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Ghosts, apparitions and spiritual manifestations.
April 12, 2019
3:08 am
John Franks
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John Franks said
I think keeping things truly in question is the best method for those things which are impossible to answer with any fair level of legitimacy or credibility. 
When you start talking about other dimensions or multiverses; you are mixing dirty science with spirituality - and neither should be incorporated into the same viewpoint if either are to be taken seriously. The dirty sciences are those things which only exist in a computer model and cannot be proven anywhere else in our universe as being true or real. Multi-verses, alternate dimensions, dark matter, just as a few examples. Spiritual views, experiences, beliefs, or 'facts' are considered at the most, pseudosciences by the scientific community - all carrying the burden of proof through the scientific method. Science derails the spiritual. However, creating computer models which cannot be proven outside of the software program they were engineered in; these models must also stand up to the scientific method, and they cannot - thus are also pseudoscience, whether or not they slap the label 'theoretical' on it or not.

We know so very little about our own dimension, universe, and existence as it is - yet we try to grasp or comprehend outside of that, really amounts to nothing but the workings of madness. 
There is no reason that everything we experience - cannot exist within our own dimension , and place in space in harmonious coexistence. Gravity is a force, invisible but yet ever present - how many other forces are out there which share the same categorization? With us having but one observation point in the cosmos, earth - how are we to assign anything outside of those observations with any level of credibility?

Science is science when it deals with the natural world, and no amount of evidence will satisfy scientists about the supernatural world. Nor can science touch on the supernatural world, because it is not readily available to poke and prod in a petri dish and be scrutinized scientifically.
The endgame of mixing science with spirituality will result in the same thing; providing some scientific way of disproving any god. And while everyone who has a spiritual view on what God really is, which may be considerably different from one person to the next - one thing is constant, God is something beyond our scope of understanding from any facet, or from any level of comprehension. And while science may be able to do alot with their observations, if there is an unseen force out there , with intelligence - hiding in the backdrop of what we know - science will never be able to touch it.  

<<Continuing because response posted before I was complete>>

The one thing that science is willing to admit- is energy ; which would include energy from living organisms ; never actually dies, but rather is transformed. The real question at that point, is does that energy keep cohesion, and does it contain any level of consciousness. Science has studied this, and there is a great deal of compelling evidence out there which supports that it does, through NDEs, and through cases of children remembering in great detail, their previous lives. However, because the subjects under scrutiny are considered 'dead' and revived - or have been dead for many years, regardless of their experiences , the science community will always be forced to find an alternative answer to those experiences - because if not, they are forced to accept something greater than science can explain.

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