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March 25, 2015
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Would Anyone Like to Share Their Abduction/Sighting Experience?

I write for a blog and magazine called Alien Axioms. We would love to hear your story. You can remain completely Anonymous. This is not spam but a genuine reaching out to help voices be heard. The contact form is here: http://www.alienaxioms.com/contact/ I look forward to getting to know everyone on here as well.

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grasshopper said

This is a question for Watcher and Dan. 

Why are you cooperating with the beings when they are using you?  I would like to say they are using you against your own kind...other humans, but I'm not sure that "against" is the proper word.  Other humans board the craft, one of you flies the craft, and one of you stands at the end of the aisle.  The mere view of your faces / bodies / actions puts the captured humans more at ease; you are reassurance to them that they are "safe". 

You have free will / free agency to refuse the beings. 

Why are you agreeable and compliant?

 

Grasshopper

I think you misunderstood me.

I was not allowed to take part in abductions of humans and I would have protested if they had asked me too.  My unit only did military actions to the best of my recollection. 

In my short time in the military I was stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico.

I was enlisted and was one of the last enlisted flight simulator instructor.

I did nothing secrete or of high interest.  I just fixed the simulator and if assigned to the day shift I did proficiency testing of Air Force, NASA & Foreign pilots.  Pretty much an 8 hour job.

I was abducted along with my friends off base at a going away party.

Little did I or my wife know or understand at the time that we had many abductions as a children and adolescent in the past.

It was the first time we were allowed to experience a toe to toe without losing conciseness.

It is my beleif that the time i worked with them it was just before I got out of the Air Force.

I was taken from the Hospital and returned in 2-3 days to the same hospital.

My hand was all swelled up and I had a black eye when I was sent home to my wife.

The following is largely what I remember from hypnosis.  

Many parts are not I could remember them if something came up that would have prompted them to become a normal recall.  Its like they were so unimportant that I had no reason to even think about them.

I was trained in a large underground structure that I believe was on Earth but I can not say that for sure.

There were at least 1000 other humans in full body suits and helmets.  The suits were black and had buttons built into them for communications, more air,  and drugs that we could self administer to allow us to breath better.

We were trained in the same location we were deployed from.

I went threw a physical training not much different than the training we had in Basic Training in the Air Force.  But more hardware to learn to use.  In the Air Force basic training we did 25 sit ups, 25 jumping jacks, 25 squat jumps and then ran 1 1/2 miles every day.  This was on top of the days activity of what ever they had on the list.  The training during my abduction was much much more physical and much much more technical.

I was trained to climb what seemed to be never ending stairwells and then taught to rappel down strange black wax covered ropes or pipes.  The mental training was all but torture.  We were taught to contact them mentally.  The only way they got it to work for me was to leave me alone with no possibility of self or assisted rescue.  It was like I broke they just appeared from a haze patting me on the back congratulating me on my success.  I was just plain pissed off at them.  I smacked my personal trainer in the chest.

I later ended up being trained to fly a transport that took us troops from the base to battles how know where.  Sometime I would drive in formation with our craft into something that looked like a Star Gate and just pop out where ever.  Maybe when ever for all I know.

In the two missions I remember I dropped off a full load of guys that overwhelmed a 9 foot tall Red Exo Skeleton creature.  He killed many of my team members guys that were dropped off at the top of that hill.  They died 50 or 60 feet from me blown to pieces and into a red fog as my men deployed flanking the creature and securing him.  I was furious.  The action was not necessary and the men that died could have been spared if we just took on the big thing that they were there to do in the first place.

I took it on myself.  I made sure my guys were safe on the ground and hovered circling there position.  When I had made sure there were no threats I took off leaving them onsite with the other guy that I had watched drop all his men.  He was in a sense now empty and I forced him to stay as a diversion. 

I accelerated way way too fast for safety.  I traveled at a speed that they would never have expected me to.  Arriving way ahead of schedule.  I perilously crashed the transport craft into the bay at the base.  It made a hell of a mess and was horribly loud as I had known it would be.

I was out of the craft in a flash and up into the only entrance to what was a break room on the way to the bay.  I ran into a parallel hallway that was used by the kitchen personnel to restock the vending machines.  This was at the same time human and non humans were charging threw the break room in the the landing bay to see what had just happened.

With everyone gone seeing what had just happened I ran threw unmanned security post and entered into an area that contained the Craft that had crashed near Hollman in Roswell.  It was under constant guard.  It was on what can only be described as a large black stage.  With the guards surrounding it.  It had a large gash in the side of it from the crash and they had told us in training that it had a open portal inside the craft that they could not control and could not be closed.  It was the reason for the conflict that I had just left.

One or Two of the guards were not in place.  They did have M16's but did not see me charge into the room.  I quickly ran into the area that I had opened up by getting the guys to move.  Then charged into the gaping hole in the side of the craft.  I was confronted by a large black void in the middle of the craft.  I slowed a little for less than a second still running as fast as I could and then just threw myself into the void.  I had heard "Halt" yelled but I was already inside lucky no one had a shot the craft was blocking there view of me.  To them I just disappeared.

Well....   I plugged the hole so to say.  At least it was now shut.  I returned.  I don't remember how.

But I was in very hot water.  The head of the base and my tender sat with me an hour while I waited to ship out.  They were sending me home as discipline.  I was not ashamed and that could not be tolerated in front of the others there.  It saved many more men that I could imagine but my presence was no longer going to be required. (I got fired)

The threat was now gone and there was nothing to defend accept secrecy.

From what i have come to understand Corrso was range commander at White Sands.

But I know for sure that Cornal Solum was Holloman Base commander.

I am sure there are no records and I am not really interested in following that into the dirt.

- Watcher

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April 17, 2015
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grasshopper said
Thank you Black Vault for adding an area for serious discussion of the beings.

I too was brought before a group of beings; some looked human while others seemed to have animal parts such as one I remember having teddy bear ears.  I do not remember what we discussed, but throughout this period of meetings I had the "feeling" that I was on trial.  It was a bit unnerving, but since you are not allowed to remember the entire event, to keep your sanity, you minimize it.  Then one night the little one (small grey) said in my ear "Die!"  Several nights later I find myself facing a human looking being with tiny brown scales over his face.  I think to myself, why am I here and who this, when he suddenly begins to burn.  His head arched back and turned away from me as flames shot out of his mouth, and he turned to dust.  I had no feelings what so ever.  I didn't understand what had happened.  I didn't know if this was a "mind" thing implanted or if it really had happened. 

I have found the beings "play games" with you.  They prod your mind to see what your weaknesses and strengths are then play into them.  I watch.  I wait.  I remember what they let me remember, and I record it in a journal looking for patterns, looking for information about them as living beings. 

They are the same as you and me except they have greater knowledge, and with it technology we dream about having.  There are "good" ones and "bad" ones just like us.  They die just like us.  And, I have found, they have a sense of humor.

They want me to do something for them, but I am not compliant because they will not allow me to remember in my waking mind what it is they want me to do.  This angers them, and I have received various threats.

They tell me they are scientists here to study us.  They tell me I should "trust".  I do not trust them.  I see and remember what they allow me to see and remember; why should I trust them?

In my above top secret site Forum we spoke about this extensively Grasshopper.

We found patterns in our abductions.

We developed tools that we could use to break in so to say.

Take control for a second or two to do or say something during a time that we were unable to react to previously.  That is what I spent the most time on with myself and others. As I became aware of the mental blocks and was able to break free of constants.

Well the most powerful thing that we developed was that the mental suggestion path opens a mental link so to say.  It is like they impose the reaction within you.  I found that if you go utterly blank.  (Very hard)  Some had to think of only one thing.  Like a object and think about nothing else for a period of time then abruptly take control again.  It gave you access briefly to their minds not just your own.  They are opening up a two way path that they were unaware that we also could learn to use. 

I got pretty good a picking my moments.  One time they were aghast that I had the audacity to take control of myself and for a brief instant them.  I was able to tell him that I did not appreciate what and how they were doing things.  In one instance I demonstrated that I could have taken his life in that instance. I chose not to although.  He had more respect for my family after that.

We experienced as a family different experiences.  Some horrific some mundane some life changing.

We were threatened by humans mostly.  People that thought they had a good grasp on things but in most instances where only shown facets of the truth of the situation. 

