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New to filing FOIA's, but think i am on to something
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Rich Petrillo
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February 25, 2018 - 1:34 pm
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I sent you a message about this also. But i filed a FOIA on the AATIP, but under a diff name, the name Elizondo gave to Turkish Media, it should be the AATDP. And the response i got is totally different than your's filing under the name given to the US Media. My request will be filled, but just longer than the 20 days. I just filed a 3rd one using the name i have been using, and was very specific to only want the info that is already declassified, like the third Video that the NYT supposedly already has. if they have it, we should be able to get it. But i have shot's of the totally different response's i got from the one's you received. The Program i listed exist's according to them, but for one of three reason's it will be delayed. 

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I am asking because the response's i have got, are totally different than your's that are Posted. I think it is saying that the different Name i used is actually correct. And it is different than what you said the Name is on C2C Sun Night. 

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Hi Rich,

I did receive your message. However, that is actually their standard "interim" response they sent to all requested when a request is received 🙂

Hope that helps!

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OK, so the letter's i received are the "interim" response, so i may still get a letter saying that "no such program exist's"? In Turkish Media Luis said the Program was called "Advanced Air-Traffic Detection Program" so i filed using that name instead of the variation's that the US Media had hoping for better luck. After i filed my first one for all Data, Vid's, and Document's related to the AATDP and got the Letter stating it would take longer than 20days. I then filed a second one for nothing but the Name of the Person who is currently running the Program. They then e-mailed me asking if i wanted to "modify" my first request, and i said no, i want to file a second. Then i got the Letter i sent you on FB. So now i have filed a third one, for only any and all info that has already been "scrubbed" and has had all "sources and methods" removed already. For instance, the story and Video that Jim Semivan said the NY Times supposedly already has.

  EDIT : Filing one for a "1910 Form" that Elizondo mentioned on C2C had to be filed to get the Video's declassified for a "community of interest". That is how he worded it on the Show. He also mentioned DOD regulation's 5230.09 and 5230.29 that he had to follow to get them declassified. I am still new to filing and am learning as i go, using element's from some of your posted filing's as a template. I will share any info i get. 

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Yes, that is a standard response.

Sadly, i have been in the hospital. I was interview on Coast to Coast the night Luis Elizondo was, but was put in the hospital shortly thereafter and just got out. I didn't get a chance to hear his interview, yet, but know he did share a few more details.

I will be filing additional FOIAs, but please feel free to post here what you get as well 🙂

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 Well, another Month has passed and still have not received a "no record's found" response on any of them in that Name. And i am sure you may have noticed that Steven Greer "Tweeted" about them today also. I sent him (and other's) Email's to just get some more Eyes on the situation, and get some more opinions on it all. The FOIA People told me to call the Agency's i filed for the info from. So tomorrow i start on that adventure. Let ya' know.

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I wish you and Dr. Greer the best of luck, but I have no idea what the controversy is. The DOD has already gone on the record that AATIP stands for Advanced Aviation Threat Identification program, the program was real, and they are putting DIA as the office responsible for releasing records.

I am still fighting the "no records" response -- but I think this controversy behind the name only being printed in the Turkish media is just due to a translation error.

No one is fighting about the program's existence...

But, alas, you already know my thoughts on it. I offer it to others here on the forum who aren't aware of my responses. The fact that Dr Greer tweeted about it does not mean much... but, hey, I love to be wrong, especially about things like this that I am skeptical about -- so I will wait (just not holding my breath).

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