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links to 2 patents for a Tic Tac type craft
May 25, 2020
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According to the following web page, the famous Tic Tac UFO (of "The Nimitz Encounters") is a patented device...

US Navy Disclosing Secret Space Program Technologies through Patents System
Michael Salla
July 13, 2019
https://exonews.org/us-navy-di.....ts-system/

You can download the PDF file for that patent for the craft itself for free at the following site...

https://patents.google.com/pat.....0144532B2/

"Craft using an inertial mass reduction device"

...and a similar patent that appears to be for the antigravity propulsion system is similarly available at either of these sites...

https://patents.google.com/pat.....10322827B2
https://patentimages.storage.g.....322827.pdf

"High frequency gravitational wave generator"

I don't know if any of this stuff actually works, but in general the descriptions in the patents of how antigravity is generated matches very well with what I've heard and read about Die Glocke and the TR-3B, which is pretty darned exciting. Even if it's not real, it's a very good fake job. For example, the following 2-hour video at about the halfway point describes a conjecture and obscure research about how high-speed counter-rotating plates can generate a magnetic vortex with very strange properties, especially that the vortex becomes isolated from external electromagnetic fields, with the result that the vortex seems no longer subject to the laws of physics that surrounds it. Therefore if you can make a cylindrical shield with this method, place people inside of that shield, and build a craft around it, then you might just have yourself a physics-defying UFO. Caveat: It takes a *lot* of electricity to do this. Per hearsay, engineers working on the project experienced severe vertigo and inability to sleep, probably from the extremely powerful electromagnetic waves that interfered with normal brain functions.

Project Camelot interviews Igor Witkowski : The Nazi Bell
AlphaZebra

A related video, much shorter, on the same topic...

Secrets of WW2 Episdoe 1 the Nazi BELL
Apr 3, 2013
sli ben

May 28, 2020
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I don't believe it. The military does not, for most part, discuss technologies we have.

I've read theories before on space travel and underwater travel, of creating a bubble for no drag. But it's almost unbelievable we or anyone possess that technology, if it could exist. 

Think of reports of underwater craft that goes back decades, esp back then there is no way humans could have that tech. 

And it would have to be unmanned, the type of force and radius turns would flatten a human.

May 27, 2020
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Interesting!

Seems strange though that the Navy should disclose their advanced technology in patents.

More info on the inventor Salvatore Pais: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.....atore_Pais

His patent applications on behalf of his employers have attracted international attention for their potential military and energy-producing applications, but also doubt about their feasibility, and speculation that they may be misinformation intended to mislead the United States' strategic adversaries about the direction of United States defense research.

May 27, 2020
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Jorgen said
Seems strange though that the Navy should disclose their advanced technology in patents.

More info on the inventor Salvatore Pais: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.....atore_Pais

His patent applications on behalf of his employers have attracted international attention for their potential military and energy-producing applications, but also doubt about their feasibility, and speculation that they may be misinformation intended to mislead the United States' strategic adversaries about the direction of United States defense research.

  

In my earlier post with a link to the TR-3B UFO patent, I referenced another article that made the same claim as the article I posted in this thread: that this is the US's way to give disclosure without doing so officially, especially since motivated by the new Cold War with China where the US wants to keep ahead of that race, even if it means disclosing some of this technology.

That Cold War claim sounds false to me, too, though: 5,784 US patents are classified...

https://slate.com/technology/2.....ublic.html

...so why wouldn't these UFO patents just be classified, as well? China never sees those patents anyway, nor the American public, so making them unclassified to win an invisible race doesn't make much sense to me.

However, that disclosure argument does make some sense to me. I think it was David Adair who this year said he expects full disclosure around November 2020, and if you listen to the YouTube videos of Linda Moulton Howe concerning UFO metamaterials, Roswell documents, and claims from witnesses about UFOs lifting cows to be mutilated via tractor beams, along with all the things that Emery Smith is (supposedly) disclosing, along with David Adair and Charles Hall, you'll definitely get the sense that some sort of UFO information revolution is suddenly happening this year. I'm blown away by everything I'm hearing. In the old days such interviewees would die in mysterious "accidents" real fast but now it's almost to the point that anybody could make an SPD UFO with the information that's already out there. I don't know what to make of all this, but I love science and technology, so I love hearing all these claims and being motivated to learn more about physics as I hear about solitons, magnetic vortices, isotopes, etc. (Oddly, I'm not very motivated to read the patents in detail, though, probably since it would take so much work to really understand them, and even if I did understand them, what could I do with that knowledge? It's not like I can afford a million dollar physics lab like Tony Stark to make an Iron Man suit or something.)