We were provided help from people that would just Pop into our lives. There were times that we had to question all.  Times when we had to question ourselves.  In the end I learned just to answer anyone questions right up front and they would go away if they had intent.  They got what they wanted.  I would never allow myself to be provoked also.  I believe this is one of the main reasons that I am still breathing.I think if we talk about the tools we develop to deal with these creatures we can help each other not waste time or grief doing it themselves.  Well I have to run... Have a good weekend.  I will try to check in more often.

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I have read both of your stories (n120by60w and Grasshopper’s) and I find them to be quite fascinating. I would like to share some of my experiences as well! 

I had a dream that didn’t feel like a dream where I was lying on a cold table with my arms at my side. I woke up and tried to raise my right hand but only managed to raise it up about 1 to 2 inches because it was connected to the table somehow. The second I tried to raise my hand, I felt their fear shoot straight through me, and I was also able to tell exactly where they were standing and how far away they were from me (roughly 3-5 yards). I felt them literally jump back the second I tried to raise my right hand. I wasn't able to see them visually because I don’t think that I was able to turn my head. 

Now, let me tell you about the encounter I had with Mabi. For the record, I never shook his hand nor did I think to do so. So, it's the summer of 2012-- around May 7-9 to be exact. I wake up one morning and decide to cook breakfast. I'm in the kitchen going about my business when all of a sudden, this invisible humanoid figure just waltzes right past me--behind me and goes into my bedroom. I know right. It literally scared the living crap out of me. I had no idea what it was at the time but I managed to finish cooking breakfast. 

I go into my bedroom, cup and plate in hand, and sit down at my computer. I think I was watching Dragon Ball Z at the time. So I'm sitting there eating my food and all of a sudden, this grey alien just pops up beside my bed which was to my left. The bed was probably no farther than 3 or 4 yards from me. This guy was wearing what looked to me like a one-piece sort of skintight black suit that went all the way up to his neck just like the suits people have described on this forum. I cannot remember if he was wearing shoes or boots but I know that he wasn't wearing gloves. 

This guy is able to literally turn invisible at the snap of a finger--just that fast. I remember getting up and walking over to him and he turned invisible again. But even though he was invisible, I was still able to see his outline and he walked in front of me. He seemed to be kind of annoyed at the fact that I was still able to see him even though he had turned himself completely invisible. I closed one eye and looked with the other--still there. I then closed the other eye and looked again...--still there. I then took off my glasses, wiped my eyes, looked to see if he was still there and he was, put my glasses back on and looked again--still there. This guy wasn't alone. He was accompanied by two souls--one white and the other black. And these guys were very playful. They would go inside of a wall, peek out, and then zip across the room really fast. 

I immediately called my brother and told him what was going on and told him to come right over. He did and just before he came inside, the souls hid themselves and the extraterrestrial was still invisible but I was still able to see him. I pointed to him and my brother looked in that direction and claimed that he couldn't see anything. No surprise there. So, my brother left without ever seeing anything and as soon as he left, the souls came back out. I sat back down and began posting what was going on on an alien forum but that was pointless because no one believed me. So much for the idea. I wasn't sure what I was supposed to do. I tried asking the souls and the gray who they were and one of the souls just kept saying "no". The one that kept saying "no" sounded like a female and the other one sounded like a male. 

So, I'm sitting here watching Dragon Ball Z now unsure of what to do next. The grey is invisible now and he's lightly poking me in the back of my neck, lol. Then he walks up right beside me on the right side and becomes visible again. He's standing like1 yard from me on the right side of my chair facing forward looking at the monitor. He is also telepathic and he can hear everything I'm thinking. The same goes for the souls. I turn and look at him and I'm thinking, "Are you a God?". And he replies "I'm not a God" through telepathy. Then, all of a sudden, I realized that I need to go to the bathroom to take a quick piss. So, I go to the bathroom, close the door, and as I'm pissing, he eases the door open, and walks into the bathroom with me. He's invisible now. For the record, he seems to have two types of invisibilities--one I can see and one I cannot see. The invisibility he's using right now I can see. He eases the door open, walks into the bathroom invisible, and he was actually able to bend the stream of piss this way and that way. I thought that that was kind of cool, lol. Back in the bedroom, he does something that I wasn't expecting. He turned himself into a soul right in front of me and he began flying around with the other souls. These guys were going up into the ceiling disturbing the tiles, going through walls, and everything. 

So, it's nighttime now and for some reason I'm not scared at all. I decided to go to bed... When I went to bed the gray turned himself invisible (this time I couldn't see him at all) and walked right through the bed up next to my head and he literally put his arm through the back of my head in order to get to my teeth. Somehow I knew what he was going to do before he did it. He began pushing on each tooth checking them for some reason. Then he took out some kind of tool which I couldn't see and began scraping the plaque out of my veins and arteries. I could actually hear the scraping of the plaques. When he was done with that, he summoned a laser machine to the center of the bedroom which I couldn't see at all. And this machine was freakishly loud! I turned and looked towards the machine and it fired a laser which was either red or green--possibly red--towards my forehead. It felt warm. I have no idea how long this took but I do remember that I did not get any sleep that night. It was exhausting. When he was done with that, he floated up and went into a wall and went to sleep. I was actually able to hear him snoring.

The next day, I had a doctor's appointment and the nurse told me that my blood pressure was perfect... And I have high blood pressure... I decided to get the heck out of that apartment and that's what I did. I went back home to my mom's place and the gray followed me all the way there. Believe you me, a LOT of things happened after I moved back home. There's just so much information to disclose, there's just no way to posted all. But the good news is he doesn't keep me up at night which is good. If I had to go through his medical examinations every night at the expense of sleep, I would go completely insane, lol. 

After I moved back home, very rarely at night he would--I guess you could call it massaging--he would massage my feet and I have no idea why. He doesn't do this anymore though. He also massaged my back and told me that he would do this twice a year... Again, I have no idea why... Let me mention the most important things that I have experienced since moving back home. When I go to bed at night, he will either sleep directly below the mattress but not on the floor or in the wall next to the bed. He seems to enjoy poking me in the back every now and then as I am laying down in bed. I asked him what his name was one day and he told me to guess. I knew what his name was because I said it in a dream I had. His name is Mabi. I asked him why am I able to see him and all he said was "ESP". I have tried asking him a multitude of questions of course but he almost never responds to them. And I used to see the souls in my mom's house but not anymore. I guess they prefer to stay out of sight. Mabi used to show himself quite a bit in the past but these days he prefers to remain completely invisible.

95% of the time when I go to bed at night (this is ongoing) and lay down on my back, he'd do something that feels like he's popping a bone in my spinal cord back into place, lol. When I lay down, I have no idea when he's going to do that, so he catches me off guard every single time, lol. I have no idea what the purpose of this is neither will he tell me. You wouldn't believe the dreams I have had in that apartment and here in my mom's house. I think my most memorable dream is the one where I fought a Reptilian. I will get to that in a second. I had a dream where I woke up in a darkroom. I got up and realized that I know this place even though it's pitch black and I knew precisely where the two doors were. I tiptoed over to one of the doors, cracked it open, and peered out into a lit room, I saw a Caucasian girl (she was maybe 15 years old) standing beside a couch and she looked like she was in a daze. I gently closed the door and tiptoed over to the other door in that darkroom, opened it, and ran down the long hallway. And that's all I remember. 

There was another dream I had when I was staying in that apartment. Before I had the dream, I was laying down in bed fully awake and then I turned and looked to my left, and The face of a Gray was protruding from the wall. Once you look a grey in the eyes, they got you. You are hypnotized at this point and there's nothing you can do about it. And that's precisely what happened to me. All of a sudden, I woke up in a brightly lit white room. The room seemed to be very clean and there was just one door and the bed I was laying in--nothing else was in that room. I kept falling asleep and waking backup in that room. After a few attempts to stay awake, I looked up at the ceiling and realized that the face of an ET was protruding from it. He immediately realized that I noticed him. After I realized that he was watching me, I pulled the white sheet up over my head and went back to sleep, lol! A few seconds later, this whitish ET who looked similar to a grey, however, the head was smaller and the eyes weren't as big--yanked the sheet back and grabbed me by the wrist and led me out of the room. I recall grinning as he hid this. I have no memories of what was beyond that door. 

