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== French Expert Publicly Emerges to Confirm Secret United Nations Meeting on UFO's ==

by [[Dr. Michael Salla]]

A French aviation expert has come forward to reveal his participation in a secret meeting held at the United Nations New York headquarters that discussed the UFO phenomenon from February 12-14. Gilles Lorant is an attaché to the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (CNRS- National Center for Scientific Research) which is a government-funded research organization, under the administrative authority of France's Ministry of Research. He is also a member Institute of Advanced Studies for National Defense (IHEDN - the French Organization that produced the 1999 COMETA Report). Both CNRS and IHEDN are prestigious scientific organizations in France, and Lorant was invited to attend the UN meetings in a professional capacity. A report released by a French UFO organization (Federation of European Airplane ), of which Lorant is an executive member, contained a summary of the UN meeting where he describes what happened at the meeting. 

Lorant revealed that a series of UN meetings were held over a three day period. In the meetings there was discussion of a confidential report, prepared by the U.S. Air Force and a branch of the National Guard, concerning the societal impact of UFO sightings. The initial meeting was held on February 12 and, according to Lorant's report, led to a request by three U.S. Senators for further discussions. Additional meetings were held immediately after on February 13 and 14. The implication is that three U.S. Senators attended the secret UN meetings. The meetings were very concerned about social upheaval from continued UFO sightings and the testimonies of individuals claiming to have first hand knowledge about UFO's, extraterrestrial life, and future global events. It was reported that adverse public reactions to UFO sightings could have a dramatic economic impact that could lead to recessions in some countries. 

The emphasis on possible societal upheaval due to growing UFO sightings was reminiscent of recommendations of the 1953 Robertson Panel, convened by the CIA, which identified adverse public reactions as a major security threat that could be exploited by foreign enemies. The UN discussions appeared to match concerns identified in both the 1953 Robertson Panel and the 1961 Brookings Report to the U.S. Congress, over ramifications of UFO reports and the eventual discovery of extraterrestrial life. 

2009 was raised as the year when an important change in official attitudes concerning the UFO phenomenon could be made. This suggested that the official debunking policy underway since the 1953 Robertson Panel would be abandoned and more serious study of the UFO phenomenon would occur. This indicated an important policy shift where the study of UFO's would be officially encouraged. However, certain global conditions would have to be met for the official opening. Most important appeared to be social stability in G-8 countries and the maintenance of liberal democratic systems in developing nations. Lorant also suggested that an official opening in attitudes would only occur if UFO sightings continued to occur at present levels. 

Lorant's testimony provides independent corroboration for an anonymous source who first came forward on February 12 to reveal to two New York researchers (Clay and Shawn Pickering) that the UN meeting had taken place. The source's testimony was revealed in two articles published by this author on February 13 and 20 , and a follow up article by Robert Morningstar on Feb 25. Lorant's testimony gives more detailed information of what happened at the meeting, and is consistent with statements from the original source of the UN meeting concerning approximately 40 participants, multiple issues being discussed as well as the UFO phenomenon, and public reactions to increased UFO sightings. Most importantly, Lorant provides insight into reasons for a significant change in official public policy towards the UFO phenomenon. 

The reported results of the UN meetings indicate agreement was reached for an international strategy to more seriously study the UFO phenomenon in a manner that maintains present levels of social stability. This raises the possibility that those presenting information on UFOs/extraterrestrial life deemed to threaten national stability or financial systems, would receive special attention by national security agencies. The meetings results suggest that an official change in government policy from 'debunking' to 'openness' concerning UFO's would lead to official approval to narrowly define study of the UFO phenomenon. However, those claiming to have first hand experience of extraterrestrial life would be targeted as charlatans. The UN meeting thereby suggested continuation of policies aimed at exploiting divisions in the UFO community between researchers advocating a strictly scientific study of the UFO phenomenon, and those wishing to discuss testimonies/documentation concerning extraterrestrial life visiting Earth. An article exposing "Galactic COINTELPRO" is available here. 

Lorant's testimony finally suggests that governments are being driven to more open approach to the UFO phenomenon due to the recent increase sightings that are projected to continue well into 2009. What follows is a summary report of the UN meetings based on Lorant's testimony that appears in a newsletter of the FEA and is available in the original French. 

Michael E. Salla, Ph.D
Kona, Hawaii 
03/01/08
www.Exopolitics.Org

Acknowledgements: I thank Didier de Plaige for his kind assistance in helping confirm background information about Gilles Lorant, and for first revealing on his blogsite details about Lorant who at the time requested anonymity through a mutual acquaintance of de Plaige. I also thank Jean-Luc Bozzoli and Victor Viggiani for their assistance in translating the original French document. 


