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Blacklisted by Apollohoax, Cosmoquest and StraightDope for proving the Lunar Hoax.
August 11, 2018
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So the article listed above claims the lunar surface is radioactive.  So radioactive in fact tat it raises background radiation in lunar orbit 30 to 40%.  Consider that for a moment.  If the lunar surface is radioactive to that extent can we really expect astronauts to smell and taste lunar dust?  Would it be practical to track that radioactive dust into the crew quarters?  Wouldn't they need an airlock and decontamination chamber?  Why are the Space suits not radioactive?  Why are the lunar samples not radioactive?  Why can no one answer these questions?  Inquiring minds want to know...

August 11, 2018
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Apollo missions have not undergone any major space radiation contingency.
However, the development of spacecraft dosimetry systems, the use of a space radiation
surveillance network, and the availability of individuals with a thorough knowledge

of the space radiation environment have assured that any contingency would be recognized
immediately and would be coped with in a manner most expedient for both crewmember
safety and mission objectives.
Routine radiation-protection problems dealing with manmade radiation sources
have been solved by using standard health-physics procedures. Spacecraft
radioluminescent-light-source problems were solved by improvement in shielding and
containment of the promethium-147 isotope. It has been shown on the Apollo missions
that the spacecraft and its crewmen have successfully avoided the large radiation doses
that, before the Apollo missions, had been cited as a possible deterrent to manned
space flight. Radiation doses to Apollo crewmen have been significantly lower than
the yearly average of 5 rem set by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission for workers
who use radioactive materials in factories and institutions across the United States.
More significantly, Apollo astronaut doses have been negligible in terms of any medical
or biological effects that could impair the function of man in the space environment.
Close coordination among mission planners, the Radiation Safety Committee, the Radiological
Health Team, and the Radiation Constraints Panel ensures that radiation exposures
under nominal conditions will continue to remain minimal.

August 11, 2018
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greeny2,

Your last post is merely chaff designed to distract.  Word salad that has little to do with the issues I raise.  Let me list them again so there can be no confusion.

1.  There is no place in the solar system that has a GCR radiation level less than .24 mgy/day except on earth and/or in low earth orbit.  Apollo 11 mission dose was .22 mgy/day.

2.  The lunar surface is so radioactive it raises radiation levels in lunar orbit 30 to 40% above background GCR radiation.

3.  GCR can only be effectively shielded by copious amounts of hydrogenous materials as as heavy metals induce secondary Bremsstrahlung Radiation that can be even more dangerous.

4.  The Apollo Lunar crafts had no hydrogenous radiation shielding.

5. If the lunar surface s as radioactive as they claim is it realistic to believe astronauts smelled and tasted lunar dust?

6.  Is it realistic to believe that they would track radioactive dust in to the crew cabin? 

7.  Why were the samples brought back not radioactive and why do private citizens have radioactive moon rocks.

8.  Why are the space suits from lunar missions paraded around the country in schools and librarys when they should be radioactive.

9.  The Orion EFT launched in 2014 flew 3600 miles into the Van Allen belt.  The Orion incorporated the latest and greatest radiation shielding technology and it received a considerably higher dose rate than the Apollo claimed to have received.  How can that be when the Apollo  had far inferior radiation shielding?

 

August 12, 2018
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Consider this:

ISS-Tissue Equivalent Proportional Counter (TEPC) during EFT-1 on December
5, 2014 between 12:07 UTC and 16:30 UTC (4 hours, 27 minutes) was 0.015 mGy.
0.015 mGy/267 minutes * 60 min/hr * 24 hr/day = .0809 mGy/day
8.33 days *.0809 mGy/day = .674 mGy. Compare this to the Apollo 11 daily mission dose of .22 mGy/day
The ISS has shielding a magnitude better yet would receives a higher daily mission dose than the Apollo missions to the moon should it venture into the VAB.

