March 20, 2020
I would like to share in this thread the teachings of a former Methodist minister Arthur Bloomfield, a writer on Bible prophecy, that I believe has some important information regarding future events and UFOs. Although I don't agree with all that he taught, I think he is mostly on the right track.
What makes him fascinating to me, is his books were written between the 1950s and 1970s and he understood many of the changes in the world that would take place and have already taken place. He passed away in 1980. An example of his accurate studies is he gleaned from the Bible that the USSR would break up. It didn't happen in the way he thought it would, but he still knew that it must happen in order for the still future prophecies to be fulfilled. He didn't live to see it happen.
He also wrote a book on global warming and how it connects to Bible prophecy. The book was titled "The Changing Climate" and it was originally published in 1956. Regardless of your opinion on this controversial topic, I find it quite interesting that he wrote this book well before it became a major topic in the world.
But anyway, that's not what I want to dwell on. To the point. What he proposed is that Satan and his angels and also the righteous angels inhabit "outer space", and are responsible for many UFO sightings. He stated that he hesitated to print that opinion in his books for fear of ridicule. As most of us know, you could really hurt your image, career or life in those days, or even today, by making such claims. I think it did hurt the sales of his books, because most who actively study Bible prophecy have never heard of him. And if they did hear of him, they were probably told not to take him seriously and he didn't conform to many popular teachings of modern day prophecy teachers.
He predicted a gradual increase in sightings as we near the "end of the age", and he predicts that UFO disclosure will come as a great shock to the world. But it will be welcomed because the world will be going through a great crisis and great fear at the time.
This is my brief introduction and will soon post some Bloomfield quotes from his books that some of you may find quite interesting. Even if you don't believe the Bible or are a skeptic. Time will tell if his interpretation was accurate or not. Stay tuned.
March 20, 2020
Ok. Here we go.
I want to add a little more detail and set the stage of where Bloomfield is coming from before I quote directly from his books. Not only was he a Methodist minister, but he did conferences and lectured on prophecy around the US for many different denominations. He eventually quit being a minister to study Bible prophecy full time. He actually began writing and publishing in the 1930s. He was also editor of The Prophetic Ensign, a quarterly magazine. He was editor for six years of Higley's Sunday School Commentary.
He also wrote a small book on the Ark of the Covenant published in 1965. He taught that the ark will play a major role in future prophecy and that it will first appear in Ethiopia during a crisis involving the Jewish people. He has found both biblical and historical evidence for the ark being in Ethiopia.
His understanding of the "end of the age" is that it is basically a battle for the possession of the earth by "heavenly forces", that eventually becomes a physical battle. God promised that He will set up His eternal kingdom here. Christ Himself will physically rule on earth. The Bible also says that Satan wants to set up his kingdom here, desiring to be worshipped by both man and angels. This is accomplished, or attempted to be accomplished by Satan's man. The Bible calls him the Beast, the Man of Sin and other names. Most people today label him Antichrist.
The Bible says that Antichrist, who will have a direct connection to Satan, will be the central figure of the "last days" and he is Satan's attempt to control the earth and to prevent the soon return of Christ. Bloomfield taught, and I believe rightly so, that the heavenly places in space are still occupied by angelic beings, both righteous and non-righteous. If you read Isaiah 14, from the beginning of the chapter, you will see that the "fall of Satan" is still future. It's true that Scripture says that Satan was once righteous and has fallen in the past from that holy state, and in that sense Satan has already "fallen." But being cast out of heaven and permanently cast down to the earth has not to this day ever happened.
Reading it in context and from the beginning of the chapter, Isaiah 14 reveals that "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning", is a future taunt that people will say after Lucifer/King of Babylon has been put down permanently at the return of Christ and the world is at rest.
Bloomfield taught that Daniel 12 and Rev. 12 are parallel chapters in that it mentions war in heaven (space) above the earth between the righteous and evil angels, followed by tribulation on earth. Daniel just mentions the archangel Michael "standing up", which is a phrase referring to going to battle. Revelation 12 puts this angelic war into the future when the "Antichrist" has his empire. All those satanic beings will eventually be cast down to the earth. This is not the "disclosure" of beings from space, for the recognition by humanity of beings from space will have occurred before this, at the coming of Antichrist.
