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Intuition is basically being able to understand your feelings and how they interact with the physical world. What I mean is a person needs to understand their emotions in order to fully understand intuition and you have to be at peace with yourself. People just think to much nowadays and they don't rely on their gut instinct anymore and that basically is what you feel about something or someone. If a person wants to develop intuition, I believe that you must meditate since you have to have a place of calmness to understand emotion and being able to l let go of your own ego.

When you are in a deep trance during meditatin only then can you feel serenity. Being able to meditate on certain situations, a person will learn to be able to solve most problems on their own and be able to see different outcomes of different events. For me personally, I believe intuition and foresight are related to each other.

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A dictionary can get the ball rolling:

  1. direct perception of truth, fact, etc., independent of any reasoning process; immediate apprehension.[/*]
  2. a fact, truth, etc., perceived in this way.[/*]
  3. a keen and quick insight.[/*]
  4. the quality or ability of having such direct perception or quick insight.[/*]
  5. Linguistics. the ability of the native speaker to make linguistic judgments, as of the grammaticality, ambiguity, equivalence, or nonequivalence of sentences, deriving from the speaker's native-language competence.[/*]
  6. Philosophy:[/*]

[*]an immediate cognition of an object not inferred or determined by a previous cognition of the same object.[/*]
[*]any object or truth so discerned.[/*]
[*]pure, untaught, noninferential knowledge.[/*][/list]

There are two or three schools of thought that compete in my mind. One is that intuition is, strictly speaking, something that happens in the brain. A materialistic type of processing. Intuition is the conduit (perhaps the Corpus callosum) between my sequential reasoning 'module' and my non-sequential processing 'module'. By module, I mean an aspect of mind such as the module that feels emotion or the module that reasons sequentially.

The other school of thought I entertain is that intuition is the conduit connecting you to _____ , through which information and insights come from _______ to your conscious and/or subconscious mind. The trick is in the translation of the information from mentalese, a hypothetical language in which concepts and propositions are represented in the mind without words, into something understandable.

My current point of view is that intuition has three flavors: one attributed to material mechanisms of brain, another to a connection between myself and ____, and a third faux intuition that comes from ego, such as fear manifested into what feels like intuition. Fear often comes in the form of something out of sequence, similar in that respect to intuition, like anxiety over nothing in particular which becomes feelings of impending doom. Sometimes, the sequential reasoning aspect can be of benefit to assuage unjustified fear or delusions of grandeur.

Through my intuition on a physical level, I act without thinking, flowing, or "in the zone," as it were. There is no sequential thought process, I just do. This doing is automatic and without interference from my sequential reasoning module. Some activities this includes are writing, creating art, as well as physical actions like grabbing a falling object before it hits the ground or making a jumper without conscious intent to do so (not "over thinking"). Sometimes, I will turn my head automatically and find myself looking at someone who is looking at me. I didn't formulate the thought, "someone is watching," my head just turns. It's events like this which lead me to believe intuition is not just a product of activity in the brain.

Relying solely on what isn't intuition, such as solely relying on learned reason, to arrive at conclusions, to get answers, is to limit the scope of one's set of tools. Intuition has the potential to give the answers, but then sometimes we feel that those conclusions must be "justifiable" and, moreover, "justified" before they are accepted. Einstein's intuition was usually spot on and since his audience was formal theoretical physicists, he had to translate his intuition into a language they could understand. On the other hand, many so called crackpots have intuition that either does not resemble what is or is not translated into a language physicists can understand. These intuitions are over-analyzed most likely and the kernel of what is, captured by intuition, is ignored or lost.

This is also reflective of how intuition itself works. Oftentimes I have an intuition that I may or may not understand because it's not always in a 'language' that I understand. Rather, my intuition comes in mentalese. The onus is then on me to, when communicating with others, or myself understanding the intuition, craft words so that my intuition can be understood in terms that lend themselves to a linear, sequential thought process, unless the other person is able to understand non-sequential thought processes such as poetic license.

As it is limiting to rely solely on sequential reasoning, it is also limiting to disregard reason as a tool. Least limiting is to use a melange of both reason and intuition.

