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May 4, 2013 - 3:53 pm
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Remember the labyrinth of Hellraiser? That was a good maze.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

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May 7, 2013 - 6:54 am
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"at1with0" wrote: Remember the labyrinth of Hellraiser? That was a good maze.

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Feel free. Take your time. We have
eternity... to know your flesh...

I probably know every line of the entire 1st and 2nd movies. The 3rd one went off the rails and got silly.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

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May 7, 2013 - 5:29 pm
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My memory of it is pretty fuzzy. I remember a little box that could change shape and of course, pinnhead.

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"at1with0" wrote: My memory of it is pretty fuzzy. I remember a little box that could change shape and of course, pinnhead.

Your pic is silly. George Bush as Pinhead? whatevs.

Anyway, Hellraiser 1 and 2 were big time favorite movies of mine. I spent a lot of time analyzing the whole story. Apparently pinhead, in his toying with Kirsty, was seen as becoming weak. So Leviathan (lord of the Labyrinth) rose up a new evil badass (the former Dr. Channard). I remember getting a big emotional rush, watching (for the first time in my life) an evil badass square off against another evil badass. A lot of movies have copied the motif but as far as I am concerned, Hellraiser 2 was the first movie to introduce the idea. It's too bad pinhead lost the fight, though the new evil Cenobite (Channard) died eventually and pinhead came back in future sequels.


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Original Cenobite Clan

Notice Dr. Charrard was connected to Leviathan directly through some kind of tentacle attached to the top of his head. I presume this was so that Leviathan could have more direct control over his minion.

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I've seen what looked like a cenobite once or twice upon a time. I probably should have been scared but I was closer to dumbfounded.

Isaiah tells us that God created darkness, which makes a lot of sense. Sometimes it feels like we're all just pawns on God's chessboard in his deathmatch with himself. Either way, God did a good job with darkness...

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"at1with0" wrote: I've seen what looked like a cenobite once or twice upon a time. I probably should have been scared but I was closer to dumbfounded.

Isaiah tells us that God created darkness, which makes a lot of sense. Sometimes it feels like we're all just pawns on God's chessboard in his deathmatch with himself. Either way, God did a good job with darkness...

Free will AND predestination, both are true. It is Difficult for a three dimensional brain to get a grip on :mrgreen:

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"khanster" wrote: [quote="at1with0"]I've seen what looked like a cenobite once or twice upon a time. I probably should have been scared but I was closer to dumbfounded.

Isaiah tells us that God created darkness, which makes a lot of sense. Sometimes it feels like we're all just pawns on God's chessboard in his deathmatch with himself. Either way, God did a good job with darkness...

Free will AND predestination, both are true. It is Difficult for a three dimensional brain to get a grip on :mrgreen:

Obviously, ¬(p ∧ ¬p) is no longer a tautology in three-valued logic. :Doh: :mrgreen:

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"at1with0" wrote: [quote="khanster"][quote="at1with0"]I've seen what looked like a cenobite once or twice upon a time. I probably should have been scared but I was closer to dumbfounded.

Isaiah tells us that God created darkness, which makes a lot of sense. Sometimes it feels like we're all just pawns on God's chessboard in his deathmatch with himself. Either way, God did a good job with darkness...

Free will AND predestination, both are true. It is Difficult for a three dimensional brain to get a grip on :mrgreen:

Obviously, ¬(p ∧ ¬p) is no longer a tautology in three-valued logic. :Doh: :mrgreen:

Three parameters are required for the inclusion of p AND not-p

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May 12, 2013 - 2:33 pm
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But does that really offer actual insight into a paradox?

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May 12, 2013 - 3:01 pm
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"at1with0" wrote: But does that really offer actual insight into a paradox?

Insights are intuitive leaps and as Einstein says...

“The intellect has little to do on the road to discovery. There comes a leap in consciousness, call it Intuition or what you will, the solution comes to you and you don't know how or why.”

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