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The one thing I will agree with you on is the outsoursing of jobs outside of this country, especially when it comes from saving costs by reducing labor, it is cheaper to go where slave labor is common.  Again and I iwll stess this because you also see the textile industy in shambles, Walmarts and so many are importing clothing from sweat shops in Africa and Asia, where deplorable conditions occur, and hide behind famous names on labels, who are supose to be trusted icons.  The outsoursing of these products and thousands of other products are keyed to mostly one thing.  UNSKILLED LABOR!  If you do not have a skilled trade, you are expendable in this society unfortunately.  You must learn something, and make yourself a skill that is in demand, or unique such as a licenced skill, or skill that is certified.  That is why you see companies outsourse so much, it is not the skillled trades that break the bank it is the pay and benifits that go out to totally unskilled, or skills that can be taught very quickly that get outsoursed.  In big companies, many outsourse hopefully to nearby venders inside the USA.  You can also place some blame on the cost of manufactiing and dealing with ridiculeous EPA and enviornmental laws.  Example in areospace common cleaners like acetone are controlled, measured, and anything contacting it like shop cloths are required to be disposed of in toxic waste dumps, with enormous fines for failure by OSHA. You or I can go down to Home Depot and buy the same thing with no controls or requirements.  

Back to skilled and unskilled trades and labor, when you are paying minimun wages that are twice what the job really should be paid, that does more to reduce the middle class, like myself who was well paid as a certified weldor in areospace, lucky to see 3% raises, now the city of Los Angeles just gave a min wage increase from $9 to $15 or about 66% raise yesterday.  You are proposing the rich just give it to the poor, and the middle class get less and less, plus will suffer the inflation of their raises.  Where is my 66% raise, I guarentee you nobody in the world did the kind of welding I did on the Space Shuttle main engines.  Some fool who can not get a hamburger order right, is getting a 66% raise.  Ridiculeous! That labor can not be outsoursed, but also if anyone can learn how to do a simple assembly line task, wash dishes,  and learn it in a day, why should that be overpaid? Even the rich should not have to hire unskilled people and overpay them, nor should the result of minimum wages just inflate the cost of living to the middle class. 

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From experience in manufacturing, a company that does not look out for the health and safety of their workers should be closed and the owners put in prison. If that drives them overseas, good riddance. Great companies used to know that making a product well and at a good price is good business. The money people get involved and destroy a good company by setting profits ahead of everything else, including harming employees. There is no excuse for not having a minimum wage of $15.00 an hour. Get the old farts out of the way too, cut their hours back 5 hours for every decade past 40. Everyone should have 3 weeks vacation a year and young folk with children need special time off. For a good company these are progressive positive actions. For the companies that would whine about it, lets let the IRS put them in a 70% tax bracket with no write offs. Their hat will spin but they will come around, its business after all.

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The Minimum wage situation is very clear cut in 1969 it was $1.50 IF and I must stress this IF it had been pegged to inflation it would be $9.96 per hour.  Furthermore back before 1980 productivity increases resulted in wage increases, in other words if productivity increased so much the wages did too 3% increase in productivity resulted in 3% wage increase.  Since the mid 1970s average productivity has increased 200% which means realistically most people should be making $19.92 because they are working twice as hard as the workers in 1969.  $15 an hour is a compromise but the most important thing any minimum wage law should have is to be pegged to inflation.  Current federal minimum wage is $7.25 hour that's equal to being paid $1.12 an hour in 1969.   Why a population's workforce  should be kept from having its wages kept up with its inflation rate is beyond me, why so many people, and entire political parties insist it should also defies logic for me.

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