Hopefully that wasn't too confusing. But I wanted to let those interested to at least have a picture of what it is Bloomfield is trying to say, before you actually read his own words.
From his book on Daniel "The End of the Days" (1961). Bloomfield is interpreting Daniel 10. He attempts to show how the Bible reveals that events and warfare among angels in the heavenlies have a direct result on the earth, both in the past and will in the future. In regards to the future Bloomfield says...
"All this happened on the earth, but the movement had its inception in heaven. Here is a basic truth that has been quite overlooked in this dispensation because it has not been in evidence in these days of the Spirit. For this reason, heaven again becoming a reality to the people of earth will come as a shock to the world.
The worlds interest in outer space is going to take an unexpected turn when the heavenly silence is broken and the signs in the heavens begin to appear. Satan will break this silence first when he produces the man "whose coming is after the working of Satan". His coming is such a great event in prophecy that it is made the climax of all the visions given Daniel." - Bloomfield
Bloomfield shows biblical reasons why the coming of Antichrist will be to apparently "save" the world. It involves supernatural power "from above" and most likely will be connected with war and whatever else is terrifying the world. It will be a miraculous intervention. This will entice most of the world to worship him and also Satan, who gives him his power.
This is all I can post for today. I know the Bloomfield quote was brief. If you were expecting more, I apologize. Will post more when I can.
March 20, 2020
Bloomfield taught that as things intensify in the world toward the end of the age, everything will be at a climax. From great technologies and advancement in science, to a growing religious interest with the coming of many false prophets, etc. The false prophets can even do miraculous signs and wonders, deceiving many. There will be a threat of world destruction. This is the time Jesus warned about and said, "be not terrified". World destruction will NOT come. Nor will the earth EVER be completely destroyed. So if it ever gets to a point where it appears all hope is lost and that great weapons will wipe everything off the earth, don't fear it. It won't happen.
When we get to this point, this will be Satan's chance to dazzle the world. He will of course use a man to be his tool. This will be the time of "disclosure". In discussing Daniel 8:10-14, which gives details of the rise of who we call Antichrist, Bloomfield states in his 1961 book on Daniel...
"...the prophet [Daniel] is talking about something vastly different from anything that happened historically between the time of the Old Testament and New Testaments. This passage may be difficult, but it is extremely important. It contains the one element of mystery that makes the rise of Antichrist so much different from that of any conqueror that has preceded him.
The details of Antichrist's rise are unbelievable before they happen because Antichrist has his roots in outer space...
The host of heaven [of Daniel 8:10] are the angels of heaven. Some are called fallen angels because they seem to have participated in the fall of Satan, they are Satan's angels. Sometimes people are surprised to find that these fallen angels are still in heaven. The fall has to do with their moral state, not their place of abode...
Heaven is a big place...It is quite certain that the space in the vicinity of the earth is infested by Satan's angels as well as demons of various orders. Prophecy is specific about the fact that the heavens as well as the earth must be cleansed. Both Isaiah and Revelation speak of a new heaven and new earth. This cleansing starts in the heavens but is soon translated to the earth.
Antichrist, whose coming is after the working of Satan, makes contact with the host of heaven. That is when Satan, using the physical properties of Antichrist, becomes a man.
There is no question that Revelation 12 has reference to the same event as Daniel 8:10. "His tail threw the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth...And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" (vs.4, 9). Satan will reign in person on the earth.The little horn will become Satan. How this is accomplished is told in Revelation 13.
Some of the wording here is difficult to translate because it deals with something beyond our comprehension. There are no words for it. This passage, however, is the key to the last days of the age. Scientists may discover the physical characteristics of outer space, but the earth will suddenly come to realize that the heavens are full of living beings who have designs on the earth.
Man is making conquest of outer space, but in so doing, he may be stirring up a nest of hornets. The most devastating realization which the people of the earth will ever experience will come when they suddenly wake up to the fact that, instead of our making conquest of outer space, the beings of outer space are making conquest of the earth..." - Bloomfield "The End of the Days (1961)
If all this is so, then those ufologists and researchers that claim that there is a presence of alien beings here are absolutely correct. This also suggests that there will be some sort of "deal" between some men on the earth and these beings. This will become acknowledged someday. We know that some have evidence that there may already be direct "dealings" happening now and has been possibly going on for decades. That may be true.