== Newsletter No. 4 of the F.E.A, 25.02.2008 ==
 
Posted by Jean-Jacques Yvars … 

Dear Friends, 
…
For strictly professional reasons and by coincidence, an active member of the FEA was invited to the UN in New York in the week starting February 11, 2008. This person took part in the development of discussions on the subject of UFOs, after the meeting of February 12. These discussions at the United Nations, brought forth further deliberations during three conferences held behind closed doors on 13 and 14 February, to which our member had the honor and pleasure to attend. 

Here is a summary of the minutes that Mr. Gilles Lorant, invited to the meetings, kindly shared with us about what was said at the United Nations in New York: 

On 12 February, the U.S. Air Force and the National Guard would actually presented a report on the subject of UFOs and the impact of sightings on many communities in the United States. Since this report was considered important for industrialized countries, representatives from several countries were invited to attend. Then, at the request of three United States Senators, a series of three meetings took place in the [two] following days, in the presence of forty representatives from twenty-eight member countries, including the Vatican (two countries did not send representatives). On both days, the subject of UFO's was discussed, for no more than an hour and a half, as one of the causes of social upheaval of a country, due to the high probability of economic recession resulting from the speeches of 'contactees', charlatans, religious [figures], some scientists and prophecies. Sightings of UFOs increase sharply the risk of social unrest threatening the political systems of several emerging democracies. 

According to Mr. Gilles Lorant, what was discussed was an opening in official attitudes when publicly considering, in future, how to treat the UFO phenomenon. An official opening to be held under two conditions: 

1) Until the end of 2009, that social peace in the G8 countries is guaranteed around the liberal democratic model (US version) 

2) By the end of 2009, that the UFO sightings disturbing "our neighbors" continues throughout the world. 

Furthermore, also discussed was what position to adopt in case a non-aligned country decided to make public their findings on the [UFO] topic. The atmosphere was rather serious, according to Mr. Lorant, the participants were, in fact, cognizant of the "presence of our neighbors" in our environment. 

Conclusion: 

The suggestion agreed upon at the United Nations by the representatives of the 28 nations, in the course of these exchanges, is of paramount importance for public recognition of the topic. The official treatment of information relating to UFOs could be a turning point at the international level, if the circumstances remain favorable. The coming years could show a surprising development of papers on the subject on the part of our governments. 

''Forward as you wish. Permission is granted to circulate among private individuals and groups, post on all Internet sites and publish in full in all not-for-profit publications. Contact author for all other rights, which are reserved.''

== Journal of the United Nations ==

Could these documents prove this meeting did NOT take place?  Decide for yourself:

* [http://www.archive.org/download/UnUfoMeeting/12FEB2008.pdf Journal of the United Nations - February 12, 2008]
* [http://www.archive.org/download/UnUfoMeeting/13Feb2008.pdf Journal of the United Nations - February 13, 2008] 
* [http://www.archive.org/download/UnUfoMeeting/14Feb2008.pdf Journal of the United Nations - February 14, 2008]

== Clarifications on Sources Revealing UN Secret Meetings on UFO’s & Extraterrestrial Life ==

By [[Dr. Michael Salla]]

I  received a further communication from Clay and Shawn Pickering (reproduced below) regarding their effort to clarify what has transpired so far concerning the secret meetings held from February 12-14, 2008 at the United Nations New York headquarters. Their clarification emerged from more recent discussions with their source, currently a member of the diplomatic corps with a background in the US military (Source A) who initially disclosed the secret meeting(s). Their comments offer a useful summary of what Source A has revealed so far, and the importance of his testimony. Given that a second source, Gilles Lorant, has publicly emerged with testimony of what happened at the UN UFO meetings, there is now a way to compare the two testimonies. We can now identify similarities and inconsistencies between the two testimonies to determine the credibility of the sources, and what actually occurred at the meetings. 

To begin, it’s important to note that while Source A has revealed his professional credentials to Clay and Shawn Pickering, and to Robert Morningstar, (see http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0208/un_ufo.html ) Source A has chosen to remain anonymous. This makes it difficult for public verification of his background and reliability. In contrast, Gilles Lorant, after initially releasing information anonymously, came forward to publicly reveal himself. Lorant’s public emergence made it easier to confirm his credibility as a primary witness to the UN meeting. His professional background as an auditor associated with the Federation European AIRPLANE (FEA) helps support the reliability of his testimony. A number of prominent French researchers also came forward to support Lorant’s credibility and/or professional background. These included Michel Ribardiere, President of the FEA, http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/exopolitics/message/632 and Gildas Bourdais who is a highly regarded French UFO researcher. Both Ribardiere and Bourdais regarded Lorant as a credible witness.

