for that. My question is, what are your feelings about the 1768 01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,680 comments made by the White House spokeswoman, NASA etc? I know 1769 01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,500 we're interested in what the Pentagon has to say. But lately, 1770 01:50:55,500 --> 01:50:58,050 several others are throwing their hands in the fire. I'm not 1771 01:50:58,050 --> 01:51:01,590 sure what to think about it. I mean, I know NASA, NORAD, and 1772 01:51:01,590 --> 01:51:05,160 the like have to look at these things historically. But until 1773 01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,530 recently, it seems NASA has been less than forthcoming and 1774 01:51:07,530 --> 01:51:10,410 dismissive of the subject. So you may want to rewind to I did 1775 01:51:10,410 --> 01:51:14,850 talk about the NASA the question, but to kind of 1776 01:51:14,850 --> 01:51:17,970 nutshell it for you, I do find that that's a very interesting 1777 01:51:17,970 --> 01:51:21,030 aspect to this. But the way that I look at it is that they were 1778 01:51:21,030 --> 01:51:24,660 forced to acknowledge this. And if they did anything, but 1779 01:51:24,930 --> 01:51:27,660 essentially give the aura that they're taking it seriously, it 1780 01:51:27,660 --> 01:51:30,570 would come back and bite them. So I think that they were forced 1781 01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:36,090 to talk about it and forced to give a serious approach, what 1782 01:51:36,090 --> 01:51:39,360 that approach will essentially conclude, Your guess is as good 1783 01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,580 as mine, but I think that they were forced to because the 1784 01:51:41,580 --> 01:51:44,220 seriousness by the general public and how they're taking 1785 01:51:44,220 --> 01:51:51,330 this nowadays, they had no other choice to but to do that. But 1786 01:51:51,330 --> 01:51:54,720 again, I go into a little bit more detail earlier in the show. 1787 01:51:55,950 --> 01:52:00,510 Black dread Scotland. Thank you so much for your Super Chat. 1788 01:52:00,780 --> 01:52:04,590 Your question, how come we don't see or hear? Excuse me any 1789 01:52:04,590 --> 01:52:07,020 flying saucer videos or pictures? Is it because they 1790 01:52:07,020 --> 01:52:09,270 don't exist? Or is it because the government hides the 1791 01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:14,490 pictures videos real? Well? Well, I mean, arguably, you do 1792 01:52:14,490 --> 01:52:17,760 see them. If you're talking about official government 1793 01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:21,660 releases, those are a little bit more hard to come by, just by 1794 01:52:21,660 --> 01:52:27,930 chance, I had posted a CIA file of all of the archived UFO 1795 01:52:27,930 --> 01:52:32,370 photographs that they had within their holdings. Now for warning, 1796 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,430 some of them are silly, like lenticular clouds. And there's 1797 01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:39,330 no context to the actual photos. So yes, some of them are easily 1798 01:52:39,330 --> 01:52:42,720 explainable, but you'll also find flying saucer photographs 1799 01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,870 in there. The other friendly caveat is it's like they use 1800 01:52:45,870 --> 01:52:51,180 this archaic photo photocopy machine to actually photocopy 1801 01:52:51,180 --> 01:52:54,210 them. So make sure that you know you take that into 1802 01:52:54,210 --> 01:52:57,810 consideration, but there's like well over 100 of them, and these 1803 01:52:57,810 --> 01:53:01,080 are the photos that were officially held by the CIA. The 1804 01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:05,100 question mark is why why did they have them and sadly, 1805 01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:08,040 there's not a whole lot of context, but you'll be able to 1806 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,400 see some flying saucer pictures in there. It seems to me though 1807 01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:15,210 the the buzzword nowadays really are like the tic tac, you know, 1808 01:53:15,210 --> 01:53:18,480 and, and that that that in itself is nothing new. The Tic 1809 01:53:18,480 --> 01:53:22,440 Tac verbiage is, but in history, they call them cigar shaped 1810 01:53:22,440 --> 01:53:26,400 UFOs. And I think that a lot of people are missing that a tick 1811 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:30,810 tack UFO is the same darn thing as a cigar shaped UFO. Which 1812 01:53:30,810 --> 01:53:35,790 cases stretch back decades and decades throughout the world. So 1813 01:53:35,820 --> 01:53:41,190 that in itself is nothing new. The military aspect of it. Yeah, 1814 01:53:41,190 --> 01:53:44,610 that doesn't happen every day. So that's fascinating. But I 1815 01:53:44,610 --> 01:53:47,850 think my bigger point with that is there is a big historical 1816 01:53:47,850 --> 01:53:51,180 narrative to support that these types of objects have been 1817 01:53:51,180 --> 01:53:54,180 around for a long time, or at least the shape of them, and the 1818 01:53:54,180 --> 01:53:57,390 description thereof, in the project bluebook files and they 1819 01:53:57,390 --> 01:54:01,140 were shown on CNN and Fox News. And then I ended up just kind of 1820 01:54:01,140 --> 01:54:04,410 showing context of where they came from. describe them as a 1821 01:54:04,410 --> 01:54:08,820 flying lozenge, and a flying butane tank because at the time, 1822 01:54:09,060 --> 01:54:13,530 that's how they described them nowadays, tic tac is the phrase 1823 01:54:13,530 --> 01:54:17,580 of choice. So you do see them arguably, they're just not as 1824 01:54:17,580 --> 01:54:22,620 prevalent of course as that we would want them to be Dustin 1825 01:54:22,650 --> 01:54:27,000 Allen, thank you so much for that Super Chat. Do you have any 1826 01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,630 info on a program entitled Zodiac I've heard it mentioned a 1827 01:54:30,630 --> 01:54:35,160 few times but without contact context as to what it is or why 1828 01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:38,130 it exists. I saw a clip on Twitter 1829 01:54:40,260 --> 01:54:44,430 my reaction to it was a little bit of a surprise just simply 1830 01:54:44,430 --> 01:54:47,460 because I off the top of my head that did not ring a bell again. 1831 01:54:47,460 --> 01:54:50,310 It's one of those things because there's so many aspects and 1832 01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:53,190 facets to this. One of you may post it in the chat and I'll 1833 01:54:53,190 --> 01:54:55,920 miss it or send me an email. Hey, Zodiac is this way you've 1834 01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:58,800 no don't know about it. And then it'll ring a bell so I'll feel 1835 01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,160 like a dummy but A lot of it, you know, again, there's so much 1836 01:55:02,370 --> 01:55:05,940 the Zodiac stuff just didn't ring a bell mj 12 obviously did 1837 01:55:05,940 --> 01:55:11,100 the Collins elite obviously did Zodiac didn't mean that's a 1838 01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:15,150 serial killer, I think to me, so it didn't really didn't really 1839 01:55:15,150 --> 01:55:18,540 jive. So I'm not really sure what that was. But I was 1840 01:55:18,540 --> 01:55:21,930 intrigued. That's something I saw on the last day. Engaging 1841 01:55:21,930 --> 01:55:26,310 the phenomenon, I believe was the show that did that. So 1842 01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:30,000 credit to James who runs that that channel? Who's a very cool, 1843 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,420 dude. So if you guys have not seen his channel, it's called 1844 01:55:33,420 --> 01:55:37,500 engaging the phenomenon. I know, he just started a podcast. And I 1845 01:55:37,500 --> 01:55:40,260 wish him all the best with that. But I believe that it was his 1846 01:55:40,260 --> 01:55:43,740 interview with Luis Elizondo that that came out with so kudos 1847 01:55:43,740 --> 01:55:49,440 to him, but I don't know exactly what the reference was. So let 1848 01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:54,780 me let me go ahead and go to the phones. Apologies on your whole 1849 01:55:54,780 --> 01:56:00,090 time. Who's this? Hey, how you doing? This is Paul, how are 1850 01:56:00,090 --> 01:56:04,440 you? I'm good, sir. How are you? I'm doing pretty good. 1851 01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:09,420 Unknown: I'm doing a little background work. And I'm hoping 1852 01:56:09,420 --> 01:56:13,950 you can answer a few questions. I'll do my best. When you 1853 01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:20,820 interviewed Lou, Mr. Elizondo, were you? Were you limited into 1854 01:56:20,820 --> 01:56:23,670 the scope of your questions? No. 1855 01:56:24,629 --> 01:56:27,839 John Greenewald: And and I'll stress that he never once said 1856 01:56:27,839 --> 01:56:32,189 Don't ask me X, Y or Z. He was never had any stipulations. 1857 01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,330 Unknown: And he's an interesting guy. And there's not a lot of 1858 01:56:36,330 --> 01:56:41,220 open source information. Correct. I mean, he, he did work 1859 01:56:41,220 --> 01:56:48,210 for the CIA. Correct? Do D. That's also part of my question. 1860 01:56:49,050 --> 01:56:53,790 The CIA and the D o. t. Does one answer to the other? 1861 01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:56,430 John Greenewald: No, they're independent, essentially, 1862 01:56:56,430 --> 01:56:59,580 organization. So the CIA is part of the intelligence community. 1863 01:57:00,060 --> 01:57:02,070 They're not part of the Department of Defense, the 1864 01:57:02,070 --> 01:57:05,940 Defense Intelligence Agency is under the umbrella of the D o t. 1865 01:57:06,990 --> 01:57:09,540 But again, two different agencies there. 