Another dream I also had in that apartment was the dream where I fought a Reptilian. In the dream I'm laying in bed and this Caucasian guy walks into the bedroom and stops at the foot of the bed. And he says something I can't remember. Then I noticed his that eyes looked kind of strange. Then they changed into the eyes of a reptile and I immediately jumped through the wall--sort of like phasing through the wall--to get away from him. So now I'm outside and I see the Reptilian come out through the front door. At this point I'm levitating a few yards above the ground in order to get a better look at this Reptilian. So now we're face-to-face. I'm levitating and he's on the ground. I'm smiling and I'm seeing all these images of galaxies, solar systems, star systems, etc. And the Reptilian is like, "So, you're the original creator". I stopped levitating and he jumped on me the first chance he got, knocking me to the ground. He's on top of me and I don't know what he was trying to do, however, it wasn't working. I punched him in the gut two to three times and he backed off holding his stomach and writhing in pain. This is the only dream I've ever had about a Reptilian. His head looked like that of a reptile; yellow eyes; his skin / scales were green and brownish and he didn't have a tail.

I have had dreams where I am on a moon and there are dozens of these grays just staring back at me.

I have had dreams where I'm on a spaceship looking back at planet Earth and watching the Earth get smaller and smaller as we sped away from it. 

I have had dreams where I wake up on some kind of ship. When I looked to my left I saw a very long gray arm with two fingers on it and when I looked to the right, I saw the same thing. 

I have had dreams where I'm on some kind of military base and there's a female officer who is talking to me. They seem to be testing UFOs on this base because I saw one flying in the sky as well as regular aircrafts. 

I have had dreams of being on other planets. The most memorable dream was the one where I was on a water planet and I was some kind of mermaid creature. I also saw a mermaid sitting on a rock that was protruding from the ocean and when I looked up into the sky, I saw other planets. This place was so beautiful. 

I have had a MULTITUDE of dreams where I'm in different bodies. I have bodies of children, boys, men, women, etc. But the body that I seem to be in the most is the body of a blonde Caucasian girl. She is possibly around the age of 17-20. 

I have also had dreams of being with a blonde Caucasian girl (same age range). Like this one dream where I'm in a hospital bed. I see this pretty Caucasian girl with short blonde hair enter the room and walks towards me. She walks up beside the bed, leans over, and kisses me on the lips. The kiss is cold because of the room temperature. It felt so real. Then she left. 

I have had another dream where I encountered her. I was sitting in a chair and there was a long table to my immediate left and there were people--lots of people sitting at this table but I never looked for some reason. The pretty blonde girl was standing right in front of me and I felt this overwhelming sensation that I knew this girl very well. I wanted to say "Don't I know you? ". But I just couldn't get the words out. I wish I had now. I still don't know her name. I have encountered her in many other dreams as well.

I have had a dream where I'm in some kind of town and I'm responsible for looking after these little gray children. There were like five of them starting off. And they were laughing and playing and running around me. They were also speaking perfect English! Someone gave me some kind of device that is used for dispersing large crowds. Don't ask me how I know that because I don't know. This device... I've never seen before and yet I knew what purpose it served. I never did use that device. All of a sudden, these grown up humans brought more little gray children! And there was a LOT of them! And all of them ran straight for me, lol. And I'm like, "What!? More?". The way I see it, these gray children are humans just like us! 

I've had many dreams where I'm getting around by levitating just off of the ground. I find it to be a much more efficient way of getting around. 

I have had a dream where I'm in the body of a pilot? and I'm in some kind of strange building in the middle of nowhere. I am heading towards the exit and upon exiting, I see that there is a long line of people waiting to go in. When I passed by a cute girl, I slapped her on the ass, lol. She looked at me and upon realizing who I was, she shyly said "Oh! H-Hello". 

I have had a dream where I'm in the body of a grown-up man and all of this energy and power was just surging through me. I was walking towards this Caucasian guy who was smiling the whole time. No idea what that was about. I do believe that I had a girl with me. I somehow knew that this guy was my best friend and he looked exactly like the guy from the Pentagon conference dream. 

I had a dream where I was in the Pentagon's conference room and a General introduced me to the guys sitting at the long table. He and I were standing to the back of the room not upfront in front of the projection screen. I had my arms behind my back military style. Which is funny because I have never been in the military. There was this one guy who was sitting to the right smiling. Somehow I knew that he was my best friend. 

I've had a dream where there were these shadow people whose shape resembled that of the grays and one of them was in this house. It was nighttime and these guys were in the fields and all over the yard. They were my security guards so to speak. And there were also these bright white orbs in the yard. I am not really sure what purpose they served but they were probably something like cameras. 

Had a dream where one of my subordinates betrayed me. In this dream we're standing in front of a hanger and this guy transforms himself into a snake. His snake form is as tall as the hanger. Then I transformed into a cobra and I was like 10 times as tall as he was at the very least. I said something that didn't make any sense really. I said that my name is Mabi and my master is Koloran Flash. No idea who this is. And I cracked-whipped this guy one time with the tip of my tail and that sent him flying out of my sight. All of a sudden, I'm back in bed in my apartment and there is a girl standing in one of the corners of the room and a guy standing in the other corner. The girl is complaining because I got rid of the guy who betrayed me and I said that "It's his fault for betraying me". The other dude standing in the other corner didn't say anything. I only know his name and I'm not even sure how I know that. His name is Taboo.

Mabi claims that he and the others are a part of me and he also claims that Hell really exists.

This one time when I was in my room at my Mom's place, I attempted to throw wadded piece of paper into the thrash can and it was going to miss. When I noticed that it was going to miss, Mabi rebounded it so that it would go into the thrash can. I thought that was kind of cool.

I have had dreams of being on a sandy beach on another planet just taking it easy and relaxing. I have had dreams of being at this amazing waterpark more than once in a different body. 

In another dream, I was in a race against my brother or an ET disguised as my brother. It wasn't a normal race We both had our legs crossed Indian style and we were just levitating / flying as fast as we could go! I was pretending that I was using a steering wheel, lol! We were going so fast and it was so much fun. I remember taking a tight turn and turning my make-believe steering wheel as if I were in a race car! As I said before--it was so much fun, lol! I just wish you could experience it for yourself. It was insane.

This one time when I was in the hospital for real, I dreamt that this female ET chick who sort of looked human was crouched by my right side and she was looking up at me. I was sitting in a hospital chair but the chair was more than that. It must’ve been some kind of therapeutic chair. 

Some nights--even now--when I go to bed, I can hear Mabi chatting with other ETs and they’re always at the foot of the bed. I can’t see them at all but I know that they're there. When I go to sleep, have a dream, and then wake back up, I’ll hear them talking  about the things I did in the dream. Whenever I ask them questions about myself--like “Who am I really?”, they’ll always get real quiet… Always.

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Hidden_Ninja said
I have read both of your stories (n120by60w and Grasshopper’s) and I find them to be quite fascinating. I would like to share some of my experiences as well! 

I had a dream that didn’t feel like a dream where I was lying on a cold table with my arms at my side. I woke up and tried to raise my right hand but only managed to raise it up about 1 to 2 inches because it was connected to the table somehow. The second I tried to raise my hand, I felt their fear shoot straight through me, and I was also able to tell exactly where they were standing and how far away they were from me (roughly 3-5 yards). I felt them literally jump back the second I tried to raise my right hand. I wasn't able to see them visually because I don’t think that I was able to turn my head. 

Now, let me tell you about the encounter I had with Mabi. For the record, I never shook his hand nor did I think to do so. So, it's the summer of 2012-- around May 7-9 to be exact. I wake up one morning and decide to cook breakfast. I'm in the kitchen going about my business when all of a sudden, this invisible humanoid figure just waltzes right past me--behind me and goes into my bedroom. I know right. It literally scared the living crap out of me. I had no idea what it was at the time but I managed to finish cooking breakfast. 

I go into my bedroom, cup and plate in hand, and sit down at my computer. I think I was watching Dragon Ball Z at the time. So I'm sitting there eating my food and all of a sudden, this grey alien just pops up beside my bed which was to my left. The bed was probably no farther than 3 or 4 yards from me. This guy was wearing what looked to me like a one-piece sort of skintight black suit that went all the way up to his neck just like the suits people have described on this forum. I cannot remember if he was wearing shoes or boots but I know that he wasn't wearing gloves. 

