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Monergism vs Synergism
December 12, 2010
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Lets make a clear distinction here.
Your knowledge and awareness is fascinating, but at the end of the
day, what are you doing with it?

What do you think I should be doing with my knowledge?

And how much of your knowledge
do you take responsibility for?

What does it mean to take responsibility for knowledge?

Like I said, remaining in uncertainty while accumulating and
accumulating, taking no accountability for your knowledge, not good.

Accountability?

"it is easy to grow crazy"

December 14, 2010
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"at1with0" wrote: Lets make a clear distinction here.
Your knowledge and awareness is fascinating, but at the end of the
day, what are you doing with it?

What do you think I should be doing with my knowledge?

And how much of your knowledge
do you take responsibility for?

What does it mean to take responsibility for knowledge?

Like I said, remaining in uncertainty while accumulating and
accumulating, taking no accountability for your knowledge, not good.

Accountability?

People that are around you, people here, people in your home life, people who have been in your life. What do you think they think of you....let me tell you because I already know.
You cannot know all the things you do and play dumb. People know, they are aware
of your awareness whether you understand that or not, and they know where their awareness fits into that, that often times you are aware of more informations. You thinking little of yourself is not taking responsibility for your informations, guess what that gives them...
It does not give them hope, it does not give them love, it does not give them peace,
it does not give them compassion. It keeps them at a certain frequency, because people like you
are spread out at a distance....this is changing more and more, where more people will be coming together as much more space has been freed up for this to happen.
However, start feeling genuinely good about yourself, confident, considerate,
take time to listen to others when you have the opportunity and do not give short
circuits by dumping everything you know at once... thats not being kind, patient, considerate,
loving, at times that is being selfish, you don't have room for that. You know what it would do to the average person if they sat down and read every frign writing youve written...words are triggers are they not? Would you give someone drugs for a month straight and then tell them good luck on the way down? What you should be doing with your knowledge is caring for yourself in the real sense. In any social situation, you should be very comfortable, if you are not, who in the heck else is going to be comfortable. Who else is going to be happy...etc etc
You have alot to give, infact its a new endless chapter.

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

December 14, 2010
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"sandra" wrote: People that are around you, people here, people in your home life, people who have been in your life.

..which wouldn't be very many. It seems as though you think I should be carrying people. Been there, done that. Where did that get me?? The best way to carry people is to let them carry themselves. Who carried me?

What do you think they think of you....let me tell you because I already know.

Why should I care?

You cannot know all the things you do and play dumb. People know, they are aware
of your awareness whether you understand that or not, and they know where their awareness fits into that, that often times you are aware of more informations. You thinking little of yourself is not taking responsibility for your informations, guess what that gives them...

Why is it so much about them? About what I can do for other people? What about me working on me for the moment? Lawd knows I need a lot of improvement. I certainly don't feel like some kind of oracle for people. Who would I be dispensing this information to anyway? I can think of one person who might be partially receptive. That's it.

It does not give them hope, it does not give them love, it does not give them peace,
it does not give them compassion.

Why is it up to me to give people these things? Are you assuming that my true nature is all touchy feely airy fairy pink cloud sort of thing? Have you not been paying attention?? Hey, it would be nice to accumulate wisdom if that were even possible and dispense it to people like a guru but like I said I've been there and done that and it's gotten me right here right now with you trying to tell me what I ought to be doing with my life and, sister, I don't let anyone else define for me what I am or what I should be doing. If I did, I'm shore there's a horde of people who think I ought to do different, and I would lose my will to live in trying to live up to other people's standards, like yours. Maybe I'm a lost cause you're wasting your time with. I do find it curious though, and there's more of course. Much more, in fact.

Give someone drugs for a month, I like that. It has happened, as you might know.
Not exactly nice, no, but it's who I was at the time.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

December 14, 2010
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"at1with0" wrote: [quote="sandra"]People that are around you, people here, people in your home life, people who have been in your life.

..which wouldn't be very many. It seems as though you think I should be carrying people. Been there, done that. Where did that get me?? The best way to carry people is to let them carry themselves. Who carried me?

What do you think they think of you....let me tell you because I already know.

Why should I care?

You cannot know all the things you do and play dumb. People know, they are aware
of your awareness whether you understand that or not, and they know where their awareness fits into that, that often times you are aware of more informations. You thinking little of yourself is not taking responsibility for your informations, guess what that gives them...

Why is it so much about them? About what I can do for other people? What about me working on me for the moment? Lawd knows I need a lot of improvement. I certainly don't feel like some kind of oracle for people. Who would I be dispensing this information to anyway? I can think of one person who might be partially receptive. That's it.

It does not give them hope, it does not give them love, it does not give them peace,
it does not give them compassion.