1866 01:57:11,490 --> 01:57:15,480 Unknown: So if you were, if you were to request information from 1867 01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:19,860 the do D, you know, a FOIA request about Lou, and he was 1868 01:57:19,860 --> 01:57:24,810 indeed employed by the CIA, you wouldn't get any information? 1869 01:57:25,769 --> 01:57:28,019 John Greenewald: Well, again, this the CIA, I mean, I'm not 1870 01:57:28,019 --> 01:57:31,199 sure if he did work with them. There's a lot of aspects to Luis 1871 01:57:31,199 --> 01:57:35,339 Elizondo his background that are super intriguing to me. And 1872 01:57:35,339 --> 01:57:38,579 that's a way from a tip and UFOs. I don't want to start any 1873 01:57:38,579 --> 01:57:41,669 unfounded rumors here. I don't believe that he's ever said he's 1874 01:57:41,669 --> 01:57:45,509 worked for the CIA. But again, I could stand corrected. What I do 1875 01:57:45,509 --> 01:57:49,019 know is that and what is provable and confirmed is that 1876 01:57:49,019 --> 01:57:51,479 he worked for the Department of Defense and worked for them for 1877 01:57:51,509 --> 01:57:55,439 for quite a few years. His job title when he resigned was the 1878 01:57:55,439 --> 01:57:59,639 Director of the National programs, special management 1879 01:57:59,639 --> 01:58:02,999 staff. I'm sorry, national programs, special management 1880 01:58:02,999 --> 01:58:07,679 staff. Yeah. And psms. Sorry, it's a mouthful. That job title, 1881 01:58:08,039 --> 01:58:14,249 it I've been able to dig a very few things. But one aspect of 1882 01:58:14,249 --> 01:58:18,629 that job title was orchestrating SAP access or access to special 1883 01:58:18,629 --> 01:58:22,769 access programs. And I was able to tie Luis Elizondo his office 1884 01:58:23,009 --> 01:58:28,979 into the trial of Khalid Sheikh Muhammad. And I ended up asking 1885 01:58:29,339 --> 01:58:33,149 Luis Elizondo that last week when I had interviewed him, and 1886 01:58:33,149 --> 01:58:36,479 for obvious reasons, he can't go into detail. But I'm here to 1887 01:58:36,569 --> 01:58:40,709 back them up in the sense that I found Navy court transcripts to 1888 01:58:40,709 --> 01:58:44,939 show what his office did. But to your point, that very little is 1889 01:58:44,939 --> 01:58:48,689 known about it. That is absolutely true. Very little is 1890 01:58:48,689 --> 01:58:52,229 known about him. And very little is known about his office. And I 1891 01:58:52,229 --> 01:58:55,499 think that that is by design. So it doesn't matter. And I'm not 1892 01:58:55,529 --> 01:58:58,139 pointing this directly at you, sir. But just in general, it 1893 01:58:58,139 --> 01:59:01,589 doesn't matter what you think on UFOs or his connection to a tip 1894 01:59:01,589 --> 01:59:06,089 or whatever. What you can prove is that he was deeply entrenched 1895 01:59:06,299 --> 01:59:11,609 in these classified essentially programs within the D o t. Then 1896 01:59:11,609 --> 01:59:15,449 the question mark comes running a UFO, what they call Pentagon 1897 01:59:15,449 --> 01:59:18,449 secret UFO study. That's a different question. But there's 1898 01:59:18,449 --> 01:59:21,209 a lot of unanswered elements to a story. 1899 01:59:22,710 --> 01:59:26,280 Unknown: I have read that his supervisors all gave him you 1900 01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:31,620 know, high high marks. He wasn't a low level guy, as far as I can 1901 01:59:31,620 --> 01:59:38,130 tell. I mean, he. It sounds like the UFO gig, the eight tip gig 1902 01:59:38,130 --> 01:59:42,030 was almost like just, you know, an assignment. Hey, we're here 1903 01:59:42,030 --> 01:59:45,480 we go. We need and I'm kind of curious as to what that 1904 01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:49,350 assignment actually is. How do you go from waterboarding, you 1905 01:59:49,350 --> 01:59:53,910 know, the shake, to investigating UFOs Yeah, once 1906 01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:57,330 again, that's only you know, I can't I have no information to 1907 01:59:57,330 --> 02:00:05,820 prove that he was involved in any kind of Enhanced, enhance 1908 02:00:05,820 --> 02:00:09,630 the information techniques. Yeah. And I have no, I have not 1909 02:00:09,630 --> 02:00:13,770 met nothing to prove that he you know, we sold manpad stuff. You 1910 02:00:13,770 --> 02:00:18,300 know, the Hootie rebels? Yeah, once again, that would it would 1911 02:00:18,300 --> 02:00:25,350 seem to me, gentlemen like this has, has something he does this 1912 02:00:25,350 --> 02:00:28,950 is he's not doing this because he suddenly decides he wants to, 1913 02:00:28,980 --> 02:00:33,660 you know, find out if we're being invaded by Martians. You 1914 02:00:33,660 --> 02:00:37,320 know, I don't I don't think he gives a damn one way or the 1915 02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:38,160 other. Yeah. 1916 02:00:38,910 --> 02:00:41,430 John Greenewald: Well, there again, this is why I say he's 1917 02:00:41,430 --> 02:00:44,640 very intriguing. And I've said this, this part for quite some 1918 02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:47,070 time. And there's a lot of elements that we don't know. And 1919 02:00:47,070 --> 02:00:51,000 again, tying into Guantanamo Bay and get mo and he's admitted 1920 02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:54,900 that now and when I first came out with that Navy transcript, I 1921 02:00:54,900 --> 02:00:59,550 don't believe he had ever talked about get mo at all. And then in 1922 02:00:59,550 --> 02:01:03,990 time, you know, with the 12,000 interviews he's done, you know, 1923 02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:06,720 he's he's come out with more of his background. And I'm here to 1924 02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:09,900 say that there's documentation to essentially support that. I 1925 02:01:09,900 --> 02:01:13,230 mean, I don't know what he did it did get mo or, you know where 1926 02:01:13,230 --> 02:01:17,070 he was? I can tell you I'm not done with that aspect of the 1927 02:01:17,070 --> 02:01:20,850 story. So that I will say, but there's still a lot of 1928 02:01:20,850 --> 02:01:23,850 unanswered questions. So you know, he's, he's an intriguing 1929 02:01:23,850 --> 02:01:29,160 guy. He really is. And and I'm, I'm eager to find out more. Are 1930 02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:32,880 you familiar with the work of the dark journalist? I am? Yeah. 1931 02:01:33,060 --> 02:01:35,370 I've been on his show a couple times in the past. Yep. 1932 02:01:36,510 --> 02:01:40,350 Unknown: You know, he mentioned that lose dad was in imprisoned 1933 02:01:40,350 --> 02:01:47,550 in, in Cuba, after the Bay of Pigs. And I simply wanted to 1934 02:01:47,550 --> 02:01:51,360 find out, try to confirm that. Yeah. And I have a lot of 1935 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,110 discretion every time and I couldn't, I can't confirm 1936 02:01:55,110 --> 02:01:56,400 anything on loop. 1937 02:01:57,390 --> 02:01:59,550 John Greenewald: Yeah, well, here's what I will say. Just 1938 02:01:59,550 --> 02:02:03,300 Just to be respectful. I don't know the answer to it. And I 1939 02:02:03,300 --> 02:02:07,770 don't want to, you know, I don't know what the dark journalist 1940 02:02:07,770 --> 02:02:10,920 channel has has said about that. So what I would recommend, as 1941 02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:15,450 maybe you write into him, just simply because I don't know the 1942 02:02:15,450 --> 02:02:18,750 claim. And I don't want to make the claim here either. And 1943 02:02:18,750 --> 02:02:21,900 mislead anybody, because I don't know what the what the truth is 1944 02:02:21,900 --> 02:02:24,780 behind that. I would 1945 02:02:24,780 --> 02:02:28,320 Unknown: ask you just a couple more things. You know, I was 1946 02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:31,950 intrigued by the fact that I personally believe he was 1947 02:02:31,980 --> 02:02:36,930 employed by the you know, that, that the CIA, I think he was a 1948 02:02:36,930 --> 02:02:44,700 journeymen for the CIA? I believe he still is. Okay, I'm 1949 02:02:44,700 --> 02:02:53,370 wondering if he can he commit a crime? Of course of his work if 1950 02:02:53,370 --> 02:02:58,620 he was employed by the CIA at CIA? Can he commit a crime? So 1951 02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:02,490 John Greenewald: we're going to, we're treading into territory I 1952 02:03:02,490 --> 02:03:07,860 don't want to go to simply because I don't know of a CIA 1953 02:03:07,860 --> 02:03:09,780 background. And I understand you're, it sounds like you're 1954 02:03:09,780 --> 02:03:11,040 doing your own research. 1955 02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:15,210 Unknown: So there's a few postings where he, you know, he 1956 02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:21,660 mentioned bosses, his boss being, you know, Director of the 1957 02:03:21,660 --> 02:03:24,840 CIA, but I don't know how the timelines run off. Everything is 1958 02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:30,240 really vague. Sure, if he was if he was employed by the CIA, and 1959 02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:32,250 still is, can he commit a crime? 1960 02:03:32,610 --> 02:03:34,020 John Greenewald: Yeah, I don't want to go there. Because I 1961 02:03:34,020 --> 02:03:37,080 don't know the right answer. And I don't want to insinuate 1962 02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:43,260 anything on either, so Well, that's fair enough. Yeah. I so I 1963 02:03:43,290 --> 02:03:45,660 and I truly, I'm not dodging your question. I just don't know 1964 02:03:45,660 --> 02:03:48,870 the legality of it. But I don't want to insinuate that anybody 1965 02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:51,480 is committing a crime and getting away with it. So 1966 02:03:52,650 --> 02:03:55,740 although I do appreciate the question, I just, I'm gonna I'm 1967 02:03:55,740 --> 02:04:01,110 gonna not not go there. But, yeah, but that said, I. 1968 02:04:03,060 --> 02:04:06,690 Unknown: I do believe that there's some kind of ulterior 1969 02:04:06,690 --> 02:04:12,780 motive behind ttsa. And the group of people involved. I 1970 02:04:12,780 --> 02:04:15,210 don't think it's a you know, they're trying to get more 1971 02:04:15,210 --> 02:04:17,820 money. Like you said, if they need more money. Yeah, they're 1972 02:04:17,820 --> 02:04:22,500 just, they can print it. Yeah. Yeah, you got something up their 1973 02:04:22,500 --> 02:04:25,980 sleeve. I'd really like to know what because these are not low 1974 02:04:25,980 --> 02:04:26,850 level people. 