The Black Vault

I beleive KISS should be inducted, but I wouldn't blame em if they told em to screw off.
They have done more for rock than most bands ever did.

Lets see what that starts...

KISS should ahve been inducted years ago. They have been ignored by that community for some reason, guess they wouldn't play the game.







BloodStone...

Wing-Zero wrote:Yeah, it's a real f**kin' hoot.

Anyways, so IF ancestry is everything as you claim, then how is AC/DC an Australian band?

How are RHCP an Australian band if A) they were formed in the US, B) if only one member is Australian, and C) the majority of the members were born in the US?

We already did this..


You said RHCP is American based on the fact that the band was 1st formed in the usa.

Ergo

AC/DC is Australian based on the same principal.

More over ......

SUCK MY NUT.

AC/DC are an Australian rock band formed in 1973 by brothers Malcolm and Angus Young. Although the band are commonly classified as hard rock and are considered a pioneer of heavy metal,[1][2] they have always classified their music as rock and roll.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC/DC

Wing-Zero wrote:Yeah, it's a real f**kin' hoot.

Anyways, so IF ancestry is everything as you claim, then how is AC/DC an Australian band?

Whats the test for being declared native American .......

You must be at least 1\500th native American or something like that.


The Current line up is not the same as it was when AC/DC was first formed.The founding The Founding member of what would one day become AC/DC.

Dave Evans (born 20 July 1953) U.K
Larry Van Kriedt (born in the United States)
Angus McKinnon Young (born March 31, 1955) is a Scottish
Malcolm Mitchell Young (born 6 January 1953) is a Scottish-born
Colin Burgess (born 16 November 1946) is an Australian.




& The Band Members who recorded AC/DC first album & turned AC/DC into the band it is today.

* Bon Scott – lead vocals, bagpipes (Scottish-born)
* Angus Young – lead guitar (Scottish-born)
* Malcolm Young – rhythm guitar, backing vocals (Scottish-born)
* Mark Evans – bass, backing vocals ( Australian Born )
* Phil Rudd – drums ( Australian Born )
* Tony Currenti – drums on tracks 7 & 8 ( Australian Born )
* George Young – bass on tracks 7 & 8 (Scottish-born)


Furthermore AC/DC has seen many line up's over the years & im willing to bet, that if you listed all the members who were in AC/DC over the decads & then listed from which country they were born.

A majority of them would have come from Australia, & not from Scotland.

Lets call that the native American rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AC/DC_members

Angus McKinnon Young and Malcolm were born in Scotland, but immigrated to Australia. Malcolm was born the 6th of January 1953. Angus Young was born the 31st of March 1955. Their older brother George played in a band, so Malcolm was soon learning how to play this heavenly instrument. Angus got curious, too, and started up. He formed a band and called it "Tantrum". Malcolm joined "The Velvet Underground" (which has no connection to Lou Reed). But what he really wanted was to form a new band, so he asked Angus to join in with Colin Burgess on drums, Larry Knedt on bass and David «Dave» Evans on vocals. The name AC/DC was invented by Angus and Malcolm's sister Margaret, and it comes from letters on the back of their mother’s vacuum cleaner. (Not "Anti Christ Devils Child / Children" or "After Christ the Devil Comes").

AC/DC was born, and the first live show was located at the Chequers Club, Sydney, on the New Years Eve 1973/1974. Then, they started recording a single, but they quite, & Colin Burgess was replaced with Ron Carpenter.

He was replaced with Russell Coleman, who at last was replaced with Peter Clark.

Larry Knedt was replaced with Rob Bailey. They continued working on the single, and it was released in 1974. The single contained two songs. "Rockin’ in the Parlour" and "Can I Sit Next to You Girl". The last one was later released with Bon Scott on vocals. Soon, Rob Bailey and Peter Clark quite. Malcolm had to take over the bass for a while, and Mark Kerrante was placed behind the drums.


They were finally ready to start recording their first album, where George Young stepped in and played the bass. Dave Evans failed to meet up on a several numbers of shows, so a guy named Ronald Belford Scott, stepped in on vocals. This guy was also known as Bon Scott. The album was titled High Voltage. This album did not contain the song High Voltage. Early 1975, they got another bassist. His name was Mark Evans, and a bit later, they got company by the drummer Phil Rudd. With the setup Angus, Malcolm, Bon, Phil and Mark, they released their second album in the end of 1975. The title became TNT. On this album, the song "High Voltage" was released.



AC/DC has always release two editions of one album. One was released in Europe and one in Australia only. On the Australian edition of Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, there are included a few songs which weren't released on the other one. The 18th of February 1977, they released Let there Be Rock, also in two editions. The Australian edition did also include a few songs that were not released on the normal "Let there be Rock".




AC/DC was ready for USA, but was USA ready for AC/DC? When they reached USA, the trouble started.

There were difficulties between Malcolm and Mark Evans, which resulted in Mark leaving the band. He was replaced with Cliff Williams (born in Romford the 14th of December 1949), a bassist who could do exactly what was expected of a bassist.