This guy is able to literally turn invisible at the snap of a finger--just that fast. I remember getting up and walking over to him and he turned invisible again. But even though he was invisible, I was still able to see his outline and he walked in front of me. He seemed to be kind of annoyed at the fact that I was still able to see him even though he had turned himself completely invisible. I closed one eye and looked with the other--still there. I then closed the other eye and looked again...--still there. I then took off my glasses, wiped my eyes, looked to see if he was still there and he was, put my glasses back on and looked again--still there. This guy wasn't alone. He was accompanied by two souls--one white and the other black. And these guys were very playful. They would go inside of a wall, peek out, and then zip across the room really fast. 

I immediately called my brother and told him what was going on and told him to come right over. He did and just before he came inside, the souls hid themselves and the extraterrestrial was still invisible but I was still able to see him. I pointed to him and my brother looked in that direction and claimed that he couldn't see anything. No surprise there. So, my brother left without ever seeing anything and as soon as he left, the souls came back out. I sat back down and began posting what was going on on an alien forum but that was pointless because no one believed me. So much for the idea. I wasn't sure what I was supposed to do. I tried asking the souls and the gray who they were and one of the souls just kept saying "no". The one that kept saying "no" sounded like a female and the other one sounded like a male. 

So, I'm sitting here watching Dragon Ball Z now unsure of what to do next. The grey is invisible now and he's lightly poking me in the back of my neck, lol. Then he walks up right beside me on the right side and becomes visible again. He's standing like1 yard from me on the right side of my chair facing forward looking at the monitor. He is also telepathic and he can hear everything I'm thinking. The same goes for the souls. I turn and look at him and I'm thinking, "Are you a God?". And he replies "I'm not a God" through telepathy. Then, all of a sudden, I realized that I need to go to the bathroom to take a quick piss. So, I go to the bathroom, close the door, and as I'm pissing, he eases the door open, and walks into the bathroom with me. He's invisible now. For the record, he seems to have two types of invisibilities--one I can see and one I cannot see. The invisibility he's using right now I can see. He eases the door open, walks into the bathroom invisible, and he was actually able to bend the stream of piss this way and that way. I thought that that was kind of cool, lol. Back in the bedroom, he does something that I wasn't expecting. He turned himself into a soul right in front of me and he began flying around with the other souls. These guys were going up into the ceiling disturbing the tiles, going through walls, and everything. 

So, it's nighttime now and for some reason I'm not scared at all. I decided to go to bed... When I went to bed the gray turned himself invisible (this time I couldn't see him at all) and walked right through the bed up next to my head and he literally put his arm through the back of my head in order to get to my teeth. Somehow I knew what he was going to do before he did it. He began pushing on each tooth checking them for some reason. Then he took out some kind of tool which I couldn't see and began scraping the plaque out of my veins and arteries. I could actually hear the scraping of the plaques. When he was done with that, he summoned a laser machine to the center of the bedroom which I couldn't see at all. And this machine was freakishly loud! I turned and looked towards the machine and it fired a laser which was either red or green--possibly red--towards my forehead. It felt warm. I have no idea how long this took but I do remember that I did not get any sleep that night. It was exhausting. When he was done with that, he floated up and went into a wall and went to sleep. I was actually able to hear him snoring.

The next day, I had a doctor's appointment and the nurse told me that my blood pressure was perfect... And I have high blood pressure... I decided to get the heck out of that apartment and that's what I did. I went back home to my mom's place and the gray followed me all the way there. Believe you me, a LOT of things happened after I moved back home. There's just so much information to disclose, there's just no way to posted all. But the good news is he doesn't keep me up at night which is good. If I had to go through his medical examinations every night at the expense of sleep, I would go completely insane, lol. 

After I moved back home, very rarely at night he would--I guess you could call it massaging--he would massage my feet and I have no idea why. He doesn't do this anymore though. He also massaged my back and told me that he would do this twice a year... Again, I have no idea why... Let me mention the most important things that I have experienced since moving back home. When I go to bed at night, he will either sleep directly below the mattress but not on the floor or in the wall next to the bed. He seems to enjoy poking me in the back every now and then as I am laying down in bed. I asked him what his name was one day and he told me to guess. I knew what his name was because I said it in a dream I had. His name is Mabi. I asked him why am I able to see him and all he said was "ESP". I have tried asking him a multitude of questions of course but he almost never responds to them. And I used to see the souls in my mom's house but not anymore. I guess they prefer to stay out of sight. Mabi used to show himself quite a bit in the past but these days he prefers to remain completely invisible.

95% of the time when I go to bed at night (this is ongoing) and lay down on my back, he'd do something that feels like he's popping a bone in my spinal cord back into place, lol. When I lay down, I have no idea when he's going to do that, so he catches me off guard every single time, lol. I have no idea what the purpose of this is neither will he tell me. You wouldn't believe the dreams I have had in that apartment and here in my mom's house. I think my most memorable dream is the one where I fought a Reptilian. I will get to that in a second. I had a dream where I woke up in a darkroom. I got up and realized that I know this place even though it's pitch black and I knew precisely where the two doors were. I tiptoed over to one of the doors, cracked it open, and peered out into a lit room, I saw a Caucasian girl (she was maybe 15 years old) standing beside a couch and she looked like she was in a daze. I gently closed the door and tiptoed over to the other door in that darkroom, opened it, and ran down the long hallway. And that's all I remember. 

There was another dream I had when I was staying in that apartment. Before I had the dream, I was laying down in bed fully awake and then I turned and looked to my left, and The face of a Gray was protruding from the wall. Once you look a grey in the eyes, they got you. You are hypnotized at this point and there's nothing you can do about it. And that's precisely what happened to me. All of a sudden, I woke up in a brightly lit white room. The room seemed to be very clean and there was just one door and the bed I was laying in--nothing else was in that room. I kept falling asleep and waking backup in that room. After a few attempts to stay awake, I looked up at the ceiling and realized that the face of an ET was protruding from it. He immediately realized that I noticed him. After I realized that he was watching me, I pulled the white sheet up over my head and went back to sleep, lol! A few seconds later, this whitish ET who looked similar to a grey, however, the head was smaller and the eyes weren't as big--yanked the sheet back and grabbed me by the wrist and led me out of the room. I recall grinning as he hid this. I have no memories of what was beyond that door. 

Another dream I also had in that apartment was the dream where I fought a Reptilian. In the dream I'm laying in bed and this Caucasian guy walks into the bedroom and stops at the foot of the bed. And he says something I can't remember. Then I noticed his that eyes looked kind of strange. Then they changed into the eyes of a reptile and I immediately jumped through the wall--sort of like phasing through the wall--to get away from him. So now I'm outside and I see the Reptilian come out through the front door. At this point I'm levitating a few yards above the ground in order to get a better look at this Reptilian. So now we're face-to-face. I'm levitating and he's on the ground. I'm smiling and I'm seeing all these images of galaxies, solar systems, star systems, etc. And the Reptilian is like, "So, you're the original creator". I stopped levitating and he jumped on me the first chance he got, knocking me to the ground. He's on top of me and I don't know what he was trying to do, however, it wasn't working. I punched him in the gut two to three times and he backed off holding his stomach and writhing in pain. This is the only dream I've ever had about a Reptilian. His head looked like that of a reptile; yellow eyes; his skin / scales were green and brownish and he didn't have a tail.

I have had dreams where I am on a moon and there are dozens of these grays just staring back at me.

I have had dreams where I'm on a spaceship looking back at planet Earth and watching the Earth get smaller and smaller as we sped away from it. 

I have had dreams where I wake up on some kind of ship. When I looked to my left I saw a very long gray arm with two fingers on it and when I looked to the right, I saw the same thing. 

I have had dreams where I'm on some kind of military base and there's a female officer who is talking to me. They seem to be testing UFOs on this base because I saw one flying in the sky as well as regular aircrafts. 

I have had dreams of being on other planets. The most memorable dream was the one where I was on a water planet and I was some kind of mermaid creature. I also saw a mermaid sitting on a rock that was protruding from the ocean and when I looked up into the sky, I saw other planets. This place was so beautiful. 

I have had a MULTITUDE of dreams where I'm in different bodies. I have bodies of children, boys, men, women, etc. But the body that I seem to be in the most is the body of a blonde Caucasian girl. She is possibly around the age of 17-20. 