Linda Moulton Howe The Gifts From The Gods...Alien Metamaterials and the Terahertz Frequencies
Mar 10, 2020
Zohar StarGate TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....82QK-2uf7A

Another consequence of this UFO information explosion is that the Wikipedia pages that arrogantly claim that Die Glocke and the Roswell crash are just hoaxes are suddenly really looking ridiculous to me now in light of Howe's documents and the declassified FBI memo from Hotell...

"Die Glocke (hoax)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.....cke_(hoax)

 

In the 1990s, the US military published two reports disclosing the true nature of the crashed object: a nuclear test surveillance balloon from Project Mogul. Nevertheless, the Roswell incident continues to be of interest in popular media, and conspiracy theories surrounding the event persist. Roswell has been described as "the world's most famous, most exhaustively investigated, and most thoroughly debunked UFO claim".

Roswell UFO incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.....O_incident

"Thoroughly debunked" just because the military said so in 1947? Yeah, right.

As for the claim that the US is making these patents to throw off the foreign competition sounds really strange to me, maybe because it's hard to believe the US would make a fool out of its own patent office by tricking the PTO into publishing a lot of useless patents that eventually will be found to be ridiculously flawed, whereupon this new Cold War era will go down in history as another case where the US provably lied, this time to one its own departments. We all know the US lies to its own soldiers and employees, but such lies and waste via fraudulent patents that are permanent documentation is hard for me to believe, and there is no precedent for deceiving the PTO, to my knowledge.

Again, I don't know what to make of all this, but I love hearing all this interesting science and border science stuff. I was sort of hoping to get in a deep discussion in these forums about ZPE, antigravity, telepathy, high numbered elements, the patents, interdimensional portals, tractor beams, ayahuasca, and so on, but certain topics (especially ZPE) get the government irritated enough to start harassing people, and I get the impression there aren't any heavy science folks on here, anyway, so I'll have to give up that bit of intellectual recreation. I'll have to find some other intellectual outlet during this COVID period of sitting at home every day.Frown

May 28, 2020
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Guy said

That Cold War claim sounds false to me, too, though: 5,784 US patents are classified...https://slate.com/technology/2.....ublic.html...so why wouldn't these UFO patents just be classified, as well? China never sees those patents anyway, nor the American public, so making them unclassified to win an invisible race doesn't make much sense to me.

No, doesn't make much sense to me either.

And about the wikipedia idea that this is "misinformation intended to mislead the United States' strategic adversaries about the direction of United States defense research". Would they really think they can fool their opponents like that, wouldn't that mean they are grossly underestimating the scientist working there. Confused

Guy said

However, that disclosure argument does make some sense to me. I think it was David Adair who this year said he expects full disclosure around November 2020

SmileLooking forward to 20 November!!

Guy said

Again, I don't know what to make of all this, but I love hearing all this interesting science and border science stuff. I was sort of hoping to get in a deep discussion in these forums about ZPE, antigravity, telepathy, high numbered elements, the patents, interdimensional portals, tractor beams, ayahuasca, and so on, but certain topics (especially ZPE) get the government irritated enough to start harassing people, and I get the impression there aren't any heavy science folks on here, anyway, so I'll have to give up that bit of intellectual recreation. I'll have to find some other intellectual outlet during this COVID period of sitting at home every day.Frown

I am not sure what to make of it either, but if you want a "heavy science" discussion, I think you need to stick to the scientific method. Wink

May 28, 2020
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The patent seems to rely on an experiment performed by Hayasaka and Takeuchi in 1989. See the patent, https://patentimages.storage.g.....144532.pdf, page 5:

For the mathematical formalism of inertial mass reduction consider that in a published Physical Review Letter ( December 1989 ) , Hayasaka and Takeuchi report the anomalous weight reduction of gyroscopes for right rotations only

But I don't know if any one has been able to repeat this experiment.

https://www.newscientist.com/a.....se-weight/

Also I think the inventor got the numbers wrong:

If the results from Japan are true, the consequences would be profound. An explanation for flying saucers remains unlikely, though, because the gyroscope would need to spin at 200 million revolutions per minute to counterbalance all its weight!

200 million revolutions! Not 30,000 RPM as the patent mentions.

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