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24 hard 9-11 facts that can't be debunked
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The_Joker
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November 23, 2014 - 2:42 am
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Posted without editorial...it is not necessary

http://yournewswire.com/24-har.....the-judge/

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Here is something I've said many times, but will say again, and it's on point #4. This is where I think the cover-up is. I believe that the United States shot down Flight 93.

I've said this for many years, and I believe THIS is the cover-up about 9/11/01. We found out many years later (which supports my theory) that George W. Bush gave the order to shoot it down. We know this by his written testimony in his book.

That said, I believe after United 93 was shot down, Bush was never notified for "plausible deniability." No sitting President, Democrat or Republican, should have that stain on their Presidency. No, not for ego, party or anything else, rather than it preserves the White House and the OFFICE of the Presidency. That is a constant in the United States - and one of the only ones. Congress changes, the Senate changes, the man (or woman) who occupies the Oval Office changes... but the OFFICE of the Presidency will remain constant, and that office needs to be maintained.

Just my two cents.

Many of the other points, given if I had 9 hours to type a response, I feel can either adequately be explained or are interesting coincidences. Although, I did see a few things I've never looked into, and fired off a few FOIA requests to see what might be out there.

Of course, anyone who believes everything on this list will laugh at me filing FOIA requests on it -- but hey -- at least I try to do actual research ūüėČ

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I look forward to the FOIA information being posted in response to this thread... thank you. ūüėé

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I will definitely be posting it. What, if anything, it will come up with is yet to be known. But, rest assured, I will post it all.

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I believe there are a number of inconsistencies that need to be explained. The one thing, among many, and is my primary gripe, is the Pentagon strike. You have this terrorist who was so poor at flying a single engine Piper Cub that the instructor stated he was not confident in allowing this person to fly solo. Yet this same person takes controls of a state-of-the-art airliner and flies the damn thing like he's a Blue Angel during an airshow. Does he just nose dive it into the top of the Pentagon? Nooo he executes a difficult maneuver, brings that damn thing just feet above the grass all the while flying outside the stated parameters of the aircraft (in fact each plane that impacted a building that day did the same thing … operate outside the design limits of the plane). Veteran pilots couldn't replicate the maneuver in a simulator without multiple attempts. To use an analogy, that'd be like a WWII Kamikaze pilot trying to fly his plane into an opening of a carrier, rather than on top of it. Yeah right. The impact does not correspond to the size of the airliner … we have wing 'imprints' on the trade centers, but none on the Pentagon. Explanation? They folded back along side the fuselage during impact. So you're saying that one of the strongest parts of the plane couldn't 'punch' through the wall, but the hollow aluminum fuselage can? There pics of birds that have impacted with the nose portion of a plane and demolished it. I was a jet mech in the Navy and one day my aircraft came back (E2-C Hawkeye) pilots reporting a bird strike. The bird tore a huge chunk out of one of the prop blades, destroyed the engine internally (FOD Foreign Object Damage) and the engine cowling was severally cracked and had to be replaced. Speaking of engines, can it be explained how engines weighing somewhere in the neighborhood of 19,000 lbs. … made of high stress, heat resistant metal alloys did not leave any impact marks? Yet look at the wreckage of the Malaysian flight shot down over Ukraine and there's the engine, for the most part intact, after falling over 20,000 feet. I could go on but I'm not in the mood to type pages of text. I'll say this; the fact that security camera footage has been suppressed says about all that needs to be said. When information is withheld, there's a reason.

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