I have also had dreams of being with a blonde Caucasian girl (same age range). Like this one dream where I'm in a hospital bed. I see this pretty Caucasian girl with short blonde hair enter the room and walks towards me. She walks up beside the bed, leans over, and kisses me on the lips. The kiss is cold because of the room temperature. It felt so real. Then she left. 

I have had another dream where I encountered her. I was sitting in a chair and there was a long table to my immediate left and there were people--lots of people sitting at this table but I never looked for some reason. The pretty blonde girl was standing right in front of me and I felt this overwhelming sensation that I knew this girl very well. I wanted to say "Don't I know you? ". But I just couldn't get the words out. I wish I had now. I still don't know her name. I have encountered her in many other dreams as well.

I have had a dream where I'm in some kind of town and I'm responsible for looking after these little gray children. There were like five of them starting off. And they were laughing and playing and running around me. They were also speaking perfect English! Someone gave me some kind of device that is used for dispersing large crowds. Don't ask me how I know that because I don't know. This device... I've never seen before and yet I knew what purpose it served. I never did use that device. All of a sudden, these grown up humans brought more little gray children! And there was a LOT of them! And all of them ran straight for me, lol. And I'm like, "What!? More?". The way I see it, these gray children are humans just like us! 

I've had many dreams where I'm getting around by levitating just off of the ground. I find it to be a much more efficient way of getting around. 

I have had a dream where I'm in the body of a pilot? and I'm in some kind of strange building in the middle of nowhere. I am heading towards the exit and upon exiting, I see that there is a long line of people waiting to go in. When I passed by a cute girl, I slapped her on the ass, lol. She looked at me and upon realizing who I was, she shyly said "Oh! H-Hello". 

I have had a dream where I'm in the body of a grown-up man and all of this energy and power was just surging through me. I was walking towards this Caucasian guy who was smiling the whole time. No idea what that was about. I do believe that I had a girl with me. I somehow knew that this guy was my best friend and he looked exactly like the guy from the Pentagon conference dream. 

I had a dream where I was in the Pentagon's conference room and a General introduced me to the guys sitting at the long table. He and I were standing to the back of the room not upfront in front of the projection screen. I had my arms behind my back military style. Which is funny because I have never been in the military. There was this one guy who was sitting to the right smiling. Somehow I knew that he was my best friend. 

I've had a dream where there were these shadow people whose shape resembled that of the grays and one of them was in this house. It was nighttime and these guys were in the fields and all over the yard. They were my security guards so to speak. And there were also these bright white orbs in the yard. I am not really sure what purpose they served but they were probably something like cameras. 

Had a dream where one of my subordinates betrayed me. In this dream we're standing in front of a hanger and this guy transforms himself into a snake. His snake form is as tall as the hanger. Then I transformed into a cobra and I was like 10 times as tall as he was at the very least. I said something that didn't make any sense really. I said that my name is Mabi and my master is Koloran Flash. No idea who this is. And I cracked-whipped this guy one time with the tip of my tail and that sent him flying out of my sight. All of a sudden, I'm back in bed in my apartment and there is a girl standing in one of the corners of the room and a guy standing in the other corner. The girl is complaining because I got rid of the guy who betrayed me and I said that "It's his fault for betraying me". The other dude standing in the other corner didn't say anything. I only know his name and I'm not even sure how I know that. His name is Taboo.

Mabi claims that he and the others are a part of me and he also claims that Hell really exists.

This one time when I was in my room at my Mom's place, I attempted to throw wadded piece of paper into the thrash can and it was going to miss. When I noticed that it was going to miss, Mabi rebounded it so that it would go into the thrash can. I thought that was kind of cool.

I have had dreams of being on a sandy beach on another planet just taking it easy and relaxing. I have had dreams of being at this amazing waterpark more than once in a different body. 

In another dream, I was in a race against my brother or an ET disguised as my brother. It wasn't a normal race We both had our legs crossed Indian style and we were just levitating / flying as fast as we could go! I was pretending that I was using a steering wheel, lol! We were going so fast and it was so much fun. I remember taking a tight turn and turning my make-believe steering wheel as if I were in a race car! As I said before--it was so much fun, lol! I just wish you could experience it for yourself. It was insane.

This one time when I was in the hospital for real, I dreamt that this female ET chick who sort of looked human was crouched by my right side and she was looking up at me. I was sitting in a hospital chair but the chair was more than that. It must’ve been some kind of therapeutic chair. 

Some nights--even now--when I go to bed, I can hear Mabi chatting with other ETs and they’re always at the foot of the bed. I can’t see them at all but I know that they're there. When I go to sleep, have a dream, and then wake back up, I’ll hear them talking  about the things I did in the dream. Whenever I ask them questions about myself--like “Who am I really?”, they’ll always get real quiet… Always.

Hidden_Ninja, your experiences sound much like mine.  Although they physically come for me, and there are times that I am "awake and aware" when they come, what I remember seems to me to be in a "dream state" so I refer to it as "I am dreaming" then relate my story. 

If you haven't done so already keep a journal  recording every detail that you can remember.  As other remembrances pop up record them as well.  This helped me put what was happening into a perspective I could handle.  Also record new bruises, blemishes, and needle / puncture marks.

Your story seems to relate that they live within your walls and that there are 3 of them which you describe as one being the body and the  other two as souls.  I suspect that they are three separate entities.  I also have three living with me.  Instead of faces I see small blinking balls that fly around.  I was told they would protect me from what I don't know, yet when other entities come I am  forewarned and told there is nothing they can do to stop it. I have been told they are scientists studying  us and this I do believe otherwise why leave three?  One can leave, one can sleep and one can watch, but usually at some point during the night I will see all three blink within or on my eyes.

For you, Hidden_Ninja and for Watcher, I know they sat up situations  tailored just for me to watch my specific reactions and most likely did the  same for each of you.  Watcher is military so his experiences reflect battles; Hidden_Ninja likes girls they even put him in the body of a girl; I am a mother, grandmother and  retired nurse, and my "dreams" have all been centered in the area of caretaker. 

As much as I would like to know more about them as living beings, I want them to go away on one hand yet on the other hand, I want them to stay because they fascinate me.  BUT I do not trust them because they are manipulators.  What you see is not always what is really there.  They are shape-shifters.  For me what has been most difficult is not to allow them to enter my reality yet they are there.

As Watcher says they are mind readers and that is how they prefer to communicate.  They have literally glued my mouth shut so that I am forced to send thought.  Watcher, have you been aware of receiving conflicting thoughts from them?  You pick up the intended thought but there is another one with it not intended.  You are so right, Watcher, to keep a "blank" mind when you can.

I have a question for both of you.  Are you afraid of them?

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grasshopper said

This is a question for Watcher and Dan. 

Why are you cooperating with the beings when they are using you?  I would like to say they are using you against your own kind...other humans, but I'm not sure that "against" is the proper word.  Other humans board the craft, one of you flies the craft, and one of you stands at the end of the aisle.  The mere view of your faces / bodies / actions puts the captured humans more at ease; you are reassurance to them that they are "safe". 

You have free will / free agency to refuse the beings. 

Why are you agreeable and compliant?

 

Grasshopper

I think you misunderstood me.

I was not allowed to take part in abductions of humans and I would have protested if they had asked me too.  My unit only did military actions to the best of my recollection. 

In my short time in the military I was stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico.

I was enlisted and was one of the last enlisted flight simulator instructor.

I did nothing secrete or of high interest.  I just fixed the simulator and if assigned to the day shift I did proficiency testing of Air Force, NASA & Foreign pilots.  Pretty much an 8 hour job.

I was abducted along with my friends off base at a going away party.

Little did I or my wife know or understand at the time that we had many abductions as a children and adolescent in the past.

It was the first time we were allowed to experience a toe to toe without losing conciseness.

It is my beleif that the time i worked with them it was just before I got out of the Air Force.

I was taken from the Hospital and returned in 2-3 days to the same hospital.

My hand was all swelled up and I had a black eye when I was sent home to my wife.

The following is largely what I remember from hypnosis.  

Many parts are not I could remember them if something came up that would have prompted them to become a normal recall.  Its like they were so unimportant that I had no reason to even think about them.

I was trained in a large underground structure that I believe was on Earth but I can not say that for sure.

