{"id":2546,"date":"2016-05-24T22:32:53","date_gmt":"2016-05-24T22:32:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/?p=2546"},"modified":"2020-06-11T23:39:39","modified_gmt":"2020-06-11T23:39:39","slug":"project-tobacco-anonymous-tip-turns-into-possible-confirmation-of-ufo-disclosure-project","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/project-tobacco-anonymous-tip-turns-into-possible-confirmation-of-ufo-disclosure-project\/","title":{"rendered":"Project Tobacco &#8211; Anonymous Tip Turns Into Possible Confirmation of &#8220;UFO Disclosure&#8221; Project"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The following was something I wrote back in 1997. Let me be quite clear &#8211; the story below as outlined by the anonymous letter to me is well beyond my realm of beliefs, and wanted to not even investigate it due to the nature of the claim.<\/p>\n<p>However, in the process of looking into the project name that was given to me, I received an intriguing response from the United States Air Force that will forever be a mystery (unless &#8216;disclosure&#8217; in 2025 proves me wrong) &#8211; but I feel it&#8217;s worth a mention.<\/p>\n<p>Could this be a mistake by the Air Force? Possibly!<\/p>\n<p>And admittedly, most likely.<\/p>\n<p>But now, almost two decades later, I have learned the military and the government don&#8217;t make many assumptions on FOIA requests, so a &#8220;mistaken assumption&#8221; on my inquiry would make this one of the only cases they actually did that with me. \u00a0And to date, I have filed well more than 5,000 FOIA requests.<\/p>\n<p>So take that for what it&#8217;s worth &#8211; and here you go.<\/p>\n<h3>Background<\/h3>\n<p>Originally published in 1997:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Running an internet web site, I get many pranksters, jokers, and liars that write to me and tell me they are from the government, or they are going to kill me, or other\u00a0ridiculous\u00a0claims, but there have been a few where it made me think, &#8220;Maybe this one is for real.&#8221; <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>I got a letter from an anonymous source, and by their request, I\u00a0will call him &#8220;Benjamin.&#8221; Now, &#8220;Benjamin&#8221; wrote me in regards to The Black Vault, and a posted photograph of\u00a0an alleged aircraft called &#8220;Snowbird.&#8221; \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>For those who are not familiar with this photograph, it is a supposed alien aircraft, and the picture is the craft mounted on top of a pylon, possibly at a Lockheed plant or even Area 51. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Now, &#8220;Benjamin&#8221; told me that this was an X-151 aircraft from Project Torridor. &#8220;Benjamin&#8221; went on to say that you would never get a picture of an alien aircraft in the daylight. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>&#8220;Benjamin&#8221; worked for the National Reconnaissance Office. He relayed to me that all\u00a0&#8220;Black Projects&#8221; are compartmentalized, that way no agency can really know what the other is doing. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>He went on to tell me a bit about a base in New Mexico, in a mountain called &#8220;Baldy.&#8221; The base is 200 feet deep, and 30 acres square. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>There are 1,500 from another world working there. They come from a dead planet in the Cygnus Ra Star System. &#8220;Benjamin&#8221; worked there, and gave me the exact coordinates: 21hours 13minutes 52seconds D33 degrees 10&#8242;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>The aliens, in exchange for us giving them a place to live, they will help us advance to join some kind of an alliance of planets. They hope that we will be ready by the year 2025. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>This is where Project Tobacco comes in. Project Tobacco is a project to get the public ready for this event. It is done through movies, media, books, television, and magazines. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Project Tobacco was given it&#8217;s name because if anybody else would find out about it, it would burn up like Tobacco. So, on December 09, 1997, I wrote a Freedom of Information Act request to the United States Air Force, and also to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, which &#8220;Benjamin&#8221; told me was part of the project. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>I received two\u00a0letters back, both dated December 29, 1997. The first was just an\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco1.png\">acknowledgment\u00a0receipt<\/a>. The second, was a letter starting off saying &#8220;This office\u00a0is not a repository for UFO information.&#8221; <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>It went on to give me information on UFOs and Project Blue Book, and they attached a Fact Sheet on UFOs, a page I have been given many times.<\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2548\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2548\" style=\"width: 785px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2.png\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-2548 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-785x1024.png\" alt=\"FOIA Response letter, dated December 29, 1997, from the United States Air Force to John Greenewald, Jr. \" width=\"785\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-785x1024.png 785w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-230x300.png 230w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-150x196.png 150w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-450x587.png 450w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-768x1002.png 768w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-600x783.png 600w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-115x150.png 115w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2-731x954.png 731w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco2.png 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 785px) 100vw, 785px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2548\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">FOIA Response letter, dated December 29, 1997, from the United States Air Force to John Greenewald, Jr.