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Gulf oil spill
May 6, 2010
6:46 pm
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So let me get this straight.

A mysterious, spontaneous explosion sunk this oil rig. At first, the gov't said it is "just an exploratory rig and will not have any effect on gas prices."

Now, I'm hearing 5 to 10 dollar a gallon gasoline over the horizon. Imagine $100 to $150 to fill up your car.

"Never let a crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel, Chief of Staff, Obama Administration

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

May 6, 2010
6:49 pm
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I may agree with something Aquarian said about siezing BP's assets.

Big words from Obama--"Rest assued BP is going to pay for all of this". Remember his stern voice like he really ment it, and just becasue he is the President, its a done deal?

Thats just a big fat bunch of Boloney! Judge Nepolitano on Fox TV really explained this and put it proper perspective how it will go down. First, they are still working out and paying claims from the Exon Valdez 20 years later, and it is not totally solved yet.

BP is the prime contractor, and this will all fall on the insurance companys liability. All the John Does will be named in the legal action, and positively everyone who did business with BP, no matter how small will be dragged into the settlements. BP will bring every single company they subcontracted to, into the legal proceedings. the list will grow into hundreds of defendants, everyone producing liability insurance, even if they supplied something trivial. Additional insurance companies, that insure the insurance companies for underinsuracne will also be involved, and the settlement will get divided up in a process that will take a very very long time. The excess debts not covered my insurance will fall on the taxpayers, and like AIG the taxpayers will probably be forced to bail them out, when the results of them totally failing will affect scores of people. In the end, enormous debt will be the taxpayers bill.

In short this is a disaster of epic proportions, which we have not yet felt the results. It will go on for decades, and affect the ecology of the gulf profoundly, and the economy as well. Who knows if it wasn;t terrorism blowing up the rig? The Russians Rath quotes have no room to talk, as the results of Chernobal still are ongoing. This oil spill is as bad as it can gets short of a nuclear disaster, and the reason so many off shore drilling operations are feared.

May 6, 2010
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"rath" wrote:
Why Do So Many Bad Things Keep Happening To The United States?

Judgment!

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America could very well see a return to the Dust Bowl days of the 1930s.

Why not? Our current administration is heading down the same path of the 30's.

May 6, 2010
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"frrostedman" wrote: So let me get this straight.

A mysterious, spontaneous explosion sunk this oil rig. At first, the gov't said it is "just an exploratory rig and will not have any effect on gas prices."

Now, I'm hearing 5 to 10 dollar a gallon gasoline over the horizon. Imagine $100 to $150 to fill up your car.

"Never let a crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel, Chief of Staff, Obama Administration

Ever since rich nations cut aid to the USA, the cost of oil & gas has gone up in the USA.

& i don't see things getting any better for the USA either.

Your so dependant of Aid from other nations.

So get ready for much higher gas & oil prices.

Venezuela suspends US aid
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7813215.stm

Venezuela threatens to cut US oil
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ame.....238214.stm

G8 pledges $25billion to feed poor
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2469

Millions in U.S.A Drink Dirty, Contaminated Water.
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2595

May 6, 2010
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If the USA fails so does the rest of the world.

We are not the only ones who eat the food grown in the USA, there are many other countries that depend on our grains, and other foods, that are grown here in the USA.

There is also a thing called Mutual economic destruction. That all our economies have been tied together for fear of nuclear war breaking out, it would destroy everyones economy, It was a fail safe to make sure nuclear war did not take place.

That's why Greece is dragging the rest of us down with them. We are all tied together now. So if Rath continues to hope for our demise, rest assured the rest of the free world will suffer even more.

BloodStone...

If it were raining hookers, I'd get hit by a fag.

May 6, 2010
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Exactly, well said Bloodstone.

May 6, 2010
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For right now the important thing is clean up and containment, this thing is leaking out 1000 to 5000 barrels a day, that might be peanuts compared to Exxon Valdez's 53.1 million barrels but its still a mess.

May 6, 2010
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Bloodstone, wind is absolutely viable. Here are the top 20 states that are able to provide viable wind energy for the entire nation if resources are focused there:

http://www.awea.org/faq/wwt_po.....ntial.html

Experience also shows that wind power can provide at least up to a fifth of a system's electricity, and the figure could probably be higher. Wind power currently provides nearly 25% of electricity demand in Germany.

The Few assume to be the deputies, but they are often only the despoilers of the Many.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

May 6, 2010
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"Aquatank" wrote: For right now the important thing is clean up and containment, this thing is leaking out 1000 to 5000 barrels a day, that might be peanuts compared to Exxon Valdez's 53.1 million barrels but its still a mess.

Exxon Valdez's oil spill was about 11 million gallons and this disaster will almost certanly surpass that.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

May 7, 2010
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And the Valdez claims and affects are still ongoing today.

Aquarian, my daughter lives near a California wind farm near Palm Springs. The good parts is wind if free, but the bad part is the areas that have good sustained wind conditions aren;t easy to find. All the California areas I know of are in places where they have winds from the mountian into the valleys, like the Palm Spings area, Tahacapi, and one area up North I can;t recall the name of. We also have some solar plants, one I helped build for my company. Our state is big on Hydroelectic, because we have so many mountian areas with snow pack run off.

the other drawback to the windmills is they do require a large land area, which is not a problem for our geography, California has a lot of wide open space, but only certain places have these special wind conditions.

I am really surpised no company has perfected ocean wave generators, that can generate current from each wave. I;m not sure but perfecting them to generate from an incoming wave, and also switching when the wave goes back out may be a problem.

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