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Gulf oil spill
September 22, 2010
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Oh ok I see.
I did not follow alot of the fine details in the spill so I'm over my head here.
It was clear it was negligence, and I had been spending more time reading
articles in science of the biology concerns. 🙂

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September 22, 2010
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Don;t think they have acutally found the cause yet, most the efforts have been to stop the leak. NASA is doing some technical work to piece togather the failure.

September 22, 2010
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"greeney2" wrote: Don;t think they have acutally found the cause yet, most the efforts have been to stop the leak. NASA is doing some technical work to piece togather the failure.

They've found the cause, and as I stated earlier it was caused by a combination of complacency, ineptitude, criminal negligence, arrogance, laziness and the lack of proper fail safe redundancy for where they were drilling:

On April 30, the House Energy and Commerce Committee asked Halliburton to brief it as well as provide any documents it might have related to its work on the Macondo well. Attention has focused on the cementing procedure and the blowout preventer, which failed to fully engage. A number of significant problems have been identified with the blowout preventer: There was a leak in the hydraulic system that provides power to the shear rams. The underwater control panel had been disconnected from the pipe ram, and instead connected to a test ram. The blowout preventer schematic drawings, provided by Transocean to BP, do not correspond to the structure that is on the ocean bottom. The shear rams are not designed to function on the joints where the drill pipes are screwed together or on tools that are passed through the blowout preventer during well construction. The explosion may have severed the communication line between the rig and the sub-surface blowout preventer control unit such that the blowout preventer would have never received the instruction to engage. Before the backup dead man's switch could engage, communications, power and hydraulic lines must all be severed, but it is possible hydraulic lines were intact after the explosion. Of the two control pods for the deadman switch, the one that has been inspected so far had a dead battery. Employee Tyrone Benton told the BBC on June 21 that a leak was spotted on a crucial piece of equipment in the oil rig's blowout preventer weeks before the accident, and that Transocean and BP were emailed about it.

According to the testimony of Doug Brown, the chief mechanic on the Deepwater Horizon, on May 26 at the joint U.S. Coast Guard and Minerals Management Service hearing, a BP representative overruled Transocean employees and insisted on displacing protective drilling mud with seawater just hours before the explosion. One of the BP representatives on the board responsible for making the final decision, Robert Kaluza, refused to testify on the Fifth Amendment grounds that he might incriminate himself; Donald Vidrine, another BP representative, cited medical reasons for his inability to testify, as did James Mansfield, Transocean's assistant marine engineer on board.

In a June 18 statement, Jim Hackett, the CEO of Anadarko Petroleum Corporation, said research "indicates BP operated unsafely and failed to monitor and react to several critical warning signs during the drilling. ... BP's behavior and actions likely represent gross negligence or willful misconduct."BP responded by strongly disagreeing with the Anadarko statement and said that, despite being contractually liable for sharing clean-up costs, Anadarko is "refusing to accept responsibility for oil spill removal costs and damages". BP has sent Anadarko a bill for $272.2 million; Anadarko is "assessing our contractual remedies".

According to the US Congressional investigation the rig's blowout preventer, a fail-safe device fitted at the base of the well, built by Cameron International Corporation, had a hydraulic leak and a failed battery, and therefore failed. On August 19, Adm. Thad Allen ordered BP to keep the blowout preventer to be used as evidence in any court actions. On the 25th, Harry Thierens, BP’s vice president for drilling and completions, told the hearing that he found that the blowout preventer was connected to a test pipe, rather than the correct one. He said he was "frankly astonished that this could have happened."

In late August, BP released findings from its own own internal probe, which it began immediately after the spill began. BP found that on April 20 managers misread pressure data and gave their approval for rig workers to replace drilling fluid in the well with seawater, which was not heavy enough to prevent gas that had been leaking into the well from firing up the pipe to the rig, causing the explosion. The investigation also questioned why an engineer with BP, team leader overseeing the project, ignored warnings about weaknesses in cement outside the well which could have prevented the gas from escaping. The conclusion was that BP was partly to blame, as was Transocean, which owned the Deepwater Horizon oil rig.

On September 8, 2010, BP released a 193-page report on its web site. The report says BP employees and those of Transocean did not correctly interpret a pressure test, and both companies neglected ominous signs such as a pipe called a riser losing fluid. It also says that while BP did not listen to recommendations by Halliburton for more centralizers, the lack of centralizers probably did not affect the cement. The blowout preventer, removed on September 4, had not reached a NASA facility in time for it to be part of the report. Transocean, responding to the report, blamed "BP's fatally flawed well design."

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September 24, 2010
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Thanks for posting the extra informations Ninor and greeney.
And the spill is at a dead stop now, right?
Maybe there is something extra that NASA is working on??

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September 24, 2010
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"sandra" wrote: Thanks for posting the extra informations Ninor and greeney.
And the spill is at a dead stop now, right?
Maybe there is something extra that NASA is working on??

They wouldn't be trying to convince the PEOPLE that there isn't any dispersed crude laying in layers on the Gulf floor. They wouldn't do that now, would they?

Bring Em All Home Cole

September 24, 2010
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Who is They?

October 11, 2010
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"Ninor" wrote: [quote="kathaksung"]

But how do you explain that Goldman Sachs, Halliburton and BP's Chief could all so accurately made money on this "accident"? That's a plan, not accident.

That merely proves that they were aware/complicit in the negligence and ineptitude that was going on, and decided to bank upon it leading to disaster ... as it inevitably would, and did.

So 911 merely poves that Silverstein was aware/complicit in the negligence and ineptitude that was going on, and decide to invest upon WTC to harvest an insurance fortune two months before attack and those "Bin Laden traders" were also aware/complicit in the negligence and ineptitude that was going on, and decide to short the air line stock just days before 911 attack? Ask your "misinformation workshop" to produce some more believable lies, not these junk defense.

