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Blacklisted by Apollohoax, Cosmoquest and StraightDope for proving the Lunar Hoax.
August 10, 2018
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John Greenewald said
You have an awful way of debating, to be honest.

How many sites did you say you were banned from again?

Your ego may just be too big for digital forums -- you know -- having this unmatched knowledge of the entire galaxy to make statements like you did above.

Good luck with that.  

No one on this site has debated me yet.  Some have declared their superiority because of their employment and others have questioned the validity of questioning something that anchored in their indoctrination and obviously beyond questioning but no one has debated me, yet...

August 10, 2018
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Nunya Bidness said No one on this site has debated me yet.  Some have declared their superiority because of their employment and others have questioned the validity of questioning something that anchored in their indoctrination and obviously beyond questioning but no one has debated me, yet...  

Probably because no one cares to fight your point.

I find it interesting though that my spam protection software flags every one of your posts as SPAM... because (not by me) your IPs address(es) are flagged as forum spammers by the software package I use. No I won't post your IP publicly, but if you'd like me to do so privately, I will, but my point is you come here spouting off conspiracy claims, you choose to ignore every shred of evidence in front of you, you want to discount and discredit the thousands of people that paved the way for Apollo and the men and women who made it all happen, all because you say we didn't land on the moon.

Now, when no one cares to sit down and rebut you're post, you are claiming victory of some kind? Cool -- you win. We didn't land on the moon.  We all kosher now?

BTW: I've met many astronauts growing up and while I have been doing public speaking around the country, including Dr. Edgar Mitchell, the 6th man to walk on the moon. In fact, I met him on multiple occasions.  I have photographic proof of me right beside him as we spoke at the same conference... but, since you aren't into photos, my guess is you'll deny that's real too.

I find it laughable that people like you come to a forum interested in the truth, and when no one cares to play ball with your theory, you consider that victory. You also prefaced your post with the title about how you've been blacklisted by multiple forums. 

Don't you think if you had any credibility, point or real evidence, that some people would be jumping at the bit to defend you and create crusades around sites suppressing the truth? Or do you think it's possible, JUST SLIGHTLY, that you're wrong?

As an investigator, I have a choice. I have met people and shook hands with those who walked on the moon. I have met the men and women who worked in the Apollo era, but moreso, people who worked in the space program after, making leaps and strides BECAUSE of the FACT we walked on the moon.  I can either dismiss ALL of them (which includes my father) because they are all lying or have been duped to think they did something they didn't... not 1 or 2, or 10 or 20, but according to you, but I should dismiss the THOUSANDS of people involved in this as liars and frauds - and rather, I should believe you? That's my choice?

Hard choice.

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August 10, 2018
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I cannot imagine a scenario of deceit in which the perpetrators did not put on a front and go through the motions.  If there were no Buzz Aldrins and Ed Mitchells then that would be unusal.  As in all magic ticks they look real.  It is when you look behind the curtain things start to unravel.  You are preoccupied with the flash and glitter while the truth is ignored.  I know you want to take the path of least resistance and simply follow the rut you find yourself in but research the matter.  If I am wrong you accomplish two things.  The first and foremost is you deflate my enormous ego and secondly you strengthen your own position and knowledge.  It is a win-win for you if I am wrong.  But if in fact I am right then it is still a win for you for then you can shed a lifetime of indoctrination and break free from the herd of mediocrity.  Take the plunge.  Rub my nose in it.  Feel free to call upon all the icons of the industry.  I dare you...

August 10, 2018
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Preoccupied by the flash and glitter? LOL...

You dare me?

Wow, such big words. Anyhow, you may want to double check 1) my point about the magnitude of such a cover up and 2) think long and hard why forums keep banning you.

I am always up for a debate... but people like you? Are a dime a dozen and not worth it.

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August 10, 2018
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John Greenewald said
Preoccupied by the flash and glitter? LOL...
You dare me?
Wow, such big words. Anyhow, you may want to double check 1) my point about the magnitude of such a cover up and 2) think long and hard why forums keep banning you.
I am always up for a debate... but people like you? Are a dime a dozen and not worth it.  