After intense scrutiny in France over Lorant’s credentials, controversy erupted over his claimed professional association with a prestigious French scientific organization, the Institute of National Higher Defense Studies (IHEDN). This led to the FEA requesting his resignation which Lorant submitted on March 6 www.federation-airplane.eu . The subsequent controversy over him inaccurately reporting his association with IHEDN, does raise a question mark over the reliability of his testimony. It may simply be Lorant overstated his professional association with IHEDN and that this does not unduly impact on what he claims to have experienced at the UN on February 13 and 14. Lorant’s public emergence and previous endorsements by independent experts gives some confidence in his reliability as a witness. Controversy over the precise nature of his professional associations, however, makes is unclear whether his testimony can be concluded to be any more reliable than Source A who remains anonymous.

It is important to note that Source A claims to only have attended a meeting on February 12, and did not refer to or claim to have attended any follow up meetings. In contrast, Gilles Lorant claims to have attended follow up meetings on February 13 and 14, but not that on February 12. So there may be some genuine differences between what these two sources encountered at the successive meetings in terms of confidentiality, security and attendees. It is appropriate to first discuss the commonalities between the two sources which will help confirm what transpired, and the significance of the information released.

Both sources refer to a secret UN meeting that occurred on the morning of February 12. They also refer to the increase in UFO sightings as an important issue discussed at the meetings as well as the disruptive potential of sightings for national economies and liberal democratic systems. Also both sources referred to many issues being discussed in addition to UFO’s. Lorant’s testimony confirms some of the central claims initially made by Source A that were communicated to this author concerning a secret UN meeting that would discuss UFOs on February 12 and first released in an article on February 13 http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-65.htm . That is one of the points that is emphasized in the clarification below by Clay and Shawn Pickering which shows the initial timeline of what and when they were given information about the UN meeting, and what they relayed to me and a few other researchers. A helpful timeline of events and testimonies concerning the UN meetings is available here: http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0308/timeline.html .Given that I had met and been advised by Clay and Shawn on extraterrestrial related issues over a five year period starting in 2003, and had been informed of Source A’s military background and official work on the UFO issue almost two years ago, I felt that their disclosure was both reliable and very important.

Lorant’s testimony confirmed the reliability of following pieces of information disclosed by Source A. First, that at a secret meeting discussing UFO’s took place on February 12 at UN headquarters. Second, that the current wave of UFO sightings were a major topic of discussion at the meetings. Third, that the stability of democratic nations as a consequence of increased UFO sightings was discussed. Finally, that a range of issues were discussed in addition to the UFO issue. Overall, Lorant’s independent testimony supports my initial assessment over the importance of the Pickering brother’s Source A who initially disclosed the meeting had taken place and that there was a need to inform the public of what transpired. For first disclosing to the general public the existence of the UN meeting, the Pickering brothers and Source A deserve public acknowledgement.

This takes me now to differences in the testimonies between the two sources. Some suggest that different sets of meetings occurred whose security classification, content and personnel contrasted significantly. Other differences point to some serious limitations in the reliability of Source A. These limitations point to a possible agenda to first advise the public about the meetings themselves, but to then obfuscate issues.

One clear difference is the nature of the security at the respective meetings. With regard to the February 12 meeting, Source A claimed that “security around the meeting was intense”, http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-66.htm while Lorant described the security at the February 13 and 14 meetings as less than what is experienced at airports. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/exopolitics/message/632. While neither of the two sources claim to have attended the same meetings, it is possible for such a security difference to occur. It may be that the first meeting, for example, involved more senior UN officials being given a higher security level briefing. This could have been relayed to the meetings on February 13 and 14 in a diluted form during the one and half hour period described by Lorant. This latter scenario is supported by the most recent public statement by Lorant that other meetings were occurring behind chained doors and guards. http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-68.htm

Another difference is that Gilles Lorant’s information basically refers to UFO sightings, and obliquely refers to extraterrestrial life as a reality implicitly understood by attendees. The only date he gives is 2009 as the year when an official policy of “openness” may begin providing two conditions are met: political/financial stability and UFO sightings continue. In contrast, Source A refers to extraterrestrial life as a central feature of the discussion on February 12, and that a timetable exists for extraterrestrials “unambiguously” showing themselves (2013/2017). It is possible that the February 12 discussed issues concerning official disclosure of extraterrestrial life as stated by Source A, while the February 13 and 14 meetings discussed UFO’s as a phenomenon that would be taken more seriously by national governments. If so, this may help explain the major difference in how Source A and Lorant described security at the meetings they attended.

