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Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby khanster » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:18 pm







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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby frrostedman » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:20 pm

We've recently gone round and round with this khanster. I'm sure it's in a thread on page 1 of this forum.

Anyway, many believers will argue with me til the cows come home on this, but the fact is, if you believe the bible, then you must believe that we do not have 100% free will. We have free will, yes, but we do not have full autonomy.

Adam and Eve had 99.999999999% free will to do what they want without consequence. They could do an infinite number of things, but for 2: Don't eat the fruit from this tree and that tree. Were they satisfied? No. And so it goes. Most of us are utterly and completely dissatisfied unless we have full autonomy.
"But let us not come up with any patronizing nonsense about Jesus being a great teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to." C.S. Lewis
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby humphreys » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:52 am

Nope. See my sig :mrgreen:
"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."

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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby DIss0n80r » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:41 am

Free will evolves as awareness folds back on itself.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby bionic » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:04 am

DIss0n80r wrote:Free will evolves as awareness folds back on itself.

8-)
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:26 pm

I am free to believe whatever I want.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby DIss0n80r » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:36 pm

Dude, don't be jealous 'cause bionic thinks I'm cool.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:16 pm

I'll try to keep that in mind. :(
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby DIss0n80r » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:59 pm

Stop smoking weed and you will be able to keep it in mind for longer durations.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:17 pm

I WILL keep that in mind. :P
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