Schwarzenegger | General Discussion Topics | Forum


Please consider registering

sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —

— Match —

— Forum Options —

Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_TopicIcon
May 19, 2011
7:52 pm
Forum Posts: 10273
Member Since:
April 9, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Just my opinion but why the timing of all this is a big question? IMHO Arnold may have hit a snag keeping it hushed up any longer, but maybe its a lot more simple than that. Arnold seems to have a real image problem, so great that anyone can see his obsession with appearance, and the fact his daughter just wrote a book about body image tells a lot. Maria has always looked gaunt, maybe due to Arnolds obsession of watching her every pound like a tyrant. I also think he ran his course with politics and along with all the elder Kennedys passed away now, his own Elected ambitions over, he is washing his hands of that part of his life. He has already been traveling worldwide, getting back into his "comeback", seeking the old world thats long gone for him. Part of that is sheding his current life, and this will do it for sure. Let the chips fall, get rid of the old life with Maria, his political life and use for the Kennedy clan no longer needed, better known as another mid-life crisis. I also hate to say it, or be unkind to the housekeeper, and keeping in mind, 15 years ago she looked different, but come on, the maid???

I would have expected Arnold to have set his bar a little higher for the sake of a fling. Go figure, a person who probably could have had a line 3 miles long to pick, another the President of the USA with Monica, and a third this week a major banking figure and once ran for France Presidency, all find the bottom of the barrel so to speak. Not saying that to demean the women, but even the Kennedys set their sites on Marilyn Monroe. Too bad Arnold couldn't just fad away, age gracefully, and be the real role model he could have been. Now he is as dispized as Jesse James and Charley Sheen.

The Schwarzenegger Kids: Coping with Parental Betrayal in the Public Eye
ShareretweetEmailPrintBy BONNIE ROCHMAN Bonnie Rochman – Thu May 19, 10:10 am ET
Now that Arnold Schwarzenegger has officially confirmed he's not much for monogamy, it's hard to know who's got the rawer end of the deal: his four children with Maria Shriver or the young teen boy conceived with the family housekeeper.

Infidelity is hard enough for kids to process, but when a dalliance yields a secret half-sibling, it complicates matters significantly, raising questions of love and loyalty. It's still unclear whether the newly acknowledged son - whose gap-toothed smile and square jaw make him a miniature, if less-muscled, dead ringer for his biological father - knew that Schwarzenegger was his father. On Monday, former housekeeper Mildred Patricia Baena told the Los Angeles Times that her then-husband had fathered her son.

(More on The Caligula Effect: Why Powerful Men Compulsively Cheat)

But Schwarzenegger's admission of paternity scuttled that carefully constructed fabrication. On Wednesday, CNN reported that the son he fathered with Baena was born within days of Schwarzenegger and Shriver's youngest son, who is 13. If the boy knew the truth of his parentage all along, he must be reeling, partly humiliated, partly relieved to know the truth. If he had no idea, he's probably trying to synthesize the truth into the last 13 or so years of his existence.

"What if this kid is reading all this stuff and finding out he's a heart-break just by being born?" says Linda Cavallero, an associate professor of clinical psychiatry at the University of Massachusetts Medical School. "That's a kick in the head."

The calculations are not all that different from those of a child who learns in his teens that he's adopted - with the caveat that in this case, of course, the boy finds out that his mother's former employer is doubling as dad.

"It requires a redefinition of identity," says Richard Warshak, the author of Divorce Poison: How to Protect Your Family from Bad-Mouthing and Brainwashing and a clinical professor of psychology at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.

There's likely lots of re-defining going on among Schwarzenegger's four children with Shriver too. While CNN reports that they weren't blindsided by the news, having been briefed "methodically" beforehand by their mother, it's undeniable that children of any age need stability. The maelstrom of the past few days has provided anything but. To add to the otherworldliness of the situation, the Schwarzenegger children probably already know their half-sibling; it's hard to imagine Baena having worked for their family for 20 years without their meeting her son.

(More on The Case for Letting Your Partner's Eye Wander)

Now, all five kids - ranging in age from 13 to 21 - are left trying to piece back together the notion of parental respect. It's a process that any child who's been publicly disappointed or humiliated by a parent - think adulterer, Ponzi schemer, porn star - has to go through.

