April 9, 2009
April 9, 2009
Historical evidence would indicate otherwise. How do you explain all the advanced knowledge? How do you explain a group of humans thousands of years ago knowing about stars that cannot be seen without modern telescopes? How do you explain the numerous advanced technologies used to build the Great Pyramid?
"CodeBlack" wrote: Historical evidence would indicate otherwise. How do you explain all the advanced knowledge? How do you explain a group of humans thousands of years ago knowing about stars that cannot be seen without modern telescopes? How do you explain the numerous advanced technologies used to build the Great Pyramid?
You don't need aliens to explain humanity's accomplishments. As far as ancient Sumerian knowledge goes, it all depends on how their texts are interpreted.
The pyramids were built without the aid of any advanced technology. Humans have been shoving large rocks around for thousands of years. They built the Gobekli Tepe structures around 11500 years ago, even before agriculture was invented. When the Egyptians built their pyramids or the Sumerians their Ziggurats in the 3rd millenium the technologies to do so had been in development for countless generations, and the Great Pyramid at Giza simply represents the pinnacle of a long established tradition, where knowledge builds on knowledge.
Its a shame megalithism died out and the knowledge lost, because although it isn't difficult to explain how they were built, we can never be sure, and because however they were created would require a degree of labour and commitment that's hard to understand in this day and age, we are tempted to rob humanity of its accomplishments and look elsewhere for explanations.
Also, Sumerian civilisation didn't exactly appear out of nowhere as sensationalist authors like to contrive. Imagine historians or archaeologists in the far future looking back at today and wondering how we went from an agrarian rural culture to an urban digital age with moon landings, computers, and nuclear power in only a few centuries. Would they be tempted to think such a leap of civilisation wasn't possible without external help? Perhaps, but they'd be wrong.
Likewise, when a group of people several thousand years ago settled a fertile river plain in the middle east, and already had thousands of years of incremental knowledge in agriculture, megalithic masonry, and astronomical observations, its not surprising that during a particularly prosperous period when life and survival was relatively easy, large numbers of people had the time to turn their minds to other things and civilisation quickly became the result.
It is possible for human societies to develop rapidly when the conditions are favourable.
April 9, 2009
"Percival" wrote: The pyramids were built without the aid of any advanced technology. Humans have been shoving large rocks around for thousands of years. They built the Gobekli Tepe structures around 11500 years ago, even before agriculture was invented. When the Egyptians built their pyramids or the Sumerians their Ziggurats in the 3rd millenium the technologies to do so had been in development for countless generations, and the Great Pyramid at Giza simply represents the pinnacle of a long established tradition, where knowledge builds on knowledge.
Unfortunately, none of that applies to the Great Pyramid. You could write an entire book just discussing the remarkable, unexplainable aspects of the GP, and some have. Its a whole lot more than shoving rocks around, feats we can't match today even with machines.
Just to give you a taste: There is a floor inside one of the chambers that runs for something near 100 feet that is perfectly flat. And when I say "flat" I mean perfectly flat, to such degree that we could not duplicate it using any technology today, including that which was used to produce the mirrors for the Hubble (flawed as they were). And the "Egyptians" did this with granite!
Another taste: There were pieces removed from the GP that appear to have been produced using sonic cutters, grinders, or something. We can't duplicate them either.
Yet another: The so-called King's Chamber is free floating on all sides except the bottom which is sitting on stone cut like egg crates to produce minimum contact with the chamber floor. The amount of work to do that is phenomenal! Why would they go to such trouble just for a tomb?
More: Some of the granite stones in the interior have been moved to expose sides not seen before and they found that they had been ground and surfaced with high speed machinery. Fact. Where did they get this machinery and what did they power it with? Norwegian Steam? I don't think so.
