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Postby khanster » Sun May 06, 2012 11:52 pm

at1with0 wrote:Infinity might be a misnomer.


We keep arguing over the same concepts every couple of years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity#A ... e_sciences

From the perspective of cognitive scientists George Lakoff, concepts of infinity in mathematics and the sciences are metaphors, based on what they term the Basic Metaphor of Infinity (BMI), namely the ever-increasing sequence <1,2,3,...>.


Infinity is a metaphor and can be manipulated in various ways mathematically.
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Postby DIss0n80r » Mon May 07, 2012 6:24 am

Indefinite succession?
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Postby at1with0 » Mon May 07, 2012 8:25 am

The only reason there is a set of natural numbers, i.e. the only reason there is an infinite set, is that it is assumed (the axiom of infinity). AFAIK there is no way to prove that there is a set N such that x is in N iff x is a natural number.
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Postby khanster » Mon May 07, 2012 11:54 pm

the definitional parameters of the set concept are not well formed.
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Postby DIss0n80r » Tue May 08, 2012 2:19 am

What is truth? Baby, don't hurt me, don't hurt me... no more. :mrgreen:
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Postby khanster » Thu May 10, 2012 1:03 am

Truth is the state of the status quo encapsulating both the objective and the subjective eye of the beholder.
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Postby DIss0n80r » Thu May 10, 2012 2:06 am

:crazy:
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Postby khanster » Thu May 10, 2012 2:15 am

Individual self stands in contrast to the continuum of all possible selves.

Hopefully At1with0 will be able to figure out how to get his rich self from the Richie Rich universe to cross the impassible gulf between universes into this universe, in order to give him his desperately sought after prize.
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Postby at1with0 » Thu May 10, 2012 8:52 am

khanster wrote:Individual self stands in contrast to the continuum of all possible selves.

Hopefully At1with0 will be able to figure out how to get his rich self from the Richie Rich universe to cross the impassible gulf between universes into this universe, in order to give him his desperately sought after prize.


The pot of gold argument just shows that not every conceivable event occurs somewhere in the multiverse.
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Postby khanster » Fri May 11, 2012 12:04 am

at1with0 wrote:
khanster wrote:Individual self stands in contrast to the continuum of all possible selves.

Hopefully At1with0 will be able to figure out how to get his rich self from the Richie Rich universe to cross the impassible gulf between universes into this universe, in order to give him his desperately sought after prize.


The pot of gold argument just shows that not every conceivable event occurs somewhere in the multiverse.


Actually you mentioned the pot of gold argument just off the top of your head in an insincere fashion. You never really seriously meditated on the pot of gold nor did you ever work on your powers of concentration, so why should you stand out amongst the infinite number of other at1with0's?

What makes you so special and deserving of that pot of gold?
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