1975 02:04:27,030 --> 02:04:31,110 John Greenewald: Yeah, no, I gotcha. What what, here's my 1976 02:04:31,110 --> 02:04:33,330 final thought, and then I'm gonna have to let you go just 1977 02:04:33,330 --> 02:04:36,210 simply because I got to wrap up the show now. Yeah. But my final 1978 02:04:36,210 --> 02:04:40,740 thought on the ttsa thing, and again, I I feel anyway, over the 1979 02:04:40,740 --> 02:04:45,270 last few years, some have over thought their involvement. I 1980 02:04:45,270 --> 02:04:49,620 truly think that at the root of it, it was a corporation. They 1981 02:04:49,620 --> 02:04:53,370 were trying to raise $50,000,000.05 zero 50 million. 1982 02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:56,610 That was their intention. And they wanted to essentially 1983 02:04:56,610 --> 02:04:59,820 compete with the Elon Musk's and the Richard Branson's of the 1984 02:04:59,820 --> 02:05:04,020 world. Get into the space race, so to speak. There's nothing 1985 02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:08,280 wrong with that. I'm I won't chastise that. But I think that 1986 02:05:08,310 --> 02:05:12,330 that that has to be taken into consideration that a motivating 1987 02:05:12,330 --> 02:05:16,290 factor for them was potentially financial. And it wasn't for the 1988 02:05:16,290 --> 02:05:20,340 greater good. It wasn't about bringing UFO information out. It 1989 02:05:20,340 --> 02:05:24,060 was creating a business. Now that's not conspiratorial, but 1990 02:05:24,060 --> 02:05:26,730 rather something that you have to consider when you have these 1991 02:05:26,730 --> 02:05:29,820 types of players that, yes, have a intelligence agency 1992 02:05:29,820 --> 02:05:34,260 background, and some were CIA and stuff like that all coming 1993 02:05:34,260 --> 02:05:37,350 together. I'm sure they weren't all doing it out of the good 1994 02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:40,620 graces of their heart. I mean, that that's not that's not 1995 02:05:40,620 --> 02:05:44,310 demeaning them in any way. But rather, that is the reality of 1996 02:05:44,310 --> 02:05:49,080 how today works. You know, that that is what I believe was the 1997 02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:53,670 original intent. But they fell far short of that 50 million 1998 02:05:53,670 --> 02:05:57,450 mark, they felt far short of the goals that they set forth. 1999 02:05:57,990 --> 02:06:01,140 They've now Frank got like $2 million, right? It was a little 2000 02:06:01,140 --> 02:06:04,380 over 2 million from what I understand. And and obviously, 2001 02:06:04,410 --> 02:06:07,800 the the key players, some of the key players have branched off, 2002 02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:12,270 and one took another job in the private sector and so on. So I 2003 02:06:12,270 --> 02:06:14,400 think that if you were really talking about the goodness of 2004 02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:18,240 your heart, being the main motivating factor, none of that 2005 02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:21,360 would have happened, but rather, look, everybody's got to pay the 2006 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:23,910 bills, I got to have a job, you have to have a job, everybody's 2007 02:06:23,910 --> 02:06:27,510 got to have a job. So I think that a lot of people have 2008 02:06:27,510 --> 02:06:30,570 overthought that ttsa involvement, in my opinion. 2009 02:06:31,500 --> 02:06:34,110 Unknown: My last point, I gotta think if it was indeed 2010 02:06:34,110 --> 02:06:38,880 financial, you know, $50 million to Mr. Mellon is a rounding 2011 02:06:38,910 --> 02:06:39,360 error. 2012 02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,030 John Greenewald: Correct. But But again, the but there's a 2013 02:06:42,030 --> 02:06:44,220 missing element. I don't mean to step on yet. The missing 2014 02:06:44,220 --> 02:06:46,470 element, though, is you have to, you have to take into 2015 02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:49,350 consideration, what would they have done to that $50 million, 2016 02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:52,800 they wouldn't have kept it. Rather, that was your initial 2017 02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:56,280 investment money that they would then take to turn it around, 2018 02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:59,250 create whatever it was, they were going to create, and make 2019 02:06:59,250 --> 02:07:04,080 that 50 million and to 500 million, you know, and so there 2020 02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:08,190 was, there was a bigger intent with that. And and it was just 2021 02:07:08,190 --> 02:07:11,880 essentially planting the seed. Now, I'm also not saying that 2022 02:07:11,910 --> 02:07:14,580 Christopher Mellon would be top of my list, that would be 2023 02:07:14,580 --> 02:07:17,910 motivated by money. He truly does strike me as someone who's 2024 02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:21,990 genuinely out there pushing this issue, because he's genuinely 2025 02:07:21,990 --> 02:07:25,500 concerned about it. So again, I wouldn't put him on that list. 2026 02:07:25,740 --> 02:07:28,710 But in fairness, I think some of the other people involved in 2027 02:07:28,710 --> 02:07:32,370 that would be on that list that were more potentially motivated 2028 02:07:32,370 --> 02:07:36,480 by, okay, this is a job for me. Sure. UFOs are great. And yeah, 2029 02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:39,900 they're, they're important, but I gotta pay my bills, too, you 2030 02:07:39,900 --> 02:07:42,960 know, so I don't consider Mellon on the top of that list. But I 2031 02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:45,930 would absolutely consider some of the others potentially on it. 2032 02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:46,440 So 2033 02:07:46,980 --> 02:07:49,110 Unknown: hopefully, that explains your time. No problem. 2034 02:07:49,740 --> 02:07:52,950 I realize it's late. I'll, I'll try to get back to you. I 2035 02:07:52,950 --> 02:07:54,780 appreciate your your thoughts, sir. 2036 02:07:54,810 --> 02:07:56,910 John Greenewald: No problem. Thank you. And thanks for 2037 02:07:56,910 --> 02:08:00,240 listening. So let me make sure I didn't miss anything there. And 2038 02:08:00,270 --> 02:08:02,850 I wasn't dodging his question, but I'm sure you guys can figure 2039 02:08:02,850 --> 02:08:05,880 it out. You know, I just don't want to go to the placing of 2040 02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:09,210 accusations there and former CIA and stuff like that. He may have 2041 02:08:09,210 --> 02:08:14,100 very well talked about it. But you know, who knows what, what, 2042 02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:16,860 where that came from. And I just didn't want to go there. 2043 02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:22,500 Thoughts on the lease Elizondo saying he was told by someone in 2044 02:08:22,500 --> 02:08:25,110 government that UFOs are demonic. I've heard that quite a 2045 02:08:25,110 --> 02:08:27,570 few times. I've always had potential concerns about it, 2046 02:08:27,570 --> 02:08:31,110 just simply because what one man or woman's opinion is, doesn't 2047 02:08:31,110 --> 02:08:38,460 necessarily either get or stop the funding of something. So I, 2048 02:08:38,460 --> 02:08:40,950 you know, again, these government officials on the 2049 02:08:40,950 --> 02:08:44,310 inside, I'll be it could very well think that this is demonic. 2050 02:08:44,460 --> 02:08:47,670 I don't believe that they're making financial decisions to 2051 02:08:47,670 --> 02:08:50,880 either fund or not fund a program based on that. I know 2052 02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,730 that Luis Elizondo said that that played a role. And I don't 2053 02:08:53,730 --> 02:08:56,760 want to seem disrespectful by going against that, I would just 2054 02:08:56,760 --> 02:09:00,810 be very surprised to hear that that was truly an official 2055 02:09:00,810 --> 02:09:05,010 stance within the arms of the God. And then they got out word, 2056 02:09:05,250 --> 02:09:07,950 that we're not touching a tip that there's demons flying out 2057 02:09:07,950 --> 02:09:12,300 there. I just don't see it. the nuts and bolts aspect of this 2058 02:09:12,300 --> 02:09:15,780 are a potential concern. They have been convinced enough to do 2059 02:09:15,780 --> 02:09:19,650 a task force and to throw at least some money to it, and it's 2060 02:09:19,650 --> 02:09:23,280 got the senate attention. I don't believe that if there was 2061 02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:27,240 a demonic aspect, or if there was a belief of a demonic aspect 2062 02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:30,900 to this, that that would play any role internally on a smaller 2063 02:09:30,900 --> 02:09:34,860 scale water cooler type talk. Yeah, maybe. I just don't 2064 02:09:34,860 --> 02:09:39,180 believe that that truly would be the nail in the coffin for 2065 02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:43,740 thwarting this type of effort. I mean, no disrespect to Luis 2066 02:09:43,740 --> 02:09:49,590 Elizondo by again not not believing 100% of that aspect to 2067 02:09:49,590 --> 02:09:54,360 it. Lots of Luis Elizondo questions does Elizondo his 2068 02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:57,000 occasional woo talk like on his interview with engaging the 2069 02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:00,480 phenomena undermine his credibility for you. If We trust 2070 02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:03,360 him on one thing a tip. Don't we have to trust him on everything? 