Patrick Schwarzenegger, for example, seems to have been sufficiently embarrassed. He changed his last name - temporarily and on Twitter, at least - to his mother's. Posting on Twitter as Patrick Shriver, the 17-year-old repurposed a line from "Where'd You Go?," a Fort Minor song: "Some days you feel like s - , some days you want to quit and just be normal for a bit, yet i love my family till death do us apart."

Meanwhile, his older sister, Katherine, tweeted: "This is definitely not easy but I appreciate your love and support as i begin to heal and move forward in life. I will always love my family!"

The younger kids - Schwarzenegger's youngest child with Shriver is 13 - are apt to be more shocked because parents are still seen as all-powerful by early adolescents; older children, meanwhile, are less naÏve. They can appreciate the complexity of the situation.

"They can understand that somebody might be mostly good but do some things that aren't good," says Cavallero. "Where to the 13-year-old it could be much more shocking, the older ones are kind of like, This sucks, but at least they can get their heads around it."

(More on Can Your Mate's Voice Be a Clue to Potential Cheating?)

Mostly, though, it's important for the children to realize that although Schwarzenegger disappointed his family, he's not the enemy. "Their task is to put this new information into the entire context of their history with their dad," says Warshak. "Parents are not defined only by their worst mistakes. These children have lost an idealized image of their father, and it would be best if they don't lose the ability to love and receive love from him."

That's more likely to happen if Shriver can avoid encouraging their kids to take sides. Her brief statement on Tuesday did that, highlighting her role as their caregiver. "As a mother, my concern is for the children," she said. "I ask for compassion, respect and privacy as my children and I try to rebuild our lives and heal."

Of course, the public lens trained on the whole fiasco doesn't make things any easier: it can be difficult to privately assimilate their family's new reality when the entire world is weighing in.

Cavallero couldn't help but think of Chelsea Clinton soldiering through the Monica Lewinsky incident, recalling her as "crying and saying, Why is this happening to me?"

"As a psychologist, I think about children in situations like that," says Cavallero. "When he was president, she got a lot of benefits. But she also experienced the opposite. Anyone else's father who is unfaithful doesn't have to go on TV."

View this article on

Most Popular on

May 19, 2011
8:11 pm
Forum Posts: 9870
Member Since:
April 9, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

it took everything I had not to start this convo

but since you did

everybdy knows how I feel on all this


I absolutely adoer Maria Shriver. Have much admiration and respect for her. I believe she will excel in the future. She has nowhere to go but up , up and away (an amazing woman, her)
My heart goes out to her and her kids, and alos to the 'love' for him and his piece on the side..whatever
this crap is all too common these days

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

May 20, 2011
12:51 am
Forum Posts: 280
Member Since:
August 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Just goes to show when you associate with the Kennedy's you come away tainted...

We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm

May 20, 2011
1:50 am
Forum Posts: 10273
Member Since:
April 9, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I'm with you Bionic, Love Arnolds Movies, but the movie guy isn't the real guy, like we see so many times. Maria is a class act, and not only did she give up her own career, don't forget she was the Katie Couric of her day. She also went to bad for the SOB while he had already had this child with the maid, saving his election bid and womanizing complaints. Something coming up in tonights news about him. Arnolds son already changed his name to Shriver this week.

Forum Timezone: America/Los_Angeles

Most Users Ever Online: 288

Currently Online:
32 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

greeney2: 10273

bionic: 9870

Lashmar: 5289

tigger: 4576

rath: 4297

DIss0n80r: 4161

sandra: 3858

frrostedman: 3815

Wing-Zero: 3278

Tairaa: 2842

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 2

Members: 24595

Moderators: 0

Admins: 2

Forum Stats:

Groups: 8

Forums: 31

Topics: 8921

Posts: 124023

Newest Members:

Ken, Rosco Jones, herpeseraser, Troy, Aurora, Harry, troglor, Blue Moon, Astraios, Ellen

Administrators: John Greenewald: 629, blackvault: 1776