A more significant difference is the specific goal of the two sets of meetings. According to the clarification relayed by the Pickering brothers, Source A refers to:

… a logistical "window of opportunity" to end over 60 years of denial during this "lame duck" period (of the Bush Administration) and before the next administration takes office; this helps to facilitate disclosure at this time in order to put overt contact at the forefront of future plans.

This is inconsistent with Lorant’s testimony where he describes a governmental policy of “openness” that will occur in 2009. This new policy would take place after the Presidential election, thereby making the so called lame duck period moot. Furthermore, the new “openness” policy signals an abandonment of the 50 year old official debunking policy existing since the 1953 Robertson Panel, and signals an official approach to the UFO issue that more seriously considers the available data. This contrasts with “disclosure” which suggests release of classified information dealing with the reality of extraterrestrial life or technology. In essence, Lorant describes a meeting where agreement was reached whereby a policy of openness would begin in 2009. This would initiate a process that facilitates disclosure at a later date. Source A suggests that disclosure could occur in this “window of opportunity” during the waning months of the Bush administration. 

If two sets of meetings were held, it is unlikely that they would differ so markedly on such fundamental issues concerning the goals of ‘openness’ and ‘disclosure’ regarding UFOs/extraterrestrial life. Based on Lorant’s greater reliability as a witness, his version of events appear more credible than source A. This raises concern over the extent to which Source A is spinning information in a way that obfuscates core issues.

The most significant difference that points to a credibility gap between the two sources is the nature of the information concerning what was discussed at the meetings. Lorant mentions specific information that can be confirmed. For example he discusses a Report prepared by the U.S. Air Force and a branch of the National Guard, and a role played by three U.S. Senators at the meeting. He also publicly identified that the meetings he attended, were chaired by Srgjan Kerim, the President of the UN General Assembly. Lorant also identified the Vatican’s Apostolic Nuncio and Permanent Observer to the UN, Archbishop Celestino Migliore; and Sir John Sawers, Britain’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations. Lorant’s information therefore appears verifiable which, when confirmed, will add greater credibility to his overall testimony. 

In contrast Source A’s information, appears in many places to be unverifiable and indeed purposely contentious. It is almost as though Source A wants to direct attention to unverifiable claims that generate heated debate, rather than accurate descriptions of what transpired at the meetings. For example, in an earlier article I referred to significant problems with the descriptive term used by Source A for extraterrestrials who allegedly would unambiguously show themselves some time in the future (2017) [http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-66.htm ]. Source A used the term “The Controllers”. In the clarification below, Source A claims: “This was just a name, which has since been changed to "Conformers." It is just another name that our source grabbed out of the ether to describe an ET group.” I find this statement to be highly unsatisfactory. Any classified study concerning extraterrestrial life would have precise descriptive terms for such entities, even if their appearance and behavior was not fully known. Choosing a descriptive term such as “Conformers” that is “grabbed out of the ether” appears to be very disingenuous. I stand by my earlier view that descriptive term used for extraterrestrials by Source A had loaded psychological content. This exists no less for term “the Conformers,” than it did for the earlier term “The Controllers”. The use of such loaded psychological language arouses suspicion that Source A is choosing descriptive terms for their psychological conditioning value.

By relaying information that is unverifiable and contentious, and uses loaded psychological terminology, the obvious conclusion is that Source A’s information is attempting to obfuscate issues that were actually discussed at the meetings. Given that Source A originally claimed that he was given authorization to disclose information concerning the February 12 meeting by an Admiral, the conclusion to be drawn is that the information relayed by Source A may be an officially authorized effort to obfuscate genuine information that is simultaneously leaked to the public. Alternatively, the obfuscation may be a protective mechanism used by Source A who may have legitimate concerns over his physical safety in participating in these authorized leaks.

