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Postby qmark » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:44 pm

From an article on Dec 29th, this is the first two and last paragraphs.

( - In a legal argument formally presented in federal court in the case of Hobby Lobby v. Kathleen Sebelius, the Obama administration is claiming that the First Amendment—which expressly denies the government the authority to prohibit the “free exercise” of religion—nonetheless allows it to force Christians to directly violate their religious beliefs even on a matter that involves the life and death of innocent human beings.

Because federal judges—including Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor—have refused to grant an injunction protecting the owners of Hobby Lobby from being forced to act against their Christian faith, those owners will be subject to federal fines of up to $1.3 million per day starting Tuesday for refusing to include abortion-inducing drugs in their employee health plan.

As the nation approaches the much publicized fiscal cliff, it also approaches a moral cliff: Will the Obama administration compel Christians to act against their faith? As of now, the answer seems plain: Starting Tuesday, it will. ... heir-faith

This is just the beginning.
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Postby greeney2 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:57 pm

No it is not the beginning at all, the government has interfered with religious rights since the draft. Men were forced to serve their country vowing to fight to the death for it, or be killed if they would not kill the enemy. Every religion teaches to not kill. They were forced to agree with arming themselves and taking orders to kill other humans. You did not have the choice to refuse without severe consequences.

Some religions do not believe in transfusions, will they be allowed to exclude that from coverage? Or Transplants? Some do not believe in any mental health care of psychological treatments? All of these could be life saving efforts too.

Bottom line is religion based organizations should be able to tailor their medical plans according to their beliefs. Forcing them to include things completely against their beliefs, would be unconstitutional.
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Postby greeney2 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:49 am

This is the same US Supreme Court who ruled that the Westborrow Baptists had the right to protest at a funeral, and were going to protest in Connecticut, at the school. I would have run them out on a rail, and just told them to sue the city.

If their common sense made that decision, do not expect much backing of the religions on this. They back civil union couples to declare themselves dependents, so Ted and get Fred insured, but if your child is dependent for life on you, that child's medical insurance drops off your group insurance when they are 21 unless in school, and you can not add an elderly parent as your dependent either.
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Postby qmark » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:12 pm

Yes greeney, it has been going on for a little while but it is my belief "we ain't seen nothin yet". This is why I say this is just the beginning. Persecution is coming, slowly, but surely.
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Postby greeney2 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:36 pm

The public wanted a liberal president, and were dumb enough to reelect him again.
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Postby orangetom1999 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:42 am

This is about all I need to post on this..breaking just today..

As Q mark will wax worse and worse. ... ate-group/

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