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I.D.E. Thomas - Welsh Minister on Fallen Angels and Nephilim
April 11, 2020
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I want to add to what was said in the video above, which for the most part, I agree with. The part that was not said, but is in the Bible, is that Nephilim beings existed after the flood too. Which means that satanic angels also engaged in some form of procreation with women after the flood.

 

We read of Nephilim/giants being in the land of Palestine during and after the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt. Joshua fought them. If you ever wonder why God seemed so harsh on some cities, with men, women and children being utterly destroyed, you can be sure that this forbidden mixing was likely going on there, and the offspring of "giants" were wicked beyond comprehension. King David, as a boy, killed a Philistine giant named Goliath. So I believe this mixing between humans and celestial beings has never actually stopped. Only in Noah's day, it was extremely widespread. Jesus claimed it will be like the time of Noah in the last days. Could that mean we may see Nephilim beings in large numbers again on earth? Perhaps. 

 

Many Bible teachers claim Satan and his angels have been cast out of heaven and down to the earth sometime in the ancient past. This is a major mistake. The book of Jude, in the New Testament, says that these angels/sons of God that sinned sexually with human women, came here on their own accord. Check out Jude 6,7. They purposely left their own domain in the heavens to come here, and they came to stay. Some Bible translations uses the word "abandoned their first estate", or "abandoned their proper dwelling". In other words, they were not cast down here. They left their celestial home and came here willingly because of the human women. 

 

Because of this information, I think that some of the modern stories of sexual contact with "aliens" is not some crazy made up fairy tale. There is absolute truth to it. Women in our modern times claiming to have babies by beings not from this earth? Yes. It's hard to grasp this, but it really happens, IMHO. 

April 22, 2020
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The Bible says to those who believe to be careful how we behave when meeting strangers, "for some have entertained angels unawares." - Hebrews 13:2.

 

The word angel specifically means "messenger". Therefore any being that has a message, human or otherwise, can be labeled an angel. You find this to be true throughout the Bible. Even God Himself is said to be the "Angel of the LORD" at times in Scripture. So the above quote from the book of Hebrews could refer to humans as well as literal heavenly angels. 

 

I think this indicates that the belief that some ufologists have, that there are "people" walking among us that are not from earth, is true. I think Heb. 13:2 indicates just that. I believe you could be walking in a crowd and some of the people may not be human.  And it appears from the Bible that evil angelic beings at times mate(d) with human women and have offspring. Which tells me that human/angelic hybrids is a reality. I think it is perfectly reasonable to label the human and angel offspring as "human/alien hybrids."

 

Why can we call angels, whether good or evil, "aliens"? I think it is fine to call angels aliens because the word alien means, "Stranger, Outsider, Foreigner, Unfamiliar." Angels are not from here. They don't live here, or aren't supposed to live here. That makes them fit the definitions for the word alien.    

 

Heavenly angels also fit perfectly with the term "extraterrestrial". We know the word "extraterrestrial" means, "of or outside of the earth or its atmosphere". Terrestrial mean of or from the earth. So a being who is not earthly but celestial, which heavenly angels are by nature, can rightly be labeled as aliens and extraterrestrials. 

 

This brings me to my last point. Angels, or the "host of Heaven" in the Bible, do not pretend to be aliens or ET's. A satanic angel in no way "masquerades" as a being from outer space, as many Christians assert. They are from space. No pretending is necessary. However, a disembodied spirit of the Nephilim, could pretend to be from elsewhere.

 

The ancient book of Enoch states that demons are the spirits of the Nephilim that have died. These demons could pretend to be from outer space, when in reality they were conceived here. But their "father" would be an "alien", who is not from here. I also believe these demons pretend to be our dead relatives or ghosts of other people. I think many of the ghost hunters are finding out that many of the alleged spirits of the dead are NOT humans. They are demons masquerading as deceased humans. 

April 23, 2020
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I believe that you have this part wrong or Miss understood.

God is a spirit first and foremost. God was alone and then desired to be loved after creating the cosmos and so forth. God created angels, they were strictly made for worshipping God.

He desired to be loved and worshipped of ones own free will, so man was created to have a choice. The fall in the garden, due to the sexual intercourse between the beast (serpent), caused the fall and birth of Cain. After Cain was when sin was literally born. 

Think how could Cain and Abel be born of God and be different if they had the spirit of God. Well Cain didn't, he had the spirit of the beast or serpent.

So that's why I don't believe in the angels are aliens scenario.

As for Satan and his deceitfulness and his followers, I just can think it's was part of God's plan. Not exactly sure on that.

April 26, 2020
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I'm not sure I understand your points. Could you please elaborate a little more? Or maybe direct me to a website that has your views on this? 

Are you saying that the fall of man, the first act of sin, was not eating the forbidden fruit to "make men wise and become as Gods", but was rather sexual contact with Satan/the serpent?

And are you saying that you believe that the sons of God in Genesis 6 are the line of Cain? 

April 28, 2020
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Like I said before I came from a church who's teachings are from the Bible and the prophet William Marion brahnham.

He taught that the sex act between Eve and the serpent. The serpent wasn't a snake or something in the beginning, he explained it was like a man but without a soul, and yes eve had sex and then, Cain, remember he was the first born. 

Typically your of your father, your spirit, that's when evil entered. I believe Cain was a giant or a mix.

God said his true word would be his from the eyes of the wise and prudent, takes a spiritual revelation to understand.

Or at least that's what I was taught along those lines.

April 30, 2020
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I have heard the belief that Eve and the "serpent" had sexual relations that produced Cain before. I can't remember exactly who it was I heard teaching that. It was a long time ago.

I don't believe it, for the reason that Genesis 4:1 plainly states that Adam had relations with Eve and conceived Cain. But anyway, thanks for sharing your views. 

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