There were at least 1000 other humans in full body suits and helmets.  The suits were black and had buttons built into them for communications, more air,  and drugs that we could self administer to allow us to breath better.

We were trained in the same location we were deployed from.

I went threw a physical training not much different than the training we had in Basic Training in the Air Force.  But more hardware to learn to use.  In the Air Force basic training we did 25 sit ups, 25 jumping jacks, 25 squat jumps and then ran 1 1/2 miles every day.  This was on top of the days activity of what ever they had on the list.  The training during my abduction was much much more physical and much much more technical.

I was trained to climb what seemed to be never ending stairwells and then taught to rappel down strange black wax covered ropes or pipes.  The mental training was all but torture.  We were taught to contact them mentally.  The only way they got it to work for me was to leave me alone with no possibility of self or assisted rescue.  It was like I broke they just appeared from a haze patting me on the back congratulating me on my success.  I was just plain pissed off at them.  I smacked my personal trainer in the chest.

I later ended up being trained to fly a transport that took us troops from the base to battles how know where.  Sometime I would drive in formation with our craft into something that looked like a Star Gate and just pop out where ever.  Maybe when ever for all I know.

In the two missions I remember I dropped off a full load of guys that overwhelmed a 9 foot tall Red Exo Skeleton creature.  He killed many of my team members guys that were dropped off at the top of that hill.  They died 50 or 60 feet from me blown to pieces and into a red fog as my men deployed flanking the creature and securing him.  I was furious.  The action was not necessary and the men that died could have been spared if we just took on the big thing that they were there to do in the first place.

I took it on myself.  I made sure my guys were safe on the ground and hovered circling there position.  When I had made sure there were no threats I took off leaving them onsite with the other guy that I had watched drop all his men.  He was in a sense now empty and I forced him to stay as a diversion. 

I accelerated way way too fast for safety.  I traveled at a speed that they would never have expected me to.  Arriving way ahead of schedule.  I perilously crashed the transport craft into the bay at the base.  It made a hell of a mess and was horribly loud as I had known it would be.

I was out of the craft in a flash and up into the only entrance to what was a break room on the way to the bay.  I ran into a parallel hallway that was used by the kitchen personnel to restock the vending machines.  This was at the same time human and non humans were charging threw the break room in the the landing bay to see what had just happened.

With everyone gone seeing what had just happened I ran threw unmanned security post and entered into an area that contained the Craft that had crashed near Hollman in Roswell.  It was under constant guard.  It was on what can only be described as a large black stage.  With the guards surrounding it.  It had a large gash in the side of it from the crash and they had told us in training that it had a open portal inside the craft that they could not control and could not be closed.  It was the reason for the conflict that I had just left.

One or Two of the guards were not in place.  They did have M16's but did not see me charge into the room.  I quickly ran into the area that I had opened up by getting the guys to move.  Then charged into the gaping hole in the side of the craft.  I was confronted by a large black void in the middle of the craft.  I slowed a little for less than a second still running as fast as I could and then just threw myself into the void.  I had heard "Halt" yelled but I was already inside lucky no one had a shot the craft was blocking there view of me.  To them I just disappeared.

Well....   I plugged the hole so to say.  At least it was now shut.  I returned.  I don't remember how.

But I was in very hot water.  The head of the base and my tender sat with me an hour while I waited to ship out.  They were sending me home as discipline.  I was not ashamed and that could not be tolerated in front of the others there.  It saved many more men that I could imagine but my presence was no longer going to be required. (I got fired)

The threat was now gone and there was nothing to defend accept secrecy.

From what i have come to understand Corrso was range commander at White Sands.

But I know for sure that Cornal Solum was Holloman Base commander.

I am sure there are no records and I am not really interested in following that into the dirt.

n120by60w said

grasshopper said

This is a question for Watcher and Dan. 

Why are you cooperating with the beings when they are using you?  I would like to say they are using you against your own kind...other humans, but I'm not sure that "against" is the proper word.  Other humans board the craft, one of you flies the craft, and one of you stands at the end of the aisle.  The mere view of your faces / bodies / actions puts the captured humans more at ease; you are reassurance to them that they are "safe". 

You have free will / free agency to refuse the beings. 

Why are you agreeable and compliant?

 

Grasshopper

I think you misunderstood me.

I was not allowed to take part in abductions of humans and I would have protested if they had asked me too.  My unit only did military actions to the best of my recollection. 

In my short time in the military I was stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico.

I was enlisted and was one of the last enlisted flight simulator instructor.

I did nothing secrete or of high interest.  I just fixed the simulator and if assigned to the day shift I did proficiency testing of Air Force, NASA & Foreign pilots.  Pretty much an 8 hour job.

I was abducted along with my friends off base at a going away party.

Little did I or my wife know or understand at the time that we had many abductions as a children and adolescent in the past.

It was the first time we were allowed to experience a toe to toe without losing conciseness.

It is my beleif that the time i worked with them it was just before I got out of the Air Force.

I was taken from the Hospital and returned in 2-3 days to the same hospital.

My hand was all swelled up and I had a black eye when I was sent home to my wife.

The following is largely what I remember from hypnosis.  

Many parts are not I could remember them if something came up that would have prompted them to become a normal recall.  Its like they were so unimportant that I had no reason to even think about them.

I was trained in a large underground structure that I believe was on Earth but I can not say that for sure.

There were at least 1000 other humans in full body suits and helmets.  The suits were black and had buttons built into them for communications, more air,  and drugs that we could self administer to allow us to breath better.

We were trained in the same location we were deployed from.

I went threw a physical training not much different than the training we had in Basic Training in the Air Force.  But more hardware to learn to use.  In the Air Force basic training we did 25 sit ups, 25 jumping jacks, 25 squat jumps and then ran 1 1/2 miles every day.  This was on top of the days activity of what ever they had on the list.  The training during my abduction was much much more physical and much much more technical.

I was trained to climb what seemed to be never ending stairwells and then taught to rappel down strange black wax covered ropes or pipes.  The mental training was all but torture.  We were taught to contact them mentally.  The only way they got it to work for me was to leave me alone with no possibility of self or assisted rescue.  It was like I broke they just appeared from a haze patting me on the back congratulating me on my success.  I was just plain pissed off at them.  I smacked my personal trainer in the chest.

I later ended up being trained to fly a transport that took us troops from the base to battles how know where.  Sometime I would drive in formation with our craft into something that looked like a Star Gate and just pop out where ever.  Maybe when ever for all I know.

In the two missions I remember I dropped off a full load of guys that overwhelmed a 9 foot tall Red Exo Skeleton creature.  He killed many of my team members guys that were dropped off at the top of that hill.  They died 50 or 60 feet from me blown to pieces and into a red fog as my men deployed flanking the creature and securing him.  I was furious.  The action was not necessary and the men that died could have been spared if we just took on the big thing that they were there to do in the first place.

I took it on myself.  I made sure my guys were safe on the ground and hovered circling there position.  When I had made sure there were no threats I took off leaving them onsite with the other guy that I had watched drop all his men.  He was in a sense now empty and I forced him to stay as a diversion. 

I accelerated way way too fast for safety.  I traveled at a speed that they would never have expected me to.  Arriving way ahead of schedule.  I perilously crashed the transport craft into the bay at the base.  It made a hell of a mess and was horribly loud as I had known it would be.

I was out of the craft in a flash and up into the only entrance to what was a break room on the way to the bay.  I ran into a parallel hallway that was used by the kitchen personnel to restock the vending machines.  This was at the same time human and non humans were charging threw the break room in the the landing bay to see what had just happened.

With everyone gone seeing what had just happened I ran threw unmanned security post and entered into an area that contained the Craft that had crashed near Hollman in Roswell.  It was under constant guard.  It was on what can only be described as a large black stage.  With the guards surrounding it.  It had a large gash in the side of it from the crash and they had told us in training that it had a open portal inside the craft that they could not control and could not be closed.  It was the reason for the conflict that I had just left.

One or Two of the guards were not in place.  They did have M16's but did not see me charge into the room.  I quickly ran into the area that I had opened up by getting the guys to move.  Then charged into the gaping hole in the side of the craft.  I was confronted by a large black void in the middle of the craft.  I slowed a little for less than a second still running as fast as I could and then just threw myself into the void.  I had heard "Halt" yelled but I was already inside lucky no one had a shot the craft was blocking there view of me.  To them I just disappeared.

