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May 6, 2009 - 8:25 am
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"browncoat77" wrote: I find it interesting that people have been complaining about crappy school systems in America, while also downing a liberal mentality. correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you calling programs funded by taxes socialist? If so, then it is ironic to have a problem with paying taxes that are used to help fund things like schools, because if schools got more funding, they could afford better books, better teachers, and better facilities. That money comes from taxes.

Um...These things aren't contradictory. Public schools exist because of socialistic institution. The problem with public education is not the number of books, but what is written within. I'd love to explore all the problems with modern American public schools (as time permits). ūüėÄ My father has a 6th grade education that was better than my public school education. How does that happen? Why was it, that before the '60's "reforms" my father spent less years in school to learn more than I learned in double that time?

I've found a few answers for that one. ;)_

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Also, in response to someone's post regarding capitalism not being taught in schools -- actually, there are public schools that do have high-school business classes. This country is by no means socialist or communist. If anything, it had been leaning with the Bush administration toward fascism, which is on the opposite end of the spectrum of political systems from socialism/communism.

This country IS Fascist. But, you can't blame just the Bush family, you have to also blame Truman, FDR, etc. Socialism and Communism are two very different concepts.

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Also I have a question: Does anyone have a model of a better government in mind, perhaps in Europe somewhere or something? And if it weren't for liberals, there would still be Jim Crow laws in the South....not all liberals were Democrats. There can be liberal republicans too; its just that this whole new Neo-Con craziness has tended to equate republicans with the extreme right.

Yes, our Founding Fathers, who were Classical Liberals (they wanted change) had a great idea for a new government, it was a Capitalistic Republic. Unfortunately, we're not a Republic and (thanks to the corporation of the "federal" "reserve") we're not Capitalistic either. And..."neo-cons" aren't new and they aren't conservative, yet they are cons and commies.

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Edit: I found this page http://www.politicsdefined.com.....ascism.htm about fascism.
Bush was very, very nationalistic. He and his ilk wanted to do things like ban books, for crying out loud. They were by no means for "the little man," so it was pretty much the opposite of socialism. They supported certain types of "down home Americans" not because they were "the little man" but because they tended to be extremely nationalistic, to the point where they supported a bill actually titled "The Patriot Act." As though if you disagreed with the bill it meant you were not a patriot, i.e. non-nationalistic. In the web page I referred to above, the author says in fascism "Therefore all individual's business is the state's business, the state's existence is the sole duty of the individual." Phone tapping, anyone??

Thanks for reading.

I'll try to check out that page when I have more time. I'm still trying to make it through this forum as I have time. It can be tiring. ūüôĀ

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"browncoat77" wrote: Soooo....integration of blacks and whites was a bad thing then? Wow. Yeah I'd say only an ignorant redneck would say something like that. Oh and I'm too young to have lived through that era, btw. It's one thing to express political opinions, but really? Integration was a bad thing?? C'mon. That's just sad.

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PS - Welcome to the 21st century! ūüėÄ

B.O. is shutting down the school voucher program. The program has proven successful and has become an embarrassment to the public school system, so B.O. is shutting it down. The parents have been screaming about this so B.O. had to back off and allow the current kids to graduate. The voucher schools are superior to the public schools, do a better of of educating kids and are safer. They also are populated with inner city blacks. B.O. can't have that. He wants those blacks under-educated and back on the government run plantation where they belong.

Here you see the government in the act of eliminating a solution and replacing it with a problem.

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The experiment in bussing didn't work, and that is backed by statistics. In Seattle they did it while I was in school, but they no longer bus people out of the neighborhood now. IT DIDN'T WORK! Those kids were just guinea pigs. What they found through that experiment was that children do better going to school in their own neighborhoods, no matter what color their skin is. To try to tie a failed experiment with racism is just the emotional marketing tool used by the commies/fascists to get you to stop questioning or thinking.

CodeBlack, he's ending the voucher programs???

Keep an eye out for the laws against home schooling. Uggh, I read a few articles about that a couple of years ago. I haven't kept up on it, since I don't have kids. I'm afraid that may be the next step. ūüôĀ Home schooling works, so long as the parents speak/write English and network with other home-schoolers and can afford the time.

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"Jaack wrote:

I hope we have a true conservative candidate for 2012 and that libertarians back this candidate.

We're going to convert you to Libertarian before 2012. ūüėČ

You'd make a great Libertarian!

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I think it was only one in D.C. or NYC, I can't remember but if its not government then its in Obama's cross hairs. He wants everything government run. The guy is an extremist whacko. Why people didn't see this during the campaign is a mystery. I guess they were so pissed at Bush they didn't care. Well they are going to pay now. And the US is soon to be a one party politbureau like the USSR. The Republicans are going left wing. Soon to be redundant. And libs ought to be scared like everybody else. Their side is filled with truly evil people and they will screw libs just as fast as everyone else. What am I saying, THEY ALREADY ARE! They put the next 2 generations in debt up to their eyeballs from birth to casket.

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"Nesaie" wrote: [quote="Jaack"]

I hope we have a true conservative candidate for 2012 and that libertarians back this candidate.

We're going to convert you to Libertarian before 2012. ūüėČ

You'd make a great Libertarian!

I do not mind saying I have many "Libertarian" type views. No way am I wasting my vote on a losing party and platform.

Politics is the art of compromise, and I will compromise certain planks if necessary for the greater good.

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