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February 9, 2019 - 7:16 am
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I hope that what you described is caused by spiritual beings and not aliens. Because it would suit me and everyone else better that aliens are and do as said in the alien interview part 1-3.

But if you say you witnessed a space ship, this could mean it is not caused by spirits but by aliens. OR two things are ocurring at the same time.

Before you said you did not met with aliens. Which typically means that this could be it.

But are there any reasons why you would connect this experience with a space ship with the occurrences you describe. These regular occurrences?

How was the atmosphere? Was it different from the more regular experiences? Did they refer to it in any way?

Generally speaking the atmosphere, how it goes, looks more friendly and considerate. Compared to wounds that suddenly exist. And being subjective to black outs regularly.

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Roelof, have you seen my report? Just wondering lol From the main page, choose case files, then ufos, on page ,3 I believe, you'll find Triangle ufos over st thomas Canada. Thats me. There's a couple of video descriptions and pictures of a model I made of the craft. The investigator,Jim Kerr, did an excellent job verifying weather and constellations, on the days I mention. There are many reasons I believe they are all connected. The reoccurring cut , the puncture in my arm as a child, the scoop mark,the missing time events, all culminating in an encounter with a craft,that demonstrates the same characteristics. Missing time, and the cut. Seems pretty clear to me. 🙂

It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. H.S.

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February 9, 2019 - 8:15 am
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After you mentioned it I just had the first look on it. It was page 4.

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Roelof, thanx for taking the time, to check it. 🙂

It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. H.S.

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February 14, 2019 - 10:52 am
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I sent a PM to Jamie. This is why the conversation stopped in this thread.

n120by60w also posted in this thread after that. I got an email about it because I am subscribed to this thread. And I see it on the sub forum thread listing page as ''last poster''. But I don't see the post in the thread. I didn't see this with any other post of n120by60w.

So I have no idea what n120by60w said or why I can't see the post.

Or this: for some ''Signs before and after alien abduction?''.

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Just now seeing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....ZYDNXTMsQM
A wave of UFO's in Belgium. Seen by a quite populous number of people.

➤ Having never ever known anything about this!

➤ Having happened as next door

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February 25, 2019 - 11:26 am
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I'm not trying to be audacious to the news. Or maybe who was about this. This is just how I feel about not knowing.

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n120by60w said
Hi I am n120by60w.

My family have experience abductions on and off for our entire lives.

Many durring the daytime and some toe to toe some are fragmented memories.

I am now in my 60's and have been dealing with it first hand for decades.

 

Pre Courser events.

- 1/4" to 3" White and Black orbs appearing randomly around house.

  They increase in size and lessen in time between their appearances before abduction.

- MIB / Military / Government interest or questioning or interest before major events.

- Sometimes I or my wife are shadowed by government plated verticals or Black Helicopters.

  In recent years Drones have replaced the Helicopters.  Once a Mini Drone 3".

- Focal'ized buzzing within a wall or in a space within home.

- A sense that something is coming / impending change

- Sometimes just a day before, sometimes weeks ahead of time at dusk.

   A a red light will appear hovering over lake Michigan to my west. (@3000/5000' Alt)

  Then a flashing white/Green/Red one will position itself to my East. (@3000 / 5000' Alt)

   They will hover for 8 hours or more without moving their positions in relation to my home.

   They are gone after abduction occurs.

Post Abduction

- Black Eye or Eyes

- Round bleeding wound behind ear or in ear.

- Implants - Nasal Passage / Leg, Thigh / tooth / Deep with skull - or attached to nerve.

  Verified by CT or removed by surgeon.

- Nearby 

  - Telephone pole - at base melting tar out of pole.

  - Immediate - Soil is hard, supper dry -- over time a circle of moss or dead zone

    ( maybe up to 6 month before it is noticeable/the grass dies.)

  - Tree's (Deciduous) Leaves on tree's less than 1" around turn white tree also over time becomes dry and brittle and dies.  Large (Deciduous) Tree's top of tree and very bottom new leaves turn bright white.  They are supple and healthy but are bright white.  If discovered the tree will be removed by local team... Mine was on a Sunday... the local city workers don't work on Sundays.