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Confused, I checked back to my letter, wherein I did not mention UFOs at all. No mention of aliens or flying saucers or anything that would\u00a0spark a response like that, NOTHING. <\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2549\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2549\" style=\"width: 230px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2549\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-230x300.png\" alt=\"UFO &quot;Fact Sheet&quot; commonly given out to UFO FOIA requesters - and received by John Greenewald asking for information on Project Tobacco. \" width=\"230\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-230x300.png 230w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-784x1024.png 784w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-150x196.png 150w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-450x588.png 450w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-768x1003.png 768w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-600x783.png 600w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-115x150.png 115w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3-731x954.png 731w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco3.png 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 230px) 100vw, 230px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2549\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">UFO &#8220;Fact Sheet&#8221; commonly given out to UFO FOIA requesters &#8211; and received by John Greenewald asking for information on Project Tobacco.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Was this a goof-up? I went back to &#8220;Benjamin&#8221; who was very surprised I got this response.\u00a0Wright Patterson is still to respond, but what will I get, if anything, from them? Now I am getting very interested, possibly &#8220;Benjamin&#8221; is telling the truth. Or maybe the Air Force did goof-up, but maybe they just figured I was talking about UFOs? Highly unlikely, because not all my requests to them deal with UFOs. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Now, I am going to do an excerpt out of one of &#8220;Benjamin&#8221;&#8216;s letters, because I figure if I paraphrase it, I will just get the information mixed up. So here it is: <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><em><strong>&#8220;I worked on the Gravity Catapult. Einstein General Theory has a number of similarities to the Maxwell theory of electromagnetism. In electromagnetism, the basic source of all the forces is the charge in the electron. The charge generates an electric field. If you move the charge to form an electric current, the current generates a magnetic field. If you increase or decrease a magnetic field, that hanging magnetic field in turn generates an electric field. The same thing happens in gravity. The basic source of all the forces is the mass of whatever particles you are using. The mass generates a gravity field. If you move the particles to form a mass current, the current generates a new field that is the gravitational equivalent of the magnetic field. (an anti-gravity engine). We have it, have had it for several years now and I worked on it. Why do you think NASA is slowly trying to down-size. They keep calling for smaller cheaper engines and so forth. They know that the present form of space-flight as well as transportation here on Earth is about to change. They don&#8217;t want to waste the money&#8230;but they have to or everyone will wonder why. The use millions of dollars of tax-payer money on useless stuff! This engine uses no fuel, has no sound and can never break. Since it uses gravitational fields for motion&#8230;as long as you have gravity, the engine will work.&#8221;<\/strong> <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The above letter came from the Department of the Air Force Headquarters in the Pentagon. I had also sent the FOIA request to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, as &#8220;Benjamin&#8221; told me they were taking part in the project. After a few &#8216;extension letters&#8217; requesting more time to process my request, I received the following:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2550\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2550\" style=\"width: 790px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2550\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-790x1024.png\" alt=\"Final response from Wright Patterson Air Force Base, as received by John Greenewald, Jr. WPAFB claims they had &quot;no records&quot; on Project Tobacco.\" width=\"790\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-790x1024.png 790w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-231x300.png 231w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-150x195.png 150w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-450x584.png 450w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-768x996.png 768w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-600x778.png 600w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-116x150.png 116w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb-731x948.png 731w, https:\/\/www.theblackvault.com\/casefiles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/tobacco_final_wpafb.png 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 790px) 100vw, 790px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2550\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Final response from Wright Patterson Air Force Base, as received by John Greenewald, Jr. WPAFB claims they had &#8220;no records&#8221; on Project Tobacco.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Is this information real? Did the United States Air Force Headquarters make a huge mistake by referencing UFOs on a Project Tobacco FOIA request?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Comment below &#8211; and share your thoughts!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The following was something I wrote back in 1997. Let me be quite clear &#8211; the story below as outlined by the anonymous letter to me is well beyond my realm of beliefs, and wanted to not even investigate it due to the nature of the claim. 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