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May 22, 2018 - 1:29 am
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Hildegard, lol by no means am I hurting for sleep. I do sleep, only after sunrise. I am in better shape both mentally and physically, than I have been in years. 

 I have a SEVERE authority complex 🙂 . I joke, but it's real. As a child I was, as many are, a victim of abuse, until I was able to put a stop to it for myself. I don't dwell on that part of my life at all, but have drawn strength from it all my life. Being a victim is a choice.If I never see who or what is doing this, I can rest easy, that I did everything within my power, to fight those who would attempt to make me one. 

 Your care for my well being is very appreciated, thank you 🙂

It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. H.S.

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May 22, 2018 - 2:08 am
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Jamie, you probably think I'm a smart aleck when you read what I'm telling you.
I think only the parallel are strange. my whole life so far was not really enjoyable. Apart from that, it has of course strengthened me. I would say that I too was abused. but emotionally and as an adult then physically. can it be unavoidable to deal with it? I mean, a lot of negative energy and stuff has accumulated in us. old fears that were only displaced and not processed.
I am through all this stuff z.b. very alert, I would even say that I became sensitive.
I have changed a lot due to the events of the past year. it still seems to me like a final of something. a kind of endkampf. but I do not know what else is coming.
I just want to contribute something that I know worked for me. at least for the moment. maybe it will help someone later to read all this here.
Take care of yourself!

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May 22, 2018 - 2:40 am
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Hidegard,

 I pass no judgement,lol we all end up where we are based on our experiences. Some experience more than others. Im open to all interpretations that lend reason. Im not looking for spirituality, in the words of a great tv space captain " that's a long wait for a train don't come". But these physical beings can be physically dealt with. I'm trying to force a confrontation while im awake, by denying them the easy abduction of a sleeping victim. I've been taken awake as well and don't remember what happened. But perseverance will prevail. They do screw up. And they will. We all have our own way of getting to answers. I'm ready for a more hands on approach. I'll let those of you that can see the ether,deal with that part.:-)

It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. H.S.

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May 22, 2018 - 3:43 am
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ok, then please report here if something has happened. it is always a pity if these threads fall asleep at some point. People like me, come later and find the topic interesting and helpful. but at some point there is silence in most threads.
I read in any case, even if I do not answer immediately. I'm curious if Humaine says something more. she has also made very interesting statements so far. So take care, Jamie. and even if you do not want to hear it 🙂
God bless you!!

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May 22, 2018 - 10:40 pm
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Hildegard 🙂

I will definitely keep updating things on this site. Im not a member anywhere else, mainly because this was my first lol, and so far,so good.:-)

   Take care, I hope to hear fom you in future posts.And thanks for the blessing, really. 🙂

It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. H.S.

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May 22, 2018 - 12:57 pm
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Hi both of you!

So happy you are talking together and helping each other. I wish all abuctees would do the same.

I have always thought that several brains can do more than one alone, so the more we are to search how to fight the best it is!

Sorry, I wish I could talk with you more often, but I am always out of time, trying to help more and more people. (Hildegard about your private message : I 'll answer you as soon as possible!)

There is always a link between suffering and abductions. Confirmed with what you said both of you!I noticed there are very many people who had been abused as a child. What a hell ! WHY??? this is obviously something to search. My hypothesis is that these aliens need us to surfer to make our vibrations become low, and then once we are "low" they can take us, making us cross the walls and make us travel. They want us being always in suffering situations. Then they influence everybody's mind, so they can push every human being to do bad and low things( I mean the ones who abused chidren are manipulated, and this is not hard when we know how weak are human beings)

This is unfortunately something all religions have always said, bad energies we called "evil"...

I do agree with the fact that it doesn't matter who they are and what planet they come from, etc... I really don't care! all details given from the greys to abductees are lies.

Let's imagine you find someone in your home at night, someone who did enter your house, you heard a noise and then this person is there in front of you. Can we imagine we should say : "oh please tell me what you are doing here? Wait a minute, I will look at the date, and write the hour you did come here. So now will you give me your name and tell me why you are here? Do you want to rob me, or do you want to rape me or maybe do you wan to kill me?"

