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Postby sandra » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:53 pm

If you ask me it boils down to people that just live boringly. Whether in the cities or rednecks. Some people find comfort in the Same Ole Same Ole....And I'm someone that when I am comfortable I realise something is wrong. Time speeds up so does our need for change.
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Postby Dark-Samus » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:01 pm

If I have to decide which type of person I am, I am mostly a same ol type of guy.
HoweverI'm open to most things, the bad news is that everytime I try something new I always end up hurt by others, betrayed and having my excitment for new things crushed forever.

I certainly have lost all the ability to even feel excitement outside my house.
I'm simply dead.
And that's thanks to the people around me.
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Postby sandra » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:39 pm

A process in which I myself have dwelt in for some time.

However there comes a time we need to take responsibility for ourselves. I had to come to some conclusions of those ideas. Why weren't other people thinking the way I did? Why was everyone hurting me, and frankly unaware? I started to understand that those judgments of other people were only deluding the truth of myself, and they were all around UNFAIR.

Some of us are meant for greater things, for greater care taking responsibilities, we can cry like a baby about it, or we can embrace that if we know better, and feel like we 'feel' better than other people, then we have to also continue forward for them. Living a life by example can create miraculous change in the minds of other people. First we have to know the right reasons, and your perceptions right now remind me of a time in my life that I called, being put through the wringer.

Having an ego stripped bare is not appealing. Everything and anything not going our way is impossible to avoid if we want anything real meaningful.

When you realise some of other peoples 'innocense' you may see your own....everyone is doing what they can, and if you know better, than you should know, that your responsibility to the truth goes beyond their awareness, and that you have a duty to share who you are.
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Postby Lashmar » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:36 pm

Snug wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_parade (warning some of the pictures contain nudity)

This is the kind of parade/protest i've seen put on in public. Smaller scale usually. But I've seen this kinda thing moving down popular city streets. Where children and many uninterested adults live and were pretty much forced to be around. Including myself.


I don't personally care too much for the Queer parades but for a different reason to you. Why can they have a Queer march but I can't have a straight march? Why should they have `Gay rights` when they claim they want to be treated Equal? To me having a special set of rights for a group of people isn't right.

I dislike the marches mainly because I can't have my own, the same as many other things in this country, but if you're truly that bothered by them (I'm not and I don't think many are) then walk away and come back later...the world hasn't ended by turning you back on them and, I think, everyone would be happier that way.

as for attire. Well Female clothing, Makeup, wigs ect. All Acceptable if done tastefully. But in a lot of cases this is not the case. No family oriented place should have cross dressers present. Its insulting annoying and prob a lil confusing for the youngins.


I don't really care what people wear; as Sandra said women go out wearing `inappropriate` (thank god for that as well :D ) all the time. I find it easier to get on with Queers dressed as women than some women at times, for the most part queers are nice people, and I never feel uncomfortable around them. I feel uncomfortable around the body-builder queers to be honesty, they creep me out at times.


I'm happier with people being themselves though; I'd rather be in a room full of people who knew their sexuality and were happy than being in a room full of confused people who weren't sure who they wanted to sleep with.
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Postby Dark-Samus » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:12 am

The difference is Lassie, are you being hunted or hated for your straightness? I think not.
That is the difference, parades in general to me is a celebration of straight life and the life of the majority anyway so I don't see the problem.

Or do you all want some type of symbol to represent each group like cattle?

And personally I don't give a crap about gay parades either, there is alot more than primitive sex out there.

However there comes a time we need to take responsibility for ourselves. I had to come to some conclusions of those ideas. Why weren't other people thinking the way I did? Why was everyone hurting me, and frankly unaware? I started to understand that those judgments of other people were only deluding the truth of myself, and they were all around UNFAIR.

Some of us are meant for greater things, for greater care taking responsibilities, we can cry like a baby about it, or we can embrace that if we know better, and feel like we 'feel' better than other people, then we have to also continue forward for them. Living a life by example can create miraculous change in the minds of other people. First we have to know the right reasons, and your perceptions right now remind me of a time in my life that I called, being put through the wringer.


I've been treated but nothing other than sh*t ever since I stepped into this world.
So I wouldn't call it a perioid of time, I call it all my life.
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Postby Snug » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:43 am

Dark-Samus wrote:First of all if you don't like it or even hate it then you are somewhat of a homophobe.

Second it is a PARADE meaning that all sorts of freaks will be there or do you see any other parade being normally put on clothes and behaving like royalty?

Third many gays are not acting female, it is the way they are, of course some gays are influenced by this thinking that gays should all be femenine, I however am not in any way like the stereotypcial gay, feminine weak walking bitch.

Fourth if you think it is inappropriate for kids to see this then so must any other type of relationship kissing out in public etc etc get as much attention as you have on this.
Otherwise you arejust a hypocrite aswell.