And more: The GP was setup such that once it was sealed it was impossible to enter without destroying its function and that function appears to be as sonic power plant that took advantage of the resonating vibrations of the earth, and Helmholtz resonators (which have been found), focusing all the energy on the King's Chamber. Numerous scientists and explorers have found evidence to back this up. The entire design of the GP seems geared towards this very thing.
Whatever else happened in ancient Egypt and however you explain it away, the Great Pyramid does not fit in that puzzle. Its a true anomaly and a wonder. Too bad the most import parts of it were destroyed. The first people who dug their way into the interior of the GP probably thought they were entering a tomb but once inside they probably said, "Holy sh*t, what is this!?"
April 9, 2009
Actually the floor is 350 feet long. The first 150 feet is within 0.020 inches of perfect (1 part in 90,000), the entire 350 feet is within 0.250 inches (1 part in 16,800). What, they thought the faithful would be down on the floor with micrometers and lasers? We can't duplicate this. You don't achieve accuracy by accident. Limestone in the GP was cut to 0.010 inch tolerances. Again, why?
When you hear what the GP was built for then you'll know why.
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You sure do know your stuff on this codeblack. This is probably a dum question, but is that skull real? And if so, would you mine giving me a link? 😉
"pandasex" wrote: In Sumeria (now Iraq) he was known as Ashur
by the time he gets to Persia (now Iran) he becomes Faravahar
Now, there isnt any doubt this is not the same person god (which ever u like). He was obviously a symbol stolen from the Anunnaki. But who and what really was he?
Does anyone have any good Sumerian websites??
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April 9, 2009
Actually I got that image from Google and it is not directly related to the GP, just my attitude towards the answer. Of course to believe that aliens were in ancient Egypt brings its own questions. Exactly how did that play out? Did these aliens look human enough to pass for human? Seems unlikely. Then, did they remain isolated from the Egyptians? I think they did. I think the Sphynx originally had a lion's head and it served as a kind of scarecrow to warn humans to stay away. They may have actually used lions as guard dogs around the Giza plateau to keep away the pesky humanzees. Egyptians would sail down the Nile and see the work going on there and stop, so the Sphynx staring at them was a warning.
I think the GP was built in 10,500 b.c. and the Egyptians took over the territory after the aliens left and they simply turned the whole episode into a religion (Ma'at). The Egyptians became fascinated with large edifices from that point on. Plus I think that some of the alien technology was transferred to humans, probably accidentally or it was unavoidable. That led to other issues, a topic for another thread.
The aliens sabotaged the GP before they left by removing the dampeners and allowing the machine to run out of control and it destroyed itself at the weakest point which was in the King's Chamber, that thing they call the "sarcophagus" (yeah right). The KC shows signs of that happening.
If you saw the parts that were originally in the GP it would blow your mind. No way that thing was ever a tomb. And of course there are no hieroglyphics which is distinctly un-Egyptian. Colonel Vyse's quarryman's inscription was a fraud (as mentioned in the movie Stargate).
Thanks for the reply Codeblack.
What do you think about the age of the sphinx? There is a new research saying it is much older than 10,000 years old due to the water erosions.
April 9, 2009
"Much older" than 10,000 years? Hmm, that does seem extreme. But the GP originally had polished stone on its surface which may have protected it. Still, much older than 10,000 seems hard to believe. Its a stretch. Even the 12,500 years is admittedly a stretch. The main reason that age is important is that it coincides with the so-called "air shafts" lining up with a star in Orion's belt and a star in Pegasus (if I remember correctly).
Look at that region of Orion in Google Earth (switch to sky). Big supernova, wrecked. If anybody lived there, they don't anymore. I think 12,500 years ago they knew they were about to be obliterated and sent out scouts to find a new home. Earth just happened to be one of them, or a way point along the way. The scouts had to call home and tell them what they found plus give them a navigational beacon to chart a course, hence the GP (Microwave Transmitter). They were probably desperate. The alien engineers didn't know exactly how to build the transmitter so there was some trial and error before they got it right with the GP.