In conclusion, it is important to again acknowledge that Source A initially disclosed the UN secret UFO meeting on February 12, and a number of aspects of what was discussed at the meetings have been corroborated by Lorant, who participated in follow meetings on February 13 and 14. However, the contentiousness and unverifiability of significant elements of Source A’s testimony, and his use of psychologically loaded language, leads to justifiable suspicion over his reliability and motivation. It appears that Source A has released some genuine information about the UN meeting and issues discussed on February 12, but is purposely layering this with obfuscations that have psychological conditioning purposes. In contrast, Lorant’s testimony appears to be a plausible summation of what he witnessed at the follow up meetings on February 13 and 14. Given Lorant’s public emergence and disclosure of specific information that can be confirmed, his testimony would appear more reliable than Source A. However, controversy over his precise professional association with the IHEDN that led to his resignation from FEA on March 6 does create some uncertainty over his credibility. The controversy may have little impact on the accuracy of his testimony concerning the UN meeting, but will discredit him among the mainstream media. Researchers desiring to investigate the UN meetings and uncover what was discussed are therefore recommended to verify the specific claims made by Gilles Lorant while being mindful over controversy concerning his credentials, and also treading carefully with information supplied by Source A who remains anonymous.

Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.
Kona, Hawaii
www.exopolitics.org 


== For Clarification: A Statement On The UN UFO Meeting of February 12th, 2008: ==

''Copyright 2008, Clay & Shawn Pickering - All Rights Reserved''

by Clay and Shawn Pickering

For clarity's sake concerning our source's revelation surrounding the recent secret United Nation's UFO meeting, we want to reiterate that our source met with us on at 8:00 PM Monday evening on February 11th, 2008. My brother and I were informed by our source then that the UN meeting was to take place at 8:00AM the next day. Our source stated that the UFO issue would be addressed at this forthcoming meeting.

The meeting went as planned and at the UN on February 12th, 2008. We were told not to release this information until after the February 12 meeting had taken place. We were the only source to release information about the February 12 meeting, on the very day of the meeting. This is the closest thing to "real time" as one can get. 

We released the information of the UN meeting on February 12th to three sources: Bob Morningstar, Editor of UFO Digest, Dr. Michael Salla, director of Exopolitics.Com and well-known writer, Jim Marrs.

Bob Morningstar met with our source briefly on Monday, February 17th, 2008.

Since Bob lives in the New York City area, it was very convenient for all parties involved to meet. Bob met with our source again on February 25th, 2008. Shawn and I set up this meeting and also attended it. This was a 5-hour long meeting where our source showed Bob his credentials. Various topics were discussed among us. Our source had read some of Bob's Internet writings and showed a keen interest in meeting him. Our source continues to go through both Shawn and me first, regarding any new material. This is what our source wants, based on our past relationship and the trust created.

As for objections to the use of the word "Controllers," our source simply used this term to describe a certain group of extraterrestrials that appear to hold sway over other extraterrestrial groups.

As I'm sure you're well aware, this name has a lot of baggage regarding psychological warfare implications. This was just a name, which has since been changed to "Conformers." It is just another name that our source grabbed out of the ether to describe an ET group.

Frankly, our source and those associated with him, have no name to describe them. Again, this was just a name given to these extraterrestrials so that we could at least determine some sort of hierarchy related to this group and other ET's, for example, "Greys" and "Tall Whites."

Indeed! There is definitely a movement afoot to bring the public "up to speed" consciously, regarding "unambiguous" contact between the world's populace and extraterrestrials. The point most people are missing is that a meeting at the UN had occurred regarding the recent UFO flap worldwide.

Our source and his team state that the objectives of the meeting(s) were two-fold:

1) Noting that these sightings were world wide and not restricted to any particular nation-state and, moreover, the crafts' technology does not belong to any terrestrial source. This was to allay any fears (especially, Russia's) that any secret US aircraft are flying over any other nation-state's airspace.

Bob Morningstar met with our source briefly on Monday, February 17th, 2008.

2) That our source's team was to broach the issue that contact would be forthcoming in the year 2017, and to note in alerting the UN that things would be heating up significantly by 2013.

Also, for clarification: our source did not "Chair" the meeting.
Yes, our source did participate and offered opinions as did the others who attended.

There is an old maxim that says,

"Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics."

The important thing to remember, according to our source, is that there is a logistical "window of opportunity" to end over 60 years of denial during this "lame duck" period (of the Bush Administration) and before the next administration takes office; this helps to facilitate disclosure at this time in order to put overt contact at the forefront of future plans.

We as a people on this planet are at a historic logistical juncture regarding this phenomenon. The UFO research community and our source's people are doing, and must do, everything possible without compromising National Security to help bring this about.

I could go on with much more information. However, my brother and I think it best to let Bob Morningstar and Dr. Michael Salla continue reporting our source's information.

Clay & Shawn Pickering
New York City
March 6th, 2008



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== Credits ==

Special thanks to [[Dr. Michael Salla]] and [[André Skondras]]

== External Links ==

* [http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-67.htm Original Article on Dr. Salla's Site]
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