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Postby gudskepteacal » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:04 pm

From TheBlaze...

"The nation’s non-Christians – whether of another religion or no religion – are far more likely to support President Barack Obama than American Christians, according to an extensive Gallup survey taken over the last six months.

Muslims support Obama the most, Mormons the least according to new poll
President Barack Obama sits at a table with Dr. Joel C. Hunter, senior pastor of Northland, A Church Distributed, in Longwood, Fla., left, and others during the Easter Prayer Breakfast, Monday, April 14, 2014, in the East Room of the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

Obama, himself a Protestant, gets his highest support from Muslims, and least support from three Christian groups, Catholics, Protestants and Mormons, says the poll taken of 88,000 Americans over the first six months of 2014.

No Christian group has an approval rating of more than 50 percent for Obama, while non-Christian populations are the only ones who provide a higher than 50 percent approval rating for the president. That is significant to Obama’s overall approval of 43 percent, since half the country identifies itself as Protestant, and about a quarter identifies itself as Catholic."...


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07 ... -the-most/
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Postby frrostedman » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:53 am

The reason Christians support him the least is because as Christians, we can plainly see what a fraud he is and what little regard he has for Christian principles. I almost never get insulted. But as a Protestant I am insulted that he professes to have the same spiritual beliefs as I do.

It speaks volumes that Obama's biggest support group is the Muslim community.
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Postby greeney2 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:58 am

Obama has photo opps for everything under the sun except one. When do you ever see them go to church on Sunday?

GWB went to church all the time!
Clinton went to church all the time!
Bush senior went to church all the Time!
Reagan went to church all the time!
Jimmy Carter went to church all the time!
Ford went to church all the time!
Nixon went to church all the time!
LBJ went to church all the time!
JFK went to Mass all the time!
IKE went to church all the time!
Truman went to church all the time!


I can't recall any President in my lifetime who was not regularly seen going to church, except Obama!
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Postby orangetom1999 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:09 am

Obama's real religion is Humanism...which is Luciferianism. That Human and human values and thinking is the highest order..the highest expression in the universe...the ultimate reality in the universe.

To the Knowledgeable Christrian..the ultimate reality in the universe is....God...and His Word...they are one and the same.



In line with Humanism and Luciferianism is the sex principles and sex worship. The glorification of the sex principles...and their obvious intolerance for those who do not agree with this practice and belief system.

For this is one of the practices which the Ancient Hebrews got caught up into..in the groves and high places in the daytime and in the valleys at night. And for which contributed to them losing the land and God's Blessing by 70AD.
And so too are many Christians today.

This alone sets Obama and the democrats apart from anything Christian.

This Luciferian fingerprint has come so far it is now infiltrating much what is called Christianity today.


This is why their obvious disdain for anything of True Christianity. Ersatz Christianity yes..but true Christianity no. They even have tolerance for atheists..and not Christians. Astonishing but true!!


For he and the Democrat party is of the counterfeiter....and so too the Republicans if they are not making this plain and clear to the American Public. Particularly the Republicans as they are also counterfeiters..counterfeit conservatives.

I agree with Frostedman's post above.. Obama and his administration and political party are not the product advertised...because they are counterfeiters..of the counterfeiter.
And those well versed in Christian principles and thought can see them clearly.

So too the Republicans. There are two phony counterfeit political parties out here. And some are catching on and speaking out about it to those who can see hear and understand.


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Postby frrostedman » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:41 pm

orangetom1999 wrote:In line with Humanism and Luciferianism is the sex principles and sex worship. The glorification of the sex principles...and their obvious intolerance for those who do not agree with this practice and belief system.


i.e. the forcing of employers to finance abortion pills. The taxpayers being forced to encourage and finance promiscuity. Luckily the Supreme Court slowed it down, but they are under heavy assault for doing so.
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Postby greeney2 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:02 pm

Heavy assault, not to mention total distortion of the facts. Of the 21 contraception drugs, I think 5 were eliminated the clearly were abortion or pregnancy termination drugs. I think 16 birth control drugs were still provided, yet people like Hillary Clinton clearly lied about characterizing this as something that was not the case, along with Nancy Polosi.

Seriously there are much bigger prescription issues the Supreme Court should look at. Namely the denial of certain brand name drugs there are no generics for, denial of certain critical but expensive drugs for many diseases or conditions, transplant required drugs, etc. My friends teenage boy had a liver transplant and the insurance refused to pay for life critical rejection drugs because of the cost, and there was no generic.

Those things are a lot more important than abortion drugs for women who can't figure out contraceptives.
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Postby orangetom1999 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:04 pm

frrostedman wrote:
orangetom1999 wrote:In line with Humanism and Luciferianism is the sex principles and sex worship. The glorification of the sex principles...and their obvious intolerance for those who do not agree with this practice and belief system.


i.e. the forcing of employers to finance abortion pills. The taxpayers being forced to encourage and finance promiscuity. Luckily the Supreme Court slowed it down, but they are under heavy assault for doing so.



Yes..Frostedman,

I was indeed alarmed by this and the extent to which this "Enlightened " government was willing to go to enforce this.
When they declared that they could get people to do things which were against their religion I knew they were rapidly on the way back to "Diving Right of Kings" or absolute power...no checks and balances. A royal and feudal system. The very thing the founders here did not want.
This is not over yet..and the media and public education is working tirelessly to keep the public from knowing this history and knowledge...about absolute power.

Greeny2,

When I learned that these companies were not trying to stop contraception..but only abortion devices I was stunned at the realization of how far the government and the media/public education would go to distort the truth of what was in fact happening.

What I have detected that someone is trying to do to this social structure is bring back a society which defines itself by sexuality and promiscuity..particularly around certain holidays and festivals. They are bringing back the olde religions under the guise of Enlightenment.
This is also historically Demonization. The promotion of the sex principles...Demonization/Paganism.

