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February 15, 2012 - 5:56 am
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Yeah cuz that would be forcing indoctrination hehe :mrgreen:

"it is easy to grow crazy"

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"at1with0" wrote: Whether greeney used or uses birth control or Viagra has absolutely no bearing on the contention that this mandate places a limit on religious freedom of those in the business of health insurance.

Religious freedom as no place in health and in politics. Because religious dogmas are pure invention from the church.
If we were back 50 years ago Catholics would have 10 kids live in poverty and could not afford education.
Abortions would be done clandestinely and families would be ostracize because of teen pregnancy or pregnancy out of wedlock.
Could you imagine 10 kids per family in this double recession.
The church is insane not promoting condomes

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February 15, 2012 - 6:09 pm
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I agree with the spirit of what you're saying but not with the presentation. I do think that the topic of religious freedom is and should be involved/discussed in health insurance and politics. Forcing health insurance companies to cover contraception might infringe on the religious freedom of the people in that business but I stand by my original point which was that their religious freedom probably already is infringed upon by forcing them to cover homosexuals and any unrepentant sinners and non-religious people.
Which is not to say that I necessarily agree with the government regulating, ie having laws about, the health insurance industry.

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"at1with0" wrote: I agree with the spirit of what you're saying but not with the presentation. I do think that the topic of religious freedom is and should be involved/discussed in health insurance and politics. Forcing health insurance companies to cover contraception might infringe on the religious freedom of the people in that business but I stand by my original point which was that their religious freedom probably already is infringed upon by forcing them to cover homosexuals and any unrepentant sinners and non-religious people.
Which is not to say that I necessarily agree with the government regulating, ie having laws about, the health insurance industry.

The truth is that many Catholic workers hired by the church would like to have paid contraceptives plus other things.
Catholic workers are like the rest of workers that are paid by their employers.
The Health industry and the government is for everybody.
Homosexuals sinners are not unrepentant sinners like you claim, they are just homosexuals instead of being heterosexuals.
What is wrong in having the government getting people with more coverage on contraception. Catholics have sex a lot like everybody else and they are not necessarily married..
Nobody needs a crutch like the church.
I rather have the government doing things for the people that a church always with the wond of intolerance fear and hell

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