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Postby gudskepteacal » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:41 am

first off: I knew nothing of communitarianism before seeing an article in NewsWithViews by Niki Raapana. From there I found the Anti-Communitarian League site and purchased their book's' entitled 2020: Our Common Destiny and The Anti Communitarian Manifesto. here...

http://nord.twu.net/acl/

I say their because Niki Raapana's daughter, Nordica Friedrich, is her research and writing partner. These two ladies have spent over a decade researching and writing about communitarianism. imho, one would be hard pressed to find more revealing and detailed information about what I believe is part of the continuing push toward the NWO.

They started researching communitarianism when they became involved with a trial project for 'urban sustainable developement' back in the 90's in Seattle, WA. They were in a legal battle with the ptb over renters' rights. I believe Ms. Raapana goes into detail about it in her blog here...

http://www.nikiraapana.blogspot.com/

second: let me tell you how real and genuine these people are. I had actually bought the ebook over 2 yrs. ago then, through a series of events, lost email account got it back and found her on youtube, sent Nordica an email and they promptly provided the ebook download site where I got two books and was only expecting one! No "show us an invoice or receipt" just the next day in their reply was the link for the ebook download. They don't do it for the money or the notoriety, that's for sure but without their real, hardcore research into years of international trade agreements, int. political maneuvers, the international judicial decisions by the U.N.'s-International Court of Justice (ICJ) and how it ties into the current Agenda 21, the truth about the whole communitarian business would still be shrouded in mystery.

third: that word 'truth', there is different truths for different people and, even with mounds/years of research behind them, practically nobody to date has recognized their work in the scholarly-literary world. That's why most of the people who read this will say,"Communitarianism, what is that?" A good layman's definition for communitarianism comes right out of the preface to their book - 2020: Our Common Destiny and The Anti Communitarian Manifesto , which I haven't gotten the permission to quote anything yet but it has to do with int. law and religion and "worldwide Sustainable Development". That's all I dare print from the book for now because, on Niki's blog is the story of how one woman read Niki's and Nordica's work then wrote her own book, plagiarizing a great deal of the book they had spent years researching and writing; only mentioning Niki in passing and not even mentioning Nordica at all. And here's where the rub of that word 'truth' comes in: turns out now that most of the highly visible political and social personalities have dismissed and ignored Niki and Nordica's book in favor of the watered down version written by this female plagiarist. There was a well known tea party activist mentioned and, of all people, my main man Glenn Beck. One of the reasons, imo, is that it directly names Zionism as the political ideology behind communitarianism and pulls no punches when dealing with subjects like organized religion and the state of our incredibly convoluted, mostly ineffective and stagnated political process; letting both sides of the aisle have their fair share of the blame. Anyway, that is the reason I've placed it in the c.t. section; practically no one has heard of communitarianism and many of those that have don't believe it all.

So jews, protestants, any other order of organized religion, and most of the political spectrum (yeah, that about covers everyone) will no doubt be offended when reading, but, if they are real enough to get over it, they can find facts about communitarianism and how it's being used to bring about the international climate for new world order. All thanks to two ladies from Alaska; Niki Raapana and Nordica Friedrich.

<aside>
and now for my own little c.t. segment...

from The Matrix

Neo: Why do my eyes hurt?
Morpheus: You've never used them before.
later
Morpheus: What is the Matrix...control.
later
Morpheus: As long as the Matrix exists the human race will never be free.

note - I edited this to correct the instances of the word communitarianism being shortened (in hindsight, it was a mistake to do that) and also to correct the order of events in The Matrix ; not that anybody noticed.
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Postby Nesaie » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:36 pm

You're absolutely right. Agenda 21 is something every human on this planet should fight against. The best thing to do is to show up to local city councel meetings. Listen and learn. Then be heard. These people are against private property, self defense and our Constitution. That bumperstick saying, "think globally, act locally" is precisely what they're doing. Meanwhile we're too busy working, microwaving, driving and watching TV.

