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Unlike may others I do not recall meeting the beings when I was little, however, I have been told I was 4 yrs old the first time.  I don't always believe what they tell me because I don't trust them, and that seems to be an issue with them, me not trusting.

In the 80's I had dreams of being high up in the sky looking down upon a dark earth, seeing tiny lights in the blackness of night, then falling from that great height into the darkness.  It was at that time I developed a fear of heights.  I always ended up in my bed, but one night I remember yelling that I was falling too fast and was told to pedal my legs as if riding a bike, this would slow me down.  Who ever was bringing me back must have got a kick out of that episode for they do have a sense of humor.

The first time that I, without doubt, saw anything not of this earth was what I thought was a space suit in my bedroom doorway.  This was the beginning of an endless journey of seeking for the truth whatever that may be.  They, the beings, exist.  They are here now and can appear in many forms depending on what they want you to see and if lucky, remember.

I have searched for answers and have been given a few although not of much consequence but helpful.  At first I was cooperative but over time I am no longer, and as I became less cooperative their visits changed.  The balls and orbs that were easily seen are no longer but are still there because I can see them.  It is as though they want me to know they are still here.  One could easily say it is all in my imagination, and I would reply well, you are not looking for them and I am.  I could also say, you don't know what to look for and I do because they taught me what to look for.  Now, I do not smell them as in the past.  Their smells helped to identify them.  They do not like things thrown at them when they are here.  I sleep with a little container of Indian corn in my bed and throw kernels at them willing them to penetrate and destroy and they leave immediately.  Before, I would remember after visits and write down all that I could remember, now I remember nothing but still find the bruising that wasn't there before I went to bed.

Reading your stories reinforces my belief that they tailor their visits to fit in with the individual as they have mine.  I am a grandmother, probably old enough to be most of yours or perhaps your mother.  They came at me from this angle.  I held and played with babies until the lady in charge and I had an argument over allowing the babies to have more freedom to play; she kicked me out.  I no longer hold babies.

One of the three that come here in what I believe to be their vehicles which are blinking balls and can become any size they need, says that he is a reptilian and watching over me is his punishment.  I laughed at him which infuriated him and told him I didn't like him either.  He began slamming the human race as being stupid; we can't even send thought!  My response was that we are not stupid, we are innocents, and that shut him up.

Compared to the beings abilities, technologically and mentally,  we are indeed primitive, but I believe that this works in our favor just as the sense of smell in animals is more acute than our own.  I believe that our minds are capable of power that they have lost, and when we grasp onto this inner power we remain in control.  I suspect that should we connect this individual power together we could drive them away.  But this will not happen until we learn to work together as one and not as individuals. 

I seem to know the nights they are coming for me because those are the nights I am unable to fall asleep.  I also seem to instantly awaken when they attempt to immobilize me and have learned how to fight it.  They wait a few minutes then try again, and I fight it off again.  After those second attempts I remember nothing. they have either left or zapped me.

The other night I watched Hanger One: UFO Files.  They spoke of a terrible train wreck caused by what cannot be proven but suspected to be a collision with a UFO on the tracks.  I immediately thought of one of my experiences with them when I was allowed to remember. 

I was in a ship with 3 others.  There was the driver who I thought was my youngest son, the one that is always with me when with them, the old one, and one who I thought was my sister.  We flew then stopped at a railroad crossing landing on the tracks between the warning signals.  Coming down the line was an intense bright light which I thought was the light from a locomotive and it was traveling fast.  My first thought was we are all going to be killed, so I jumped out of the back seat, opened the drivers side door and told him to move his body out of that seat.  I was astounded to see my son was only about 9 years old.  I looked up and saw there would be no time to move the vehicle as the train was almost upon us.  My last thoughts was this is the way it should be; we will all die together.

Of course we didn't die, and later I was able to piece together that my son was a little one, who the ancient one was as well as my sister, who was also one of them.  The point is that we met on the railroad tracks, a place where there is no traffic except for trains which travel on a schedule and easily tracked by the beings.  All in all a safe place to meet up as we did.  There is so much to learn from other happenings.

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grasshopper said
Unlike may others I do not recall meeting the beings when I was little, however, I have been told I was 4 yrs old the first time.  I don't always believe what they tell me because I don't trust them, and that seems to be an issue with them, me not trusting.

In the 80's I had dreams of being high up in the sky looking down upon a dark earth, seeing tiny lights in the blackness of night, then falling from that great height into the darkness.  It was at that time I developed a fear of heights.  I always ended up in my bed, but one night I remember yelling that I was falling too fast and was told to pedal my legs as if riding a bike, this would slow me down.  Who ever was bringing me back must have got a kick out of that episode for they do have a sense of humor.