  - Strange magnetic effects to local area.

    Many times it is just a natural anomaly that is used to their advantage for movement

    powering the of crafts.

  - Black or Blue with an orange strip helicopters making aggressive low pass's over the area.

    When Mufon is onsite to investigate or abductee's meeting together.

  - Misplaced objects

    - They have moved or removed objects that later reappeared.

    - They left some trace evidance.  Sometime has a strong smell.

  - Altered animals around the abduction site.

     - Scars on roof or back of mouth (Pets)

     - Strange marks on belly of pets.

     - Blue / Green fungi on backs of Toad / Horse Fly

     - Pets or animals become all but able to follow complex commands

I guess I could think of more but I am out of time for now.

 

Peace & Safety,

- Watcher

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I just want to say, Thank You So Much for being brave and open enough to post this. It has helped me so far and has made me feel better.  I also just want to say overall, I'm so incredibly Grateful to whoever started this thread and to everyone who has kept it going.  I'm sure it will heal a great many people.  =*-)! =-*(!  I hope to get the free time to read them all =-)! 

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You just want to vent, David? I understand...this kind of experience is really a trauma, and you are perfectly right to say that dream was SO real! just because it is a reality: you have been abducted, no doubt...

The story you tell is exactly like all the testimonies I have seen, and yes that's it : they hide their real appearance. This is really bad what they did to you, typically they put a long needle into your body, hand or anywhere else. They have no emotion at all, so we can supply, shout or cry, nothing changes what they want, and even when they project in our mind, some kind of calm, this is only to manipulate, and make us accept what they do, just to be able to do their work easier. 

You are not crazy at all, this is real, what you could feel, the fear in your mind, and the pain in your body tell you it was real.

Let me tell you that you have this time in your memory, but you probably were abducted many times you did forget. Let me tell you too, as a human being you have the power to resist, and say "no", as they haven't the right to do this to us, they have to stop when we refuse their presence and their bad work!

  

Thank You So Much for posting this comforting response, I don't know when t it helped the person you were typing/responding to but it sure helped me. =*-)!  One of the WORST things is to be told in any manner, way/shape/or form that you're lying. To not be believed is to be re-victimized by those who are supposed to be helping/healing you.  =*-(!    This whole thing very much reminds me of the Me Too movement, how victims were/are written off and just flat out not believed/told their lying/made out to be fame/publicity seekers and/or money grubbers, etc.  When it's very much the Exact Dead Stamp Opposite, the victims are TRYING to STOP the damn criminals and Save any other future victims. =*-(!.

But speaking of this (and sorry for the tangent, though by now I very much doubt that you'll answer me, since this topic and board seem so Dead/barren =-(! ). 

I was wondering, when I try to refuse ANYTHING (Spirit, Ghost, Demon and that includes Alien Life/Extraterrestrials)  Mom/Dad and family members ... I'm NOT listened to/my wishes obeyed.  I can say anything I want and the NICEST response is being protected ignored.  I have NEVER had my wants obeyed.  So how in the world do you get Extraterrestrials to actually obey you, when they are already coming and clearly/Duh, acting against your (and everyone else's) will and without even caring to ask permission first and getting our First FreeWill Consent to whatever they want to do to us?  

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You are right, Jamie, you don't have to be their victim: before being asleep, just think "don't you dare doing me anything, I forbid you now" etc..and most of all say you are free, your body is yours, and your mind is yours.

I am talking about laws in this Universe. We are incarnated here in some kind of an animal body because the perfect energy we were part of, did accept this challenge with those (some species) who were against. This could be said like that :" ok you can deny my energy so you will try to take my creature while it will be unconscious and would have forgotten everything from the energy it comes from, everything about me (what we could call "God" on Earth). So that's the reason why we did lose our powers (from this energy) wanting to prove we will chose to remember the other dimensions we come from even if we are unconscious when incarnated. That's also the reason why the bad ETs are observed by other ETs. Here is a stage we come to play a part.

That's the reason why when we say "no" it is some kind of waking up from amnesia, and at the very moment you say "now, you stop that", you become a free being, and they have to go away.

