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December 15, 2014
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Kon nichi wa Watcher: I have been following your abduction topic. Most abductees do not seem to remember enough about the experiences so you are not getting lots of reports. Although I have not been abducted, I am a contactee. Extraterrestrials send me communications all the time now. This began as Remote Viewing, but the beings I was viewing actually began channeling information to me, and I can communicate back. I have asked them for a ride in one of their ships, but they say if they take me, they will probably keep me so I should stay on earth as long as possible.

After I read your last post, I asked what it was about. They say you were seeing yourself back in time over 3 million years. It was a meeting of the Galactic Federation council. You were the Lemurian representative from earth. The Nazi who they also call Anunnaki was trying to lay claim to the earth. There was aCosmic War over this dispute which exploded the fifth planet and ruined Venus and Mars. That is what they tell me anyway.

There is danger in reporting this information. I kept it to myself for years, but my ET contacts told me that I had been discovered and was in mortal danger. I would actually be safer if I reported selected parts of what they had told me.

When you can go out and see the universe, who wants to go look at a Russian submarine? (Melvin C. Riley, US Army Remote Viewer)

February 11, 2015
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Remote Viewing Hmmm....

Taeko - In the early 1990's I was having flashback of my late 1970's abduction in New Mexico.
It was becoming harder and harder for me to function at work.
The flashbacks would come in small burst of an experience lasting 10 to 30 seconds.
The worst one lasted for about 3 minutes.
I could not control them.
I would freeze where I was and just ride them out.
It sometimes was triggered by an event or an object.
I did not react to them I would just observe them. Like watching a movie or something.

I had one while driving so my wife and I chose to get help.

Mufon offered and had me in therapy for over a month.
At then end of 40 hours of hypnosis I was handed objects and quizzed about their significance.
Taeko one of them was a "troglodyte".

I answered all their questions.
I wish I was given a chance to ask questions of my own.
I was not trained for any of them.
I had no trouble answering any of them with the exception of complaining about finding the right words for the answers in English.
Taeko I only know English.
Yet I would be babbling on in another language and the therapist would interrupt me to say.
Answer in English please.

I was put in the situation that you are Taeko in the 1990's.
I found that if I simply answer questions and never never never could be provoked to retaliation.
It takes away the license of those that wish us harm.
Honest frank talk........ Not overly thought over........ Just the truth brought me threw the dark times.

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March 15, 2015
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Hi Watcher,

I'm new to posting in the forums and I hope I'm not out of line asking a few questions about your abduction experience.  1) I was hoping you could tell me about the questions they asked you.  2) I'd like to know if there were any specific methods of communication they may have had amongst each other and with you; how different were their communications with you than amongst themselves.  3)  Were there different types of beings involved in your training than those that conducted your interview?  You mention one individual that you had seen more than once that you didn't get along with.  Was he the only known being during your interview?

Sorry so curious, hope you can put up with me.

March 16, 2015
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Thank you Black Vault for adding an area for serious discussion of the beings.

I too was brought before a group of beings; some looked human while others seemed to have animal parts such as one I remember having teddy bear ears.  I do not remember what we discussed, but throughout this period of meetings I had the "feeling" that I was on trial.  It was a bit unnerving, but since you are not allowed to remember the entire event, to keep your sanity, you minimize it.  Then one night the little one (small grey) said in my ear "Die!"  Several nights later I find myself facing a human looking being with tiny brown scales over his face.  I think to myself, why am I here and who this, when he suddenly begins to burn.  His head arched back and turned away from me as flames shot out of his mouth, and he turned to dust.  I had no feelings what so ever.  I didn't understand what had happened.  I didn't know if this was a "mind" thing implanted or if it really had happened. 

I have found the beings "play games" with you.  They prod your mind to see what your weaknesses and strengths are then play into them.  I watch.  I wait.  I remember what they let me remember, and I record it in a journal looking for patterns, looking for information about them as living beings. 