The first time that I, without doubt, saw anything not of this earth was what I thought was a space suit in my bedroom doorway.  This was the beginning of an endless journey of seeking for the truth whatever that may be.  They, the beings, exist.  They are here now and can appear in many forms depending on what they want you to see and if lucky, remember.

I have searched for answers and have been given a few although not of much consequence but helpful.  At first I was cooperative but over time I am no longer, and as I became less cooperative their visits changed.  The balls and orbs that were easily seen are no longer but are still there because I can see them.  It is as though they want me to know they are still here.  One could easily say it is all in my imagination, and I would reply well, you are not looking for them and I am.  I could also say, you don't know what to look for and I do because they taught me what to look for.  Now, I do not smell them as in the past.  Their smells helped to identify them.  They do not like things thrown at them when they are here.  I sleep with a little container of Indian corn in my bed and throw kernels at them willing them to penetrate and destroy and they leave immediately.  Before, I would remember after visits and write down all that I could remember, now I remember nothing but still find the bruising that wasn't there before I went to bed.

Reading your stories reinforces my belief that they tailor their visits to fit in with the individual as they have mine.  I am a grandmother, probably old enough to be most of yours or perhaps your mother.  They came at me from this angle.  I held and played with babies until the lady in charge and I had an argument over allowing the babies to have more freedom to play; she kicked me out.  I no longer hold babies.

One of the three that come here in what I believe to be their vehicles which are blinking balls and can become any size they need, says that he is a reptilian and watching over me is his punishment.  I laughed at him which infuriated him and told him I didn't like him either.  He began slamming the human race as being stupid; we can't even send thought!  My response was that we are not stupid, we are innocents, and that shut him up.

Compared to the beings abilities, technologically and mentally,  we are indeed primitive, but I believe that this works in our favor just as the sense of smell in animals is more acute than our own.  I believe that our minds are capable of power that they have lost, and when we grasp onto this inner power we remain in control.  I suspect that should we connect this individual power together we could drive them away.  But this will not happen until we learn to work together as one and not as individuals. 

I seem to know the nights they are coming for me because those are the nights I am unable to fall asleep.  I also seem to instantly awaken when they attempt to immobilize me and have learned how to fight it.  They wait a few minutes then try again, and I fight it off again.  After those second attempts I remember nothing. they have either left or zapped me.

The other night I watched Hanger One: UFO Files.  They spoke of a terrible train wreck caused by what cannot be proven but suspected to be a collision with a UFO on the tracks.  I immediately thought of one of my experiences with them when I was allowed to remember. 

I was in a ship with 3 others.  There was the driver who I thought was my youngest son, the one that is always with me when with them, the old one, and one who I thought was my sister.  We flew then stopped at a railroad crossing landing on the tracks between the warning signals.  Coming down the line was an intense bright light which I thought was the light from a locomotive and it was traveling fast.  My first thought was we are all going to be killed, so I jumped out of the back seat, opened the drivers side door and told him to move his body out of that seat.  I was astounded to see my son was only about 9 years old.  I looked up and saw there would be no time to move the vehicle as the train was almost upon us.  My last thoughts was this is the way it should be; we will all die together.

Of course we didn't die, and later I was able to piece together that my son was a little one, who the ancient one was as well as my sister, who was also one of them.  The point is that we met on the railroad tracks, a place where there is no traffic except for trains which travel on a schedule and easily tracked by the beings.  All in all a safe place to meet up as we did.  There is so much to learn from other happenings.

Yes, indeed. We are not capable of sending thought nor telepathy. At the very least, you’re able to communicate with them whenever they show up and tell the how you feel. My caretaker, a Grey, very rarely talks to me via telepathy. He seems to only speak to me while I’m laying down in bed about to go to sleep or in the early mornings as I am still laying in bed. 

Every now and then, he will send me mental videos of a person doing something that always makes me laugh. Like, every single time. He knows exactly which buttons to press to get me to laugh. These days, he rarely shares (if at all) any information with me about what’s going on in the world or something about himself. He will absolutely not tell me anything about myself that is significant. 

These are some of the things that he had told me a few years ago:

He said that they are (the extraterrestrials) a part of me.

  • He said that Hell is real.
  • He told me his name (Mabi).
  • A female ET told me her name (Lij).
  • He said that I possess ESP. 

I was even told one night or morning that one of the missing planes (I forgot which one) was hidden in a cave somewhere. 

I honestly do not believe that he is lying but it’s safer to be skeptical at all times. I had a dream where I am suspended above the earth and I can see all around me. I think that I was outside of my body as a soul. I think I turned and looked towards the sun which was beautiful and warm. I thought about going into outer space but got scared because I didn’t know where to go and it was cold. All of a sudden, I began falling towards Earth at an insane rate of speed. I saw the United States and I was falling towards South Carolina. I kept falling until I went through the roof of my apartment and slammed into my body which was in bed. I immediately woke up and felt the pain! My palms and fingers were still tingling from the impact. 