Well....   I plugged the hole so to say.  At least it was now shut.  I returned.  I don't remember how.

But I was in very hot water.  The head of the base and my tender sat with me an hour while I waited to ship out.  They were sending me home as discipline.  I was not ashamed and that could not be tolerated in front of the others there.  It saved many more men that I could imagine but my presence was no longer going to be required. (I got fired)

The threat was now gone and there was nothing to defend accept secrecy.

From what i have come to understand Corrso was range commander at White Sands.

But I know for sure that Cornal Solum was Holloman Base commander.

I am sure there are no records and I am not really interested in following that into the dirt.

I replied to both you and Hidden_Ninja in a post to Hidden_Ninja.  I called you Watcher.  Are you Watcher or Dan?  Sorry if I used the wrong name. 

 As I read your story what you relate sounds as if it was an actual event.  Was it? 

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grasshopper said

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grasshopper said

This is a question for Watcher and Dan. 

Why are you cooperating with the beings when they are using you?  I would like to say they are using you against your own kind...other humans, but I'm not sure that "against" is the proper word.  Other humans board the craft, one of you flies the craft, and one of you stands at the end of the aisle.  The mere view of your faces / bodies / actions puts the captured humans more at ease; you are reassurance to them that they are "safe". 

You have free will / free agency to refuse the beings. 

Why are you agreeable and compliant?

 

Grasshopper

I think you misunderstood me.

I was not allowed to take part in abductions of humans and I would have protested if they had asked me too.  My unit only did military actions to the best of my recollection. 

In my short time in the military I was stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico.

I was enlisted and was one of the last enlisted flight simulator instructor.

I did nothing secrete or of high interest.  I just fixed the simulator and if assigned to the day shift I did proficiency testing of Air Force, NASA & Foreign pilots.  Pretty much an 8 hour job.

I was abducted along with my friends off base at a going away party.

Little did I or my wife know or understand at the time that we had many abductions as a children and adolescent in the past.

It was the first time we were allowed to experience a toe to toe without losing conciseness.

It is my beleif that the time i worked with them it was just before I got out of the Air Force.

I was taken from the Hospital and returned in 2-3 days to the same hospital.

My hand was all swelled up and I had a black eye when I was sent home to my wife.

The following is largely what I remember from hypnosis.  

Many parts are not I could remember them if something came up that would have prompted them to become a normal recall.  Its like they were so unimportant that I had no reason to even think about them.

I was trained in a large underground structure that I believe was on Earth but I can not say that for sure.

There were at least 1000 other humans in full body suits and helmets.  The suits were black and had buttons built into them for communications, more air,  and drugs that we could self administer to allow us to breath better.

We were trained in the same location we were deployed from.

I went threw a physical training not much different than the training we had in Basic Training in the Air Force.  But more hardware to learn to use.  In the Air Force basic training we did 25 sit ups, 25 jumping jacks, 25 squat jumps and then ran 1 1/2 miles every day.  This was on top of the days activity of what ever they had on the list.  The training during my abduction was much much more physical and much much more technical.

I was trained to climb what seemed to be never ending stairwells and then taught to rappel down strange black wax covered ropes or pipes.  The mental training was all but torture.  We were taught to contact them mentally.  The only way they got it to work for me was to leave me alone with no possibility of self or assisted rescue.  It was like I broke they just appeared from a haze patting me on the back congratulating me on my success.  I was just plain pissed off at them.  I smacked my personal trainer in the chest.

I later ended up being trained to fly a transport that took us troops from the base to battles how know where.  Sometime I would drive in formation with our craft into something that looked like a Star Gate and just pop out where ever.  Maybe when ever for all I know.

In the two missions I remember I dropped off a full load of guys that overwhelmed a 9 foot tall Red Exo Skeleton creature.  He killed many of my team members guys that were dropped off at the top of that hill.  They died 50 or 60 feet from me blown to pieces and into a red fog as my men deployed flanking the creature and securing him.  I was furious.  The action was not necessary and the men that died could have been spared if we just took on the big thing that they were there to do in the first place.

I took it on myself.  I made sure my guys were safe on the ground and hovered circling there position.  When I had made sure there were no threats I took off leaving them onsite with the other guy that I had watched drop all his men.  He was in a sense now empty and I forced him to stay as a diversion. 

I accelerated way way too fast for safety.  I traveled at a speed that they would never have expected me to.  Arriving way ahead of schedule.  I perilously crashed the transport craft into the bay at the base.  It made a hell of a mess and was horribly loud as I had known it would be.

I was out of the craft in a flash and up into the only entrance to what was a break room on the way to the bay.  I ran into a parallel hallway that was used by the kitchen personnel to restock the vending machines.  This was at the same time human and non humans were charging threw the break room in the the landing bay to see what had just happened.

With everyone gone seeing what had just happened I ran threw unmanned security post and entered into an area that contained the Craft that had crashed near Hollman in Roswell.  It was under constant guard.  It was on what can only be described as a large black stage.  With the guards surrounding it.  It had a large gash in the side of it from the crash and they had told us in training that it had a open portal inside the craft that they could not control and could not be closed.  It was the reason for the conflict that I had just left.

One or Two of the guards were not in place.  They did have M16's but did not see me charge into the room.  I quickly ran into the area that I had opened up by getting the guys to move.  Then charged into the gaping hole in the side of the craft.  I was confronted by a large black void in the middle of the craft.  I slowed a little for less than a second still running as fast as I could and then just threw myself into the void.  I had heard "Halt" yelled but I was already inside lucky no one had a shot the craft was blocking there view of me.  To them I just disappeared.

Well....   I plugged the hole so to say.  At least it was now shut.  I returned.  I don't remember how.

But I was in very hot water.  The head of the base and my tender sat with me an hour while I waited to ship out.  They were sending me home as discipline.  I was not ashamed and that could not be tolerated in front of the others there.  It saved many more men that I could imagine but my presence was no longer going to be required. (I got fired)

The threat was now gone and there was nothing to defend accept secrecy.

From what i have come to understand Corrso was range commander at White Sands.

But I know for sure that Cornal Solum was Holloman Base commander.

I am sure there are no records and I am not really interested in following that into the dirt.

n120by60w said

grasshopper said

This is a question for Watcher and Dan. 

Why are you cooperating with the beings when they are using you?  I would like to say they are using you against your own kind...other humans, but I'm not sure that "against" is the proper word.  Other humans board the craft, one of you flies the craft, and one of you stands at the end of the aisle.  The mere view of your faces / bodies / actions puts the captured humans more at ease; you are reassurance to them that they are "safe". 

You have free will / free agency to refuse the beings. 

Why are you agreeable and compliant?

 

Grasshopper

I think you misunderstood me.

I was not allowed to take part in abductions of humans and I would have protested if they had asked me too.  My unit only did military actions to the best of my recollection. 

In my short time in the military I was stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico.

I was enlisted and was one of the last enlisted flight simulator instructor.

I did nothing secrete or of high interest.  I just fixed the simulator and if assigned to the day shift I did proficiency testing of Air Force, NASA & Foreign pilots.  Pretty much an 8 hour job.

I was abducted along with my friends off base at a going away party.

Little did I or my wife know or understand at the time that we had many abductions as a children and adolescent in the past.

It was the first time we were allowed to experience a toe to toe without losing conciseness.

It is my beleif that the time i worked with them it was just before I got out of the Air Force.

I was taken from the Hospital and returned in 2-3 days to the same hospital.

My hand was all swelled up and I had a black eye when I was sent home to my wife.

The following is largely what I remember from hypnosis.  

Many parts are not I could remember them if something came up that would have prompted them to become a normal recall.  Its like they were so unimportant that I had no reason to even think about them.

I was trained in a large underground structure that I believe was on Earth but I can not say that for sure.

There were at least 1000 other humans in full body suits and helmets.  The suits were black and had buttons built into them for communications, more air,  and drugs that we could self administer to allow us to breath better.

We were trained in the same location we were deployed from.

I went threw a physical training not much different than the training we had in Basic Training in the Air Force.  But more hardware to learn to use.  In the Air Force basic training we did 25 sit ups, 25 jumping jacks, 25 squat jumps and then ran 1 1/2 miles every day.  This was on top of the days activity of what ever they had on the list.  The training during my abduction was much much more physical and much much more technical.

