The Black Vault

frrostedman,

The bigger point is, we are no better off morally today than we ever were.

Agree!!

Ive been saying this for some time now on this board.

You can pump in all the science and technology you want...it is not going to make us better people. I dont care how many touchy feely emotions people want to put on it.

And Once science is controlled by the body politic..it becomes very much whoredom. Used/misused to serve the body politic.

Science may put us in better cars, homes, clothes, telephones, televisions..but it will not make us better people. Not going to happen. Better consumers..yes...better people...no.

Orangetom

Why does it matter if science makes us better people or not?

Let's say I agree with you, science does not make us better people.

So what? What is your point? What are the implications of that?

I have seen you make that statement over and over again, orangetom, but it isn't as enlightening, controversial, or relevant as you seem to think it is.

You seem to think the role of science is to make us better people, but science means "knowledge" not "self-improvement".

Technology is so useless and yet here you all are, using it.

You don't have to use the internet, or computers, any of you, and yet you spend a lot of time here, taking advantage of what science has allowed you to do. I wonder why you so clearly embrace what you believe to be a bad thing.

And if it's not a bad thing, then I fail to see what your point is. It all seems a bit hypocritical to me. I wouldn't sit there moaning about fast food while eating a Big Mac, but that's what you all seem be intent on doing.

Meh.

And the women are more and more becoming animals themselves. Base crass animals...no matter what the so called social standing...animals. You see this happening more and more ...de evolution taking place. No amount of education is going to change this.

Hypocrisy rears its ugly head once again.

For someone so critical and judgmental of others you sure are an ***hole. I'm pretty sure the Bible has something to say about that kind of behaviour, somewhere.

humphreys wrote:Why does it matter if science makes us better people or not?

Let's say I agree with you, science does not make us better people.

So what? What is your point? What are the implications of that?

I have seen you make that statement over and over again, orangetom, but it isn't as enlightening, controversial, or relevant as you seem to think it is.

You seem to think the role of science is to make us better people, but science means "knowledge" not "self-improvement".

Thank you Humphreys..for confirming what I and others have been saying all along on this thread and others.

What you have done here is to confirm the peak of evolution....


This...Humphreys..is timeless and classic...

but science means "knowledge" not "self-improvement".

Kudos to you for clearing this up for the boards. The rest of the posts you have made up to this one only back this up.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Most pathetic response ever.

You really didn't have a point in any of that then?

Your whole argument, if you can call it that, amounts to a strawman attack on science, which you just admitted is the case

A quick tip for you, orangetom, the question mark denotes a question.

So when I say this...

Let's say I agree with you, science does not make us better people.

So what? What is your point? What are the implications of that?

...it warrants a response of some kind.

What, exactly, is/was your point?

It's like walking into a room full of people and declaring that "hammers are useless at cutting down trees", and then staring on smugly as if you've said something of substance. <sarcasm>How wise you are.</sarcasm>

Thanks for the sarcasm tags; I'm guessing some people need them.

You're very welcome.

See, I think you do need them. Were you being sacrastic, was I being sarcastic when I said "you're welcome"?

Without the tags, it's anyone's guess.

I think we should make a full list of things science has failed to do:

1) make us better people
2) turn water into wine
3) make us better dancers
4) make me less sarcastic
5) make greeney stay on topic
6) make a car out of ham
7) make fish better at golf
8) make orangetom have a point
9) make God exist
10) make the Bible true

<sarcasm>Oh...what a failure science has been!</sarcasm>

I wonder what else has failed to do all of those things...