When you say "no", you become free form the matrix we are into, and these bad ETs have to obey your orders, I know how incredible it is when you are an abductee, you can't believe you have this power inside of you, but this is real. We are and you are as powerful as they are, in other dimensions: we human beings do communicate by telepathy, we can cross the material world, we can go anywhere we want to with our mind, and move through other dimensions, so we are powerful beings! just study the N.D.E, and you will see this is exactly the truth people can experiment, the truth I can see since a little girl. This is just quantum physics : our thoughts are powerful. 

If everyone in this world would discover this truth, I mean not only abductees, but everyone in this world would just think "no"...the bad ETs would have to leave our planet, no matter their program, no matter their power, no matter their will to infiltrate our minds, no matter the way they take our bodies to make hybrids, no matter the way they have got governments... all that would be stopped, they would have to obey...good ETs would interfere and say to the greys and the reps to stop, and they would stop because they could be destroyed. But if we don't say "no", these good ETs have no right to interfere. 

 In other dimensions, reps have to go away when I fight against them, I order them to leave and they do! Just feel the power you have inside of you, and you will see you are stronger than them. Nobody wants to hear me but this is the only way to save humanity.

If we wake up, we will be safe.

  

I don't mean to spam this thread, and sorry if I am (but this message board is pretty dead right now and I seem to be the only one on it oddly enough. ... Which makes me think this is another Defunct message board I've stumbled across =-(! ) anyway, I agree with Jamie. In my own life I have told and FOUGHT   H A R D    (verbally, socially, mentally, spiritually even physically when I had too, sometimes all of these and more, all at once) with my LIFE  AGAINST these darn things (Demons, Evil Spirits, people even, and the more I look into it, possibly even Aliens =*-(!!!!!!!)  And not ONCE was I listened to, obeyed, etc.  Not ONCE did any Spirit, Ghost, person, etc. actually Leave Me Alone, stop picking on me, harassing me, bullying me, beating me up.  If "help" came along I was the one who was blamed, and for being beaten!  Even though I was cowering, and had been, I was blamed and, "the one who was beating the beater up" etc.  So if it's this bad in the physical (and spiritual worlds, I've found) how in the world can merely saying, "no", and not even physically acting out the No, actually get aliens to stop and go away?   ...  Sorry if the Aspie/Asperger is coming out but what you are saying is pretty incorrect.  And just the physical actions, the fighting back, the screaming, kicking, flailing etc. that's a Physical example of "No!" right there.  ... So ... I'm sorry for going off on you like that but what you are saying is so terribly WRONG I just couldn't help but respond. ...  But maybe ... You sound a Dead Stamp like these Abraham Hicks/The Secret people and maybe you've tapped into something that people like me haven't been able to yet.  Maybe you've realized something that I haven't yet. ... So if I've missed the mark entirely then I'm very sorry, but from where I stand right now what you've said is a flat out LIE.  If I've gotten it wrong, or am just Dull then Please if you can, if there's anyway to explain it to me so that I may understand and do as you are doing, tell me what you are doing/what I got wrong/what I'm missing etc.   Because right now, it looks like no matter how hard anyone fights, yells, screams, is Terrified, cowers, begs, pleads, conjoles, etc. etc. and yes, even says, "No!" , it does NOT stop these darn Aliens, at all. =-(!!!!!!.

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Jamie said
Humaine, 

 I'm giving it a try, I can't say I won't also be staying awake at night but I'm willing to try anything. As I said earlier, it's anger that drives me to get answers, not fear, or curiosity, like some others.

   I don't care who or what is doing it,or for whatever reason they say they are doing it.      They come into my home, take me against my will, assault me, wipe my mind of the incident, leave me mutilated and healing from the ordeal. They're criminals, plain and simple. One day, I'll get to confront them and I will treat them as such. And any human beings involved in helping them in this endeavor, will be fair game. 

  

Thank you for saying this I ENTIRELY AGREE.  When I can get back at these damn entities that have been bothering me I will, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels/thinks like this, it's good to not be alone. =*-)!!!!!!!. 

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