They were put on a tour with Black Sabbath, but were kicked off because there occurred problems between Malcolm and the Black Sabbath bassist Geezer Butler. A rumor says that Malcolm hit Geezer at the hotel. AC/DC got kicked off the tour and put on with Kiss. The 7th of December 1977, they recorded a live show in the Atlantic studios.

As a further sub clause to my above post.

RE:

Wing-Zero wrote:Yeah, it's a real f**kin' hoot.

Anyways, so IF ancestry is everything as you claim, then how is AC/DC an Australian band?

How are RHCP an Australian band if A) they were formed in the US, B) if only one member is Australian, and C) the majority of the members were born in the US?

If AC/DC is not an Australian band due to the fact that a majority of its member are born outside of Australia.


I move that you all bow to my superiority & concede that most of the world largest company's
& corporations are not American .....

Due to the fact that a majority of the CEO'S & board members aswell as a majority of shareholders are born & live outside the USA & are foreign owned.

Wallmart

Microsoft

NBC

FORD

G.M

Exon Mobil


So forth, so on ect ect.


Same goes for Canadian & European companies as well.

All companies that were started in the US or Europe.

So we do all the work and then let you bozos come in and buy it after we've had our fun and profit. Yeah, you guys are REALLY superior.

As for AC/DC, you can have it as an Aussie band. But if you're going that route, then you have to take back the "Australian band Red Hot Chili Peppers" comment.

You can't have your kangaroo and eat it too, koala.

Wing-Zero wrote:All companies that were started in the US or Europe.

So we do all the work and then let you bozos come in and buy it after we've had our fun and profit. Yeah, you guys are REALLY superior.

As for AC/DC, you can have it as an Aussie band. But if you're going that route, then you have to take back the "Australian band Red Hot Chili Peppers" comment.

You can't have your kangaroo and eat it too, koala.

As for AC/DC, you can have it as an Aussie band. But if you're going that route, then you have to take back the "Australian band Red Hot Chili Peppers" comment.

Fine, but since you agree on two of my original points now.

1) A bands nationality is not based on who formed the band but rather where it was formed.

2) musical influence is global.

Flea's Australian Hermitage influenced the music off ( the U.S band ) RHCP, in the same way.

The African slaves influanc3ed American music when they brought the origans of blues & jazz music across to America.

rath wrote:Fine, but since you agree on two of my original points now.

Don't make s**t up.

1) A bands nationality is not based on who formed the band but rather where it was formed.

Agreed. You're thinking of Headshot, but whatever.

2) musical influence is global.

Says the guy who thinks the US stole everything musical.

The African slaves influanc3ed American music when they brought the origans of blues & jazz music across to America.

So they didn't steal it, is what you're trying to pass off now?

Wing-Zero wrote:

rath wrote:Fine, but since you agree on two of my original points now.

Don't make s**t up.

1) A bands nationality is not based on who formed the band but rather where it was formed.

Agreed. You're thinking of Headshot, but whatever.

2) musical influence is global.

Says the guy who thinks the US stole everything musical.

The African slaves influanc3ed American music when they brought the origans of blues & jazz music across to America.

So they didn't steal it, is what you're trying to pass off now?

1) ....... i know Headshot said AC/DC was not Australian, but you where right there by his side.
& you also made the same point.

2) .........

So they didn't steal it, is what you're trying to pass off now

Not at all.

American's are always claiming stuff from other cultures as their own.

Credit where credit is due.

When the usa Claims the culture of another nation & or people's as American ..... It is little more then stealing.

Just More, American' lies propaganda & thievery.

rath wrote:1) ....... i know Headshot said AC/DC was not Australian, but you where right there by his side.
& you also made the same point.

That's where your logic was going. I was asking for the sake of clarity.

2) .........

When the usa Claims the culture of another nation & or people's as American ..... It is little more then stealing.

So what if those people are born here?

Wing-Zero wrote:

rath wrote:1) ....... i know Headshot said AC/DC was not Australian, but you where right there by his side.
& you also made the same point.

That's where your logic was going. I was asking for the sake of clarity.

2) .........

When the usa Claims the culture of another nation & or people's as American ..... It is little more then stealing.

So what if those people are born here?

If they / people acknowledge the influence, then fine.

But if you just claim something as your own out of ignorance, it just stealing.

Again ..........


Hamburgers were not invented by McDonald's .

Hamburgers came from Hamburg.

Walt Disney didn't create Mary Poppins.

&

The USA is not the birth place of freedom & democracy.


& the USA is not the inventor of all the worlds creations.

These are, Lies Propaganda & thievery.

This is the USA trying to make itself look important.

It's stealing.

Whats the test for being declared native American .......

You must be at least 1\500th native American or something like that.

It's different for every tribe but the tribe I would be a member of has theirs set at 1/16th. Most would be closer to that, some higher and some lower.


Also, I was mocking you when I said AC/DC wasn't aussie. Notice, in the originial post over the subject, I said IF I really wanted to stretch it.