Dragoness » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:51 pm
It is one of the things they choose to ignore. People came to America, in the beginning, to be able to worship as they pleased and did not want the Churches to control the government. That is what I think it was meant by separation of church and state.
Sometimes I think some of these Atheists just want there name in the paper. We had an issue here where an Atheist complained that they were going do graduation services in a church. Even though the Church agreed to cover the cross. Needless to say, graduation had to be spilt and the number of guest limited. It seems the needs of the few out way the needs of the many.
Maybe what we need to do is when there is an event held by Atheists we should complain that they are offending us by leaving us out.
Dragoness and others,
THe system of government for which the Founders here were trying to prevent here in America was a system of Absolute Power in the hands of a few for lucre or political lucre/power.
In European history this form of "Absolute Power" went by another name. It was called "Divine Right of Kings."
Under "Divine Right of Kings" a Kings crown was put on his head by the religious authority of that nation. Since his crown was put on him by the religious authority his power and authority was from God...therefore there was no limit on his power over a people and nation. The Kings power was therefore Absolute. The king could make or break any law and the law could not touch him. THe king was above the law..for he was the law itself.. "In the name of the King!!" or so the saying goes
Under such systems of absolute power ..there was no limit to how much or what a government could extract from the people..for his power was from God and to go against ones king was to go against God.
This system of absolute power or feudalism was true not only in European Nations..but in the orient and middle asia or the Mid East as well...absolute power in the hands of a man..by the religious authority .
IT made for a nice relationship of fleecing the people betweent he kings and the religious authority or the priesthood.
What this made for in many of these countries is a system in which a few people had a little and the rest had almost nothing....economically. The royalty and priesthoods had most and the rest had very little.
This is the condition of men all across this globe and for most of recorded history.
Today this system has been reversed but it is still the same system...it only looks different on the outside..but underneath when you peel back the veneer ..it is the same system.
Today men want absolute power without the religion and without the olde priesthood. Today by wisdom, by logic , by reason...men are attempting to return back to absolute power in the hands of men and at the expense once again of most people who labor and take risks for their property. As a result of this type of logic and reason ..when you look carefully you see a quiet and accelerating war against private property ..and towards government to
"Redistribute " the wealth of ordinary people and in favor of government. In favor once again of Absolute Power in the hands of men. A quiet return to Feudal Absolute Power in the hands of the government or the ruling group.
It is not taught to the people in this way but this is exactly what it is. Divine Right of Kings and its relationship to Absolute Power is also not taught to most people such that they do not recognize it as it is happening to them.
The method of accomplishing this today is through public education financed by government and within this fabric is to separate the people from their religious beliefs...and any public worship so as to remove this knowledge of Absolute Power/Divine Right of Kings from the souls of the people themselves. In this manner the people will not recognize it when it returns again under a different guise.
Separation of Church and State by the Founders here in America was designed to break this incestuous relationship with the church and state and thereby Absolute power in the hands of men and put it in the hands of the people themselves. Separation of Church and State was a limit on Government itself to prevent Absolute power..it was never intended as a limit on the people as it is being deceitfully practiced today.
For Englishmen...Divine Right of Kings was put to an end when Oliver Cromwell and the Roundheads put King Charles 1st on trial and cut his head off when he was found guilty of Treason against English law in 1649. The precident was set by this history that when a King had broken the laws of the land...that he was not above the law but only an administrator of Just English Law..and could be held accountable with his life. A King was not divine right.
And the Founders here in America knew this this history and what it meant over a hundred years later when King George broke English precident and law...in TAxing without representation here in the colonies. That a king could be held accountable...Cromwell had set this example or precident over a hundred years earlier. This is a history and knowledge known by very very few Americans today and not taught in public schools for good reason.
For this would be a limit on government and the masters working behind government to acquire absolute power through the misuse and abuse of government power against the people and their ability to own and control their private property...verses "Wealth Redistribution."
Atheists are being used and misused by government to keep this knowledge from the people..from the public..as this is also one of the functions of public education..to separate people from any religious beliefs and substitute instead atheism. And we see the fruits of this in our public schools as they turn out many many atheists today. It was designed to create this very result.
Make no mistake ...this is an Atheistic priesthood trying to secure a religion over a people..a religion which is not the product advertised..in like manner to which politics is itself so often not the product advertised. They are a perfect match for each other. They are trying to secure power and control over the majority of the people by this incestious relationship and lie...deception. Religious liberty was always intended in this nation to be in the hands of the people..not in the hands of government to prevent religious liberty by the people. The people were to know what their religious liberty meant and how it was intended to limit or control government..not to set government free from the Chains of the Constitution.
When a people are separated from their religion...the government is free to promote government religion and eventually absolute power. History is replete with this evidence.
The lie and deception that they are teaching is that Separation of Church and State was a limit on government..it was never intended as a limit on the people themselves. They are misusing Separation of Church and State to be a limit on the people. This is the lie.
Once you know this history about Divine Right of Kings, Absolute Power , and Separation of Church and State...Atheists, Public Schools, and the religious beliefs of government become very transparent...very clear...that they desire a return back to Absolute Power/Divine Right of Kings in the hands of men. It is just being done by a slightly different route..but it is still the same thing..and the same result.....a return to feudalism...royalty.
A footnote to this long explaination of Separation of Church and State.
I find many ministers and church leaders at fault today ...because they do not teach this knowledge to their flocks. They are guilty of leaving their flocks unarmed against the wolves of this world.
This should be a knowledge taught to people in their churches..but it is not. The church leaders and ministers are greatly at fault here for this ignorance of their sheep. They are in this manner aiding and abetting the Atheists cause.
Hope this helps some of you folks,