They are the same as you and me except they have greater knowledge, and with it technology we dream about having.  There are "good" ones and "bad" ones just like us.  They die just like us.  And, I have found, they have a sense of humor.

They want me to do something for them, but I am not compliant because they will not allow me to remember in my waking mind what it is they want me to do.  This angers them, and I have received various threats.

They tell me they are scientists here to study us.  They tell me I should "trust".  I do not trust them.  I see and remember what they allow me to see and remember; why should I trust them?

March 16, 2015
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MrSmith said
Hello "Watcher" are you still up for some converstation, I would like to chat, I have had experiences since a child, would be interesting to see if any of our details match up.

Sure Mr Smith anytime you want to talk feel free.

I am open to anything you would like to discuss.

 

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March 16, 2015
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zingo211 said
Hi Watcher,

I'm new to posting in the forums and I hope I'm not out of line asking a few questions about your abduction experience.  1) I was hoping you could tell me about the questions they asked you.  2) I'd like to know if there were any specific methods of communication they may have had amongst each other and with you; how different were their communications with you than amongst themselves.  3)  Were there different types of beings involved in your training than those that conducted your interview?  You mention one individual that you had seen more than once that you didn't get along with.  Was he the only known being during your interview?

Sorry so curious, hope you can put up with me.

Zingo211 - I have quite a hard time staying focused on multiple questions.  Could we keep them one per post in the future.  That way you don't feel slighted if I miss something or get distracted into the bushes going on about something or another.

#1 They seemed to in most cases to be about political situations on earth. Just asking my perspective on current events.  In the one I talked about above I was asked "Are they ready".  I answered yes at the time.

#2 Mixxed Mental and Auditory for both?   It was very formal although.  No one spoke over another....  With the exception of my protagonist that I spoke about before.  He would interrupt me arguing my answer even before I got it all out....  Not unlike a normal conversation.   The question I think you need to ask is about the Mental talk.   Thats a bucket of worms that we could talk about for days.

#3 I was place in a large meeting room about 25 - 30' across.  It was somewhat cave like.  The walls were lined with vertical planks of what looked to be pecan wood with gaps between them.  They arched upward to a shaft about 15' or so wide.  At the top of the shaft there were humans in lab coats leaning over a rail in viewing the proceedings.  They were taking notes on legal pads.  I remember 2 or 3 looking down during that interview.  The beings sat in a semicircle in front of me approximately 10' or so  from my feet I believe there were 9 on the panel.  They were as different as a Shrimp and a Monkey in body make up.   I am not staying I was interviewed by a Monkey or shrimp just that their bodies were very dissimilar.   I have a hard time saying this for some reason but my protagonist was a lab coated 5 to 6 foot pasty colored guy.  I never got a real good look at him.  If you would like to talk about specifics I would suggest we break up the question a little more to make it simpler to track as things develop over time.

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March 16, 2015
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grasshopper said
Thank you Black Vault for adding an area for serious discussion of the beings.

I too was brought before a group of beings; some looked human while others seemed to have animal parts such as one I remember having teddy bear ears.  I do not remember what we discussed, but throughout this period of meetings I had the "feeling" that I was on trial.  It was a bit unnerving, but since you are not allowed to remember the entire event, to keep your sanity, you minimize it.  Then one night the little one (small grey) said in my ear "Die!"  Several nights later I find myself facing a human looking being with tiny brown scales over his face.  I think to myself, why am I here and who this, when he suddenly begins to burn.  His head arched back and turned away from me as flames shot out of his mouth, and he turned to dust.  I had no feelings what so ever.  I didn't understand what had happened.  I didn't know if this was a "mind" thing implanted or if it really had happened. 

I have found the beings "play games" with you.  They prod your mind to see what your weaknesses and strengths are then play into them.  I watch.  I wait.  I remember what they let me remember, and I record it in a journal looking for patterns, looking for information about them as living beings. 

