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May 6, 2009 - 7:26 am
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Cloning ability decreases each time you clone yourself

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Genetic sequence is the same in every one of your blood cells, skin cells etc.

Your DNA is ALL the same as itself within your body.

"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."

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Cloning is like copying something.
After a while a copy of the copy isn´t as good or as strong as the former one...

Truth doesn´t control you, you control it...

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How many copy pastes does it take to degrade text? How much asexual reproduction degrades an organism as low as a single cell animal or as high as a cape bee? The reason photocopies degrade is because of electrostatic printing creating imperfections, even inkjet and laser printers do this. DNA information tends to be more like digital, but it also can have replication errors thats why animal cloning has such miserable success rates, we are the ones who have figured out how to keep the code straight yet.

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We can't figure it out as of yet, BUT reproduction does the same thing we are trying to do, and it does that without long term errors, it's just a matter of figuring it out.

But DNA doesn't degrade from generation to generation. If there is an error, there is a defect, it there is no error then the person is regular and the DNA is intact.

"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."

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May 6, 2009 - 8:27 pm
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But how do you know for sure?

It´s not exactly a natural event.
And everything humans has ever done always result in atleast one small flaw.

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Well yes, nothing is ever perfect.

I know DNA replicates properly because of the way nature operates. It's been around for so long, the only way that would be possible is if DNA replicates in offspring properly, otherwise we'd all be mutants.

Now, whether or not we are eventually able to do it as good as it's done in nature, I don't know, but I suspect eventually we probably will.

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Well we are mono-hybrids though...
Since we are a mix from our mom and dad...

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I hate to tell you folks this but you are all wet on genetics. You are not even close to correct. Not only does not every cell in your body have the same exact DNA but it is impossible to guarantee perfect copies. Even your cells do not make perfect copies. That is how you get things like cancer and other mutations. And, even worse, your DNA actually changes throughout your life. For example, allergic reactions trigger genetic changes. These changes are small but sometimes significant. And there is different DNA: nuclear, mitachondrial, RNA, etc. And its not digital. Its chemical.

Making clones produces imperfect copies and those imperfections build up if you are copying copies.

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Of course, we take 12 chronosomes from each parent. (I think it's 12, it has been a while since I studies genetics though)

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May 6, 2009 - 10:35 pm
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Making clones produces imperfect copies and those imperfections build up if you are copying copies.

Which is what I basicly have said...
And yes there is nothing called a perfect copy or clone...
You can just tell my its thinking,
It would not even think the same things you do at the exact same time.

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