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March 27, 2012
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"This statement in the metalanguage is unprovable in the metalanguage."

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April 1, 2012
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Christopher Langan's reasoning for the set of all sets paradox only works if there is a largest finite number... :think:

http://mathforum.org/library/d.....68592.html

But whatever large finite number that can be computed, you can always add + 1 :ugeek:

April 1, 2012
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Right, every natural number has a successor...

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April 1, 2012
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Circles are abstract representations of observable phenomena.

"I can conceive of nothing in religion, science, or philosophy, that is anything more than the proper thing to wear, for a while." ~ Charles Fort

April 1, 2012
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"at1with0" wrote: Right, every natural number has a successor...

Do derivative numbers exist?

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April 1, 2012
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Call me crazy but I think all numbers have equal ontological primacy.

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Doesn't that imply reality is innately multiplicitous in forms/functions?

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April 1, 2012
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I don't know if this answers your questions but numbers still exist (or don't exist) regardless of whether or not there are things to count.

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April 2, 2012
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Just posted this in the song thread but
thought :think: maybe it should go here
as well. Dreamer usually cuts me slack
but if it doesn't apply, I'll delete it. πŸ™‚

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"at1with0" wrote: I don't know if this answers your questions but numbers still exist (or don't exist) regardless of whether or not there are things to count.

If there are things to count then numbers must exist.

Any discernible difference between "things" is a number.

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