During all of my experiences I have never actually “smelled” them. The beings that I used to encounter were mostly of the spiritual variety. Only the Grey appeared to be flesh  and bones but even then he had absolutely no odor. These spiritual beings would show up just about every night around 12 AM through 4 AM and this is ongoing. There are so many different types of these spiritual beings. Some look like fairies while others resemble imps with wings. There are ALL SORTS of spiritual beings. And these guys would fly around the room and vanish into thin air. I have never tried throwing something at them but I think I’ll give it a shot, lol! 

I have never awoken to find bruising on my body that wasn’t there before. Perhaps I’m looking in the wrong places because I’m 100% sure that I have been abducted several times when I was younger. All of my abductions felt like dreams to me. And in some of them I’m either sitting in a classroom with other students or I’m being taught something in a one-on-one session. I remember being taught how to walk through walls. Stuff like that. 

You said that the reptilian was watching over you as his punishment. I wonder if the same is true of the Greys who are taking care of me. I highly doubt they’d tell me. I probably wouldn’t say anything to piss them off because there’s no telling what they might do. I have no intention of pissing them off because all they’ve done so far is took care of me. But I do want to know what’s really going on. That’s what I want to know. I bet I could learn so much from these guys if they could just talk to me like the way your beings talk to you. Also, I wouldn't mind meeting Human ETs. I think that that would be kind of cool.

If you were in a spaceship with those guys and the ship was on the track, the train would probably go straight through the ship without ever harming any of you. These extraterrestrials can do anything and the good guys would never do anything to hurt you.

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Hidden_Ninja you are capable of sending thought---just think it and if they are about they can read your mind, your thoughts.  It's harder to send a picture; you have to really concentrate to send a contrived thought picture.

You said that things started happening with seeing spiritual beings which did not frighten you, then switched to the little grey.  You see what they want you to see and no doubt created these spiritual beings to watch your reactions.  It sounded like you enjoyed watching them.

You said they like to keep you happy, even laughing.  They did the same to me.  At some point you have to ask, why are they doing this?  I think it's a way to draw you in, to gain your trust. 

Your dream of seeing the world when you were falling.  Have you given thought that you were possibly being returned after an abduction?

You said that you didn't want to piss them off, why not?  They can die and be hurt the same as us humans.  They are not 'better' than you.  They are just more advanced in mental control.  They use your fear of pissing them off to help maintain control.  They have no right to invade your life, mess with your mind, and or abduct you.  In this sense, they are invaders using a different type of weapon---mental control another type of weapon is it not?Confused

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grasshopper said
Hidden_Ninja you are capable of sending thought---just think it and if they are about they can read your mind, your thoughts.  It's harder to send a picture; you have to really concentrate to send a contrived thought picture.

You said that things started happening with seeing spiritual beings which did not frighten you, then switched to the little grey.  You see what they want you to see and no doubt created these spiritual beings to watch your reactions.  It sounded like you enjoyed watching them.

You said they like to keep you happy, even laughing.  They did the same to me.  At some point you have to ask, why are they doing this?  I think it's a way to draw you in, to gain your trust. 

Your dream of seeing the world when you were falling.  Have you given thought that you were possibly being returned after an abduction?

You said that you didn't want to piss them off, why not?  They can die and be hurt the same as us humans.  They are not 'better' than you.  They are just more advanced in mental control.  They use your fear of pissing them off to help maintain control.  They have no right to invade your life, mess with your mind, and or abduct you.  In this sense, they are invaders using a different type of weapon---mental control another type of weapon is it not?Confused

What I meant was, humans on this planet aren’t capable of sending thought to each other. Can you imagine the chaos it would cause if everybody were capable of reading each other minds? I wouldn't mind seeing what would happen. 

I’m pretty sure they are only showing me what I want to see just like you said. And the making me laugh is their way of gaining my trust. I always remain skeptical no matter how much they make me laugh. I have asked them again and again, why are they doing this for me? They never answer questions like that. 

I am aware that they have several different ways of abducting people. One is physical where they come into your room and get you and take you to their ship. This has never happened to me while I'm fully conscious but I'm sure it has happened. Another way is by abducting your soul and taking it to another planet and implanting it into an available body. For me, it  is usually a blonde girl. This method also links your body on earth to the new body on another planet. When I mentioned that I knew that that dream was actually real, they seemed to be quite surprised and said that I’m not a normal human being, lol. Everybody else would just think that it was a regular dream. 

Yes, I do agree that their mental control is a type of weapon. But they don’t talk to me like the way your beings talk to you. They only speak to me on some nights and the conversation doesn’t even last a minute. They speak to me less and less as time goes on and I think that’s a good thing. I’m not worried about these guys at all.