Obviously, nobody would do that but everybody will shout, or will try to have some help calling the police, or will defend himself in any way that would be possible. So this is at once the first thing we do:  we try to escape or to find how to survive. That's exactly what you are trying to dowhen faced to these bad ETs. Bravo!

Trying to know who they are what they want of course can be a way to defend ourselves, but when we are faced to them, we only want to make them stop! 

Really they can't stand when we project love, I mean not love for them of course, but when we think about the ones we love here on earth, parents, children, lover...this is something they can't fight again, this is something unbearable for them, I do it everytime and so they have to leave! maybe you can try it...

I send you good vibrations 🙂

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May 22, 2018 - 11:05 pm
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Humaine, 

I'm just not there yet, I don't really think I'd be content to know things have just stopped. If I never got the chance to speak my mind, or at the very least,exact some kind of retribution face to face, I would feel cheated. As I say that, I hear how childish it sounds. I just can't reach the next level until I'm finished with this one I guess. I understand everything you're trying to say, it all makes sense. The physics of energy and thought, the different dimensions, travelling, all of it, I've studied a lot of it myself since this all started. I really enjoy those points of view, and I explore them often. I believe that with enough time we all could attain the enlightened level that others have. 

    I just don't want to get past the whole "eye for an eye" thing. I will, when I'm ready, but not yet.:-)

It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. H.S.

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May 22, 2018 - 11:57 pm
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Hey Jamie 🙂 are you ok?
Humaine, I'm so glad you've written something.
I think what you say is right. somehow yes and somehow not. I can only speak for myself, of course not for everyone. in this matter you have more information.
I mean, they keep us low Through other people and difficult situations. people who are already aware of some things than others, they can only manipulate with other people. because the conscious human being, even if he is manipulated for some time, would back on the road. because he knows the bad way is not good for him. that is my feeling when I look at myself. So they have to make your environment manipulate you or hurt you, so you can come to the lower vibrations. that's what I think, but that does not have to be right or universal.

i have the experience that if i love sending, then you throw more stones in your direction. somehow everything will be worse for a while than before. the person of whom I wrote made strange comments sometimes. There was no explanation what that means. he just threw these words into the room. "I saved you! remember who you are! how did you resist all this? you endured so much for me, how did you do that?"
I always had the feeling that says that is not HE. but I thought in hindsight that something trying to break me. whatever. They tried to break my mind with all this stuff. When I had the visions, I thought that I would go insane. I had that seven weeks in a row. almost every day about 20-30 min. Eventually it stopped because I was finished and begged for help from God. I'm still not sure where that came from. but being sure to give them no mental energy makes them angry. my theory can be wrong. or not 100% correct. but so far it has been that I later have insight that was more correct than my first theory. you never stop learning 🙂

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May 25, 2018 - 4:11 pm
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Well, I guess the staying awake at night doesn't work.

I woke up yesterday so sore that I could barely walk. That in itself isn't anything too strange as I have had multiple back surgeries. (I have been feeling pretty good for a long while now so it is out of the blue) 

What makes it strange is that an hour after I woke up, my son came out of his room(he's 20), with tissue in his nose. He had awoken with a cut up his nostril just like mine weeks earlier. So it's clear to me that they can abduct me in broad daylight in front of my neighbors who don't see a thing. They're pathetic, to go through all that,instead of just facing me. They must fear us something crazy. Feels kinda good lol cowards!

 So , now it's down to proof. I'm looking to buy a serious surveillance set up. If anyone knows where I should start, some pointers would help, im not very up on the tech.

It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. H.S.

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May 26, 2018 - 3:24 am
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Jamie, good that you have reported something new. it's been the same with me lately. I feel a heavy from the left shoulder to the arm. it's not every day like that. I fancy that's only there when I mentally mess with them.
My son used to noseble for years at night. he was between 10 and 14 at that time.
At the time I was not concerned with these things. but it felt strange to me.
My daughter also had an inexplicable feeling for about a year at night. And she locked herself in her room. She said then that she felt there was someone there. something scary.
I can not comment on the topic of surveillance technology. sorry. I am not familiar with it. but I think that you would not see anything anyway. I have never seen her. I can only feel and hear when something is here. and I can smell it too. I hope someone can help you there. stay tuned and take care!

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