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What is Jesus waiting for?
June 14, 2012
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What is Jesus waiting for?

Perhaps it is like we have already been shown the water but we refuse to drink. Perhaps we are being led through the desert so that we will choose the water that was presented to us. Kind of like the exodus, where people were led through a desert and suffered, waiting for the promised land.

"I demand to know the light of a promised land. I demand to see this corruption wiped away" Steve Tucker

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June 14, 2012
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"at1with0" wrote: What is Jesus waiting for?

Perhaps it is like we have already been shown the water but we refuse to drink. Perhaps we are being led through the desert so that we will choose the water that was presented to us. Kind of like the exodus, where people were led through a desert and suffered, waiting for the promised land.

And, like Exodus, the generations that believe are dying off and being replaced (see humphreys' study) with the unbelieving. In the case of the Exodus, it took a mere 40 years for the eye-witnesses to die off and be replaced by grumbling, ungrateful fools who actually favored captivity in Egypt with good food and spices, over liberty and a promise from God.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

June 14, 2012
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So Jesus is perhaps waiting for us to be thoroughly thirsty and ready to drink.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

July 18, 2012
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"I can conceive of nothing in religion, science, or philosophy, that is anything more than the proper thing to wear, for a while." ~ Charles Fort

July 19, 2012
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[glow=red]But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. . .[/glow]

July 19, 2012
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What is Jesus waiting for?

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July 19, 2012
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Patience towards us that we may come to repentence. That is, if your question was, what is He waiting for (to come back). This would be one of the reasons.

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"qmark" wrote: Patience towards us that we may come to repentence. That is, if your question was, what is He waiting for (to come back). This would be one of the reasons.

Repentance is a bit easier when the end is near and the gates of hell are on the horizon, rapidly approaching.

To come back, yes. I'm a bit puzzled why an omnipresent being can be said to leave or come back.

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July 19, 2012
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"at1with0" wrote: [quote="qmark"]Patience towards us that we may come to repentence. That is, if your question was, what is He waiting for (to come back). This would be one of the reasons.

Repentance is a bit easier when the end is near and the gates of hell are on the horizon, rapidly approaching.

To come back, yes. I'm a bit puzzled why an omnipresent being can be said to leave or come back.

Hell is rapidly approaching.

His Spirit is here, but the Son Himself is coming back in the flesh.

July 20, 2012
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If aliens invaded, they could use religion against humanity to deceive many, such as disguising themselves as the christian God/Jesus and the angels. They could enslave humanity with little effort on their side while their human followers did most of their work for them, and wipe out all the troublemakers who refuse to accept "Him", leaving their most devout worshippers as their human representatives to manage the daily affairs of keeping slaves in their place.

And those "chosen" humans would undoubtedly feel as if they were part of something wonderful, "doing the Lord's work", as they betrayed and condemned their fellow man to a brutal and pitiful fate.

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