They are the same as you and me except they have greater knowledge, and with it technology we dream about having.  There are "good" ones and "bad" ones just like us.  They die just like us.  And, I have found, they have a sense of humor.

They want me to do something for them, but I am not compliant because they will not allow me to remember in my waking mind what it is they want me to do.  This angers them, and I have received various threats.

They tell me they are scientists here to study us.  They tell me I should "trust".  I do not trust them.  I see and remember what they allow me to see and remember; why should I trust them?

grasshopper - Nice post.

I have been down the bunny hole for a while now.

And I have a little perspective that has developed over the decades in dealing with these events.

I suggest playing back the events and see if you perceive any breaks in the time line of your memories.  

If there are bursts,  like stops and starts.  Things that don't seem to be in order.  One moment it is cold and the next it is hot.  One moment you are inside and the next you are outside.  One moment you are in a group and the next you are alone.

I experienced things that on the surface horrified me.  But over time I was able to break threw the projected false memory and see another layer of the truth.  Then although should or do you believe that truth.  I had one that was the 3rd layer.   It ended up being something that they did not want me to remember.  It was stupid although.  Their reasoning was flawed if they thought that it protected me from the event.  Maybe they just were trying to distract me.

If you are ok with the event I would lever it alone.  You may not like where it takes you.

I would be fine talking about it if you need to.

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March 16, 2015
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I have no drive to talk about the being that burned because I have learned that you see what they want you to see and remember what they want you to remember.  I believe that it was some sort of set-up they created to see my reaction.  It actually didn't upset me at all which made me curious as to why it didn't.  I was certainly surprised. 

A female being then took into outer space to float and to relax because, she said, they didn't want me upset so that I could do my job.  Job!  What job?  She said my body was in the bed, but my mind was floating in space.  Well, I have to say it was a pleasant and relaxing float, and I would like to do it again which I probably could if I tried.

I know exactly what you are saying about the difficulty in remembering events in the proper sequence.  I have found that given time they fall into place.

March 17, 2015
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This is a question for Watcher and Dan. 

Why are you cooperating with the beings when they are using you?  I would like to say they are using you against your own kind...other humans, but I'm not sure that "against" is the proper word.  Other humans board the craft, one of you flies the craft, and one of you stands at the end of the aisle.  The mere view of your faces / bodies / actions puts the captured humans more at ease; you are reassurance to them that they are "safe". 

You have free will / free agency to refuse the beings. 

Why are you agreeable and compliant?

March 23, 2015
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My post above seems to have been a show-stopper, sorry about that.

The beings are not our friends in the sense we term friendship.  They come from a different word, different from what our world is and different from what our relationships are.  They obviously have abilities and technology we do not have.  In our world, anyone or thing that literally kidnaps you whether it be day or night is not your friend. 

They know of our ego and play into it, for instance Watcher, the being who challenged you during the interview while you were helplessly pinned in the chair.  They play mind games.  They push to see what you will do, whether you will submit be it out of fear or a desire to comply.

They provide half-truths and if the whole truth is given then it may be wiped from your memory.  They don't "play" fair, but they don't have to.

They die the same as you and I, and they know that we are basically afraid of death and threaten us with it.  I have been threatened, have you?  Does this threat cause you to reconsider their demand / request for you to do as you have been told?  For most it would.

I don't hate the beings, but I don't like them either; we have yet to find "common ground".  I would like to know more about them as living entities.  I am not in the technology race and although their technology is well above ours, I could care less although I find it impressive, but as living entities from another world, they fascinate me.  When I have been aware of what they want me to do, and I realize I do not want to participate, I walk away or at least try.  I usually end up in my bed sometimes very upset.  The upset feeling is compounded by the fact that my memory has been blocked and I do not know what happened after I refused to cooperate. 

I do not trust them as they do not trust me or us; we humans are unpredictable when not in an induced trance.

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