So, Bloomfield is claiming that when a world crisis terrifies the whole world, expect a great show of power that comes from space. It will be a combination of an earthly man (Antichrist) along with the fallen angels, specifically Satan, that will get the credit for rescuing the world during its greatest crisis. At first the majority of the world will not believe that it is satanic power that has done this. How could he be "bad" if he just did something so fantastic? Eventually the world will come to realize that it is Satan that gave his power, throne and great authority to the "Beast."- Rev. 13:2. When the trouble is put down, there will come a time of great prosperity the world has ever seen. The age of the "Exaltation of Man" will be in full swing. But that's getting off topic.
March 20, 2020
What exactly happens that brings out the "UFOs" on a large scale so that their reality will no longer be questioned? Bloomfield believed that a great world crisis is coming that is not part of what the Bible calls "the tribulation". This particular crisis is not part of the "Day of the Lord" either. This is a totally separate situation that leads up to the end of the age and those other events. These are "the signs" that we look for that leads up to all the other prophecies. Bloomfield taught that there are basically 3 times zones before the seals and trumpet/vial judgments found in the book of Revelation.
The first of the three time zones, that we are now in, is the buildup to this world crisis. He taught that a slow buildup of terror is more terrifying than a sudden one. It comes on in degrees, always increasing. This is all planned by the satanic forces on purpose. This is to produce a great feeling of peace and safety, when they come, all the greater when the terror is finally put down.
When the horror comes to a head, and it appears that possible world destruction is imminent, then expect what Scripture calls, the coming of the man of sin/lawlessness, with "great power, signs and lying wonders."- 2 Thess. 2:9. This is also referred to as the same time that Daniel says, "When the transgressors have come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up". -Dan. 8:23
Many prophecy teachers claim that the Antichrist cannot come on the scene before the tribulation. Bloomfield says that that teaching is a big mistake, and he has lots of reasons why that is a false teaching. He shows the difference between the "coming" of Antichrist and his "revelation". They are two different events and occur years apart. Antichrist must be in power before the events described during the days of tribulation and the Day of the Lord. Therefore the crisis that produces Antichrist will also occur before then too.
The second time zone is the period of miracles and war conducted by the Antichrist and satanic forces brought on by the crisis. How long this period is, we don't know. But it would have to be rather quick. Expect UFO activity on a grand scale.
Then the third time zone is a time of great world prosperity and peace and the exaltation of man under Antichrist, the hero. Because of the prior events, the monotheistic religions will take a big hit. There will be a great apostasy or a large "falling away" in Christianity caused by the coming of Antichrist. Paganism and idolatry will come back with a vengeance. People will scoff at the idea of the coming of Christ.
It is sometime during this third time zone that the Resurrection/Rapture occurs, on a day that no one knows or expects. The Resurrection is the cause of the battle in the heavens that results in the casting down of the satanic angels. The satanic forces try to prevent it and fail. The tribulation and Day of the Lord follows immediately.
I will quote directly from Bloomfield on some of this in the next post.
March 20, 2020
Bloomfield spoke on these things in several books. I've only been quoting from his 1961 book so far. In Bloomfield's introduction to Daniel 8 in his book "The End of the Days", he states the following...
The Coming of Antichrist
The rise of the Antichrist is one of the most important subjects in prophecy, and yet it is the most difficult to comprehend. This difficulty is caused by the fact that it involves situations and conditions never before experienced. For this reason our conceptions and therefore our expositions are inadequate. When we enter the realm of Antichrist, we feel that something has been added - there is a fourth dimension which, for want of a better name, we may call "outer space." While the earth is preparing for a conquest of outer space, outer space is preparing for a conquest of the earth.