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EYE-2-FAUX-REAL? said
Just wanted to say I am sorry that I have no correlation with your experiences dear posters and truly do not know what any of it really means.

Most everything I come up with is mere speculation and just puny theory of the moment.

I think Watcher and all you other guys want answers and I do too just unfortunately don't have any. Sad to say probably most likely will never.

By the way I thought back about it better and the ufo digital beeps that night were ten tones not eight, and it sounded like five tones and then same five tones just higher and faster.....like morse code.

~deet deet deeyeeet deet deet ~ period like a statement.

Then fast as hell and a higher octave ending sounding like a question:

~deet dit dit dit dit!?

All the tones repeated without a pause and sounded like a garden variety old texas instruments Speak'n'Spell but cleaner..... nicer speakers.

The second higher faster part sounded like it was collapsing on the slower first part of itself and sounding like it was ending in a question.

By the way my father was a musician. He and everyone in his large band and also their families were in a spaceship with me another time, all getting examined at same time with thousands of wires and somehow they all had all of their instruments and were playing a giig and everyone else was dancing like nothing was happening in a giant pink bubble or balloon!!!

So those aliens must either like rock'n'roll or have at least a sick sense of humor with us frogs?

Maybe both.

I know our sounds are much better and richer than the autistic no-eared aliens.

I picture now a frog race with humans frantically stomping behind a frog to get it to move straight and forward quickly for the human to win, not really the frog! And winning means nothing to the frog anyway Haha!

Good Luck figuring it all out dear ones!

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Interesting communications.

I worked threw the beginning years of computers to mainframe and threw hay days of the 1990's.

Then threw the PC ca-lapse of DP into the IT environment.

I understand deep hardware and software.

I worked internals and the applications software to isolate trouble.

Your communication's description sounds like an early 2 way modem handshake.  Cool....

 

Well things have been slow for me this month and that let me worm my way threw current posts at other sites.  I have become more sensitive of the negative aspects of abductions experienced by others.

I have replayed the negative aspects of my and my family abductions.  I really don't see any positive benefit of these event on me or my family.  The perspective is nice but at what cost? 

We seem as humans unable to come to grips with the simple fact that those we have placed in power over us are afraid. 

They believe that if the general population comes to grasp that those that we have placed in power over us are simply not in control.  They believe that we will simply refuse to work or function if it becomes general knowledge.  In a nut shell they don't think much of us.

I await in awe as we will soon prove them incorrect... Or affirm their mistrust.

 

Never allow yourself to be provoked.

Be positive. 

Be vigilant. 

Do one right thing then strive to find the next right thing to do.

If nothing right can be found it is ok to do nothing until one presents itself.

I await my next right thing to do.

- Watcher

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As I said in my book regarding the government, 'If you deny there is a sun then you don't have to explain why it shines each day'.

The governments throughout the world have no defense against the beings.  How can the most powerful governments in the world admit this?  They can't.  They can deny all they want and at this time, you and I and others who have met the beings unwillingly or willingly have no way to prove what we say.  Both the governments and the beings know it.  We are caught in the middle. Frown

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grasshopper said
As I said in my book regarding the government, 'If you deny there is a sun then you don't have to explain why it shines each day'.

The governments throughout the world have no defense against the beings.  How can the most powerful governments in the world admit this?  They can't.  They can deny all they want and at this time, you and I and others who have met the beings unwillingly or willingly have no way to prove what we say.  Both the governments and the beings know it.  We are caught in the middle. Frown

What book would that be? I'd like to read it.

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I worked in the past developing tools for abductee's to use.

 

If there is interest here we can develop new tools together or we can discuss tools that we have.

 

One of mine favorites was thinking threw experiences that we had in the past that were not believable on the surface.   We found that in most instances if smell or touch was involved it was worth exploring further.  

We also found that in active abduction if we felt that 'we were asleep'.  

If we experienced smell or touch sensations then we would use yanking ourselves fully awake and aware. Then using other techniques we had developed we slowly were able to take control.  

(Example: Not moving or startling ourselves was helpful.)  

Many of us were then able to observe and in some cases we were able interact before being put back into a stupor.  Over time it gained more and more control and knowledge of what really was going on.

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Hidden_Ninja, the name of my book is "The Beings:  A Story of Extraterrestrial Visitations", and can be found on Amazon.

I wrote the book in hopes that other people were having the same kind of experiences that I was, and you seem to come the closest so far.  I think there are a lot of us that don't understand what is happening to them or if they do, they don't want to admit it.  It was a tough decision to actually publish.

Let me know what you think after reading it. 

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I will most definitely check it out! The last book I read was Mars and the Lost Planet Man by Lou Baldin. Good stuff!

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