I was trained to climb what seemed to be never ending stairwells and then taught to rappel down strange black wax covered ropes or pipes.  The mental training was all but torture.  We were taught to contact them mentally.  The only way they got it to work for me was to leave me alone with no possibility of self or assisted rescue.  It was like I broke they just appeared from a haze patting me on the back congratulating me on my success.  I was just plain pissed off at them.  I smacked my personal trainer in the chest.

I later ended up being trained to fly a transport that took us troops from the base to battles how know where.  Sometime I would drive in formation with our craft into something that looked like a Star Gate and just pop out where ever.  Maybe when ever for all I know.

In the two missions I remember I dropped off a full load of guys that overwhelmed a 9 foot tall Red Exo Skeleton creature.  He killed many of my team members guys that were dropped off at the top of that hill.  They died 50 or 60 feet from me blown to pieces and into a red fog as my men deployed flanking the creature and securing him.  I was furious.  The action was not necessary and the men that died could have been spared if we just took on the big thing that they were there to do in the first place.

I took it on myself.  I made sure my guys were safe on the ground and hovered circling there position.  When I had made sure there were no threats I took off leaving them onsite with the other guy that I had watched drop all his men.  He was in a sense now empty and I forced him to stay as a diversion. 

I accelerated way way too fast for safety.  I traveled at a speed that they would never have expected me to.  Arriving way ahead of schedule.  I perilously crashed the transport craft into the bay at the base.  It made a hell of a mess and was horribly loud as I had known it would be.

I was out of the craft in a flash and up into the only entrance to what was a break room on the way to the bay.  I ran into a parallel hallway that was used by the kitchen personnel to restock the vending machines.  This was at the same time human and non humans were charging threw the break room in the the landing bay to see what had just happened.

With everyone gone seeing what had just happened I ran threw unmanned security post and entered into an area that contained the Craft that had crashed near Hollman in Roswell.  It was under constant guard.  It was on what can only be described as a large black stage.  With the guards surrounding it.  It had a large gash in the side of it from the crash and they had told us in training that it had a open portal inside the craft that they could not control and could not be closed.  It was the reason for the conflict that I had just left.

One or Two of the guards were not in place.  They did have M16's but did not see me charge into the room.  I quickly ran into the area that I had opened up by getting the guys to move.  Then charged into the gaping hole in the side of the craft.  I was confronted by a large black void in the middle of the craft.  I slowed a little for less than a second still running as fast as I could and then just threw myself into the void.  I had heard "Halt" yelled but I was already inside lucky no one had a shot the craft was blocking there view of me.  To them I just disappeared.

Well....   I plugged the hole so to say.  At least it was now shut.  I returned.  I don't remember how.

But I was in very hot water.  The head of the base and my tender sat with me an hour while I waited to ship out.  They were sending me home as discipline.  I was not ashamed and that could not be tolerated in front of the others there.  It saved many more men that I could imagine but my presence was no longer going to be required. (I got fired)

The threat was now gone and there was nothing to defend accept secrecy.

From what i have come to understand Corrso was range commander at White Sands.

But I know for sure that Cornal Solum was Holloman Base commander.

I am sure there are no records and I am not really interested in following that into the dirt.

I replied to both you and Hidden_Ninja in a post to Hidden_Ninja.  I called you Watcher.  Are you Watcher or Dan?  Sorry if I used the wrong name. 

 As I read your story what you relate sounds as if it was an actual event.  Was it? 

I'm not afraid of them and my encounter with the Grey called Mabi was an actual real life experience. Aside from that, I have never been abducted but I have had dreams of being on a ship.

You said that at least three entities are always with you. I bet they follow you everywhere you go just like me. I've noticed that the beings who watch over me sometimes take a break for a few days. This includes Mabi. Whenever he's not here, a female ET named Lij fills in for him. Her name sounds like "Liz". She introduced herself to me a few years back and when she spelled out her name during a car ride, I was actually able to see the 3D letters. It was very cool.

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Reprint -

Hi Ho - Black Vault!

My Handel is "Watcher".

I spoke to Mr Greenewald via Email before posting this.
I was concerned that I might be stepping on someones toes posting this here.
I would like to fit in with the current Abductee community.
Mr Greenewald thought that I might fit in here.

So here go's

Feel free to speak your mind.

I have a little experience.
I am over nearing 60 years old.
I have nothing to gain by this but I do have perspective.
I know there a lot of Abductee's that feel that they have no where to go.

I can speak as one that has been threw a group abduction while I was in the US Air Force Stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico in the 1970's.

I have had more experiences with & without my family periodically ever sense.

These are not wakening up from sleep events.
They have been in the after noon & at night.
But in each event I have been allowed to have interaction more & more over time.

During abductions:

I have been allowed to speak on my own at times.
I have been asked to voice my opinions on the questions that the abductors I had were posed to me.
I was trained to do a few things.

I have been been threw the bunny hole to speak.
With some experience's under my belt I am open to questions or speculation posed by other Abductee's
& those interested in investigating the truth out for themselves.

I am interested in the technical aspects of what I & others have been threw.
I am interested in assisting others come to terms with there experiences.

Please respect the risk I and my family take in opening this conversation.

I am not interested in bashing your beliefs or you bashing mine.
The ball is in your court.

--------------- I thought a reprint was in order -----------------------

I will speak truthfully here as long as I am allowed to.

I and my family have been under a lot of pressure over the years,

I do acknowledge that we have been allowed to speak out.

This in it self is progress.

In the past this has not been allowed.

Abductee's myself included feel isolated and have been persecuted over the years.

It is my hope that we can be a positive force for change in perception and the reality of this subject.

Lets do a start over. 

Balls in our court. 

Lets please keep posts to one subject per post so we can see some flow of thought here.

One subject per post will allow us to flow threw an ongoing conversation.

I am not saying not to make mutable posts each post can be answered or commented on separately.

- Watcher

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I replied to both you and Hidden_Ninja in a post to Hidden_Ninja.  I called you Watcher.  Are you Watcher or Dan?  Sorry if I used the wrong name. 

 As I read your story what you relate sounds as if it was an actual event.  Was it? 

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Grasshopper,

I am n120by60w here I go by Watcher.

My abduction during my military enlistment was a real event.

I was with a group my wife was with me.

The craft caused the aircraft at Holloman to be scrambled after it.

Decades after the Air Force Abduction I had flashbacks of the event that was effecting my job as a computer field repair tech.  I ended up working with a Mufon therapist that helped me with my flashbacks of of that abduction.  She touted herself as the same person that worked with Travis Walton.   She said that she worked for 8 hours with him.  She worked for over 40 with me over months.  She was not forthcoming with what she promised me going into the sessions.   However I could function to some extent after working with her.  I guess we both got what we needed out of the sessions.

So in short the answer is Yes it was real.  

I assume I am speaking to other abductees and sometimes forget people are not in the same place as I am in there search for the their truth working threw their experiences.  

If I am unclear or confusing just speak up.  

Some of my experiences that I speak about here are from concise awake memories.

Some of them were bits and pieces that came to me in flashbacks.

However some of them were hypnosis sessions that lasted 40 hours spanning over a few months.

I will take time out to make sure that I am clear to you if it is something that is remembered only threw hypnosis.  Please use your own knowledge of these events to judge mine for yourself.  You need to know that it is pretty traumatic for me to talk about too...

I want to be frank and open in our conversations.  Your truth may not be mine.

And that is Ok....

Your friend....

- Watcher

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Watcher:  This format repeats everything ad nauseum making it difficult to carry on a general conversation easily followed by everyone.  So complying to your request to make one answer in a conversational mode is impossible.

Thank you for clarifying your experience.  I have seen what I call the 'skeleton man' but he was not an enemy; he was part of the beings group, and he was white as I would a skeleton to be.

I believe your story.  I have no reason not to believe it. 

During this battle you stated that you lost men unnecessarily but you have, from what you say, no way of verifying that there was an actual loss of men, no way to check, is that correct? 

You said in one of your posts that you found patterns.  Were these men who were destroyed the same that helped identify patterns?  Can you share these patterns with us? 

This is for Hidden_Ninja:  Yep, they go everywhere with me, and at times have created a bit of mischief which no one understood except me.  Yes there are a couple of days when things are 'quiet', but even then at least one remains.

Do you see little blinking balls or is it only the outline of their form?

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