Good post gud. But, I may have put it somewhere where more conventional type people may read it. Maybe in the political arena? Though it should be categorized as a conspiracy, that word makes some believe that those of us who know about them are crazy. ;)
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Postby gudskepteacal » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:03 am

THANK YOU!!! I thought about that, Nesaie, but concluded that the only other viable section was the general since it's technically a homeland security issue but also a universal threat issue and not easily associated with the 'war on terror' or what most people associate with that phrase. Same goes with Pres. Obama and politics - maybe something to do with it, but still not exactly fitting in that section and the off topic I always thought of as something not covered in the sections above. That left only general and, imo, it is more of a conspiracy topic because, simply put, it IS a conspiracy; open in nature, affecting the entire planet, utilized and practiced every day the world over, often misnamed and watered down and yet the very existence of communitarianism remains hidden to most people. I decided the conspiracy section was the best place and, by the looks of it,the choice of section didn't hurt it too badly. Anyway, in the future, I think I can ask the mods. to move it or they may even move it themselves.

But it crossed my mind to put it elsewhere, other than the conspiracy section, because one can search for themselves and see that communitarianism is real. Amitai Etzioni is a real person, he is University Professor at George Washington University and director of the Institute for Communitarian Policy Studies at GWU. website here...

http://icps.gwu.edu/

He founded the Communitarian Network in the 90's. website here...

http://communitariannetwork.org/

(notice the similarities of both websites)Here is their self-description...

"The Communitarian Network is a coalition of individuals and organizations who have come together to shore up the social, moral, and political environment. We are a nonpartisan, nonsectarian, transnational association."

He has authored several books found here...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_ ... aps%2C1366

SO, for someone to claim communitarianism is explicitly a conspiracy theory would be to deny those provable facts. Thanks again to Niki Raapana and Nordica Friedrich for doing invaluable research into communitarianism and writing about that research and their experiences.

For years now we've had high ranking officials and religious clergy use words like 'citizens of the world', 'social justice', 'one world government' and 'global community'. These are communitarian phrases carefully scripted and timed to prepare people for the coming shift to the New World Order. Yes, I'm talking about the end of national sovereignty and the beginning of global rule by select WEALTHY elites of the world. No doubt they'll use the 'everything is above board' approach (just like politics here in the U.S.) when the time comes; perhaps utilizing some sort of quasi-democratic process to spotlight how inclusive and fair everything is meanwhile telling us how vital and essential one world government and currency is to the citizens of the world. But, just as in politics everywhere, the real puppeteers will remain in the shadows and quietly and anonymously direct and control the flow of public knowledge and influence. I just believe, with everything being what it is nowadays and the general direction of collective rights over individual rights, it is inevitable that this scenario(or something closely resembling) will gradually but steadily come to pass.

Unless people learn to set aside their differences and start to realize the biggest threat to them and their families is not someone else's religion, lifestyle or politics, but something never mentioned or discussed by people in the media, politicians or organized religion; something that has been there all along quietly shaping and molding the framework for the ultimate subjugation of the whole world, the unseen hand will undoubtedly actualize their coveted New World Order.
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Postby En-Lugal » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:15 pm

I had heard mention of these principles but never heard the term Communitarianism before. After reading that blog I'm up to speed on the ideology now and also wondering why the term was never mentioned, perhaps I didn't hear it but I'm sure I would have noticed that. Very interesting, at any rate.
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Postby gudskepteacal » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:15 pm

As usual I've gotten off course spouting my own brand of Tavistocked conspiracy psycho-babble so I felt the need to produce some material to better explain communitarianism. The following is a review of The New Golden Rule by Amitai Etzioni...

"The New Golden Rule by Amitai Etzioni was a truly fascinating read: the mix of political science, sociology, and philosophy drew me in and kept me interested throughout. Written in the midst of the 1990s, when the world was rearranging itself after the end of the Cold War and neoliberal capitalism’s triumph, and a Republican congress was rearranging US domestic policy, the book sets out Etzioni’s ‘communitarian’ philosophy. Essentially, he argues that both rapid socialism and rabid individualism are unhealthy, detrimental to both a society and the humans who live in it. Instead, communitarianism advocates a middle route, a balance of rights and responsibilities, with a deeper sense of community values fostered through healthy discussions and interactions."