I am reminded of an alligator, all mouth and short on legs.  You are incapable of debating the issue and concern yourself with veiled threats.  I am no virgin and have been banned by lesser men.  I am unconcerned with the magnitude of the magic trick.  I am only concerned with the facts and you have none.  You parade around your exposure to liars as if that changes the truth.  In my mind unless you have facts then you are no more than a sycophant looking to please the perpetrators of the greatest deception this nation has ever known.  Patriotism and intellectual integrity should be your motivation yet you are short of both.  Prove me wrong  or step aside and let more worthwhile debaters step forward.

August 10, 2018
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I debated you, found an account for the Van Alden Belt,  I provided you with a coherent assessment of the Van Alden theory that tells the entire story.  AS I said, the vehicle was shielded, and they devised a solution for what was a known problem way ahead of time. It was not an unknown they just flew into, killing someone, but conspiracy theorists, who have no idea of the technological parts of Apollo think they found a conspiracy.  One stupid theory thought the lack of a crater under the LEM was proof they never landed and it was fake. A coherent step by step explanation by Buzz Aldrin much like the video I just gave you, explained why no such crater would be made at all. He told of how the engine would throttle down, and feather the thrust purposely to set gently down with an angle of attack to not kick up debris.  Another preposterous stupid claim, proven wrong. The Van Alden Belt to someone with no expertise is a fine example too.  Its like convincing someone the WTC collapse was explainable, and planted explosives were ridiculous. 

You have offered nothing to give yourself credibility, but insult who replies to you. There is a reason 3 separate places have banned you which you do not tell about.I would like to know your posting names for those 3 sights, to research what you said there and why you were kicked off. I'm sure non of it was deleted.  

As I said, and I know John will agree you will never get banned for you opinion here or viewpoint even if its wrong or just plain stupid. As you can see you are still here. 

I find it interesting, for someone searching for truth, and for wanting to debate, why you would not welcome finding someone who came from such a company as I did for 30 years, that built the Saturn V engines. You have no idea if I was a janitor or a major engineer in my programs, you did not care, nor had no interest in a real conversation from someone involved with such a company as Rocketdyne. Your agenda is certainly not finding real facts.  

You dismissed John just telling you of his meetings with many Astronauts with the Blackvault, you did not care to hear any of it. By the way in my years at Rocketdyne, I have talked to and met numerous Shuttle pilots an commanders. They came regularly.  I've seen Crippen and Young, Engle and Truly, Sally Ride, several NASA heads, The governor or California, and was 10 feet from President Clinton. To anyone actually in these companies, and I worked with many from Mercury, Gemini and Apollo, if you ever would have been to our open houses, actually seen the level of what we did, you would understand how ridiculous all these faking it theories are.  

I have no idea who you are or where you are from, but your attitude defines you and your agenda. As for this idea, you are out of gas.  

August 10, 2018
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Greeney2,

My pedigree and my past are not the issue here.  The issue is straight forward and succinct.  I claim that the only place in the solar system that has a radiation levels of less than .24 mgy/day is on earth or in low earth orbit.  It matters not how many astronauts or scientist you know.  Unless you can refute that claim with facts then you are simply just another member of the peanut gallery.  A sycophant and fan boy heavily indoctrinated and lacking in intellectual integrity.  I am not impressed.  Show me facts and figures and yank me of this pedestal or be silent while grown people debate. 

August 10, 2018
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I know I come across as arrogant and obnoxious but I grow weary of the condescending crap.  I am not impressed by who you know and what you do.  The only thing that catches my attention is hard, irrefutable data.  Just the facts.  Your opinion means nothing to me nor does your pedigree.  Show me me the numbers.

August 10, 2018
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It does not seem that difficult to me.  It is a simple matter.  In your shoes I would simply pull up the correct value of Galactic Cosmic Radiation and the shielding values of the Apollo crafts and prove the assertion wrong.  It would have been surgical.  I'm pretty sure I wouldn't hold up my credentials and opinions as the only evidence of my position but I roll like that.

August 11, 2018
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