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God Is Imaginary: Examine Jesus' Miracles (Proof #14)
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greeney2
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February 28, 2011 - 1:38 am
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Not to repeat the other post, we really all need to all find a way to see that HBO movie, The Sunset Limited. Its a lesson for all of us, just ask Bionic, she saw it.

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February 28, 2011 - 1:46 am
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Definitely gonna check it out. Thanks for the suggestion.

"it is easy to grow crazy"

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February 28, 2011 - 3:14 am
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"event_horizon" wrote: Because you said it was there. :crazy:

Allow me to throw a "what if"at you..

What if a person very close to you could,at will,tell you who,a friend,was in a store you pulled up in front of.A gas station or a mall.You laugh of course "yea right' to person with you.Then,your friend comes walking out the door a few minutes later.Car no where close,sometimes not until your in the mall do you see them.You always look,as to find them cause you want to prove them foolish.Yet,EVERY time...they are right.At 10,15,that enough times?.20 1000 to satisfy the doubt in self?I had this problem.I was pinned down this way.It wasn't "fun" even disturbing at first as I have been the contrary type too.I'm a "show me" guy and well,it showed me.Even told me why.

Now..she could see what I could not,from the large parking lot.Hundreds of cars btw.She saw what I could not!..And proved it..over and over and will again the next time one familiar to us is within "range".

Then,she tells me about "others" she sees that I cannot.Stand beside me sometimes.Each with their own stories which they convey to her,why?Say they are "compelled" to come.Lost,confused.

Now,if I cannot see them,yet she says she can,what do I believe?..Thats your whole premise,If I cant see,I cant believe.I couldn't seee my friends,yet it was true,there they were in the flesh yet flesh isn't how she sees them.Can't believe unless he meets YOUR demands?..lol..Fine,don't...If You were meant to see,you would see.."you never know what you arent supposed to know."..Obviously,you aren't ready to know.If would break your mind due to your rigidity anyway,so don't expect anything soon.Unless IT decides its for the best and you are capable.=for purpose.

I'm not selling a religion,or even dogma.Nor am I'm telling what he wants of you.Only you and he know that.Its buried deep in you,you only seem too seek reasons why its not true.Attempting to prove a negative which I hear is impossible.

You seem to be selling "nothings true,all lies,tricking you"...Tough sell bro.Every time I look into my childs face,I KNOW.You seem to struggle seeing the obvious stuff anyway.My child IS a mountain,Life in motion,not random pointless life.All by accident is far harder to believe or accept.You look at my child,you just see a kid.Its not your blessing,its what you should see,not me though.

"Nothings real" and "there is no Maker" is argueing FOR nothingness.Do what you Like but beware,if He comes for you when your day is due,what would compel you tou go into what he sends for you?.."It not real"..will not show you the way home.You can't believe in anything you cant prove and you spend all your time finding reasons,ways,to Not believe in bigger than you.In your mind YOU are the biggest thing there is.YOU are the highest power you see.Free will makes us a tad power crazed.lol..If our Free will gets out of our control sometimes,well,alot.Free will IS power.Control over our own thoughts,belieffs.Some struggle greatly EVER just submitting anything to an idea not their own.Rather prove negatives than find the truth,the reasons why rather than why not.Ah,the intellect working against itsef.

You are blessed with Life,a mind,maybe kids,a family who loves you(hopefully.) ALL blessings,right? Who gets the credit from you,whom do you thank for these gifts you can't create for youself?..Pray and thank luck or just enjoy your toys with no thanks for the one who gives and never takes?..Never look a gifthorse in the mouth they say,you deny there even is a "gifthorse".

Take a bit of you obstinance and use the determination in it to find a crumb of belief without demands to see what others see for THEIR purpose.He will not meet YOUR demands,you give him no gifts other than disbelief,which you are far more religious about than I am about my views.LOL

Your good person though,at least you determined.To prove what to whom I have no Idea.

By demanding we all see something so we all get to see to know seems illogical.If you KNOW,you will go along then.Not argue,not be difficult as is in your nature.Then me and you would be the same.Both believing then,huh?..Its not His duty to MAKE you believe,its your job to learn,to see the obvious,apreciate it and create your own belief.Find your Own mountain.Do your own work.Not so many conditions put on him and others to prove something to you.Shortcuting on those that must find their mountain to see.You would just like to see what they see,a moving mountain so you can easily believe with little effort needed and THEN you would be willing to believe? That is not believing,its knowing.Create your own belief,or don't.Thats up to you.Another blessing nothingness bestowed upon you is free will.

I have emotions to.I can't,however, pull one out of my pocket nor make it float so we can agree its real.Yet it is.Its there.You can feel it if I show you,but your eyes will fail you.Can be tricked.

Good Luck.

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May 1, 2011 - 4:27 pm
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ok, I know that some may think this is so way out there. Tell me what you think...
Jesus was sent by Lucifer and not god. The "bible" or the old testament was designed for all followers of God to live by, the simple "rules" God gave us. Jesus comes onto the scene saying he is sent by the father in heaven (beware of false profits). It can and has been said the jesus was sent here to trick,fool the followers. By telling people that noone can come to the father except through him,
this goes against the old testament or original bible. "Thou shall have no other gods before me", By having jesus lead most people from the old and true ways to not follow the word of god. therefore are we all destioned to hell for following "jesus" and not god? :wall: :wall: :wall:

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"qmark" wrote: Sir-spams-alot

It's not spam, it's a reasoned argument. Even it it weren't reasoned, it's still not spam.

I have seen what I call signs and miracles done by a person I trust with my life and trust with TRUTH.Never been a trick in them.Its amazing,find 50 4 leave clovers in one yard with your eyes closed? Often as she likes?..David coperfield wishes....Hand her family pictures in and envelope,blind,hidden,behind her back,yet know who is in the picture EVERY TIME for 5 hours straight,just so I could TRY like hell to "break it"..No luck!..Then the pictures went from one person to families,mixtures at holidays.99.99999% accuracy over a 5 hour period?Could even tell me how many in the pic was alive or "not here anymore"...Call it what you like,I saw things that make you question your own sanity "is this dream",yet it doesn't end.And gets stronger all the time...All in ones definition of sign of something bigger than self I suppose,or,just a trick.

Why hasn't he/she gone on to beat the james randy challenge then? There's a million dollars that could easily be won if you're telling the truth and he/she is not employing trickery.

"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."

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May 2, 2011 - 2:41 am
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I consider the Christian God to be suspect. :mrgreen:

"I can conceive of nothing in religion, science, or philosophy, that is anything more than the proper thing to wear, for a while." ~ Charles Fort

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