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Other commentary about communitarian articles and publications can be found here...

http://icps.gwu.edu/commentary/

Here are three examples of why I disagree with Dr. Etzioni and communitarianism in general...

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"Transparency is the Vitamin C of politics. It does some good under some limited conditions, but can cause harm if used as an alternative medicine when real treatments are needed. Though always popular, transparency has been much in the news recently as the solution to that which ails us. The real treatment is more regulation."

http://blog.amitaietzioni.org/2014/01/t ... rated.html

Just the last sentence of that paragraph illustrates how far apart we are on that subject. Here is another...





In this debate he puts me squarely on the side of the ACLU president; especially when he says there are not enough checks and limits on free speech already.

This last one is not a bad idea by Dr. Etzioni and he has supporting research, but the actual implementation is where I have doubts...

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"Instead, what is called for is a new force, composed of a combination of Israeli and Palestinian border police that would have their own uniforms, flag and command. Call it the Palm Brigade. It would not violate sovereignty, as it would not be a foreign force but one composed and ruled by both sides, and such forces have proved to be effective. Such a joint border patrol would be similar to the largely successful patrols that were carried out between 1945 and 1955, when the United States, the United Kingdom and France patrolled the center of Vienna jointly with the Soviet Union — a nation that was already emerging as a Cold War adversary."

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/190697/brea ... z2sDiXTdez

Although Amitai Etzioni is no doubt very scholarly and knowledgeable I just don't see how he comes to these conclusions. Greater transparency may be a problem for the gatekeepers and some of his associates and colleagues, past and present, but, from the cheap seats way out here, it's always better for us to know more of what goes on in the halls of power. Maybe we're just too far apart on the societal ladder, but it's kind of a warning sign when the call for greater limitations on speech goes out, or maybe that's just my paranoia. Amitai Etzioni's (whose name means "Tree of Life {or Knowledge} from Zion) pro-National ID position only serves to increase that paranoia; yes, he favors some kind of bio-metric security measure, ostensibly to prevent forgeries. It's the chip - the Mark Of The Beast! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE AHHHH!!! :liar:

I just couldn't resist, sorry. I don't know for certain that communitarianism is the sole or even main mechanism behind globalism and the NWO, but am convinced it's at least one of the cogs in the machine. I am simultaneously annoyed and relieved that, after all this research and reading, I know exactly squat about who or what much less why or how. Being no more than grease in the teeth of those cogs, I'll probably never know either. One needs a hobby though and having neither honor nor fortune I can at least pledge my life to following this mystery; even if it does just lead in the end to a broken down, old man with his hands in the air going, "Whaddaya want from me?" And, of course, there is always the possibility that I'm wrong and there really is no them ; no Fabian / Illuminati puppeteers. I just can't see it.

THANKS AGAIN to Niki Raapana and Nordica Friedrich and their books 2020: Our Common Destiny and The Anti Communitarian Manifesto
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Postby gudskepteacal » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:51 pm

What is the Hegelian Dialectic?...

"The Hegelian Dialectic [5] is the framework for guiding our
thoughts and actions into conflicts that lead us to a predetermined
solution. If we do not understand how the Hegelian Dialectic shapes our
perceptions of the world, then we do not know how we are helping to
implement the vision for the future [6].
Hegel's dialectic is the tool which manipulates us into a frenzied
circular pattern of thought and action. Every time we fight for or defend
against an ideology [7] we are playing a necessary role in Marx and Engels'
grand design to advance humanity into a dictatorship of the proletariat.
The synthetic [8] Hegelian solution [9] to all these conflicts can't be
introduced unless we all take a side that will advance the agenda.
The Marxists' global agenda [10] is moving along at breakneck
speed. The only way to stop land grabs, privacy invasions, expanded
domestic police powers, insane wars against inanimate objects (and
transient verbs), covert actions, and outright assaults on individual liberty,
is to step outside the dialectic. Only then can we be released from the
limitations of controlled and guided thought."


From the book "The Definitive Anti Communitarian Manifesto" by Niki Raapana and Nordica Friedrich
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