My intuition tends to be revelations about myself and others, as well as insight into some aspect of reality in general. It is not going to give me the lottery numbers. The intent behind intuition is to get the answers I need, just in time for when I need them. It has been said that intuition will always lead you in the right direction; this is so with the proviso that the so called right direction can be the most difficult direction. The answers are often difficult to abide. What you know "deep down" is intuition such as you know "deep down" that you should quit your job while the sequential reasoning process would tell you to not quit for reasons A, B, C, ... etc.

Intuition can often be impossible to fully understand in a sequence-based language where all subjects are associated with objects and the answers are built by intermediate steps. I can say that intuitively the word set means a collection, aggregate, assemblage, container, etc. If I look up the definitions of those words, I will see other words. When I keep looking up the definitions, I will see that set is part of the definition of the word set. Words for which this is true I call atomic words. Regardless, words often, or even always, cannot be truly defined but their meaning is conveyed through intuition. This lends itself to a conveyance of understanding through intuition alone, absent of words. Words are potentially unnecessary triggers of intuitive understanding.

To go out there a bit, I want to add that sometimes my intuition manifests physically, giving me concrete, if enigmatic, clues and cues as to what I am intuiting. This would be the metaphorical equivalent of reading the writings on the wall or heeding signs that present themselves, like a song coming on the radio that seems to speak to you personally that has significance.

Most of the time, intuitions manifest in me as a sort of feeling that is usually very subtle. It's almost impossible to describe how this feels, but I would say it is not entirely dissimilar to the sensation of dreaming. For me, it lasts less than a second, usually, and I often am not sure what it means. Only later does the meaning click into place and the intuition articulated.

Cultivating and improving intuition can be done by listening to and acting upon intuition more frequently. With practice, one can discriminate between the three flavors of intuition; the most important is arguably the ability to rule out faux intuition. This is something I'm still working on. As was mentioned in the lucid dreaming thread, a dream journal can encourage more dreams. Similarly, listening to and remembering intuition can serve a similar function. The next step after being aware of my intuition is acting on it. Acting on intuition consistently tends to bring out the best possible outcome in my experience, albeit the best possible outcome might not occur until years after the intuition led to it. Often, sequential reasoning interferes with this process.

I don't see intuition as having limits, per se, but for me, at least, intuition gives me no more than I need to know and no more that I need to act on. In this sense my intuition is limited to what I need and does not extend to gaining information that is unnecessary, frivolous, or insignificant.

Intuition is a form of sight, literally speaking. When two people's intuition conflict, it just means they are seeing different things, or seeing the same thing differently. There is no "wrong" way to see. This seeing can be skewed by the sequential reasoning process, so a goal is to have sight (intuition) unfettered by that process. It is equally not "wrong" to have fettered sight, as long as your awareness is capable of discriminating sight from blindness or sight skewed by logic and your personal swing. Aleister Crowley once quipped, "for pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is [in] every way perfect." The same can be said of intuition: for pure intuition, unassuaged of attaching unwarranted interpretation and your personal swing, is in every way perfect.

Omniscient are the eyes that see beyond
what we choose to see
transcending of beliefs, that limit man's being
the dogma that feeds the listless
has thrived uncounted years
impeding on ones perception
of what is to be.

the sights that lay before you
destroy your beliefs.

Awaken to be
At One with Nothing.
Now all will be seen.
it came with ease
unfulfilled were the days of your being
but now you will see

I have come to the end of what I wanted to say at this time, though as an aside, it will be interesting to see how intuition will work in the field of artificial intelligence. That might help us understand the intuition that stems from the physical processes in the brain. Maybe there will even some day be a pill you can take to enhance that intuition. As for right now, the second type of intuition is probably best enhanced when it is paid attention to, acknowledged, and acted upon. It is like weight lifting in that regard.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

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March 15, 2010 - 11:34 pm
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At1, great post!
I agree with and/or relate to all you wrote.

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

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ty, glad you can relate. ūüėČ

"it is easy to grow crazy"

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