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October 22, 2009
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"frrostedman" wrote: If science contradicts religion, or if religion contradicts science, at least one of them must be wrong. There have been times in history where the scientific community has corrected not the bible, but poor interpretation of the bible, as we saw in the Galilean scandal. On the other hand, biblical revelation can act as intellectual brakes upon scientific theories that are groundless.

R. C. Sproul

This just goes back to what I've said before. When the Bible is proved wrong, suddenly they reinterpret the passages to mean something else, and imply that they knew all along their original interpretation was wrong.

Pretty much put yourselves in a win-win position, there, right?

Well, I guess you gotta protect your faith from being falsified somehow.

Smells a bit of willful delusion to me, though.

The real truth is, those original interpretations that were proved wrong, were not poor interpretations at all, they were simply honest ones. They were taking the Bible seriously, and not twisting its words. Unfortunately, the Bible was wrong, and therefore some "poor interpretation" was needed to fix the Bible writer's errors.

"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."

- Sam Harris

October 22, 2009
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Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

October 22, 2009
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"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."

- Sam Harris

October 22, 2009
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Did your name always have two r's at the front.

I only noticed one before.

"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."

- Sam Harris

October 22, 2009
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"humphreys" wrote: Did your name always have two r's at the front.

I only noticed one before.

yep.

I like the light switch. The last thing the children think of when they turn the lights out to go to bed, is to honor their parents. 😛

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

October 22, 2009
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You don't think it's Jesus's Penis inappropriately sticking out of the wall, and the fact they have to touch it just to turn out the light?

I'm just at a loss how this thing ever got made. I wonder whether after they started selling it, one of the designers suddenly realized the flaw, and was like "Ooooh crap, that MIGHT be considered a bit dirty".

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October 22, 2009
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I didn't notice. Thanks for pointing it out. 🙁

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

October 23, 2009
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"inja" wrote: [quote="qmark"]That may be true but I think the difference is in the response.

But it means absolutely nothing qmark.
The Jews have a history of persecution they keep alive so they can full fill what they believe is their purpose.
The Muslims persecute, criticize or as frrostedman says mock and treated poorly other Muslims in regards to a technicality that keeps their argument alive.
Tibetan monks are killed for their way of life by the Chinese communist regime.

Christianity does not fall out of that category or sphere. There is no difference. Each one of these groups feel the same way as frrostedman and they too most often do not use violence as a retribution.

What makes the Christian response any different to ridicule? Nothing really. Ridicule, mock and even going to war or reacting violently is mainly lack of respect for anothers way of thinking, living and belief. You and others might become stronger and more determined in your own belief system but it has nothing to do with being right. Everybody believes they are right. When in reality we all have found in one form or another a language we can relate to because it is our own language of understanding.

I read frrostedman quote and see it as a blanket statement for every religious and spiritual person on the earth....not a theme merely for the Christian community.

Personally I like this translation from the Dead Sea Scroll

...to lift our eyes to heaven when the eyes of others are on the ground is not easy. To worship at the feet of the angles when others worship fame and riches is not easy. But perhaps the most difficult of all is to think the thoughts of the angels, to speak the words of the angels, and to do as angels do.

inja, the difference in the response was with the atheist. At least, I believe it would be. Maybe I should have been more specific.

October 23, 2009
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Darwinism is still very much alive, utterly dominating biology. Despite the fact that no one has ever been able to prove the creation of a single distinct species by Darwinist means, Darwinism dominates the academy and the media. Darwinism also has not one meaningful word to say on the origins of organic life, a striking lacuna in a theory supposedly explaining life.

Alas, Darwinism has had a far bloodier life span than Imperialism. Darwinism, perhaps mixed with Imperialism, gave us Social Darwinism, a form of racism so vicious that it countenanced the Holocaust against the Jews and mass murder of many other groups in the name of speeding along the evolutionary process.

Ben Stein

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

October 23, 2009
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But the most thoroughgoing Social Darwinist of all was Adolf Hitler, whose Nazi party carried racial theory, nationalism, eugenics, and Nietzsche to their logical conclusion and put them into practice.

R. C. Sproul

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

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