2071 02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:08,040 He says? I don't know exactly what you're talking about with 2072 02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:12,540 whoo talk other than I'm I believe that I do in that is the 2073 02:10:12,540 --> 02:10:17,100 fact that he's now is talking a little bit more about life 2074 02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:21,840 forms, essentially speculating a little bit more people read into 2075 02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:25,020 that speculation does he have insider knowledge of something? 2076 02:10:25,710 --> 02:10:28,200 I'm asking those questions because I don't know the answer. 2077 02:10:28,230 --> 02:10:31,710 I don't know if he would have insider knowledge or anything 2078 02:10:31,710 --> 02:10:34,680 like that. But I do fall back that if there was this 2079 02:10:34,680 --> 02:10:40,680 connection to a little bit more that whoo talk, that that would 2080 02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:43,860 be classified in nature. I mean, I truly believe that if they 2081 02:10:43,860 --> 02:10:48,000 were able to prove offworld vehicles, if they were alien, if 2082 02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,550 they were able to prove that aliens were living in our ocean, 2083 02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:54,630 whatever the whoo talk is that you're exactly referring to. I 2084 02:10:54,630 --> 02:10:57,480 believe that stuff like that would be a classified in nature 2085 02:10:57,510 --> 02:11:01,770 topic. So you wouldn't see Mr. Luis Elizondo going out talking 2086 02:11:01,770 --> 02:11:05,400 about it. But in fairness, he has every room to speculate just 2087 02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:09,960 like me, just like you just like anybody who, who has a platform 2088 02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:13,560 to do so. So there's nothing wrong with speculation. But in 2089 02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:17,400 the same respect, we shouldn't, we shouldn't read into it too 2090 02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:19,770 much. Now, if he comes out and says he's got insider knowledge 2091 02:11:19,770 --> 02:11:21,720 that something's extraterrestrial, or offworld 2092 02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:25,500 vehicle, or whatever, cool, we can have that conversation. But 2093 02:11:25,500 --> 02:11:28,830 I also don't want to miss label what he's saying, because he, 2094 02:11:29,010 --> 02:11:33,540 like me, has room to speculate also, based on the information 2095 02:11:33,540 --> 02:11:37,500 that we have seen, and obviously that applies to all of you as 2096 02:11:37,500 --> 02:11:43,350 well. So great question. But, oh, in regards to undermining 2097 02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:47,730 his credibility, you know, I don't find any problem with the, 2098 02:11:47,820 --> 02:11:50,940 with the speculation, you know, and and people are going to 2099 02:11:50,940 --> 02:11:53,610 believe certain things or speculate in certain ways that I 2100 02:11:53,610 --> 02:11:56,820 don't necessarily agree with or that you don't necessarily agree 2101 02:11:56,820 --> 02:12:00,750 with. I speculate in certain ways that people on this channel 2102 02:12:00,780 --> 02:12:03,570 don't agree with me on and that's okay. That's, that's, 2103 02:12:03,900 --> 02:12:08,190 that's all part of the game. And that's the fun of this topic. So 2104 02:12:08,370 --> 02:12:11,010 I would say let's give him room to speculate. I'm always 2105 02:12:11,010 --> 02:12:14,430 intrigued by his speculation, and that if he is going to 2106 02:12:14,430 --> 02:12:17,250 double down on that speculation and say that it's grounded in 2107 02:12:17,250 --> 02:12:21,480 some kind of wreckage that he held or photograph that he saw 2108 02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:24,990 or video that he uncovered or whatever, we can definitely have 2109 02:12:24,990 --> 02:12:27,750 that conversation but until then, I think he's just doing 2110 02:12:27,750 --> 02:12:30,870 what a lot of us are doing and taking our experiences and what 2111 02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:36,240 we've seen and then speculating a little bit another Luis 2112 02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:39,300 Elizondo question Luis Elizondo got upset with narrative with 2113 02:12:39,300 --> 02:12:41,820 the narrative he is disinformation 2114 02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:46,890 and I'm sorry I'm a little disjointed here Luis Elizondo 2115 02:12:46,890 --> 02:12:50,070 got upset with the narrative that he is a disinformation said 2116 02:12:50,070 --> 02:12:53,880 against the law for him to just inform Okay, so essentially this 2117 02:12:53,910 --> 02:12:57,510 disinformation allegations against him he got upset because 2118 02:12:57,510 --> 02:13:00,900 it would be illegal for him to do so. And he's and he's likely 2119 02:13:00,930 --> 02:13:04,860 right. But has that stopped the government as a whole from doing 2120 02:13:04,860 --> 02:13:08,910 that in the past thing answers a clear and resounding no. So 2121 02:13:08,910 --> 02:13:11,220 that's not against Luis Elizondo, but rather the 2122 02:13:11,220 --> 02:13:15,390 government as an entity. They absolutely have done that one 2123 02:13:15,390 --> 02:13:26,670 more. Picture pictures. Okay. Sorry, I'm skimming through 2124 02:13:26,670 --> 02:13:33,300 here. Wow, non UFO question. I have to take this operation Snow 2125 02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:35,970 White documents. Is there any information posted on the black 2126 02:13:35,970 --> 02:13:38,580 vault that discuss what Lawrence Wright described as FBI agents 2127 02:13:38,580 --> 02:13:42,930 discovering 120 people huddled huddled in a pitch black 2128 02:13:42,930 --> 02:13:46,230 basement and placed in small cubicles at the Church of 2129 02:13:46,230 --> 02:13:52,080 Scientology headquarters in LA. So this Wow, non UFO question. I 2130 02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:54,780 don't even know what to do with that. operation. Snow White 2131 02:13:54,780 --> 02:13:57,840 obviously, was a code name for essentially the Church of 2132 02:13:57,840 --> 02:14:01,260 Scientology infiltrating numerous government agencies and 2133 02:14:01,290 --> 02:14:05,130 essentially stealing information. Some people went to 2134 02:14:05,430 --> 02:14:09,120 jail after pleading guilty. I just posted a ton of documents 2135 02:14:09,510 --> 02:14:13,350 about that. So if you go to the black vault.com, just search for 2136 02:14:13,350 --> 02:14:17,580 operation Snow White, it will pop up or search for Scientology 2137 02:14:17,580 --> 02:14:20,580 and you'll actually come up with Snow White documents, but also a 2138 02:14:20,580 --> 02:14:25,710 bigger file on the Church of Scientology itself. I won't say 2139 02:14:25,710 --> 02:14:29,520 that I've studied all of the information that has come out on 2140 02:14:30,060 --> 02:14:33,990 those FBI files. So there's a lot to read off the top of my 2141 02:14:33,990 --> 02:14:36,780 head. No, that does not sound familiar with the Lawrence 2142 02:14:36,780 --> 02:14:40,950 Wright and 120 people how to huddled in a pitch black 2143 02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:43,920 basement. That doesn't mean it's not there. So I would definitely 2144 02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:47,400 download those records if you're interested. But there's a lot 2145 02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:50,640 there. And and admittedly, I would not be versed on every 2146 02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:53,640 single page. So hopefully that'll that'll point you into 2147 02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:56,940 the right direction. Let me bring in this caller so sorry 2148 02:14:56,940 --> 02:15:01,290 for the hold. Who's this? Hey, JOHN, this is Jordan from 2149 02:15:01,290 --> 02:15:04,350 Minnesota. Thanks for taking my call. Hey, Jordan, thanks for 2150 02:15:04,380 --> 02:15:06,420 calling. It's my pleasure. Sorry about the whole time What can I 2151 02:15:06,420 --> 02:15:06,960 do for you? 2152 02:15:08,189 --> 02:15:10,889 Unknown: So you are the king of foyers, you are always chasing 2153 02:15:10,889 --> 02:15:13,979 down the truth. And I know here in the UFO ology world, it's a 2154 02:15:14,339 --> 02:15:17,669 hunt between a number of different departments and people 2155 02:15:17,669 --> 02:15:20,909 and trying to get straight answers. So my question to you 2156 02:15:20,909 --> 02:15:25,169 is, let's say someone gave you a truth serum. And you were able 2157 02:15:25,169 --> 02:15:29,939 to use that truth serum to ask one person a list of questions. 2158 02:15:30,479 --> 02:15:31,799 Who would that person be? 2159 02:15:32,549 --> 02:15:38,939 John Greenewald: That's a great question. Wow, that's a tough 2160 02:15:38,939 --> 02:15:49,109 one. I, you you may have stumped me on being able to give you an 2161 02:15:49,109 --> 02:15:52,769 answer off the top of my head, because I'm not sure. There. 