The Orion's radiation detectors recorded 17.9 mGy on the right detector and
15.7 mGy/ on the left dector which is an average of 16.8 mGy for a 267 minute mission of which only
2 hrs and 17 minurtes where actually in the Vann allen belt.
if we use the mission time of 267 minutes then the hourly dose rate is
16.8 mGy/267 min = .0629 mGy/minute
Now if we assume that the ever slowing Apollo 11 took 240 minutes to transit the 3700 miles of the Van Allen Belt
then we see that .0629 mGy/min * 240 min * 2(two trips) = 30.202 mGy

Extrapolating out to the 8.33 days of the Apollo mission it can be seen that
30.202 mGy/8.33 days = 3.63 mGy/day mission dose.

If the Orion had traveled the same route as the Apollo to the moon the Van Allen belt would add
3.63 mGy/day to the mission exposure rate. No Apollo mission has anywhere near this amount and this
amoount does not include GCR or lunar orbit and lunar surface components of the total radiation exposure.

You can see that no Apollo mission ever left LEO.

August 12, 2018
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You misunderstand!  I was finished with your stupidity when I told you, you are out of gas, but you just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself. No wonder you are kicked off every site you go to, if that isn't also a lie too. Who knows and who cares!

That quote was provided by you, in your very first reply! You did not even recognize it, because you do not even read your own links.  Proven wrong by your own information you did not read. 

Too bad the internet is full of people like you. Idiots ruin a good thing for everyone. Pretty sad. 

I'm done with this nonsense. 

August 12, 2018
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greeney2 said
You misunderstand!  I was finished with your stupidity when I told you, you are out of gas, but you just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself. No wonder you are kicked off every site you go to, if that isn't also a lie too. Who knows and who cares!

That quote was provided by you, in your very first reply! You did not even recognize it, because you do not even read your own links.  Proven wrong by your own information you did not read. 

Too bad the internet is full of people like you. Idiots ruin a good thing for everyone. Pretty sad. 

I'm done with this nonsense.   

Greeney2,  It is not like to provided scintillating debate and thought provoking commentary.  You brought noting to the table.  You are a tool lacking in imagination and intellectual integrity.  I am glad you have bowed out.  I was feeling bad about the spanking you were receiving.  Now hopefully your antithesis shows up.  A person with a backbone and the ability to work through simple math problems.

August 12, 2018
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You seriously need help! 

August 12, 2018
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greeney2 said
You seriously need help!   

What I need is someone with a intrinsic ability to shed years  of indoctrination and solve simple math problems.  I grow weary of the mental zombies that populate these conspiracy sites.

August 12, 2018
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Where are all the Space Experts?  No one to refute the simple math of my assertions?  Come now, you have been denying the Lunar Hoax for years.  Surely in your vast arsenal of canned responses there is a nugget that could bring pause to my diatribe.  Bueller?  Buelller?  Anyone?

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Nunya Bidness said
Where are all the Space Experts?  No one to refute the simple math of my assertions?  Come now, you have been denying the Lunar Hoax for years.  Surely in your vast arsenal of canned responses there is a nugget that could bring pause to my diatribe.  Bueller?  Buelller?  Anyone?  

Look, I backed off because like I said, debates like this are a waste of time. If you consider that some kind of victory lap with your theory, cool.

As the moderator and OWNER of this site, I draw the line when people have a theory, and antagonize those into a fight/debate.  So, consider this your only warning. If you continue to badger me, other users, or just throw out challenges to people, go find another forum.  That is, one that you aren't already banned from.

You really should stop for a moment, and ask yourself why you keep getting banned. Occam's razor -- it's either you, and you alone, are onto something so big, we are all lemmings and droids who scoff at such truth, but you and you alone could change the world and the reality of humans landing on the moon - if and only if - someone listens to you.  Or, quite possibly, you're just rude, wrong and no one cares to waste the time.

You know.. whichever.

Consider this topic locked. If anyone would like me to reopen it for discussion, either create a new thread, or contact me at contact@theblackvault.com.

Until then -- shape up, or ship out... and ship out with whatever level of radiation that suits you.

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