Why is it up to me to give people these things? Are you assuming that my true nature is all touchy feely airy fairy pink cloud sort of thing? Have you not been paying attention?? Hey, it would be nice to accumulate wisdom if that were even possible and dispense it to people like a guru but like I said I've been there and done that and it's gotten me right here right now with you trying to tell me what I ought to be doing with my life and, sister, I don't let anyone else define for me what I am or what I should be doing. If I did, I'm shore there's a horde of people who think I ought to do different, and I would lose my will to live in trying to live up to other people's standards, like yours. Maybe I'm a lost cause you're wasting your time with. I do find it curious though, and there's more of course. Much more, in fact.

Give someone drugs for a month, I like that. It has happened, as you might know.
Not exactly nice, no, but it's who I was at the time.

lmfao Laugh

Opened up the flood gates. Laugh

And who is it that you think I am, some fairy sissy a**,
I'm built tough like ford baby. Laugh

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

December 14, 2010
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What is important is that you got the information, that is what is important as it was needed whether right now you can see that or not, I have no care for see, don't need to.
Everything is good. You think I have gone through nothing to get this far...
Now is a different time in your life. My standards.. I try to care for the people in my
life the best that I can, and what I have offered is nothing less to you. No you had not told
me about giving someone drugs for a month but those were the words I chose to get that certain point across. Now I see it is time for me to chill and thats ok.

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

December 14, 2010
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Maybe God observes us and when he/she/it/them see something worth "saving", something kicks in to start or speed up a process laying, maybe dorment within us?
A switch gets turned on.
I'm just pondering..tossing ideas about
I am more a beleiver of an incrementally, back and forth, and all over road to God..that we are all on..at our own speeds. (which in one's journey can go faster at some points, and slower, and even backwards..chutes and ladders style, as we go)

There's also the theory that until 'all are saved..none are saved'
in other words..we go as a group or none of us do..each one of us responsible for all of us..we are "our brothers keeper", after all

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

December 14, 2010
8:09 am
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Yeah perfect timing. Chutes and ladders style I like that.
Good feeling in reading those words. 😐

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

December 14, 2010
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What are we being saved from?

"sandra" wrote: What is important is that you got the information, that is what is important as it was needed whether right now you can see that or not, I have no care for see, don't need to.
Everything is good. You think I have gone through nothing to get this far...
Now is a different time in your life. My standards.. I try to care for the people in my
life the best that I can, and what I have offered is nothing less to you. No you had not told
me about giving someone drugs for a month but those were the words I chose to get that certain point across. Now I see it is time for me to chill and thats ok.

Hehe, no I didn't give anyone DRUGS for a month literally, but the effects of being around me seem similar at times.

You think I have gone through nothing to get this far...
Assumption. One of several, in fact. I think more highly of you than you realize as evidenced by this remark.

Indeed: your standards. I make a point of it to not live by other people's standards. Usually, what other people's opinions are regarding how I should live my life and how I should spend my "currency" is worthless.

Some sincerely asked questions went unanswered so it probably is time to "chill." If only half the information is dispensed, then what good is it?

"it is easy to grow crazy"

December 14, 2010
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"at1with0" wrote:
Indeed: your standards. I make a point of it to not live by other people's standards. Usually, what other people's opinions are regarding how I should live my life and how I should spend my "currency" is worthless.

Your currency just remember has been added to greatly. Laugh

“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
— Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

December 14, 2010
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I'm saving for the rainy day which seems almost a foregone conclusion. Sometimes I fancy myself a soldier in boot camp.
One major thing I took from your writings, one of many, was that I have been acknowledged and yes that sort of faaaades away and I don't know what to do with it. Did you read the Arcanist Probation poem when I linked to it? It does have a lot to do with what we're talking about, the WHAT that is DOING the acknowledging. Despite your failure to see the relevance.

In fact, everything seems to fade in the present moment. I have had some really profound experiences that I forget. One time I was sitting cross-legged under a streetlight at night and I could feel with my hands and arms a pressure between me and the ground. Seeing, as Don Juan might put it. Seeing the energy exuded by the planet and the forces that be. (Not of course with the eyes, that's not what Don Juan meant.) Then a flash like a photo was seen against the surrounding areas and the pressure went away. I saw with my own eyes three people in a house suddenly illuminated and the woman asked the man, "did you see that?" It was some kind of vision. Visions are few and far between but I value them immensely though they, too, fade in the present moment. Why is that? Maybe my brain would be on overload. There have been several; I wish I had documented them. I am altering the doses on the herbal supplements I take so as to hopefully make me less absent minded. My mind is dulled, like Chambers of Dis of Morbid Angel fame. But really I would like to share the experience of awakening/transformation with others but I don't see how to, or even if that would be a good thing. I feel as though I am on some personal quest ("my answer" thread in Q's) but I'm not even sure what the objectives are. Almost certain of it.

Then again I'm kind of toasted at the moment. rofl

Your words affected me to the point where I lost my feeling of centeredness but I have gotten it back, as it were. And maybe I should be knocked off my center for what I'm apparently wasting. From the center, movement in any direction is possible. Say that reminds me of another poem which I won't quote here as THAT would be wasted though it has a lot to do with definers of my worth and what not.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

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