2162 02:15:52,799 --> 02:15:56,429 There are quite a few officials in the past that I would that I 2163 02:15:56,429 --> 02:16:02,279 would love to sit down and ask them a question. But who that 2164 02:16:02,279 --> 02:16:06,719 would be more than anyone else? I'm not. I'm not sure. To be 2165 02:16:06,719 --> 02:16:12,689 honest with you. That's a great a great question. And I'm gonna 2166 02:16:12,689 --> 02:16:18,659 write it down. And I'm gonna, I'm going to have to revisit 2167 02:16:18,659 --> 02:16:22,499 that in the future. Do you mind? That sounds great. Thanks for 2168 02:16:22,499 --> 02:16:25,919 your candor. And keep up the great work. Now. I feel bad that 2169 02:16:25,919 --> 02:16:30,059 I haven't. And thank you. I feel really bad that I don't have a 2170 02:16:30,059 --> 02:16:33,329 better answer for you. But man, great, fantastic question out of 2171 02:16:33,329 --> 02:16:37,349 every live question show live show. I've done one of the one 2172 02:16:37,349 --> 02:16:42,149 of one of the stumpers, I would say, let me grab this caller. 2173 02:16:42,779 --> 02:16:47,639 Who's this? Hi, john, this is Nathan from San Antonio, Texas. 2174 02:16:47,639 --> 02:16:50,639 How are you? Hey, Nathan, I'm good. Thank you. What can I do 2175 02:16:50,639 --> 02:16:51,059 for you? 2176 02:16:51,780 --> 02:16:54,660 Unknown: Well, I've got just a couple of thoughts. I wanted to 2177 02:16:54,660 --> 02:17:00,480 get your opinion on. What is your thoughts on the government 2178 02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:05,100 saying that these crafts are not some super secret program we 2179 02:17:05,100 --> 02:17:09,270 had? And the other one, the other question is, 2180 02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:14,640 assuming that disclosure does happen, who is the guy you want 2181 02:17:14,640 --> 02:17:17,250 to see on the podium making that announcement? 2182 02:17:19,380 --> 02:17:23,130 John Greenewald: Well, the first part of the question in regards 2183 02:17:23,130 --> 02:17:27,900 to the military denying that it's a, you know, top secret 2184 02:17:27,900 --> 02:17:32,070 program, who's to say they're not lying? Now, that's not me 2185 02:17:32,070 --> 02:17:35,910 trying to debunk any of this, but rather that is a potential, 2186 02:17:36,330 --> 02:17:39,270 because history shows us they will lie area 51 is a prime 2187 02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:42,480 example. Right? The F 117 is a prime example, the B two stealth 2188 02:17:42,480 --> 02:17:46,020 bomber is a prime example, that they will dodge or create a 2189 02:17:46,020 --> 02:17:51,330 narrative that is not true about programs that they have. So by 2190 02:17:51,330 --> 02:17:55,320 them saying no, this isn't us, we don't know, is potentially a 2191 02:17:55,320 --> 02:17:59,790 strategic move, you know, and potentially a way for them to 2192 02:18:00,330 --> 02:18:05,100 get the eyeballs off of them and put somewhere else do I think 2193 02:18:05,100 --> 02:18:09,060 that that's my top theory, not necessarily. But also, that is 2194 02:18:09,060 --> 02:18:12,210 something that I that I can't rule out, you know, that that 2195 02:18:12,210 --> 02:18:16,260 they would potentially lie about this being top secret or 2196 02:18:16,260 --> 02:18:19,590 classified technology that they don't want to admit to because 2197 02:18:19,590 --> 02:18:23,160 again, strategically, it's it's a it's a brilliant move, you 2198 02:18:23,160 --> 02:18:26,580 know, because then that makes all the world superpowers that 2199 02:18:26,580 --> 02:18:30,750 are watching us, and and seeing what technology that we have, if 2200 02:18:30,750 --> 02:18:34,260 it truly is ours. And then we put it out there that we have no 2201 02:18:34,260 --> 02:18:39,090 idea what this is, it creates confusion and creates a seed of 2202 02:18:39,090 --> 02:18:42,720 doubt in these world superpowers. So we have to keep 2203 02:18:42,720 --> 02:18:45,450 in mind that counter intelligence plays a role in 2204 02:18:45,450 --> 02:18:48,900 this, whether we like it or not. And that counter intelligence 2205 02:18:48,900 --> 02:18:53,250 aspect to this is something that we can't discount. And history 2206 02:18:53,250 --> 02:18:57,480 shows us that they will absolutely mislead, if it serves 2207 02:18:57,480 --> 02:19:00,450 them a benefit. So that's what we have to take into 2208 02:19:00,450 --> 02:19:04,410 consideration until we can rule it out. And in my personal 2209 02:19:04,410 --> 02:19:08,460 opinion, we can't rule that out. The second part of your 2210 02:19:08,460 --> 02:19:11,460 question, Who would I want at the podium? You know, I don't 2211 02:19:11,460 --> 02:19:15,630 really know who the best person would be. I'd like to see the 2212 02:19:15,630 --> 02:19:20,040 scientific community confirm this outside of a government 2213 02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:25,170 head, simply because it's just that it'll be a government head 2214 02:19:25,170 --> 02:19:28,530 and who can trust the government on anything in relation to this 2215 02:19:28,530 --> 02:19:31,680 issue? But then I'd play devil's advocate with myself and say 2216 02:19:31,680 --> 02:19:34,440 that, yeah, the leader of the free world, giving that White 2217 02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:38,430 House lawn, you know, announcement to the world would 2218 02:19:38,430 --> 02:19:41,310 be fantastic, too. So I think that there's there's things to 2219 02:19:41,310 --> 02:19:46,830 be said, in in both methods, I should say. But I do want to see 2220 02:19:46,830 --> 02:19:51,060 those of science have a scientific background, disclose 2221 02:19:51,060 --> 02:19:55,680 to us the reality of whatever it is they're disclosing and ensure 2222 02:19:55,680 --> 02:19:59,490 if, if it's that the government has some kind of interaction or 2223 02:19:59,490 --> 02:20:02,880 communication And then sure, but I'd like to see somebody of of 2224 02:20:02,880 --> 02:20:06,780 note, like a sitting president, give that address. And if it's 2225 02:20:06,780 --> 02:20:10,830 rather a discovery, then then I would really hope that 2226 02:20:10,830 --> 02:20:13,440 scientific, the scientific community would band together 2227 02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:16,500 and create maybe even a joint press conference to really say, 2228 02:20:16,500 --> 02:20:19,560 Okay, look, you know, after years of study, or after this 2229 02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:23,280 discovery, or whatever, this is what we have. So I don't think 2230 02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:25,650 that that really answered your question, but at least kind of 2231 02:20:25,650 --> 02:20:27,150 threw out a couple possibilities. 2232 02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:33,630 Unknown: What about the when it comes to the secret technology, 2233 02:20:33,630 --> 02:20:39,060 you know, that suddenly we have to have a spaceforce. And I'm 2234 02:20:39,060 --> 02:20:42,090 just wondering if we're building up to some sort of revelation 2235 02:20:42,090 --> 02:20:45,930 of, of new technologies that we've been keeping secret for so 2236 02:20:45,930 --> 02:20:48,900 long, like, just like they did with the stealth fighter, you 2237 02:20:48,900 --> 02:20:51,960 know, years ago? Well, 2238 02:20:52,950 --> 02:20:55,620 John Greenewald: I will say, in regards to the space force, 2239 02:20:55,620 --> 02:20:58,470 there's nothing new about that. I mean, we've had a Space 2240 02:20:58,470 --> 02:21:01,170 Command for many, many years, essentially, they, in my 2241 02:21:01,170 --> 02:21:04,350 opinion, they changed the name, and made it a little bit more 2242 02:21:04,350 --> 02:21:07,950 grandiose, but but the root of it, it roots into, you know, the 2243 02:21:07,950 --> 02:21:11,070 Space Command, which was part of the United States Air Force, and 2244 02:21:11,070 --> 02:21:13,740 essentially, that they've been in operation for many, many 2245 02:21:13,740 --> 02:21:17,520 years, decades, even. Essentially, which is, which is 2246 02:21:17,520 --> 02:21:20,850 the space force. So the space force, in my opinion, Space 2247 02:21:20,850 --> 02:21:23,700 Command 2.0. And I think that there was a little bit of 2248 02:21:23,700 --> 02:21:26,580 politics in this, you know, I think that Donald Trump, whether 2249 02:21:26,580 --> 02:21:29,640 you hate him, or like him, this isn't politically motivated 2250 02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:34,290 here. But rather, he wanted just to be that guy that created the 2251 02:21:34,290 --> 02:21:37,380 space force, you know, and I think that there was a little 2252 02:21:37,380 --> 02:21:42,480 bit of politics on his end, to do that, and to change the 2253 02:21:42,480 --> 02:21:46,590 landscape of the United States military. So at its core, I 2254 02:21:46,590 --> 02:21:51,390 don't believe that it changed that much. But the aura around 2255 02:21:51,390 --> 02:21:54,960 the dead, the landscape of the dead by creating another branch 2256 02:21:55,260 --> 02:21:57,360 of the United States military. So I think that there was a 2257 02:21:57,360 --> 02:22:00,900 little bit of politics in there as well. Is it connected to the 2258 02:22:00,900 --> 02:22:04,170 UAP phenomenon and talk about it, and, and so on, and so 2259 02:22:04,170 --> 02:22:07,980 forth? I personally don't think so I think it's probably more 2260 02:22:07,980 --> 02:22:12,060 coincidental than anything. And again, I think in the eyes of 2261 02:22:12,060 --> 02:22:15,360 the government, they will want to keep the UAP phenomena 2262 02:22:15,390 --> 02:22:19,830 drastically far apart from the space force, because if they 2263 02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:23,370 start combining that and saying that this phenomena, whatever it 2264 02:22:23,370 --> 02:22:27,330 is, is flying in space, and even though there may be evidence to 2265 02:22:27,330 --> 02:22:30,360 support that, with NASA live streams and photographs from 2266 02:22:30,510 --> 02:22:32,880 even going back to Apollo missions and stuff like that, 2267 02:22:33,210 --> 02:22:38,040 the the reality, if they were to join those two things, would be 2268 02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:41,700 incredibly problematic for them. And so that's why I think that 2269 02:22:41,850 --> 02:22:45,510 they'll probably try and keep it very far apart. And again, in my 2270 02:22:45,510 --> 02:22:49,770 opinion, that's not connected, just more coincidental. Gotcha. 