Here is the time table for BP's oil extortion.

U.K. kneeling down (10/4/2010)

BP oil rig in Gulf was damaged in April 20, 2010. I alleged it was sabotage because big heads all knew in advance. Goldman Sachs, BP’s Chief all sold their BP stocks days before the case broken. Halliburton also bought an oil clean-up company just a week before the rig collapsing. Everything follows the steps of 911 sabotage when there was a “Bin Laden trading” of stock which made money on the coming 911 attack. The insiders are experts to take advantage on their plot.

BP was not able to stop the oil leaking in following month. The pressure increased on U.K.. Watch the time table:

6/12, “

UK PM to visit Washington next month |

Reuters
Sat, Jun 12 . Obama tells Britain: BP must pay economic claims

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65B1YK20100612

U.K. finally bent to the pressure. High ranking ruling class signaled compromise. Queen Elizabeth visited Washington.

7/7, “

Queen Elizabeth addresses U.N. for first time since 1957

By Colum Lynch
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 7, 2010

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03943.html

Deal was made. Extortion stopped.

7/15, “

BP says oil has stopped leaking into Gulf of Mexico
The well has been sealed for the first time since April, using a cap which engineers are now monitoring to see if it holds

David Batty and agencies
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 15 July 2010

Secret deal was confirmed. U.K. will join the war on Iran.

7/21, “

U.K. - U.S. relationship thaws
By Helene Cooper
New York Times

Washington - It was not quite the Tony Blair-Bill Clinton love fest of 1997, but President Barack Obama and the newly minted British prime minister, David Cameron, appeared game to do everything they could Tuesday to take some of the recent chill out of the relationship between their countries.

Cameron will follow its predecessor to help the U.S. to continue its “war on terror” in Mid-east. Interesting thing is the media even dare not to say Tony Blair- George Bush love fest but replaced it with Bill Clinton because that would otherwise reveal its attention - Cameron would join Obama in War on Iran, just like Blair joined Bush in War on Iraq.

October 28, 2010
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It is through these CEO, Feds ruled this country. That's why these CEO can always harvest fat bonus and pension, despite it's good year or bad one. Even the company is bankrupted, they left with a full pocket. When they were ousted from a company, they just get another CEO job in a different firm. Because they work for the interest of the ruling class, not for the interest of small share holders or company employers. And those CEO agents now are pushed to take the seats to run the government. The typical representatives we see: Bloomburg, Meg Whitman, Fiorina.....

BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill

The chief executive of BP sold £1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill caused its value to collapse.
By Jon Swaine and Robert Winnett
Published: 12:10AM BST 05 Jun 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... spill.html

November 14, 2010
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I talked about those CEO eight years ago.

57. FBI's interest

On Jan. 31, 2001,(the first wave of attack on my thread) one web site I failed to post was Foxnews.com. It's a big firm. So the level of moderator was high too, I suppose. Perhaps they were unwilling to shut down my thread without proper reason. They simply shut down the forum. A message said that "If you are looking for the Foxnews.com and Fox News Channel community message boards, they have been temporarily disabled while we build a new and easier to use format. We'll have them up and running again as soon as we can." This is obviously cover words. The format they had used was a good one which is using now by big firm such like WashingtonPost.com, ..... The promised 'new and easier to use format' never come true. From time to time I went there, found the page of 'temporarily shut down' was still the same, with threads posted on last day (dated Jan. 31) laying there, showed shut down took place abruptly.

Shut down a prosperous message board was by no means an insignificant event. It hurt Fox's fame and popularity. The decision must be from top ranking. It also helped me to strengthen a belief of how FBI control this country.

I learnt that Walter Disney was an informant of FBI. He died in 1960's. I think there were many VIP informant like him worked for FBI. In early 1990, I believe a helicopter accident was a result of a conspiracy of selection for CEO of Disneyland. I had a puzzle then. Whoever selected a CEO would be co-operate with FBI. Why did they select with violence? Unless they needed one whom was more than an informant, that was, a candidate of their own. Walt Disney was an informant, but once he was required to do something which was conflict to the interest of Disneyland, what would he do? He might choose to protect the interest of Disneyland.

HP and Compaq's emerge is a good example of the difference of a CEO and an owner (I can't find proper word for it. I mean someone who has real interest in business.) HP CEO Fiorina proposed to emerge with Compaq, HP heir Hewlett opposes the deal. Fiorina wants to make HP the biggest PC manufacturer. Hewlett think it's too risk to emerge with a rotten business. I think Hewlett is real care for HP's interest. That's because he has big financial interest in HP. (18% of HP's stock) And he has personal feeling on HP. It's a company set up by his father. Same thing like W. Disney to Disneyland. If the deal is a failure, CEO's loss will be much less than him. And she may become a CEO of another big firm.

Through Disneyland's story, I have a feeling that 40 years ago, FBI got VIP of big firm as their informant. 30 years later, they are not satisfy with this, they need a representative of their own interest.
(I have no intention to link HP and Compaq's emerge with FBI at all. It's different from the shut down of message board of Foxnews. I only use it as reference to show that CEO's decision could hurt the company they work for. )

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"Cole_Trickle" wrote: [quote="sandra"]Thanks for posting the extra informations Ninor and greeney.
And the spill is at a dead stop now, right?
Maybe there is something extra that NASA is working on??

They wouldn't be trying to convince the PEOPLE that there isn't any dispersed crude laying in layers on the Gulf floor. They wouldn't do that now, would they?

Bring Em All Home Cole

of course they wouldnt cole Laugh the dispersant will destroy microbes,the little guys wont be missed ,or will they ..?yes they will..

what a mess

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