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Let's Stop Unfairly Profiling Muslim Men!
May 3, 2013
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Question 14 for Chiselray!

What would you call someone who give information to those 17-40 year old Muslims, and ignores a governments plea to not send or post sensitive life threatening, and confidential information?

May 4, 2013
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extremists are extreme..aholes are aholes..put the two together and..ack.
Most of the world, regardless of race, religion, sex, culture, creed is not an extreme ahole, and most of the world should not be judged and seen as such.
Most of the world is just people..living their lives..doing their thing. Not trying to hurt anybody.

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

May 4, 2013
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I'm Fbing that! 😛

Willie Wonka quotes..
What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why? Are you having fun?
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams

May 4, 2013
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"at1with0" wrote: Wow, a rationalization for having slaves...If the masters are not jerks then it's not so bad...Didn't expect that but it's probably not that different from a Islamic-fundie to have a well-developed rationalization for enacting commandments in that book.

The passage in question clearly allows slaves. Would you rather be a slave, even a well-treated one, than dead? I'm not equating the two, I am comparing the two.

It basically says you can take slaves that aren't from your political construct. Koran says you should kill infidels.

Both books have black eyes.

Is it that you refuse to understand? Slavery was common, accepted practice in society back then. The bible merely takes what was already in full, normal practice across the world, and told the Israelites how to behave in that environment.

For you to suggest that I am rationalizing modern-day slavery is utterly preposterous. All I did was try to illustrate that the word "slave" today is surrounded by a whole bunch of negative connotations that back then, simply didn't exist. Back then it was completely common to conquer a land and take the conquered people and make them your farm hands, butlers, gardeners, launderers, animal caregivers, and all that other stuff that back then is what slaves did. Today the people that do the same things are called something other than slaves, and the only difference is, slaves were owned, meaning they couldn't just quit. That's a big difference, I grant that, but keep in mind they were the enemy before they were enslaved and just about the only other alternative in that day to ensure the safety of the conquering citizens, would have been to KILL the enemy citizens. Now, you have argued they were better off being killed than enslaved. I think you are on the fringe with that opinion.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

May 4, 2013
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So you're saying that what the Bible says is sometimes only relevant to the times in which it was written? How are we to know which laws are relevant only in the time in which they were written? Which of the ten commandments are relevant only in the time in which they were written and which are still relevant today? If we are going to throw out some laws because we deem them no longer relevant and keep some others that we deem to be still relevant, is that not what the non-extremist Muslim does with the "kill infidels" bit in the Koran? Thank God the slavery laws are no longer considered relevant by many Christians! Thank Allah that most Muslims are likewise not following what it says in the Koran, or else we'd have 1.6 billion "terrorists" in our world!

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May 6, 2013
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I think there are many examples of legal situations that are borderline slavery, in all religions even today. The idea of indentured servants was something done in colonial days, but the same issue has come up with many politicians running for office that had Mexican servants living full time with them. It was not uncommon for them to have a husband and wife, one doing house hold maid chores, the other doing things like grounds keeping, they were given food and roof over their heads, and very minimal money. On the cleary illegal side have been things like abductions holding girls in prostitution rings against their will.

Don't know what else you can call arranged marriages but a form of slavery, which is common in many cultures, middle east, and I am sure many religions and cultures right in the USA. Slavery in itself may be not legal, but there are situations where the end result is pretty close to absolute slavery.

September 16, 2010
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Deffinatley puts in in perspective doesn't it?

good stuff Billy ...

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If it were raining hookers, I'd get hit by a fag.

September 16, 2010
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Any ethnic group can be picked out for atrocities Billy, its dumb and bigotted to do so, and its like throwing rocks in glass houses. Just look at it as if a foreignor or ethnic minority asked these questions during heightened conflict, its dumb. The problem is not the race color or culture of a people, criminals come in all types so there should be no reason to single out one more than another.

1 ) John F Kennedy was Officially Killed By Lee Harvey Oswald A Person Of What Ethnic Group

2 ) The Columbine High School Massacre was carried out by Teenagers of What Ethnic Group

3 ) The Oklahoma City Bombing was carried out by Timothy McVeigh A Person Of What Ethnic Group

4 ) The unprovoked Bombing of Fort Sumter was carried out by What Ethnic Group

5 ) The Murders of James Cheney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner was Carried out by members of What Ethnic Group

6 ) The Massacre and destruction of Rosewood Florida was carried out by What Ethnic Group

7 ) The kiling of Abraham Lincoln was carried out by John Wilkes Booth a member of What Etnic Group

8 ) The Mass Murder at Jonestown Guyana was ordered by Jim Jones a Member of What Ethnic Group

9 ) The Attempted Assasination of Ronald Reagan was carried out by John Hinckley Jr a member of What Ethnic Group

10 ) Charles Manson's cult was led by a man of What Ethnic Group

11 ) Church Burners in the USA are usually members of What Ethnic Group

12 ) The Colgne School Massacre was carried by a member of What Ethnic Group

13 ) École Polytechnique Massacre was acrried out by a member of what ethnic group

14 ) The Uof Texas clocktower shooter was a member of what Ethnic Group

15 ) The Erfurt School Massacre was carried out by Robert Steinhäuser a member of What Ethnic Group

16 ) The Bath School bombings were carried out by Andrew Kehoe a Member of What Ethnic Group

17 ) The Omagh Bombing was carried out by people of What Ethnic group

18 ) The Olympic Park Bombing was carried out by a Member of What Ethnic Group

19 ) The US domestic terrorist group The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord is made up of members of What Ethnic Group

20 ) The US domestic terrorist group The Order is made of members of What Ethnic Group

21 ) The US domestic terrorist group United Freedom Front which carried out 20 bombings is made of members of What Ethnic Group

22 ) The Ludlow Massacre of 1914 was carried out by memeber of What Ethnic Group

23 ) The Indian Residential School killings of more than 70000 Children were carried out by members of What Ethnic Group

September 16, 2010
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Sorry Aquatank, but in every one by Billy, they stepped right up and claimed responsibilty in the name of their Muslim Terrorist groups. That is not the case with any of your examples. They have made their own track record.

September 16, 2010
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Greeney2
My response was NOT to point out membership in a terrorist group but to point out the dumbness of racial profiling. I chose White Christian Male as an example of such dumb profiling. Racial profiling is not only dumb and promotes bigotry it undermines national security by allowing non-profiled people/cultural groups to use it as the art of misdirection in committing even more horrible crimes. What happens when a Jim Jones starts ordering bombings of places of sin? We are lucky some people don't fall for Racial Profiling, hence the March 2010 Michigan terrorists of Hutaree made up of mostly White Christian Males. It could have easily been a any culturally exclusive Street Gang gone terrorist, but in this case it wasn't it fit my example profile. Does that mean we should search & single out every White Male from Michigan? No. What it means is we have to get away from racial profiling and do real investigative work but be on the look out for suspicious behavoir not suspicious skin.

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