It is also one of the fingerprints of The Fallen. Rampant runaway open sexuality of all kinds..exactly where someone is attempting to lead this country..back into darkness.

That a people would fall so low that they would begin to define who and what they are by open, runaway , rampant sex and sexuality of all kinds. That this would be promoted as a devout and zealous religion from the highest leadership in the land. This is exactly where we are going under such Enlightenment.

Once again..I am not debating here against sexuality per se..but only that people should know to be much more than sexuality and sex. Not to so define ourselves by sex and sexuality.

For I know that Christians do not so define themselves by sex and sexuality...but a pagan will..so too will The Fallen.

Someone out here is attempting to return us back to the religion of The Fallen. What was going on Pre Flood and without most people being aware that this is going on about us.


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Postby chalnikkal » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:08 am

For he and the Democrat party is of the counterfeiter....and so too the Republicans if they are not making this plain and clear to the American Public. Particularly the Republicans as they are also counterfeiters..counterfeit conservatives. I agree with Frostedman's post above.. Obama and his administration and political party are not the product advertised...because they are counterfeiters..of the counterfeiter. And those well versed in Christian principles and thought can see them clearly.?
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Postby orangetom1999 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:45 am

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Postby orangetom1999 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:46 am

frrostedman wrote:The reason Christians support him the least is because as Christians, we can plainly see what a fraud he is and what little regard he has for Christian principles. I almost never get insulted. But as a Protestant I am insulted that he professes to have the same spiritual beliefs as I do.

It speaks volumes that Obama's biggest support group is the Muslim community.



For those under good tutelage..who are also under the Knowledge of how to spot counterfeits...there is something very glaring and alarming about this whole system in play..this counterfeit system. And it has been going on for a long long time. It is just picking up steam and coming out into the open.

For those versed in this Knowledge of "The Fallen" , What is taught to them is that when the angels revolted against God and were defeated..they lost their previous estate and were condemmed to another form....as demons..or fallen from Grace.

This fall left them with certain fallen human traits including rampant runaway sexuality. As there are no female angels.. and this left them with rampant runaway homosexuality outside of their occasional liaisons with human women.

One of the indexes of Pagan religions is runaway rampant sexuality and particularly around certain holidays. It is heavily sponsored by certain of their priesthood and precisely why the Children of Israel were told not to do as the nations surrounding them were doing ....for they were worshiping these demons as gods complete with ceremonies around the sexual principles..including human sacrifice in some versions. For by this they had defiled the land.

For those once again in Knowledge of this pattern...open runaway rampant sexuality and acceptance of sexuality also gives access to human females by these very fallen as this religion once gain becomes out in the open.

In the Secret Societies around the world , this is exactly the nature of what is going on. The return to the olde religions and away from Christian principles and what God told His people not to do. Not to be as were the rest of the world but to show that they were a people separated from the world and unto Him.

I found out in dealing with two members of these Societies under oath...that they could not tell me the name of their god.
This was a very very strange experience. That a person could not tell you the name of their god. They both told me that they could not for they had taken an oath. Twice this happened to me....at different times but twice with the same results.

It was only when I began to understand counterfeits and certain patterns of the occult religions verses Christianity ..that it began to connect with the religion and practices of "The Fallen."



Christianity is the exact opposite of what you see this current administration doing and promoting. Not only this ...the so called conservative political parties do not teach this understanding to the people for their knowledge and study. This line of thinking is totally avoided in favor or rampant runaway sexuality and defining ones self by this fingerprint...precisely the opposite of what were God's instructions to His People.

This is why you often see me declaring that a people are so much more than sex and sexuality. That a proper human being does not define themselves by their sex and sexuality. It is not that they do not have sex and sexuality..but that they know and understand that they are so much more than sex and sexuality.
If you understand this history ...you will now understand why the heavy and zealous emphasis of today on acceptance of certain sexual principles and of all kinds..without debate and without protest. To prepare the ground for the religion of "The fallen" and the return of the fallen.

What appears to be happening is that this world is being prepared for and the ground tilled and cultivated for a return of "The Fallen" and the religion which surrounds this demonic practice.
The manner of the war against Christianity is but one facet of this "Ever War" which has been going on since the Garden of Eden. It continues today in order to prepare the world for a return to pre flood religion and practice.

What is of interest to me is that education and intellect is of no use in this war. I am speaking of man made intellect and wisdom verses God's Wisdom and Knowledge.

The more educated men become in this world and the religion of this world the more likely they are to embrace this religion of the fallen. What is also of interest in understanding counterfeits ..is that many of these intellectuals...seem to have not a clue as to this pattern of operation going way back into history.

Once you begin to see this pattern in operation and the direction it is going and intended to go...it makes understanding certain events and the dogmas behind them clear.

Rampant Runaway sexuality of all kinds.

The feminizing of the males.

Belief in a strong central government and group think rather than individuality, individual thinking and initiative, individual responsibility, Group think and group guilt, group responsibility. Along with this strong central government we have government openly promoting sexuality of all kinds and for the groundwork of having people promote this thinking and the religion which follows it..the religion of "The Fallen."

The downplaying and disregard for anything Christian in public life in lieu of the World religion and group think..mostly emotional think. And Government is in on this fingerprint. They are about to become open with this contempt for the people in an attempt to promote government religion...or as Hegel stated..."The State is god."

Promotion of any and all religious beliefs but Christian. This to promote the religion of Ishmael and get rid of the line of Isaac. To bring in the world's religion.

In short..a world turned upside down in any and all facets such that the ground is prepared for the return of "The Fallen."


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In Isaac shall thy seed be called,

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