Space, then, is not a vacuum; it is teeming with life. Scientists debate the question of life on other planets, assuming that life can exist only where there are conditions similar to those on earth. But life in outer space is the kind of life that can exist in outer space. Therefore we do not have to have the same conditions; we only have to have a different kind of being. In outer space, beings are not necessarily friendly. Satan has principalities and powers - organized governments. This satanic conquest of the earth has been, for the most part, a spiritual battle. At the end of the age the added feature is that the battle becomes physical. Then Satan will have a personal representative on the earth who will operate with satanic and therefore supernatural power. This supernatural power is sensationally demonstrated by his ability to make war easily and successfully against the most advanced weapons man can devise - even push-button intercontinental missiles, nuclear weapons, or weapons based in space. The greater man's potential for destruction, the more amazing will be Antichrist's almost single handed accomplishment.
December 30, 2019
This is by far the best explanation of what is happening. I understand this and it makes a lot of sense to me. It's very plausible.
To the point of prophets and great thinkers. I wonder why so called prophets don't acknowledge one another or share material?
As I had okay before, I'm from a prophetic teaching background. The prophet I'm familiar with has not mentioned any of the above, always specifically keeping your eyes on Christ.
Wouldn't one expect the prophet they more or less, follow the teachings and interpretations of, point something like this out?
You may say he was false, however, it could easily be pointed out that the others are false.
I guess it comes down to who's teachings follow the Bible and line up perfectly with scriptures.
A prophets teachings must be reflected and line up with scriptures, not adding nor taking away.
March 20, 2020
A prophets teachings must be reflected and line up with scriptures, not adding nor taking away.
I personally don't think anyone has a perfect understanding of prophecy. At least not until we, His Church, are all glorified. I believe that God made Bible prophecy difficult on purpose. Those that say it's "easy" usually have a very limited and shallow understanding of it, IMO. I always tell anyone interested in studying prophecy to question everything and be a skeptic with anyone's teaching, no matter who they are. It's always best to study it right from the Bible. Daniel was told that his prophecies would not be understood until the last days. His prophecies are "sealed up" until the time of the end (Dan. 8:26 ; Dan.12:4,9), then the wise will understand. -Dan. 12:10
With that said, I do however recommend reading Bloomfield's books, even though I don't believe he had it all correct. But I think his overall understanding of prophecy outshines every other prophecy teacher that I'm familiar with. I'm not saying I understand it all either, of course. Usually Bloomfield lets you know where he is assuming or speculating. I'm not familiar with the man you mentioned in the other thread.
One thing that Bloomfield taught was that some Biblical prophecies are worded in such a way that they won't be understood until they actually happen. Then we'll be able to look back and say "so that's what that meant." Some prophecies are really a process of events that take time. Bloomfield would say that a partially fulfilled prophecy is still an unfulfilled prophecy. For instance, even the first coming of Christ was a long process of events. He had to be conceived in Mary. She had to give birth to Him 9 months later. He had to grow to be about 30 years of age before He started His ministry. Then His ministry required 3 and 1/2 years to complete all that needed to be accomplished. All this was included in just His "first coming."
Bloomfield did not consider himself to be a prophet at all. He was only someone who intensely studied Bible prophecy and wrote and lectured on it. In the introduction to his 1975 book, "How to Recognize the Antichrist", he stated...
"We will quote much Scripture. This book is based on the Bible, not on a vision. The Bible is a finished book. God says in Revelation, "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book. If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" (Rev. 22:18).
As the author of this book I have no information not found in the Bible. God has given me no additional visions. I have tried to present the Scriptures in an easy-to-read format. I believe that the Bible is certainly more thrilling and illuminating than anything that can be said about it. "
March 20, 2020
I love reading about the UFO/alien topic from various viewpoints. I love browsing this very website. When first studying this topic, I came to believe in a view that is still currently very popular within Christian circles; that the ufo phenomenon is primarily inter-dimensional and non-physical. As many have stressed for many years, there is a component of supernaturalism and spooky spiritual manifestations that at times accompany the UFO phenomenon. I don't deny that at all. There is no doubt in my mind that it has a direct connection to the so-called "spirit world." But after reading the Bible more in depth, I started to see that that was not the whole picture. Not that I see the "full" picture now.
The common view among Christians is that Satan and demons from another dimension masquerade as aliens from space. This view claims that these evil spiritual beings are supposedly deceiving us into believing there is life out in the physical universe, when that is not true. Most claim that the UFOs themselves are illusions or simply spiritual manifestations from another dimension that are not actually physical. I held to this view in the past too. I do still believe that some of the UFO phenomenon is simply spiritual. I don't rule that out completely. But that is not entirely true of the whole UFO reality.