2271 02:22:50,370 --> 02:22:52,860 JOHN, it's been an honor to speak with you. Appreciate it. 2272 02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:55,230 Thank you for great work. I appreciate that. Thank you so 2273 02:22:55,230 --> 02:22:58,800 much call anytime. Thanks for for watching the channel. Go 2274 02:22:58,800 --> 02:23:01,260 ahead and bounce that. Let me do a couple more. And then I am 2275 02:23:01,260 --> 02:23:05,130 going to have to end this guys. I hate to do it. But what time 2276 02:23:05,130 --> 02:23:08,970 did I start at 930? Wow, two and a half hours. That's awesome. 2277 02:23:09,960 --> 02:23:15,870 Let me see. More. Greer. Greer's have another one. I think we 2278 02:23:15,870 --> 02:23:19,530 touched on Greer enough, though. Hey there, Nate, longtime 2279 02:23:19,530 --> 02:23:22,380 listener first time question, what is the status of your voice 2280 02:23:22,410 --> 02:23:28,500 attempts to uncover the money trail? From the sap Hawk and srg 2281 02:23:28,500 --> 02:23:31,410 to the defense contractor, supposedly gatekeeping, the 2282 02:23:31,410 --> 02:23:33,480 crashed off world tech? 2283 02:23:36,030 --> 02:23:38,820 Have you looked into the defense tech and logistics organization 2284 02:23:38,820 --> 02:23:41,730 mentioned in the Tom Wilson Eric Davis notes? If so, what's the 2285 02:23:41,730 --> 02:23:47,730 status? Okay, in regards to the crashed off world technology, 2286 02:23:48,210 --> 02:23:53,040 those are very big claims that are really not grounded in 2287 02:23:53,640 --> 02:23:58,860 anything verifiable. So going after information on that really 2288 02:23:58,860 --> 02:24:03,960 did stem from the original New York Times article that talked 2289 02:24:03,960 --> 02:24:07,320 about specially designed buildings at Bigelow Aerospace. 2290 02:24:07,650 --> 02:24:11,190 Now I bring that up, because that truly was a very under 2291 02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:15,090 appreciated element to that story. Because that's a big 2292 02:24:15,090 --> 02:24:19,290 claim to make, that they have pieces of something from these 2293 02:24:19,320 --> 02:24:22,230 the from this phenomenon, and warehousing it in special 2294 02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:26,760 buildings. And I pushed on that point for a long time. And it 2295 02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:30,720 ultimately concluded with Robert Bigelow coming forward and 2296 02:24:30,720 --> 02:24:33,600 saying he never got anything, right. That just came out 2297 02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:36,930 earlier this year. I think it was that he never got anything. 2298 02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:40,080 So that element to the New York Times story I'll be it was maybe 2299 02:24:40,080 --> 02:24:42,840 rooted in some building modifications that Robert 2300 02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:47,400 Bigelow did. There was nothing there. And and Robert Bigelow 2301 02:24:47,400 --> 02:24:50,130 said that there was nothing there. Now is he lying in the 2302 02:24:50,130 --> 02:24:53,130 interest of national security? Sure, maybe if somebody wants to 2303 02:24:53,130 --> 02:24:56,670 make that claim, but to a point we have to understand that some 2304 02:24:56,670 --> 02:25:00,330 people are honest sometimes and that if he's actually saying 2305 02:25:00,330 --> 02:25:03,210 that there was nothing there. Maybe there wasn't. And I know 2306 02:25:03,210 --> 02:25:05,970 that there was a claim. And if you guys haven't listened to 2307 02:25:05,970 --> 02:25:09,810 the, to the train wreck of an interview I did with Anthony 2308 02:25:09,810 --> 02:25:14,460 brigalow Anthony magalia, in his claim that all SAP had captured 2309 02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:19,530 UAP pieces of debris and he got the reports or whatever. It was 2310 02:25:19,530 --> 02:25:23,760 a train wreck of an interview. But stories like that don't help 2311 02:25:23,820 --> 02:25:27,150 that narrative, just simply because Robert Bigelow said 2312 02:25:27,150 --> 02:25:29,520 nothing was there a doctor put off said that they never got 2313 02:25:29,520 --> 02:25:34,890 anything, nor did those reports deal with UAP offworld tech. So 2314 02:25:34,890 --> 02:25:40,650 that entire element to the 2017 story, essentially is a nothing 2315 02:25:40,650 --> 02:25:44,160 burger, right? There's nothing there. Is there offworld vehicle 2316 02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:48,990 technology away from that, potentially, but to go through 2317 02:25:48,990 --> 02:25:52,590 FOIA to get that is now a challenge. Because when you 2318 02:25:52,590 --> 02:25:56,820 pursue it through, let's say, the offset program and what the 2319 02:25:56,820 --> 02:25:59,850 New York Times has reported, but they erroneously attributed it 2320 02:25:59,850 --> 02:26:04,230 to a tip. Regardless, you have something that you can cite as a 2321 02:26:04,230 --> 02:26:07,260 source, and go to the government under the FOIA and say, Okay, 2322 02:26:07,260 --> 02:26:12,030 look during 2008 to 2012, you guys did this program, New York 2323 02:26:12,030 --> 02:26:15,540 Times reports, there's, there's wreckage, so you can pursue 2324 02:26:15,540 --> 02:26:19,230 that. But now that entire thing has fallen apart. So that goes 2325 02:26:19,230 --> 02:26:22,230 away, right? There's no evidence to support that that was 2326 02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:25,410 actually real. So now what do you have, and you have 2327 02:26:25,440 --> 02:26:29,070 essentially a fishing expedition to try and find offworld 2328 02:26:29,070 --> 02:26:32,640 technology vehicles that have crashed without a date without a 2329 02:26:32,640 --> 02:26:36,570 time without a non anonymous source. You right? I mean, you 2330 02:26:36,570 --> 02:26:39,840 can't just say, a secret birdie told me that you guys have 2331 02:26:39,840 --> 02:26:44,640 anonymous or have anomalous wreckage that is located at 2332 02:26:44,640 --> 02:26:47,640 Wright Patterson Air Force Base. You can't do that through FOIA. 2333 02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:50,550 You need to say, Sergeant so and so has gone on the record with 2334 02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:55,590 Politico and said XYZ. That is a sizable source. You can't do 2335 02:26:55,590 --> 02:26:58,440 anonymous sources. When it comes to FOIA. It just doesn't work. 2336 02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:02,220 You can try and sometimes you'll get lucky. Absolutely. But for 2337 02:27:02,220 --> 02:27:05,910 the most part, you can't say it's based on a secret birdie. 2338 02:27:06,300 --> 02:27:09,030 So the back to your question, it's a tough one to really 2339 02:27:09,030 --> 02:27:12,540 pursue, just because it really is a fishing expedition. And 2340 02:27:12,540 --> 02:27:16,860 there's nothing at this point, concrete going back to way 2341 02:27:16,860 --> 02:27:19,890 earlier in the show, when we were talking about the how put 2342 02:27:19,890 --> 02:27:24,090 off comments on the ni E, which was talking about crashed UFOs. 2343 02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:28,890 that's never been substantiated as a real document, let alone a 2344 02:27:28,890 --> 02:27:32,730 real story. So again, when you drill into a lot of aspects of 2345 02:27:32,730 --> 02:27:36,240 those types of claims, it falls apart. I'm not saying that it's 2346 02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:40,020 all 100% fraudulent, but rather from a research angle, it's 2347 02:27:40,020 --> 02:27:45,840 nearly impossible to try and do anything with. So Nate, thank 2348 02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:48,780 you for that question. This may be one of the last callers let 2349 02:27:48,780 --> 02:27:53,760 me go on to the phones. Who's this? Yes. Hi, this is Lee 2350 02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:56,550 Martinez from El Paso, Texas. How are you? Hey, Lee, I'm good. 2351 02:27:56,550 --> 02:27:57,420 Thank you. How are you? 2352 02:27:58,410 --> 02:28:01,080 Unknown: Doing good doing good. JOHN, thank you really quick for 2353 02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:03,570 everything you do. And I just had a really simple question, 2354 02:28:03,570 --> 02:28:08,040 man. I don't know if you're familiar with Sam Harris. Yeah. 2355 02:28:08,700 --> 02:28:10,500 John Greenewald: Yeah. We talked about him a little bit earlier 2356 02:28:10,500 --> 02:28:14,670 in the show. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Cool. Then I can probably just 2357 02:28:14,670 --> 02:28:18,420 replay it on YouTube. I just got on the show late. That's okay. 2358 02:28:19,500 --> 02:28:21,420 Unknown: Yeah, my question was in regards to somebody 2359 02:28:21,420 --> 02:28:24,570 contacting him. And, you know, I've been a massive Sam Harris 2360 02:28:24,570 --> 02:28:27,210 fan for years. And he just wouldn't say that. So I just 2361 02:28:27,210 --> 02:28:29,670 think that has that carries a lot of weight. And I was like, 2362 02:28:29,670 --> 02:28:31,890 What? Something must be going on then. 2363 02:28:32,220 --> 02:28:35,520 John Greenewald: Yeah, you know, it's the short of it to kind of 2364 02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:39,690 nutshell version it from prior to the show his claims like that 2365 02:28:39,690 --> 02:28:41,850 even somebody with a huge following. I know, he's very 2366 02:28:41,850 --> 02:28:45,660 well known. I don't know much about him. But yes, sir. I'm 2367 02:28:45,690 --> 02:28:48,930 eager to see a little bit more proof of that. I would think 2368 02:28:48,930 --> 02:28:53,010 that if they really did ask him to play a role in a process like 2369 02:28:53,010 --> 02:28:55,950 that, that that in itself would come along with a nondisclosure 2370 02:28:55,950 --> 02:28:58,710 agreement, or something like that, that he couldn't talk 2371 02:28:58,710 --> 02:29:01,650 about it until after it was all said and done. So I'm not saying 2372 02:29:01,650 --> 02:29:04,890 that, that he's lying. I'm just eager to more see proof of what 2373 02:29:04,890 --> 02:29:09,090 he's saying. actually come to fruition. And that's okay, 2374 02:29:09,090 --> 02:29:11,850 question mark. So I'm open to it. I just kind of have my 2375 02:29:11,850 --> 02:29:13,200 doubts on claims like that. 2376 02:29:14,190 --> 02:29:16,470 Unknown: Oh, no, no, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And thank you for 2377 02:29:16,470 --> 02:29:19,410 giving me the the TLDR of in, like I said, Man, that it was 2378 02:29:19,410 --> 02:29:21,090 just interesting, because he doesn't touch anything 2379 02:29:21,090 --> 02:29:24,120 paranormal. So it just kind of struck me as profound. Thank you 2380 02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:26,580 for everything you do, man. And thank you for fighting for the 2381 02:29:26,580 --> 02:29:29,580 truth. And, you know, keep watching and thank you so much. 2382 02:29:29,610 --> 02:29:31,140 John Greenewald: Thank you. I appreciate it. And thanks for 2383 02:29:31,140 --> 02:29:34,290 using the phrase TLDR Not a lot of people use that. And so I see 2384 02:29:34,290 --> 02:29:37,200 it online all the time. But never unspoken words, so very 2385 02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:40,590 cool. You take care of Yeah, no, man. Thank you so much, man. 2386 02:29:40,590 --> 02:29:43,170 Keep fighting and I love your website. Thank you. I appreciate 2387 02:29:43,170 --> 02:29:46,650 it. Thank you. All right. Let's see a couple more a couple more. 2388 02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:49,260 What are the ramifications if any of the Pentagon could face 2389 02:29:49,260 --> 02:29:51,960 for destroying Luis Elizondo his emails? Personally, I don't 2390 02:29:51,960 --> 02:29:56,070 think they did. You're absolutely right. With the 2391 02:29:56,070 --> 02:30:01,230 question on, you don't think that they did. I don't think so 2392 02:30:01,230 --> 02:30:05,430 either. Now, there are ways that I am attempting to access the 2393 02:30:05,430 --> 02:30:09,930 emails in a different way around about way I hinted at it in my 2394 02:30:09,930 --> 02:30:13,140 article, I'll talk about it a little bit more in brief by 2395 02:30:13,140 --> 02:30:16,440 saying that even though they destroyed the mailbox and the 2396 02:30:16,470 --> 02:30:19,200 emails and the attachments and the calendars and the chat 2397 02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:23,820 transcripts of Luis Elizondo, and I have that in writing, the 2398 02:30:23,850 --> 02:30:27,240 opposite end people he was communicating with may 2399 02:30:27,570 --> 02:30:30,960 potentially not be destroyed. So prior to publishing that 2400 02:30:30,960 --> 02:30:34,230 article, I set in motion numerous Freedom of Information 2401 02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:38,130 Act requests, seeking out Luis Elizondo his emails and who he 2402 02:30:38,130 --> 02:30:41,550 would most likely communicate with. And it was a roundabout 2403 02:30:41,550 --> 02:30:46,770 way to get access to emails that would pertain to the questions 2404 02:30:46,770 --> 02:30:50,670 that I'm trying to answer, essentially a tip UFOs uaps, 2405 02:30:50,670 --> 02:30:53,700 what was he doing so on and so forth. So I had set that in 2406 02:30:53,700 --> 02:30:58,530 motion prior to ever coming public with this story. And I 2407 02:30:58,530 --> 02:31:02,400 know for a fact the Pentagon caught on to what I was doing. I 2408 02:31:02,400 --> 02:31:05,310 know they've mentioned it to me, and they're processing those 2409 02:31:05,310 --> 02:31:09,510 requests. So what will transpire from that, I really don't know, 2410 02:31:09,780 --> 02:31:14,130 other than I set in motion those cases, in hopes to still 2411 02:31:14,130 --> 02:31:17,670 discover his emails. But as I said, in my article, that is 2412 02:31:17,670 --> 02:31:21,090 definitely a story for another day. Let me hit another phone 2413 02:31:21,090 --> 02:31:25,200 call here before I end it. Who's this? Hi, john, how are you? 2414 02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:29,460 This is Andy from New York. Hey, I'm good. Thank you. Thank you 2415 02:31:29,460 --> 02:31:31,560 so much for calling. I'm sorry, if you were on hold for a while. 2416 02:31:31,710 --> 02:31:32,550 What can I do for you? 2417 02:31:33,600 --> 02:31:35,790 Unknown: It's quite a ride. much appreciate everything you do is 2418 02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:40,290 really wonderful and fantastic. Thank you. My question. Yeah, my 2419 02:31:40,290 --> 02:31:44,670 question has to do with the Navy's UFO patents because it 2420 02:31:44,910 --> 02:31:48,540 can suggest a couple of things either it's it's been us tech 2421 02:31:48,540 --> 02:31:53,220 all along with UFOs as a cover for that. Maybe it's reverse 2422 02:31:53,220 --> 02:31:57,720 engineered UFOs and, and the points in that direction and 2423 02:31:57,720 --> 02:32:00,450 possibly a mix of the boat. So just generally speaking your 2424 02:32:00,480 --> 02:32:02,730 your thoughts on the USL patent from the Navy. 2425 02:32:03,330 --> 02:32:04,950 John Greenewald: I think that they're really interesting. I 2426 02:32:04,950 --> 02:32:08,190 think the patent office, even away from those some of those 2427 02:32:08,190 --> 02:32:12,390 Navy patents hold some extraordinary, you know, 2428 02:32:12,420 --> 02:32:15,960 patents, essentially technology that people have conjured up. 2429 02:32:16,590 --> 02:32:19,470 When it comes to those patents, I would definitely say that 2430 02:32:19,470 --> 02:32:22,950 Brett Tingley investigative journalist is definitely the pro 2431 02:32:22,950 --> 02:32:26,130 he has dug in deep on those things, written quite a few 2432 02:32:26,130 --> 02:32:28,950 articles for the drive. So I would recommend that you look at 2433 02:32:28,950 --> 02:32:33,030 those my personal opinion is, I'm not really sure other than I 2434 02:32:33,060 --> 02:32:36,360 think that they're, that they're classified pieces, or I'm sorry, 2435 02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:39,270 that they're pieces of technology potentially leading 2436 02:32:39,270 --> 02:32:42,510 into classified programs, if they can get some of that stuff 2437 02:32:42,510 --> 02:32:46,050 to work. But in regards to back engineering and stuff like that, 2438 02:32:46,230 --> 02:32:49,770 I would imagine that stuff like that wouldn't be patented. So 2439 02:32:49,770 --> 02:32:52,530 anything connected to any type of reverse engineering, let's 2440 02:32:52,530 --> 02:32:55,590 say if they did capture an offworld vehicle or, or 2441 02:32:55,590 --> 02:32:58,650 something from an offworld vehicle, and they were trying to 2442 02:32:59,070 --> 02:33:02,130 essentially reverse engineer at or back engineer it, that they 2443 02:33:02,130 --> 02:33:05,520 wouldn't create a patent and file it, you know that i think 2444 02:33:05,520 --> 02:33:10,770 that that stuff like that would be so kept near the vest within 2445 02:33:10,770 --> 02:33:16,500 the classified world, it would never ever be found within a 2446 02:33:16,500 --> 02:33:19,440 patent office or patent database. Because for those that 2447 02:33:19,440 --> 02:33:22,200 don't know, you can go on and download these patents, you 2448 02:33:22,200 --> 02:33:25,500 know, and everybody has access to them. So I think that if 2449 02:33:25,500 --> 02:33:29,520 there was any type of shroud of secrecy whatsoever that 2450 02:33:29,520 --> 02:33:32,340 surrounded them, that we wouldn't find them there. 2451 02:33:33,180 --> 02:33:35,790 Unknown: Right now, to that point, could it be possible that 2452 02:33:35,790 --> 02:33:39,030 those patents were filed so to speak in order to muddy the 2453 02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:40,500 waters on the UFO issue? 2454 02:33:42,420 --> 02:33:46,380 John Greenewald: It's I don't see that again, I think that the 2455 02:33:46,380 --> 02:33:51,930 general public muddies the UFO issue darn well on its own, that 2456 02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:55,830 I don't think that the military has to do that. Because I don't 2457 02:33:55,830 --> 02:34:00,120 see a motive. I don't see what they would gain from doing 2458 02:34:00,120 --> 02:34:03,360 something like that. I think that what they would want to do 2459 02:34:03,360 --> 02:34:06,900 is essentially, again, not to repeat myself, but if it was 2460 02:34:06,930 --> 02:34:09,720 either a back engineering thing, or, or whatever, they would 2461 02:34:09,720 --> 02:34:13,650 shield that, if they wanted to muddy the waters, I don't think 2462 02:34:13,650 --> 02:34:16,050 that they would do it with patents. Again, I think the 2463 02:34:16,050 --> 02:34:19,860 general public is very good at doing that on its own. And I 2464 02:34:19,860 --> 02:34:23,010 think that I'm not insinuating that Jeremy korbel, or George 2465 02:34:23,010 --> 02:34:26,880 Knapp or victim to this, but essentially leak something, you 2466 02:34:26,880 --> 02:34:29,580 know, leak something to an outfit that will give it 2467 02:34:29,580 --> 02:34:34,140 publicity and mislead or muddy the waters that way. But rather 2468 02:34:34,140 --> 02:34:37,650 filing official patents and going through that, to me, that 2469 02:34:37,650 --> 02:34:41,340 would just be too much effort for that. I mean, keep in mind 2470 02:34:41,340 --> 02:34:45,840 that the counterintelligence world, the less footprint you 2471 02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:50,490 have, the better meaning the least amount of work that they 2472 02:34:50,490 --> 02:34:55,140 can do with the most amount of effect that they can accomplish, 2473 02:34:55,170 --> 02:34:58,800 I feel would be better. And so for them to just say Okay, look, 2474 02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:01,680 let's let's leak this out. information out there. Let's put 2475 02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:04,530 that out there, General, and then the wipe their hands clean 2476 02:35:04,530 --> 02:35:07,500 of it, and the general public does the rest. And so again, 2477 02:35:07,500 --> 02:35:10,410 from a CI perspective, and again, this is just an opinion. 