And last, if you straight people can behave as you want why can't we?


Well as i clearly stated i have no hate towards people who want a same sex relationship. I have friends that are Gay. Heck i would not even rule out myself dating a girl. But I would show respect and still consider myself to be bound by the same morals and laws then every other person in the country.

As for the parade comment... I have nothing against the parade i have a issue with public nudity and sexual content in public settings. I could care less who's parade it was, but the fact is Gay Parades get away with it. My town is not the red light district its a family friendly area. What is the difference between a Gay Parade showing nudity and the streaker exposing himself to random people... Nothing but the fact they wont shut down the parade out of fear of getting sued but will arrest the streaker on the spot.

This is also around busy streets so unfortunately you can't just move or find a new job to miss the parade. Not to mention the unofficial "protests" Where they just pick a street corner. Which a lot of people do and I disagree with them as well. But at least there not shuving a opinion that is sexual and adult in your face. I can live with a child being forced to hear someone protest about animal cruelty but to have to explain to them why a bunch of men are dressed as girl parading around as we drive by is crossing the line. Even pisses me off more if there half nude. Which You can deny it all you want but around here if a female is wearing just a thong and some head dress costume in public she would be escorted into a squad car no questions asked.

As for the Kissing in public thing... I never mentioned once that it was inappropriate for Gay people to show affection. I am cool with that. I am against obvious role playing and sexual displays in public.

As for all the other "But were hunted! Girls wear dresses why can't we?" Well that is just excuses. Your not the only group of people that are hunted and discriminated against by SOME people. Races, Religons, HIV+, Male - female. Men can also walk around topless in society yet you don't see a lot women exploiting that and walking around topless in non designated areas.

You need to understand there is law in place protecting against hate to the point that anybody who even has a opinion and has someone complain about it is stripped of his right for free speech instantly. So to say that everyone hates homosexuals and nothing is being done to protect them is bullocks.

Heck even I support homosexuals. I am pro same sex marriage. Equal rights.But I am exposed to Homosexuals being exempt from laws and rules that everyone else is forced to abide by. Its no different then Feminism having certain laws tweaked in there favor or vice versa with men. Everything should be equal and one group should not be aloud to get away with something that another can not.
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Postby Lashmar » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:05 am

Snug wrote:Heck even I support homosexuals. I am pro same sex marriage. Equal rights.But I am exposed to Homosexuals being exempt from laws and rules that everyone else is forced to abide by. Its no different then Feminism having certain laws tweaked in there favor or vice versa with men. Everything should be equal and one group should not be aloud to get away with something that another can not.


Agree.

You're very confusing. I disagree with your views on the other thread but I somewhat agree with you here. :?
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Postby Dark-Samus » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:16 am

Well as i clearly stated i have no hate towards people who want a same sex relationship. I have friends that are Gay.


So typical response I get from most of you when Iblame you for homophobia :roll:

As for all the other "But were hunted! Girls wear dresses why can't we?" Well that is just excuses.


It is a bit more complicated than just wanting to wear dresses, it is almost a fact that gays have different genes in some areas which straight people do not and vice versa.
But I do think myself that many gays goes over the top with these types of behaviour.

I'm gay but I have never ever even wanted to put asome light make-up to look more handsome.
Although my skin is flawless :lol: :twisted:

Your not the only group of people that are hunted and discriminated against by SOME people.


Of course we are not the only ones being discriminated, but we sure are hated amongts every single religion,culture, gender and type of person except those who accepts gays as who they are wihout problems, without seing them as something special or inferior.
So in reality gays are far worse treated than blacks,jews or anyone for that matter since especially the Abraham religions came to be so don't think we are equal to the rest that are hated because we are being treated alot worse by even those who are discriminated.

And the bottom line is, since especially gay sexuality is hated more than being gay, ofcourse the parades are going to be like that anyway.
They march for gay sex and the acceptance that it is not an abomination or disgusting,otherwise straight sex should be considered just as disgusting even if "creatures" comes out off you.

And no I do not accept all types of sexual actions amongts any type of sexuality.
Some things are just plain sick and does not deserve to be treated like normal.
Having "poop sex" is not normal by any way!
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Postby sheye » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:56 pm

Who agrees with me?


I agree with you snug!!!!!!!
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Postby sheye » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:44 pm

Can't believe how you got slammed in this snug....and I really do know exactly what you are talking about....and its hard for me to stomach.

Anyone who flaunts sexuality in a public place with children around whether they be hetro or homosexual is crossing the line of decency as far as I am concerned. I once told a couple who kept kissing and getting all touchy feely at a basketball daycamp my daughter was attending to stop or go somewhere else so all these children who were trying to learn about basketball could actually concentrate on what they were trying to learn.
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