I came to realize that the "spirit world" is not separate from the physical world. The definitions for the word "Spirit" are, "air, wind, life, soul, mind." These are things we mostly don't see with our eyes. But all these things exist in our own physical creation. There is no necessary rule in the Bible that states that a spirit, of whatever kind, exists in another dimension, and needs an inter-dimensional portal to come into or to roam about the physical creation. What I read in Scripture is that the spiritual is intertwined right here in the visible and physical universe. There is no separation. We find in the Bible certain beings who are disembodied. Some roam the earth, and some are confined. They once had a physical body, but those bodies died. So they are non-corporeal spirits now. Does that mean they must leave the physical world and must now go to some other dimension? There is no evidence in the Bible of that, as far as I can see now.
By studying the angelic bodies, they are said to have a type of physical body, though different from ours. The "sons of God" in Genesis 6, I believe to be angelic beings. They mated with human women, resulting in a hybrid race called Nephilim. It had to be more than just a spiritual act of sexual union. There is some kind of actual physical union that occurred that resulted in a different type of physical offspring. Genesis 6 actually states that these sons of God were physically attracted to the women here. That was the reason for the sexual union. To satisfy their physical desires. See also Jude 6,7 that speaks of certain angels "giving themselves over to fornication."
So I eventually came to accept that the physical nature of this topic is actually quite a major part of this phenomenon. I started realizing this by just simply reading the Bible without putting my own, or others, preconceived ideas into passages that speak of angelic appearances. I started to find a few others in Christianity who were coming to the same conclusions that I was, or who had already came to the views that I was only now discovering. (i.e. A. Bloomfield and I.D.E. Thomas, etc.).
Many Christian leaders are warning us that a great UFO deception is coming. And I agree with that. But not in the same way that they mean. The deception is not that there are real beings from space that come to the earth. They are real and they are from space. The deception is spiritual and religious deception. It will lead to the apostasy of the last days, also called the "great falling away". And because prophecy will not be fulfilled the way it has been commonly taught, many so-called Bible believers will believe that the Bible is false and can't be trusted. Which, unfortunately is not true. The coming deception, when it comes, will actually fulfill the prophecy that God will send the world a "strong delusion". The Dragon, or Satan, is said to "deceive the whole world" or "leads the whole world astray" (Rev. 12:9) in the last days. But God gave us a book, almost 2000 years old, telling us to expect this.
Keeping in mind that the coming of Antichrist is connected to the evidence of non-earthly beings participating with men, Bloomfield, speaking on Daniel 7 and the rise of Antichrist, says the following in his book, "The End of the Days" (1961) P. 117
"The more effective our modern weapons become, the more amazing will be this man's military marvels - they are "out of this world."...
His coming is "after the working of Satan" and his power will be due to his super knowledge. This is no ordinary individual. Man's knowledge is reaching tremendous heights and depths. Today this knowledge is being directed toward implements of destruction. So great has been the progress (?) that no one in the world is safe. Man, and hence Satan, can now actually wipe life off the face of the earth. If this is not the end of the age, how can we go beyond it? We have reached the ultimate.
The world is coming right up to the brink of disaster. It is Satan's big chance. He will rule the world if he can, destroy it if he must. Antichrist will "save" the world. He is "the" man of his day. He will know something beyond what the scientists have done. He is able to make war successfully, suddenly, dramatically, almost singlehandedly, against the best that science can produce. Scientists will produce the ultimate weapon and Antichrist will go them one better. "And they worshipped the beast saying...who is able to make war with him?" (Rev. 13:4) ; "Their [his] horsemen shall come from far: they shall fly" (Habakkuk 1:8).
December 30, 2019
You've given me great insight. Really appreciate it. This is still the best biblical view point I've ever read. I would love to use this for conversation for people who would listen.
I can almost believe your viewpoint. I'm still in the boat that UFOs ARE of alien origin not angels, at least to me.
I also take into account all the great ancient sites and structure around the world. In a time when no one had means t to communicate, there are pyramids, massive stone structures and depictions of people not like us, they're ancestors came "from the stars".
I think of myself as an ancient astronaut theorist.