2478 02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:14,640 But from a CI inspector perspective, that would be gold, 2479 02:35:14,670 --> 02:35:17,280 because then their footprint is very small. All they did was 2480 02:35:17,280 --> 02:35:20,400 throw that stuff into the wind, and let the general public do 2481 02:35:20,400 --> 02:35:24,570 the rest. With filing patents and doing stuff like that, then 2482 02:35:24,570 --> 02:35:28,950 you create paper trails, you create a lot more evidence. I'm 2483 02:35:28,950 --> 02:35:32,190 surprised that that Salvador and I think it's pronounced pace, 2484 02:35:32,310 --> 02:35:36,420 Salvador pace as something Yeah, is even real. I mean, the drive 2485 02:35:36,420 --> 02:35:40,560 like tracked him down and talk to him. And kudos to them, I 2486 02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:43,230 literally would have bet money that that dude was a ghost and 2487 02:35:43,230 --> 02:35:47,460 didn't exist. And yet, there he is. So, you know, kudos to them. 2488 02:35:47,460 --> 02:35:49,650 That's why they're investigative journalists and I just run a 2489 02:35:49,650 --> 02:35:54,060 YouTube channel. But regardless, you know, I'm, I feel that 2490 02:35:54,060 --> 02:35:57,030 there's too much of a paper trail with that, that if if they 2491 02:35:57,030 --> 02:36:00,000 wanted to muddy the waters, there were much easier ways to 2492 02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:00,330 do it. 2493 02:36:01,470 --> 02:36:03,540 Unknown: very fair point. Let me leave you with this. And thank 2494 02:36:03,540 --> 02:36:06,870 you, again, for taking my call. Sure. The most compelling video 2495 02:36:06,870 --> 02:36:10,770 or image of a UFO that you've seen from, from your 2496 02:36:10,770 --> 02:36:12,240 perspective? And thank you again, 2497 02:36:12,990 --> 02:36:15,930 John Greenewald: thank you, I do appreciate, do appreciate the 2498 02:36:15,930 --> 02:36:19,290 call. So great question. What do I figure is that what's 2499 02:36:19,290 --> 02:36:22,170 compelling, and that's a really, that's a really tough one for 2500 02:36:22,170 --> 02:36:24,690 me. I mean, there's there's obviously cases in history that 2501 02:36:24,690 --> 02:36:29,340 I like, and I'm intrigued by but but actually, it's less videos 2502 02:36:29,340 --> 02:36:32,250 and photos and more documentation. You know, because 2503 02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:36,810 photos and videos are so easily faked, especially nowadays. What 2504 02:36:36,810 --> 02:36:41,700 I truly like, is the hardcore documentation. And, of course, 2505 02:36:41,700 --> 02:36:45,570 it's not as fun and visually stimulating, reading a document 2506 02:36:45,570 --> 02:36:49,530 versus actually seeing a video. But I truly mean this, I find 2507 02:36:49,530 --> 02:36:54,750 more value in that than I do a photo or video simply because of 2508 02:36:54,750 --> 02:36:58,230 the debunk keable nature of almost anything you put forward. 2509 02:36:58,650 --> 02:37:01,980 Case in point the last few years, you know, and you look at 2510 02:37:01,980 --> 02:37:05,970 the FLIR gimbal, go fast, the sphere, the acorn, whatever, 2511 02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:09,570 whatever nicknames are out there. You look at how those are 2512 02:37:09,570 --> 02:37:14,040 so easily attacked, and potentially even debunked. It 2513 02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:17,730 makes visual imagery very challenging to really get behind 2514 02:37:17,730 --> 02:37:21,900 and go, man, you guys got to look at this one. That's why I 2515 02:37:21,900 --> 02:37:25,050 love documentation. Because there's more information you can 2516 02:37:25,050 --> 02:37:28,470 vet, there's more information you can read. And if I had to 2517 02:37:28,470 --> 02:37:33,120 pick one, my personal favorite, or one of the favorites is the 2518 02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:36,210 1976 arann. incident. I've talked about it on this channel 2519 02:37:36,210 --> 02:37:40,890 before. But to answer your question, definitely the 1976 2520 02:37:40,890 --> 02:37:46,290 arann incident because that is the case and the four pages of 2521 02:37:46,800 --> 02:37:52,500 an intelligence report. that kept me going 25 years after it 2522 02:37:52,500 --> 02:37:54,720 was sent to me. I didn't discover it. It was been been 2523 02:37:54,720 --> 02:37:57,840 around for many years. In fact, I think it was released before I 2524 02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:01,650 was even alive. But that document when I first received 2525 02:38:01,650 --> 02:38:06,600 it from the Defense Intelligence Agency, outline such a story 2526 02:38:06,630 --> 02:38:10,950 that was so amazing to me, I haven't let go since and so 2527 02:38:12,030 --> 02:38:14,790 either email me john at the black vault calm or just search 2528 02:38:14,790 --> 02:38:18,270 the black vault comm for 1976 around incident, you'll come up 2529 02:38:18,270 --> 02:38:21,450 with that document, I encourage you all to read it. Alright, so 2530 02:38:21,450 --> 02:38:24,090 here's the deal, I have to go, I'm sorry to say, 2531 02:38:25,350 --> 02:38:27,690 I can't believe through the course of last two and a half 2532 02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:31,470 hours, it looks like by my viewing anyway, if these YouTube 2533 02:38:31,470 --> 02:38:35,490 stats are correct, about 4000 of you have come through this room, 2534 02:38:35,610 --> 02:38:40,350 hundreds of you still watching shy of 400. still with me, I 2535 02:38:40,350 --> 02:38:43,740 know some people can't stay for the two and a half hours. You 2536 02:38:43,740 --> 02:38:47,790 know, and I don't blame you. But regardless, so encouraging and 2537 02:38:47,790 --> 02:38:51,720 motivating for me, all of your support those that through your 2538 02:38:51,720 --> 02:38:56,670 super chat support at me, thank you so much. I hope you see the 2539 02:38:56,670 --> 02:39:02,250 value in that it goes right back into this channel. But also the 2540 02:39:02,280 --> 02:39:07,290 Patreon supporters, both the present the past, and also if 2541 02:39:07,290 --> 02:39:12,060 you consider it 100% of that all goes back into the website. I 2542 02:39:12,060 --> 02:39:15,480 don't pocket anything, I don't take my family out to dinner. It 2543 02:39:15,480 --> 02:39:19,800 just gets invested right back into either purchasing server 2544 02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:22,500 space or stuff like that. I have a couple dedicated servers. 2545 02:39:22,500 --> 02:39:25,470 That's why it becomes expensive. And there are literally 2546 02:39:25,470 --> 02:39:30,150 terabytes worth of data. Throughout the 2.4 million pages 2547 02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:34,380 of documents that are available to all of you for free. I don't 2548 02:39:34,380 --> 02:39:37,830 charge anything for it as most of you should know, everything 2549 02:39:37,830 --> 02:39:42,240 is free. But if you do decide to sign up on Patreon, the link is 2550 02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:45,210 below here on YouTube. Or you can just go to the black 2551 02:39:45,210 --> 02:39:48,540 vault.com and you can see the link on the right hand side. 2552 02:39:48,780 --> 02:39:51,780 Also you will see the shop some of you asked about the book 2553 02:39:51,810 --> 02:39:55,560 earlier or t shirts. This book is available to you so if you 2554 02:39:55,560 --> 02:39:59,700 guys dig UFOs just go to the shop link. I know Amazon's got a 2555 02:39:59,700 --> 02:40:04,860 great To price on it right now. So please consider that it 2556 02:40:04,860 --> 02:40:07,860 really does truly support the site. And 100% of the proceeds 2557 02:40:07,860 --> 02:40:12,570 goes to that. There are tons of chat messages that have gone 2558 02:40:12,570 --> 02:40:16,140 through and admittedly could not get to them tons of text 2559 02:40:16,140 --> 02:40:19,320 messages that I couldn't get to. And I want you all to know how 2560 02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:23,880 appreciative I am. And I will not forget these. I will do this 2561 02:40:23,880 --> 02:40:26,850 again and address these. I'll address these first before I 2562 02:40:26,850 --> 02:40:30,720 open up the lines, because I know most of you, you know, 2563 02:40:30,750 --> 02:40:33,660 probably didn't get your your question answered. And I'm here 2564 02:40:33,660 --> 02:40:37,440 to do that. So thank you all again, please give this video a 2565 02:40:37,440 --> 02:40:40,830 thumbs up. Please like, share, subscribe to the channel. If 2566 02:40:40,830 --> 02:40:43,440 you're listening on the podcast. I'll make this a podcast version 2567 02:40:43,440 --> 02:40:47,010 for those who want to listen to it as well. Please give a review 2568 02:40:47,010 --> 02:40:51,510 whether you listen on iTunes or Spotify or whatever your podcast 2569 02:40:51,510 --> 02:40:56,190 aggregator is, I shoot for five stars. That's what I'm hoping 2570 02:40:56,730 --> 02:41:00,360 that I achieved for you guys. But most of all, thank you for 2571 02:41:00,360 --> 02:41:04,590 helping spread the word that is the biggest help to me more than 2572 02:41:04,590 --> 02:41:09,450 all else. So with that, thank you all enjoy your weekend. And 2573 02:41:09,450 --> 02:41:13,290 thank you for spending part of your Saturday with me right here 2574 02:41:13,320 --> 02:41:17,130 on the black vault. This is john Greenwald, Jr signing off and we 2575 02:41:17,130 --> 02:41:18,210 will see you next time.