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April 12, 2009
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Lashmar,
I'm still of the opinion most of the energy storage can be done with fywheels and ultracapacitors (if those work right) so fuel becomes a rather pointless proposition except for heating/smelting and such.

But if its fuel you want there is this link from above regarding the Hydrogen Superhighway maglev train system. Which would according to the founders of the project generate enough excess power 80%-90% of all the the power needed in the USA (i'm not sure if thats just electrical or added in hydrogen excess).
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/.....e2760.html

and the newer site dedicated to the project

http://www.interstatetraveler.us/

April 12, 2009
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flywheels and ultracapacitors

I’m interested on that. 🙂

Do you have any information on things that you could do yourself, I.e in a shed?

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April 12, 2009
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Backyard stuff at the moment, and this would probably come in handy is clay waterfilters. I have a friend who been making those awhile but I don't know the details to tell you.

There is a nice hydroponics set up here it'd cost about $75-$80 to make.
http://www.hydroponicsonline.c.....plan01.htm
Note, getting thin wall PVC is difficult so a dremel may be need to thin the walls on a few parts.

Electricity I don't mess with much.

April 12, 2009
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Interesting. Large scale and that would work perfectly.

I’m trying to gather as much useful info now so when it comes to getting my farm I’ll be ready to go.

I saw one hydro system that cost about fifty pound to make and it grew you’re plants and created energy for you.

All it was, was a large tank a few yards of guttering and a generator. 😀

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April 12, 2009
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I've been looking into Bat Guano Tea as an alternative solution for chemicals in hydroponics. One thing that comes in handy all around is to build bat houses, keeps away mosquitos and provides guano. Therea re recipes and directions for building bat houses at a number of sites. Getting the right size of plastic mesh for inside a bat house can be a problem, metal can hurt their claws.

April 12, 2009
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One thing I'd like to know is the Lumens and wattage needed for these OLEDs type devices for a 4 person family hydroponics layout. http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NE ... 08/168466/

I'm still working the hurdles out in my head, one thing about the acreage is I believe it can be reduced by figuring out the individual seasonal out puts and how much really needs to be grown. The other was I was thinking many of these plants don't grow too tall maybe three feet so stacking the on bookshelf type racks and putting the light down the ceter witth airponics might work nicely. With OLEDs the central lighting might be easier to create.

April 12, 2009
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Worm shit should be very good for a hydro system.

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April 12, 2009
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alot of it depends on the mineral content not just the phopshorous and nitrogen. Remember though its must be more of tea than just adding mud or the pump will clog, I wish it was simple mud but alas nothing is that simple.

April 12, 2009
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I watch a program once (Victorian kitchen garden), really good program watch it if you can, and Harry, the head gardener used to have a sack of cow pats and leave it in a tank of water to water the plants with. Do you think that would balance the worm shit out?

I’m at that happy drunk stage for some reason. I don’t know why, I normally hold drink quite well (didn’t have much either). 😕

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April 12, 2009
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I'm not sure, I've heard too much cow manure can burn the plants, that a big thing with hydroponics is watching those Ph levels. I still have to assemble mine and experiment some.

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